Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 06, 2011, 08:29:09 PM
Post by: Dustin07 on April 07, 2011, 08:26:47 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 07, 2011, 08:27:51 AM
Post by: lokidog on April 07, 2011, 08:37:35 AM
The state will probably have the max depth restriction again this year to protect yelloweye and canary rockfish.
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2011, 08:43:06 AM
Gear stealer of a bottom , if open hit the slack tide in the center and dodge the ferries on the drift through
Post by: Dustin07 on April 07, 2011, 08:56:10 AM
Dustin, don't waste your money on a guide. Look at your topo maps of the sound and find some structure. They seem to like it where an incoming tide blows up the hill of the structure. Hard to fish sometimes but usually worth the effort.
The state will probably have the max depth restriction again this year to protect yelloweye and canary rockfish.
thanks Loki,
I've seen them while SCUBA diving out off Ruston but in shallower depths. I've never tried jigging for them. I have however done a fair amount of bottom fishing out in the Sound, but never even accidentally landed a ling. Thats one of the reasons I was leaning towards a guide for the first trip to learn the ropes.
Post by: h20hunter on April 07, 2011, 09:16:24 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,51343.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,51343.0.html)
Post by: h20hunter on April 07, 2011, 09:18:46 AM
Post by: PolarBear on April 07, 2011, 09:34:23 AM
Also, all you need to know is structure structur structure. If you aren't breaking off jigs you are not ling fishing. Live bait is fun but I just use a big 'ol jig and I do just fine every year.:yeah:
Kalin's Big N grubs with herring or squid. Just sayin'.
Post by: lokidog on April 07, 2011, 09:38:53 AM
I use 3 to 5 oz lead heads, they are a lot cheaper than bar jigs, the lings seem to love chartreuse tails. Weathergirl caught a 12 pounder a couple years ago on a jig. When we landed it, it spit out a piece of octopus arm, two herring with double hook rigs in them, and another large herring with no hooks. You can flavor up your jig with some bait, but the hassle of using just bait isn't worth it. I like to use the smallest sized jig that will get me to the bottom as they seem to swim more naturally.
Slack tides are the easiest to fish but I have had noticeable increase in activity as soon as the water starts moving after the slack.
Post by: h20hunter on April 07, 2011, 09:43:38 AM
I like a 2-5 oz jig head as well and just use a grub on there. Berkley swim baits can get some viscious strikes as well.
Post by: PolarBear on April 07, 2011, 09:47:55 AM
Post by: Dustin07 on April 07, 2011, 09:48:34 AM
Post by: h20hunter on April 07, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
Post by: lokidog on April 07, 2011, 09:56:08 AM
I got all updated scuba gear last year, let's go hunting!
Post by: Dustin07 on April 07, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
I've dove and speared my share. Last season when the put int he slot limit for divers I put the speargun away. Sorry, not going to take a chance by misjudging a fish by an inch and showing up at the dock with it. Also, don't want to bring one up and then chuck it if it is not legal sized.
good point
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 07, 2011, 05:02:20 PM
Post by: pjb3 on April 07, 2011, 11:59:12 PM
Post by: jeepster on April 08, 2011, 04:54:41 AM
bounce a 9oz round ball weight connected to a heavy duty salmon leader with a large plug-cut herring-riged leader off of the bottom........................ halibut, big-uglys, blackmouth....... its a foolproof rig
hell, if you want state-reccord sized halibut/lingcod............... freeze a whole pink salmon and use moster sized hooks..... rig the same as a horse herring...... if somebody is crazy enough to take that challenge... and something takes it, hold onto for dear life......... if you bring that fish to the boat..................... you might have new world reccord.....
Post by: PolarBear on April 08, 2011, 05:48:23 AM
Post by: Dustin07 on April 08, 2011, 08:28:50 AM
Post by: lokidog on April 08, 2011, 08:42:01 AM
Jeepster, 9 oz of weight is a bit much for here in the sound since there will likely be a 150 or so foot max depth for lings again this year (unless you are fishing at the peak of large tidal exchanges). I am actually kind of surprised that the state allows the use of bait since due to the tiny slot limit, most lings will have to be released and all rockfish as well. I was not saying bait does not work well, but there are tradeoffs, and personally, I have caught more fish on jigs than bait and I always know if I have a lure on the end of my line after yanking it out of the rocks a couple of times. I also have never had to deal with dogfish having only hooked two in five years of fishing out here and one was snagged.
Post by: PolarBear on April 08, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Post by: pjb3 on April 08, 2011, 04:03:08 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 08, 2011, 08:25:09 PM
Post by: blacktailcrzy on April 10, 2011, 03:06:35 PM
"jigging" aka " mooching" (but by my books "bouncing-off-the-bottom") a 6-10 oz weight with a 5/0 6/0 salmon leader hooked up to a horse-herring has produced 85% of my monster "big uglys"......... ive seen more lingcod caught on cut plug herring............coincidently, caught "blackmouth fishing" than any gear combo ever........... screw any other rig........ heavy weights, heavy duty lines/hooks, and a single fresh horse herring out produce any other rig. it doesnt matter....... that rig is KING, whether it be salmon (of any species), lingcod, halibut, or rockfish..... a single weight and a fresh herring is THE MOST PRODUCTIVE RIG for ALL OF NORTH AMERICA......
bounce a 9oz round ball weight connected to a heavy duty salmon leader with a large plug-cut herring-riged leader off of the bottom........................ halibut, big-uglys, blackmouth....... its a foolproof rig
hell, if you want state-reccord sized halibut/lingcod............... freeze a whole pink salmon and use moster sized hooks..... rig the same as a horse herring...... if somebody is crazy enough to take that challenge... and something takes it, hold onto for dear life......... if you bring that fish to the boat..................... you might have new world reccord.....
tho might be productive in some areas here in the sound a sand shark will swallow it as soon as it hits the bottom and after you fight one of those dogs you have to change your leader line and then if for some crzy reason a dog fish dose not pick it up the baits are only good for a few drops then you have to change and i feel that the one in the water the longest has the best chance so thats why i stick with plastics.
Post by: groundhog on April 21, 2011, 10:32:06 AM
Post by: longknife on April 21, 2011, 03:03:32 PM
Went to Alaska 4 yrs ago,on stayed on a boat for 3 days out of Homer. The lingcod fishing was the funnest! Everyone was loosing their jigs, mine was skipping perfictly in the rocks. After i cought about 25 lings, i cought the 57" bad boy! Could easily put my head in its mouth! heres a couple pics of the bad boy
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi965.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae140%2Frugerdog1%2FlingcodAKside.jpg&hash=ed840392955a6be83e9f75641099ff84648638a3)(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi965.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae140%2Frugerdog1%2FlingcodAK.jpg&hash=3df593c663432f4c23c7336d936c9a98134779f9)
One of last years halibut days,,BTW, best way to handle a ling is fingers in the eye socket!
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi965.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae140%2Frugerdog1%2Fhalibut1.jpg&hash=3918aaee2a2b644a2ba4c73f718ba67d96c22bce)
Post by: jackmaster on April 21, 2011, 03:11:26 PM
I'd like to. have boat and gear, but have never fished lings before. thinking of getting a guide for my first trip.well since i dont fish anymore i can give up a spot, if you put in at day island marina, head north under the narrows bridge stay kind of close to the east bank and when you get to marker 8 on the railroad tracks shut her down and fish the 60ft to 100 ft line, there has been great ling in there in the past a bit snaggy, or head to neah bay, go out to blue dot or swiftsure there is awesome ling fishn out there, good luck
Post by: longknife on April 21, 2011, 03:12:11 PM
PM me if your intrested.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi965.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae140%2Frugerdog1%2Flinglure.jpg&hash=21bd72b5e0f8953640ad29c314fced00ffd2d106)
Post by: lokidog on April 21, 2011, 10:05:47 PM
What's the weight on that?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 21, 2011, 10:34:15 PM
Post by: longknife on April 22, 2011, 03:44:40 AM
Fancy! I hope you bend the barb down before fishing. :rolleyes:
What's the weight on that?
Fishing out of LaPush, barbs are all good, as well as size.
This one is 16oz. I can make any specific weight, and colors.
Post by: hunter105 on April 22, 2011, 05:04:18 AM
Post by: Jerome on April 22, 2011, 01:02:42 PM
Post by: lokidog on April 22, 2011, 01:44:03 PM
I see that they didnt remove the 120 foot depth restriction for lings in the sound.
Surprised??
Still don't know why they don't just do the depth restriction on the rockfish as well. Hundreds of rockfish caught on my boat in the last five years in PS fishing less than 110 feet and have only landed two of the endangered ones, one was a juvenile, which the regs don't even show what they look like.
Oh yeah, better reduce the fisherman's catch of copper and quillback rockfish so the damn seals have more to eat. :bash:
Post by: Jerome on April 22, 2011, 02:02:33 PM
Post by: longknife on April 22, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
I see that they didnt remove the 120 foot depth restriction for lings in the sound.
Surprised??
Still don't know why they don't just do the depth restriction on the rockfish as well. Hundreds of rockfish caught on my boat in the last five years in PS fishing less than 110 feet and have only landed two of the endangered ones, one was a juvenile, which the regs don't even show what they look like.
Oh yeah, better reduce the fisherman's catch of copper and quillback rockfish so the damn seals have more to eat. :bash:
Ya, what really made me sick, was when we went 50 miles out of LaPush, they were snagging yellow eye like crazy! At 500+ feet, the stomach bursts, and they are released, floating on top of the water. Must have been 30 yelloweye floating, you think the state would put the dead to use....
Post by: pjb3 on April 24, 2011, 08:56:46 AM
No regs out yet so how does one know?
Post by: lokidog on April 24, 2011, 09:01:45 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01185/wdfw01185.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01185/wdfw01185.pdf)
You can download it.
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 01, 2011, 10:04:25 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 02, 2011, 07:37:38 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on May 02, 2011, 08:12:53 AM
Post by: xxlx7 on May 02, 2011, 12:12:05 PM
Post by: C-Money on May 02, 2011, 12:46:17 PM
Post by: xxlx7 on May 02, 2011, 12:49:00 PM
Post by: h20hunter on May 02, 2011, 12:49:39 PM
Very delicate flaky white meat. The small ones make great ling bait.
Post by: C-Money on May 02, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
Post by: xxlx7 on May 02, 2011, 01:01:15 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 02, 2011, 01:04:38 PM
104" for us in our boat. One 36", one 35.5 and one 32.5. Weight 18.8 lbs, 15.9 lbs, 12.7 lbs. Not a bad day for us three!!!!
No wonder I couldn't get any, you cleaned out my backyard! PM sent.
Post by: xxlx7 on May 02, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Post by: longknife on May 02, 2011, 04:28:36 PM
Lots of smalls caught(20-25), but couldnt get the last one tagged for PJB3. Tasty, Tasty!!
26 1/4" for me, and friend Ralph got a 28", you could watch the ling hit our line! was a awsome trip!
Thanks again PJB3!
Post by: Rob on May 02, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
That is a Kelp Greenling, really good little guys to eat, makes great fish and chips, we didn't target them, but we caught a couple and just added him to the picture to show the size of the lings.
They are good. I stopped targeting them as the last few I shot were filled with worms. Anyone else have this issue with Greenling?
Post by: xxlx7 on May 02, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
Post by: Jerome on May 02, 2011, 04:44:58 PM
Post by: longknife on May 02, 2011, 07:02:27 PM
"jigging" aka " mooching" (but by my books "bouncing-off-the-bottom") a 6-10 oz weight with a 5/0 6/0 salmon leader hooked up to a horse-herring has produced 85% of my monster "big uglys"......... ive seen more lingcod caught on cut plug herring............coincidently, caught "blackmouth fishing" than any gear combo ever........... screw any other rig........ heavy weights, heavy duty lines/hooks, and a single fresh horse herring out produce any other rig. it doesnt matter....... that rig is KING, whether it be salmon (of any species), lingcod, halibut, or rockfish..... a single weight and a fresh herring is THE MOST PRODUCTIVE RIG for ALL OF NORTH AMERICA......
bounce a 9oz round ball weight connected to a heavy duty salmon leader with a large plug-cut herring-riged leader off of the bottom........................ halibut, big-uglys, blackmouth....... its a foolproof rig
hell, if you want state-reccord sized halibut/lingcod............... freeze a whole pink salmon and use moster sized hooks..... rig the same as a horse herring...... if somebody is crazy enough to take that challenge... and something takes it, hold onto for dear life......... if you bring that fish to the boat..................... you might have new world reccord.....
Funny, we caught 1 ling all day with fresh herring,,,,dont get me wrong, i love to drift mooch, but diffrent seasons, diffrent situations, call for switch ups.
Post by: pjb3 on May 02, 2011, 08:14:26 PM
Great meeting you guys out there, had a blast, cooked my cod up this eve for dinner, YUMMO!!! :IBCOOL:
Can't wait til next time
Post by: PolarBear on May 03, 2011, 01:34:46 AM
Post by: Rob on May 03, 2011, 08:28:58 AM
hell, if you want state-reccord sized halibut/lingcod............... freeze a whole pink salmon and use moster sized hooks..... rig the same as a horse herring...... if somebody is crazy enough to take that challenge... and something takes it, hold onto for dear life......... if you bring that fish to the boat..................... you might have new world reccord.....
I am not sure as I have not read the regs carefully enough, but check them before you use salmon for bait. I seem to recall somewhere that using game fish for bait might be a no no. I could be wrong though-I have never looked into it in depth.
I do however know that Pinks are a major food supply for Halibut. I hear when the pinks come into the rivers, places like Sekiu are red hot with big halibut in very shallow waters.
Post by: h20hunter on May 03, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
Post by: xxlx7 on May 03, 2011, 01:13:32 PM
Post by: h20hunter on May 03, 2011, 01:26:44 PM
Post by: bigtex on May 03, 2011, 01:29:10 PM
I agree 100% but since it is a judgement call I still don't plan on diving/spearing them. All it takes is one warden to enforce the rule "as written" and I lose my boat/gear/truck or whatever depending on the fine. I'll stick to hook and line for now. Besides, plenty easy to catch once you have a good spot and get the gear and basics down pat.
:yeah:
Just because one or two or three WDFW Officers won't cite doesn't mean they all won't. There are a couple officers who essentially have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to WDFW violations.
Post by: h20hunter on May 03, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 03, 2011, 04:25:36 PM
Post by: Rob on May 04, 2011, 08:16:58 AM
Really hard to guess a fish's length to +/- 10 inches when they are all look 25% larger underwater...
I shot 2 large lings in my life and gave it up. They are the breeders, and they are soft, mushy and wormy anyway. Not worth it.
Post by: pjb3 on May 04, 2011, 08:23:56 AM
just wondering did any one catch a ling over the size limit this weekend
Longknife and a friend and I cought about 25 ling Sunday, no oversizers.
Post by: lokidog on May 04, 2011, 10:15:20 AM
Post by: pjb3 on May 04, 2011, 03:57:48 PM
Beautiful morning on the salt. Dropped the kids off for school and fished for about an hour. Caught 8 rockfish and three lings, all shorts. Had seven or eight hits with fight but lost. Oh well, next time.
Do they have black sea bass in the sound or just the ocean?
Post by: GEARHEAD on May 04, 2011, 08:09:27 PM
Post by: pjb3 on May 04, 2011, 08:19:46 PM
sorry for the ignorant question, have not got the regs yet. never heard of the depth restriction, is it less than or more than 120ft, praying its under. was gonna try monday. regardless i will read regs, just lazy for the moment.
Its under 120' to not catch rockfish. I catch my ling in 15' of water anyway so I'm good :IBCOOL:
Post by: gasman on May 04, 2011, 08:40:47 PM
sorry for the ignorant question, have not got the regs yet. never heard of the depth restriction, is it less than or more than 120ft, praying its under. was gonna try monday. regardless i will read regs, just lazy for the moment.
Its under 120' to not catch rockfish. I catch my ling in 15' of water anyway so I'm good :IBCOOL:
Prove it ;)
Post by: pjb3 on May 04, 2011, 08:42:31 PM
sorry for the ignorant question, have not got the regs yet. never heard of the depth restriction, is it less than or more than 120ft, praying its under. was gonna try monday. regardless i will read regs, just lazy for the moment.
Its under 120' to not catch rockfish. I catch my ling in 15' of water anyway so I'm good :IBCOOL:
Prove it ;)
Tides will be good first thing in the AM so I guarantee ling in 15' :chuckle:
Post by: dscubame on May 04, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Post by: gasman on May 04, 2011, 08:46:47 PM
sorry for the ignorant question, have not got the regs yet. never heard of the depth restriction, is it less than or more than 120ft, praying its under. was gonna try monday. regardless i will read regs, just lazy for the moment.
Its under 120' to not catch rockfish. I catch my ling in 15' of water anyway so I'm good :IBCOOL:
Prove it ;)
Tides will be good first thing in the AM so I guarantee ling in 15' :chuckle:
Well, I will report back after our trip whether or not you deliver on your gaurantee
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: longknife on May 04, 2011, 09:06:56 PM
sorry for the ignorant question, have not got the regs yet. never heard of the depth restriction, is it less than or more than 120ft, praying its under. was gonna try monday. regardless i will read regs, just lazy for the moment.
I will guarantee he will get you on ling 15-25' of water. You will be able to watch them attack your grubtail! Very cool!
Its under 120' to not catch rockfish. I catch my ling in 15' of water anyway so I'm good :IBCOOL:
Prove it ;)
Tides will be good first thing in the AM so I guarantee ling in 15' :chuckle:
Well, I will report back after our trip whether or not you deliver on your gaurantee
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: lokidog on May 04, 2011, 09:27:34 PM
Beautiful morning on the salt. Dropped the kids off for school and fished for about an hour. Caught 8 rockfish and three lings, all shorts. Had seven or eight hits with fight but lost. Oh well, next time.
Do they have black sea bass in the sound or just the ocean?
I've never seen any other than out at Neah Bay and down the coast. A neighbor says he and a couple others caught some around the San Juans but I have never seen it. Not sure why they are not around here. Caught all coppers and one quillback.
Post by: Huckleberry on May 04, 2011, 10:30:52 PM
Post by: bankwalker on May 05, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
Post by: GEARHEAD on May 05, 2011, 07:20:49 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 05, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
WELL i havnt looked at regs yet, i am still confused, ya say cant fish less than 120, but then say ya get em at 15, thinking me chain is being yanked, guess i got ta get the regs. the spot i go, i would say less than 12 feet is where i get them. discovered years ago when targeting rock cod, kept hooking lings.
I think the rule is no deeper then 125' it has to be less then 125' or so. I have only been told about the rules so I am not 100% sure. I think you can catch them in anything less then 120-125' :dunno:
Post by: lokidog on May 05, 2011, 08:36:32 PM
Post by: LndShrk on May 06, 2011, 10:54:50 AM
You MAY fish for lings in 0 to 120 feet of water. Not sure how they would enforce you being in 130 when in a lot of places that is only three feet away???
Three feet away and less than one second if you are fishing the right tides.. :IBCOOL:
Post by: lokidog on May 06, 2011, 05:01:02 PM
Self portrait, so calm out there I was able to set the camera on the back of the seat. :)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 06, 2011, 05:21:29 PM
Post by: gasman on May 06, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
Was great fishing with you for a while today and maybe we can do it some time.
We hit the island after we left you. I finnaly landed one but it was to small :bash:
Martin had a Hali hit his jig while fishing for lings that was bigger then the one he caught earlyier but it spit the jig :bash:
Post by: pjb3 on May 07, 2011, 01:41:33 PM
Did you get that of the spot we were in the AM?
Post by: lokidog on May 07, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
Got a ten pounder today. Hooked another bigger one that dove down three times before biting the lure off. :bash: Released three shorts, even with the wind. Got the keeper in a new spot I discovered while motoring home.
Post by: MuleySniper on May 07, 2011, 07:49:32 PM
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Post by: lokidog on May 08, 2011, 11:07:34 AM
I caught the one Sat. about 11:00 in 80 feet using a 4 oz jig with a 2 1/2 -3 1/2 knot current showing at the nearby current station. Part of it is to make the current work for you. The bad part is when the wind and current are opposed. If the whole water column is moving at the same rate as the boat, your jig will cover the bottom quickly but will still be mostly under the boat.
The fast moving is tough, of course, when the depth changes quickly, especially going uphill.
BTW, it does suck when people are late or cancel all together....
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 08, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
Post by: lokidog on May 08, 2011, 11:44:32 AM
The problem I see with the longer rods is wen you really need to pull hard, they seem to have too much flex for my tastes.
I use this same rod for ocean bottom fishing and even trolling a dive plane for salmon.
Post by: pjb3 on May 08, 2011, 12:57:42 PM
BTW, it does suck when people are late or cancel all together....
Is that because I was late or someone else on Sat morn? :dunno:
Post by: lokidog on May 08, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
BTW, it does suck when people are late or cancel all together....
Is that because I was late or someone else on Sat morn? :dunno:
No, you didn't cross my mind on that. Remember, I was supposed to have a buddy along to share gas, Saturday shrimping as well. Oh well, his loss.
Going to try to get out Wed. for shrimp and lings... tides/currents are looking great for midday.
Post by: lokidog on May 10, 2011, 11:07:44 PM
Eating a lot of ling this spring! :drool:
Post by: gasman on May 11, 2011, 04:47:10 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 11, 2011, 05:26:00 AM
Post by: lokidog on May 11, 2011, 07:09:08 AM
My hope is that the lings and rocks come back to the days of old before they allowed commercial fishermen in the to drag the bottom!!
Luckily they seem to grow/mature a lot faster than the rockfish. I (my boat) have caught more short twenty something lings this year than in the past four or five.
Post by: longknife on May 11, 2011, 07:18:14 AM
My hope is that the lings and rocks come back to the days of old before they allowed commercial fishermen in the to drag the bottom!!
Luckily they seem to grow/mature a lot faster than the rockfish. I (my boat) have caught more short twenty something lings this year than in the past four or five.
:yeah: seems i am fighting for keepers, but soo many in the 18-20" range = lots of knowlege!
Way to givem' hell Lokidog!!
Post by: lokidog on May 11, 2011, 07:44:24 PM
Post by: gasman on May 11, 2011, 07:47:03 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 11, 2011, 07:55:01 PM
Rub it in Loki, rub it in :nono:
I know, I know.... shame on me!
:kneel:
:chuckle: :chuckle: Just kidding, it is nice to be in the fish for a change though. Last year my boy and I each got one ling, and that was it.
Post by: Cap.Silver on May 11, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
Post by: longknife on May 15, 2011, 11:20:25 PM
Fridays catch (Has anyone ever seen that T-shirt before?)
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Thursdays catch
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Post by: TeacherMan on May 15, 2011, 11:35:57 PM
Headed in to Anacortes for groceries and gas this late afternoon. Wind and tides were good so I decided to try a rock that I have caught rockfish and one small ling on in the last couple years. First drop, hit bottom and strike, but missed. Nothing ssecond drop. Third drop, hit bottom and snagged... oh oh, snag is moving.... Woohoo! Nice ten pounder.
Eating a lot of ling this spring! :drool:
Do you run your own boat in from Orcas to Anacortes? How long a run is that? What size boat? Glad to see you catching the ling! Great eating!!!
Post by: lokidog on May 16, 2011, 09:34:14 AM
Oh yeah, got another keeper on Friday, 8 1/2 pounds :chuckle: and a bunch of shrimp.
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 18, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
Post by: Sneaky on May 18, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
The best bait I have ever used is just an old salmon leader with small pieces of herring on it. I use large hooks because they are less likely to swallow the hook.
Lingcod need a lively bait. they aren't like a halibut or lakers that will hit a big stagnant gob of bait. This is the key.
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 18, 2011, 09:24:59 PM
Post by: Sneaky on May 18, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 18, 2011, 09:41:15 PM
The regs are pretty stupid to allow halibut fishing in any depth but group sand dabs and flounder with lings and rockfish. :bash:
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 18, 2011, 09:50:01 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 18, 2011, 10:00:19 PM
Good luck and enjoy this nice weather, we're having summer this week, winter's coming....
Post by: longknife on May 18, 2011, 10:29:31 PM
I didnt think you were allowed to use live bait for fishing the sound...I see it in freshwater rules, but dont see it in saltwater rules. can anyone help me out? (not trying to be the officer no, know, just curious)
Hell, anything in their face(like a spawning bass), they are going to nail it.
Post by: Sneaky on May 19, 2011, 10:21:14 AM
I think the dark grubtails are knocking the lings dead!
I didnt think you were allowed to use live bait for fishing the sound...I see it in freshwater rules, but dont see it in saltwater rules. can anyone help me out? (not trying to be the officer no, know, just curious)
Hell, anything in their face(like a spawning bass), they are going to nail it.
common misconception. The rules for using live bait are different for different classes of fish. You aren't supposed to use live bait to fish for game fish like salmon, while live bait for food fish like lingcod and most other bottomfish is ok.
This is my understanding. I will find it in the regs and re-post.
You can catch lings on jigs if you have the right spot, but live bait is always the best option for bigger, badder fish.
Here is a 40"+ ling from the coast during on a halibut day caught with one of my home-made jigs. it can be done but not as easily. This one was caught on the UV glow herring model.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg543.imageshack.us%2Fimg543%2F6820%2F0512011449.jpg&hash=df55062e03553a22d25f1346bc4e7da335dc600c)
Post by: longknife on May 20, 2011, 07:11:42 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi965.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae140%2Frugerdog1%2Fhalibut1.jpg&hash=3918aaee2a2b644a2ba4c73f718ba67d96c22bce)
Post by: Sneaky on May 20, 2011, 09:55:45 AM
Post by: lokidog on May 20, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
Post by: longknife on May 21, 2011, 07:13:58 AM
Post by: lokidog on May 21, 2011, 09:22:33 AM
Didnt mean to litter your thread,,, :chuckle:
You were just making me jealous....
Post by: longknife on May 21, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
Didnt mean to litter your thread,,, :chuckle:
You were just making me jealous....
Hell, we have to keep up with all your good luck!!
Post by: Sneaky on May 21, 2011, 07:17:19 PM
To me, the location is more key than the lure (I have caught lings on all of my home-mades, in colors pink, blue, silver, glow, white, chartreuse, you get the idea.)
Here are some pics of my ling lures: poured in a custom mold my dad made and painted with whatever color + UV clearcoat/glitter
Some detail of the eyes/gills
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fm%2F859%2F8333%2Fjig1.jpg&hash=618490f56a94a5c848dbd21f03f927fcc7f3b9af)
Color lineup - Candlefish (~1 oz) Herring, Chartreuse, Glow White, Glow (~10.4 oz)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg268.imageshack.us%2Fimg268%2F7076%2Fjig2g.jpg&hash=ca3b4029e09a3e3e91112f9ba7efba5a2c020016)
crappy cell pics but you guys get the idea! Beats the heck out of snagging 5 bucks here, 7 bucks there, 3 bucks here...I also make intermediate sizes (~2 and 3 oz) in different shapes (candlefish, shad). All have caught fish.
Some lings from the sound (prior to 36" max, this fish was 37 and change if I remember right).
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fm%2F802%2F4474%2Flings.jpg&hash=6fa915c061a75c80d963dd9f3f11b823b62a1180)
Post by: h20hunter on May 21, 2011, 07:19:09 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 21, 2011, 08:51:14 PM
I mostly use 4 oz as I am usually battling current and/or wind. I like using smaller ones as they have a nicer presentation on the drop.
Post by: Sneaky on May 21, 2011, 09:34:35 PM
Loki - speaking of fresh bait, we had a ling cough up an entire octopus tentacle! it was probably around 2 ft long streched out! tipped one of my jigs with it and sent it down, caught a small cabezon. You never know what they are going to barf up!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 21, 2011, 10:00:31 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 21, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Trying to figure it out, I came up with the idea that the lings that are blue have a higher portion of their diet being crabs since crabs have hemocyanin, a copper based blood pigment that is blue. Kind of like flamingoes turning pink because of the pigments in the shrimp that they eat. I have recently learned that molluscs also have the same blood pigment as crustaceans.
It would be interesting to get some lingcod eggs from blue and regular fish and raise them feeding them different diets to see how they turn out, ie. will a ling with blue parents that only eats fish still turn out blue?
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 22, 2011, 04:35:05 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 22, 2011, 04:53:29 PM
i would share all my fish but my camera takes over 2000 kb is there away i can size them down :dunno:
Yes there are a lot of programs that you can use to resize the pic's. I use microsoft picture manager. All my pic's are way to big to post and I always have to resize them.
Post by: blacktailcrzy on May 22, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
Post by: Rob on May 23, 2011, 09:28:43 AM
We were very happy that they were all in the slot. One was one inch over the minimum, one was 2 inches from the max, and the last one was smack dab in the middle. You need to get a eye for it when spearing, trying to guess a ling's length inside of a 10 inch slot is nerve racking! The orange tape on the gun is the slot.
I shot the smallest one, and was pretty nervous until I got it on the ruler. It looked bigger when I pulled the trigger! Very hard to judge-remember, everything looks 25% larger underwater!
Still lots of ling out there in the slot! And man oh man was there a lot of gear on the bottom! Jigs and darts everywhere. I even pulled up a nice danforth Anchor that got snagged.
Post by: h20hunter on May 23, 2011, 09:33:05 AM
Post by: Rob on May 23, 2011, 09:34:10 AM
No charge, just need to meet me in the Bothell/Bellevue area.
The anchor is in good shape, it has 10 feet of chain that is pretty well rusted and probably not worth saving.
Post by: h20hunter on May 23, 2011, 10:04:23 AM
Post by: Rob on May 23, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
http://lovelab.id.ucsb.edu/books.html (http://lovelab.id.ucsb.edu/books.html)
I looked for a quote from him but could not find it easily enough.
He could be wrong I suppose, but he is probably the world's foremost expert on rock fish!
Post by: h20hunter on May 23, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 27, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
Caught five or six shorts while shrimping Wed. Had one big fish rip out about 15 feet of line then bite the jig off. :bash:
Fished for 7 minutes today on the way to town to work on the catfishing boat and caught this guy, not a ling but next best thing. Eight pounds, 22 inch Cabezon.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 27, 2011, 10:39:15 PM
Post by: lokidog on May 27, 2011, 10:57:07 PM
Thats a nice looking fish :IBCOOL:
Thanks, it's too bad 2/3 of the weight is in the head and guts... just shy of three pounds of meat. It will go well with fried shrimp tomorrow night. :drool:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 27, 2011, 11:00:45 PM
Post by: pjb3 on May 28, 2011, 09:35:32 AM
I have never caught one in this area, really want one though, very good eatin
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Post by: h20hunter on May 28, 2011, 10:10:03 AM
Post by: Sneaky on May 28, 2011, 09:55:24 PM
Made some new jigs tonight to try this weekend.
Flutter Jigs
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg543.imageshack.us%2Fimg543%2F4650%2Ffjigs.jpg&hash=c5922220804ffa1d496d5d4bc3655126280cd7f9)
And.....lights out
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg339.imageshack.us%2Fimg339%2F1470%2Fgjigs.jpg&hash=1db2098b580cefb9b52b3faca576715d2abd7b41)
Post by: lokidog on May 28, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
Crappy fishing day today. too much wind opposite the current while shrimping. Boat had three fish on but all self-released.
Post by: Sneaky on May 29, 2011, 07:50:24 AM
Neat jigs. It'd be interesting to see if they do better than just a white one.
Crappy fishing day today. too much wind opposite the current while shrimping. Boat had three fish on but all self-released.
I was thinking the same thing about the jigs - Testing them out at the coast isn't much of a test seeing as there are way more fish available than inside, but we had great success with the UV/Glow models I came up with this year compared to previous years.
Lets hope for some calmer weather in the coming week!
Post by: bankwalker on May 29, 2011, 10:39:11 AM
Update....
Caught five or six shorts while shrimping Wed. Had one big fish rip out about 15 feet of line then bite the jig off. :bash:
Fished for 7 minutes today on the way to town to work on the catfishing boat and caught this guy, not a ling but next best thing. Eight pounds, 22 inch Cabezon.
i have been catching alot and i mean alot of cabezon this season in elliot bay. usually 1 every 3 trips. and all from the bank.
Post by: lokidog on May 29, 2011, 10:47:32 AM
In the last five years we've only boated about six of them. A couple years ago my dad and I caught a 10 and 14 pounder on the same spot about ten minutes apart. He was pretty thrilled.
Post by: bankwalker on May 29, 2011, 05:57:30 PM
the lings have really slowed down the last 2 weeks which is unusual for the area i fish. it normally gets red hot as the season goes on....and the kelp starts to really grow. but colder temps is keeping the kelp from really growing and the bait fish just havent showed up yet. also we usually catch alot of bullheads for bait and have yet to catch a sinlge one this season....
im still averaging one 30+ inch ling hooked everyday where i fish. and not very many undersized fish this season. everything has been at least 30inch or well oversized
Post by: lokidog on May 29, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
Post by: lokidog on June 08, 2011, 10:24:49 PM
And, I've got more crab bait, woohoo!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 08, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
Post by: sebek556 on June 08, 2011, 10:32:32 PM
Post by: lokidog on June 09, 2011, 07:09:09 AM
ok a few buddys still at ft lewis will wanna kick me in the nuts for releasing this but... for those of you who enjoy lingcod but dont have a boat.Westport,wa by the pier is a hotel with little cabins next to the pier is a rock jetty, at the end of the jetty the water has a really nice drop into the channel when i was at lewis from 02-08 used to pull lingcod every other weekend from the end of this jetty using cut bait. i will warn you though very rocky and you will end up breaking line alot so bring lots or spares.
Watch your tides if you do this as I think there is a low spot on the jetty. The kings will also swim within range at the end of July. Hard place to fish w/o a boat though. Bring a really long handled net.
Post by: lokidog on June 12, 2011, 10:43:14 PM
Fished for an hour or two this evening after towing the neighbor to town. There are still some lings around. Twenty six and a half inches on the ling and twenty three inches on the cabezon. Released three short lings.
Hope everyone got to enjoy the nice day!
Post by: sebek556 on June 12, 2011, 10:52:35 PM
Post by: JKEEN33 on June 12, 2011, 11:13:19 PM
Alright, gotta keep this alive for a few days longer.
Fished for an hour or two this evening after towing the neighbor to town. There are still some lings around. Twenty six and a half inches on the ling and twenty three inches on the cabezon. Released three short lings.
Hope everyone got to enjoy the nice day!
Went out of Everett today. Friend caught an undersized and had the largest ling I have seen follow up a small rockfish to the boat. Other than that just lots of rockfish I had to let go.