Post by: iRem on April 19, 2011, 10:27:05 AM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 19, 2011, 10:56:39 AM
As far as what I have tried (just about all of them)
Buy diaphragms, it really does not matter at this point, but practice as much as possible, try as many diff ones as you can find, you will find one brand that you like.
as a beginner, you will probably do best with single reed, but.. :dunno:
I swear by my Sceery cow call, still has the best sound (in my opinion) and I can keep the volume at what I like.
Check out Elknuts stuff.
Post by: BallisticsNut on April 19, 2011, 11:12:04 AM
Take a look.
Post by: bearmanric on April 19, 2011, 11:16:59 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 19, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
You'll have to practice with a Diaphragm, but man is it worth it!
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 19, 2011, 11:32:21 AM
Post by: JPhelps on April 19, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
I make custom elk calls and can tune it how ever you would like. They make very good cow and calf talk but more importantly great estrus whines.
Check out my new webpage to give you some ideas on what my calls look like. You can also look under the sponsors forum to see some of my past calls and reviews from the members, as well as pricing.
If you would like get a hold of me. I am always willing to talk elk calling.
Jason Phelps
Phelps Game Calls
360.402.2617
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on April 19, 2011, 12:25:37 PM
Post by: iRem on April 19, 2011, 03:40:11 PM
Thank you so far for the advice. I will have to make a decision soon, so that I can pratice, practice and yeah.
Post by: gasman on April 19, 2011, 05:53:19 PM
Give me a Raging Bull and a Mellow yellow diaphragm with an Elk nut chuckler and thats all I need. The Mellow yellow sounds soooo good and easy to manipulate.
You'll have to practice with a Diaphragm, but man is it worth it!
Gotta go with "Mello Yellow" :tup:
Very easy to use, especially for a beginner. I buy a few every year and use them religiously. Rocky makes sone great calls, thats for sure.
http://www.buglingbull.com/ (http://www.buglingbull.com/)
Post by: ponyboy156 on April 19, 2011, 06:00:57 PM
Post by: Elknut1 on April 20, 2011, 06:03:53 AM
Consider the Bugling Bull Calls, they are some of the best we've all used here. I would recommend to you to pickup a Mellow Yellow & the All Star reed. These two are extremely soft tensioned latex reeds & will work very good for you or any caller for that matter. This is important to have the right reed for the job at hand or you can be easily discouraged with the wrong ones such as too tightly stretched reeds that will mislead you into thinking that all reeds are difficult to use, this is not so! Start off right! These reeds are available by us as well as instruction on them if needed!
If all you want to use are external calls then seriously consider bite & blow calls like the Estrus Whine or Hyper Lip Single, these are very good cow call choices!
For external bugles, (if you do not want to use mouth reeds) The thunder bugle is a good choice but I believe just about any of them will suffice for you as a novice caller.
As some have mentioned, it's much more important to know what you're saying when using any elk sound than blindly calling & just hoping for the best! Do your homework & you will get out of it what you put into it. Do not rely on luck but instead make your own luck!
www.elknut.com (http://www.elknut.com)
ElkNut1
Post by: THEBUGLER on April 20, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
Bugling bull game calls are the best calls out there hands down. They last long, and the sound is authentic. In fact their calls took all the 1rst place honors at the RMEF World Elk calling Championships in 2011. Learning to call is tough but is definitely worth while. I would have never been a successful elk hunter without calling. For tips & techniques for calling elk, check out this link http://elk101.com/ (http://elk101.com/)
Dirk
Post by: JPhelps on April 20, 2011, 09:07:19 PM
Now, I have Bugling Bulls who's your daddy and who's your daddy signature series and I will put my calls up against them any day. Now I will not lie I could take his or my calls out and kill elk with either (as a matter of fact a few of the bulls I have killed heard a bugling bulls call last) . The difference is my call is one of a kind and about $10 cheaper.
Here is a little more about my calls:
http://www.outdoorblog.net/pnwbowhunting/2011/03/06/interview-jason-phelps-of-phelps-game-calls/ (http://www.outdoorblog.net/pnwbowhunting/2011/03/06/interview-jason-phelps-of-phelps-game-calls/)
I will make you a deal iRem I will send you a call and if you like it you can pay for it if not I will pay for shipping back.
Post by: washelkhntr on April 20, 2011, 09:10:42 PM
I agree on the mouth calls and I use Bugling Bull diaphragms. The all star made for elk101 is an awesome call. I don't make diaphragms yet. :chuckle:
Now, I have Bugling Bulls who's your daddy and who's your daddy signature series and I will put my calls up against them any day. Now I will not lie I could take his or my calls out and kill elk with either (as a matter of fact a few of the bulls I have killed heard a bugling bulls call last) . The difference is my call is one of a kind and about $10 cheaper.
Here is a little more about my calls:
http://www.outdoorblog.net/pnwbowhunting/2011/03/06/interview-jason-phelps-of-phelps-game-calls/ (http://www.outdoorblog.net/pnwbowhunting/2011/03/06/interview-jason-phelps-of-phelps-game-calls/)
I will make you a deal iRem I will send you a call and if you like it you can pay for it if not I will pay for shipping back.
Now that right there is customer service. :tup: :tup:
Post by: TheHunt on April 20, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
This question is simular to the Ford vs Chevy thread we have all be reading lately.
I would suggest you buy the ElkNut CD on elk sounds then try to find a combo that matches your mouth and personal technique.
Each mouth is roughly the same but different. So one person can use a diaphragm and make a sound and another will sound slightly different. Think of it like the sounding chamber of a guitar.
Matching a CD audio real sound images to what you can call is the ticket.
Good luck
Post by: TheHunt on April 20, 2011, 09:22:04 PM
Look at the quality of the diaphragms you look at. I will not trash anyone on this publicly but grab 10 of them calls off the rack. If they are not anchored exactly the same location and they look like the tension of any of them is different. Then you need to ask yourself can you trust the quality of the call? Will there be inconsistency of the call that will mess with the tone you are trying to achieve.
Post by: fair-chase on April 20, 2011, 09:39:20 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 20, 2011, 09:49:01 PM
Some of the worst elk sounds I have ever heard came from REAL elk, Although I miss the Original Berry Best, Big Bull Diaphragm you used to get back in the 80's before they changed them...
Post by: Prime Time on April 20, 2011, 10:09:01 PM
Post by: TheHunt on April 20, 2011, 10:10:51 PM
Post by: THEBUGLER on April 21, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
Dirk
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 22, 2011, 03:36:21 PM
Post by: bearmanric on April 23, 2011, 09:41:47 AM
Post by: JPhelps on April 23, 2011, 09:47:45 AM
Your calls are great! I would never say that your calls can't compare. Your calls are a work of art. I use your sound boards for alot of my predator calls.
Our elk calls just give two different sounds is all.
Post by: iRem on April 23, 2011, 09:57:02 PM
Post by: vaz,,66 on May 13, 2011, 07:44:23 PM
Post by: iRem on May 14, 2011, 04:14:21 PM
What i would recommend to get all kinds of calls, why ? from my experience you never now what call will attract that elk .I remember one time i was after a good size bull for about 4 days in a row and every day he respond to a different call, good thing i have bunch of them and they are not too big and not heavy at all , when i call him he would respond but would not come you can tell that he was not interested , then I started change calls until i hit one which fired him up then i stick to that call, and every time i had brought that bull to a close range , not close for making shot but he did came almost from 600-700 yards away , this is what i realize during that hunt; that before i used call i like and i did hunt were i like but the deal is i didn't hunt after myself and i was not trying to call myself but elk , that's why need use call what elk like and hunt area were they like to be . what is absolutely most for every one especially bow hunter now how to use a diaphragm calls that's absolutely right , when you rady for shot and both of your hands holding your weapon and you need to stop that elk to make that shot happend you need to make a cow/calf call at this moment the best way to do that use a diaphragm call . I'm not trying to teach anyone just shering with my expireens that's allI was able to pick up a few calls and I have been praticing each one. I have a couple of diaphragm call, box and reed and have been learning how to use them in my house and car on the way to work. I really like the idea of listening to the different calls on U-Tube with my iPhone through my stereo. :IBCOOL:
Can't wait till the results from the permits to start scouting exactly were I'll be hunting this year!
Post by: Estrusscream23 on May 21, 2011, 08:37:16 PM
iREM,:yeah:
Bugling bull game calls are the best calls out there hands down. They last long, and the sound is authentic. In fact their calls took all the 1rst place honors at the RMEF World Elk calling Championships in 2011. Learning to call is tough but is definitely worth while. I would have never been a successful elk hunter without calling. For tips & techniques for calling elk, check out this link http://elk101.com/ (http://elk101.com/)
Dirk
Post by: OlympicElkJunkie on May 22, 2011, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: vaz,,66 on May 22, 2011, 03:13:50 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 22, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: vaz,,66 on May 22, 2011, 05:02:21 PM