Post by: LittleJohn on April 21, 2011, 06:19:15 PM
This is not going to be a plinker, I am going into law enforcement and this is going to be my service weapon. I am going to take some tactical lessons from a pro, once I make my choice. I am leaning toward to .40 cal too
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE AND OPINIONS!!!!!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2011, 06:27:21 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on April 21, 2011, 06:37:11 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on April 21, 2011, 07:01:58 PM
The cops will train you for free, why waste your money. All my cop friends carry 40's.They are buying me the gun, I just don't want to show up and not have a clue and not be able to hit my A$$. Thanks for the relies!!!
Post by: Jason on April 21, 2011, 07:15:16 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on April 21, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
Post by: Antlershed on April 21, 2011, 07:55:14 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 21, 2011, 07:59:48 PM
My G22 was awesome too, just a little big.
Post by: HntnFsh on April 21, 2011, 08:01:23 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on April 21, 2011, 08:05:26 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on April 21, 2011, 08:09:19 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
The cops will train you for free, why waste your money. All my cop friends carry 40's.They are buying me the gun, I just don't want to show up and not have a clue and not be able to hit my A$$. Thanks for the relies!!!
Don't worry. You will be taught the right way. I'd say you'll end up with a Glock.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2011, 08:36:32 PM
I like the comfort and the reliabbility of the Glocks. They'll eat anything you throw at them plus they feel comfortable in my hand. The XD's feel top heavy to me. I know they're good guns. I believe these pistols to be like backpacks...lots of good ones, you got to find one that fits you well. I just bought Glock #2, a Gen 3 Glock 23... .40 compact. Nice size.
My G22 was awesome too, just a little big.
jackelope.
Check out the Blackhawk Cross Six holster. I just got one for my Glock 23 and love it. I have the XD 45 and it is very top heavy.
Post by: mallard79 on April 21, 2011, 08:40:12 PM
Post by: demontang on April 21, 2011, 10:14:42 PM
Post by: Dirty Mike on April 21, 2011, 10:19:50 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 21, 2011, 10:49:12 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on April 21, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Post by: CementFinisher on April 21, 2011, 11:32:53 PM
Post by: FC on April 22, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
Post by: Mossy on April 22, 2011, 01:05:12 AM
Post by: addicted on April 22, 2011, 05:02:46 AM
Post by: BigD on April 22, 2011, 06:59:27 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2011, 08:16:46 AM
XDM 40 all they way 16+1 and the best semi auto on the market. Period! I have shot them all and can own any of them. But I trust my life every day to my xdm 40. The m&p 2ND " they are a very good gun" but I have found the ones that I have shot to be picky on ammo. You could not pay me to own a glock. I have shot a dz or more of them and never liked the fit or the groups that I have got from them. Plus had more malfunctions with glocks. I have run a little over 1k rounds threw my xdm and not had 1 malfunction or problem.
Many many many people and many many law enforcement officers will argue your statement. Plain and simple. This is like a Chevy vs. Ford discussion.
Look at the L.E. agencies using the Glock worldwide.
UsersCountry Organization Model
Australia New South Wales Department of Corrective Services,[63] New South Wales Police,[64][65] Queensland Police,[65] Western Australia Police,[65] and Northern Territory Police[65] Glock 22, Glock 23, Glock 27
Glock 17 outfitted with a thumb safety was designed specifically for the Tasmania Police[66] Also used by the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service[67] Glock 17
Austria Austrian Armed Forces[68][69][70] Glock 17 (designated Pistole 80)
Austrian Federal Police[71] Glock 17, Glock 19
Bangladesh Numerous law enforcement agencies and Bangladesh Army[72] Glock 17, Glock 22, Glock 23
Belgium Federal and local police forces[73] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 26
Brazil Department of Federal Police (DPF)[74] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 22
Canada Numerous local law enforcement agencies including those of Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa, Saskatoon, South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Police Service, and Toronto[69] –
Denmark Slaedepatruljen Sirius special forces[75] Glock 20
Czech Republic Non-standard sidearm issued to personnel on international deployments[76] Glock 17
601. Special Force Group[77] Glock 17
Ecuador National Police[69] –
Various special police units such as the GOE and GIR[69] –
Fiji Tactical Response Unit[78] –
Finland Primary service firearm of the police[79] –
Defence Forces[80] Glock 17 (designated 9.00 PIST 2008)
Department of Corrections (Vankeinhoitolaitos)[80] –
Border Guard[80] –
France Certain naval and parachute units of the French Army[70][81] Glock 17
Georgia Special forces[69][70] Glock 17
Germany GSG 9 of the German Federal Police[69] Glock 17
Greece EKAM[82] Glock 21
Greenland Siriuspatruljen[83] Glock 20
Hong Kong Special Duties Unit[69] Glock 17
Hong Kong Police Force[69] Glock 17
Iceland Icelandic National Police[84][85][86] –
Víkingasveitin[84][85][86] –
ICRU[84][85][86]
India National Security Guards[69][87] Glock 17, Glock 26
Maharashtra Force One[88][89] Glock 17, Glock 19
Special Protection Group (replaced with FN Five-seven in 2008)[90] Glock 17
Indonesia Indonesian Armed Forces[70] Glock 17
Iraq Iraqi security forces (largest user, purchased 125,163 pistols)[91][92] Glock 19
Israel Israeli Defense Forces[70] Glock 17, Glock 19
Jordan Royal Guard[69] –
Kosovo Kosovo Security Force[93][94] Glock 17
Latvia Latvian Military[70][95] Glock 17
Lithuania Lithuanian Armed Forces[70][96] Glock 17
Lithuanian police[97] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 26
Luxembourg Luxembourg Army[98] Glock 17
Unité Spéciale de la Police of the Grand Ducal Police[99][100] Glock 17, Glock 26
Malaysia Malaysian Armed Forces[101] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 34
Royal Malaysian Police[101] –
Mexico Secretaria de Marina[69] –
Montenegro Military of Montenegro[102] Glock 17
Netherlands Military of the Netherlands[70][103][104]
The Royal Marechaussee Brigade Speciale Beveiligingsopdrachten (Special Protection Assignments Brigade) persoonsbeveiliging (PB), observatie team (OT) and sky marshals sections also use the Glock 26[105] Glock 17, Glock 26
Dutch police (about 250 Glock 17 pistols in use as a stopgap measure by the Arrestatieteam (the SWAT-team of the Dutch police)[106][107][108] Glock 17
New Zealand New Zealand Police[109] Glock 17
Norway Norwegian Armed Forces[69][70] Glock 17 (designated P-80)
Pakistan Special Service Group of the Pakistan Army[110] -
Philippines Philippine National Police[69] –
National Bureau of Investigation[69] –
National Intelligence Coordinating Agency[69] –
Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency[69] –
Poland Polish Armed Forces[70] Glock 17
Polish police[111] Glock 19
Portugal Portuguese Marine Corps[70][112] Glock 17
Republican National Guard[112] Glock 19
Public Security Police[112] Glock 19
Romania Romanian Armed Forces[70] Glock 17
Russia Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD),[113][114] Federal service of Punishment Execution[115] Glock 17, Glock 19
Singapore Singapore Prison Service[116] Glock 19
Special Task Squadron (STS) of the Police Coast Guard[117] Glock 19
Spain Guardia Civil's UEI[118] Glock 17
Sweden Swedish Armed Forces[70][119][120] Glock 17 (designated Pistol 88), Glock 19 (designated Pistol 88B)
Switzerland Police (Gendarmerie) Cantonal of Geneva[121] Glock 19
Thailand National police (2,238 pistols)[69] Glock 19
United Kingdom Specialist Firearms Command of the London Metropolitan Police Service[122] Glock 17, Glock 26[123][124]
Scottish Police Specialist Firearms Units[125] Glock 17
Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI)[126] Glock 17
United States Department of Treasury IRS Criminal Investigation Division[127] –
U.S. Marshals Service[128] - Glock 22, Glock 23
Drug Enforcement Administration[129] –
Federal Bureau of Investigation[130] Glock 22, Glock 23
New York City Police Department[131] Glock 19
Baltimore City Police Department[132] Glock 22
Florida Highway Patrol[133] Glock 37
Thousands of other law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels[6] –
Venezuela Venezuelan Armed Forces[69][70] Glock 17
Yemen Military of Yemen[134] Glock 19
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 22, 2011, 08:30:29 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2011, 08:33:02 AM
Please repeat ...... :chuckle:
Condensed version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_22)
Soooooo many 9mm users.
I still say to each their own...it's obvious that any one of the 3 choices would be a great one...you just got to find what you like and what fits you well.
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2011, 08:33:53 AM
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Russia Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD),[113][114] Federal service of Punishment Execution[115] Glock 17, Glock 19
Post by: addicted on April 22, 2011, 08:34:41 AM
My buddy just got a new glock. ejector bent on it first day on the range. :dunno:
Post by: addicted on April 22, 2011, 08:38:14 AM
Post by: Dirty Mike on April 22, 2011, 08:42:58 AM
XDM 40 all they way 16+1 and the best semi auto on the market. Period! I have shot them all and can own any of them. But I trust my life every day to my xdm 40. The m&p 2ND " they are a very good gun" but I have found the ones that I have shot to be picky on ammo. You could not pay me to own a glock. I have shot a dz or more of them and never liked the fit or the groups that I have got from them. Plus had more malfunctions with glocks. I have run a little over 1k rounds threw my xdm and not had 1 malfunction or problem.
only a thousand rounds that's it? hmmm well keep shooting, the gentleman behind the counter at bullseye in tacoma has over 13,000 rounds through his glock 23 which is all stock, and yes i did say thirteen thousand. so maybe if you did have problems it was user error? Ive owned both never had any problems both great guns, i prefer the glock over the xd just because i don't like how bulky the top is. my glocks and my xd shot great groups, i dont think you can always blame it on the gun but the shooter. the gun at bulleye looking like crap all worn out, but shoots great groups and keeps on firing. :yike:
Post by: Dirty Mike on April 22, 2011, 08:47:17 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 22, 2011, 08:53:20 AM
Post by: GoldTip on April 22, 2011, 09:22:00 AM
Post by: superdown on April 22, 2011, 09:42:37 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 22, 2011, 10:05:31 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on April 22, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
http://youtu.be/0lbq9u-0R24 (http://youtu.be/0lbq9u-0R24)
XD tourture test
http://youtu.be/3XTPbPNWCV0 (http://youtu.be/3XTPbPNWCV0)
Notice in this video, like the M&P, it has feed problems under water
http://youtu.be/lj2_D_o2nac (http://youtu.be/lj2_D_o2nac)
Glock tourture test
Glock mud
http://youtu.be/Om3KuZFuW_0 (http://youtu.be/Om3KuZFuW_0)
Glock sand
http://youtu.be/XYkcewk3LSs (http://youtu.be/XYkcewk3LSs)
Glock underwater. Notice no feed failures
http://youtu.be/sbA4um6pORA (http://youtu.be/sbA4um6pORA)
Post by: SeaRun1 on April 22, 2011, 10:15:02 AM
SeaRun1
Post by: Antlershed on April 22, 2011, 10:16:41 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on April 22, 2011, 10:19:16 AM
I have thought about selling/trading it a few times and more recently now that I am thinking about getting a trap gun - but I dont like to get rid of my firearms at all. I'd rather keep them in my 'collection' even if I'll never shoot them. I recently sold one of my Colt Mustangs and used the money for a Howa Axiom, I love the rifle but regret selling the Colt. I have another one, but it is stainless, not blue like the one I sold. The only other guns I've gotten rid of was a Ruger Mini-30 and Ruger P90 years ago - and I STILL regret it even though I hated the P90! Silly I know. And kinda off topic....sorry! :dunno:
Post by: Caseyd on April 22, 2011, 10:23:35 AM
I ended up with a glock. Its what i shot best and felt the best to me. The key being ME, everyone is different.
*At the time they didnt have the XDM
Post by: Alchase on April 22, 2011, 12:32:41 PM
Does your hand prefer a double stack?
Safeties?
You can't go wrong with either no matter what any of us tell you.
Post by: LittleJohn on April 22, 2011, 01:54:02 PM
As some of u have said it is going to be what feels best to me. I am going to go up to Bullseye and try them all out,THANKS again for all the info, keep it coming :) :)
Post by: addicted on April 22, 2011, 08:08:43 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 22, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on April 23, 2011, 07:11:04 AM
XDM 40 all they way 16+1 and the best semi auto on the market. Period! I have shot them all and can own any of them. But I trust my life every day to my xdm 40. The m&p 2ND " they are a very good gun" but I have found the ones that I have shot to be picky on ammo. You could not pay me to own a glock. I have shot a dz or more of them and never liked the fit or the groups that I have got from them. Plus had more malfunctions with glocks. I have run a little over 1k rounds threw my xdm and not had 1 malfunction or problem.
Many many many people and many many law enforcement officers will argue your statement. Plain and simple. This is like a Chevy vs. Ford discussion.
Look at the L.E. agencies using the Glock worldwide.
UsersCountry Organization Model
Australia New South Wales Department of Corrective Services,[63] New South Wales Police,[64][65] Queensland Police,[65] Western Australia Police,[65] and Northern Territory Police[65] Glock 22, Glock 23, Glock 27
Glock 17 outfitted with a thumb safety was designed specifically for the Tasmania Police[66] Also used by the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service[67] Glock 17
Austria Austrian Armed Forces[68][69][70] Glock 17 (designated Pistole 80)
Austrian Federal Police[71] Glock 17, Glock 19
Bangladesh Numerous law enforcement agencies and Bangladesh Army[72] Glock 17, Glock 22, Glock 23
Belgium Federal and local police forces[73] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 26
Brazil Department of Federal Police (DPF)[74] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 22
Canada Numerous local law enforcement agencies including those of Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa, Saskatoon, South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Police Service, and Toronto[69] –
Denmark Slaedepatruljen Sirius special forces[75] Glock 20
Czech Republic Non-standard sidearm issued to personnel on international deployments[76] Glock 17
601. Special Force Group[77] Glock 17
Ecuador National Police[69] –
Various special police units such as the GOE and GIR[69] –
Fiji Tactical Response Unit[78] –
Finland Primary service firearm of the police[79] –
Defence Forces[80] Glock 17 (designated 9.00 PIST 2008)
Department of Corrections (Vankeinhoitolaitos)[80] –
Border Guard[80] –
France Certain naval and parachute units of the French Army[70][81] Glock 17
Georgia Special forces[69][70] Glock 17
Germany GSG 9 of the German Federal Police[69] Glock 17
Greece EKAM[82] Glock 21
Greenland Siriuspatruljen[83] Glock 20
Hong Kong Special Duties Unit[69] Glock 17
Hong Kong Police Force[69] Glock 17
Iceland Icelandic National Police[84][85][86] –
Víkingasveitin[84][85][86] –
ICRU[84][85][86]
India National Security Guards[69][87] Glock 17, Glock 26
Maharashtra Force One[88][89] Glock 17, Glock 19
Special Protection Group (replaced with FN Five-seven in 2008)[90] Glock 17
Indonesia Indonesian Armed Forces[70] Glock 17
Iraq Iraqi security forces (largest user, purchased 125,163 pistols)[91][92] Glock 19
Israel Israeli Defense Forces[70] Glock 17, Glock 19
Jordan Royal Guard[69] –
Kosovo Kosovo Security Force[93][94] Glock 17
Latvia Latvian Military[70][95] Glock 17
Lithuania Lithuanian Armed Forces[70][96] Glock 17
Lithuanian police[97] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 26
Luxembourg Luxembourg Army[98] Glock 17
Unité Spéciale de la Police of the Grand Ducal Police[99][100] Glock 17, Glock 26
Malaysia Malaysian Armed Forces[101] Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 34
Royal Malaysian Police[101] –
Mexico Secretaria de Marina[69] –
Montenegro Military of Montenegro[102] Glock 17
Netherlands Military of the Netherlands[70][103][104]
The Royal Marechaussee Brigade Speciale Beveiligingsopdrachten (Special Protection Assignments Brigade) persoonsbeveiliging (PB), observatie team (OT) and sky marshals sections also use the Glock 26[105] Glock 17, Glock 26
Dutch police (about 250 Glock 17 pistols in use as a stopgap measure by the Arrestatieteam (the SWAT-team of the Dutch police)[106][107][108] Glock 17
New Zealand New Zealand Police[109] Glock 17
Norway Norwegian Armed Forces[69][70] Glock 17 (designated P-80)
Pakistan Special Service Group of the Pakistan Army[110] -
Philippines Philippine National Police[69] –
National Bureau of Investigation[69] –
National Intelligence Coordinating Agency[69] –
Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency[69] –
Poland Polish Armed Forces[70] Glock 17
Polish police[111] Glock 19
Portugal Portuguese Marine Corps[70][112] Glock 17
Republican National Guard[112] Glock 19
Public Security Police[112] Glock 19
Romania Romanian Armed Forces[70] Glock 17
Russia Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD),[113][114] Federal service of Punishment Execution[115] Glock 17, Glock 19
Singapore Singapore Prison Service[116] Glock 19
Special Task Squadron (STS) of the Police Coast Guard[117] Glock 19
Spain Guardia Civil's UEI[118] Glock 17
Sweden Swedish Armed Forces[70][119][120] Glock 17 (designated Pistol 88), Glock 19 (designated Pistol 88B)
Switzerland Police (Gendarmerie) Cantonal of Geneva[121] Glock 19
Thailand National police (2,238 pistols)[69] Glock 19
United Kingdom Specialist Firearms Command of the London Metropolitan Police Service[122] Glock 17, Glock 26[123][124]
Scottish Police Specialist Firearms Units[125] Glock 17
Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI)[126] Glock 17
United States Department of Treasury IRS Criminal Investigation Division[127] –
U.S. Marshals Service[128] - Glock 22, Glock 23
Drug Enforcement Administration[129] –
Federal Bureau of Investigation[130] Glock 22, Glock 23
New York City Police Department[131] Glock 19
Baltimore City Police Department[132] Glock 22
Florida Highway Patrol[133] Glock 37
Thousands of other law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels[6] –
Venezuela Venezuelan Armed Forces[69][70] Glock 17
Yemen Military of Yemen[134] Glock 19
Doesnt Glock give huge $ discounts to Law enforcement and military.I think that could be a big reason so many places use them.
Post by: Bofire on April 24, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
Carl
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 25, 2011, 12:24:05 AM
Glock sand
http://youtu.be/XYkcewk3LSs (http://youtu.be/XYkcewk3LSs)
Thanks for taking the time to share those videos
I spent some time watching some other ones as well
Look familiar?
Glock 26 Dirt Torture Test 2 Jams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soh3FYQ_y5I#ws)
I started shooting handguns in the 90's when glocks were the only way to go... as far as autos anyway. I have a first gen model 23 that has at least 10,000 rounds through it. Scratched, ugly and beat up, the ol' "combat tupperware" just goes bang every time I pull the trigger. I have had 1 jam, a stove pipe when I was practicing my off hand skills. but I think thats a pretty good track record. I have a gen 2 model 20 that is still shiney new with maybe 1,000 rounds through it. No malfunctions yet. my next one will probably be a model 29. I really like the Glocks but thats what I started with and I'm familiar with them. I haven't filled one with sand and tried to shoot it but I did go for an unplanned swim in the saltwater once with the M23 on my hip. A day later I was able to clean it but there wasn't a speck of rust on it anyway.
They are all good guns and reading the debates between them is pretty entertaining (not quite as entertaining as the "which caliber?") Just remember that any gun can and will malfunction under the right (or wrong) conditions and videos are easily edited or reshot to support a view. And Just like "Ford VS Chevy" everyone has their personal preference.
Oh Yeah................. and Springfield XD's Suck!
Post by: Hank on April 25, 2011, 01:18:41 AM
The cops will train you for free, why waste your money. All my cop friends carry 40's.They are buying me the gun, I just don't want to show up and not have a clue and not be able to hit my A$$. Thanks for the relies!!!
Little John,
What agency are you working for? In Washington State you don't usually just "get into law enforcement," for a commission you are required to attend the 720 hour Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission Academy. That's after a minimum of three interviews a psych interview and a poly graph exam. No disrespect, but it sounds a little, liaise fare, to say that a department is going to buy you a gun and then award you a commission.
That being said, I was issued a Glock 21 when I attended the academy back in 2005. I completed the 110 hour block of range qualification without a malfunction. I still use the same gun on patrol I also use it to shoot in a Police Combat Pistol league. Off duty I carry a Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm compact. I prefer it over the 40 cal M&P because of the magazine capacity. One other thing to consider with the M&P is the fact that there is a safety feature that does not allow the the weapon to fire when there is no magazine in the well. Not a big deal for a sportsman carrying the gun in the field, but it could be an issue in a combat situation. This feature is easily disabled, but you have to consider department policy which may consider disabling a safety feature a violation. If you don't want this feature on your gun make sure you order it with this feature already disabled.
Post by: LittleJohn on April 25, 2011, 05:05:35 AM
The cops will train you for free, why waste your money. All my cop friends carry 40's.They are buying me the gun, I just don't want to show up and not have a clue and not be able to hit my A$$. Thanks for the relies!!!
Little John,
What agency are you working for? In Washington State you don't usually just "get into law enforcement," for a commission you are required to attend the 720 hour Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission Academy. That's after a minimum of three interviews a psych interview and a poly graph exam. No disrespect, but it sounds a little, liaise fare, to say that a department is going to buy you a gun and then award you a commission.
That being said, I was issued a Glock 21 when I attended the academy back in 2005. I completed the 110 hour block of range qualification without a malfunction. I still use the same gun on patrol I also use it to shoot in a Police Combat Pistol league. Off duty I carry a Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm compact. I prefer it over the 40 cal M&P because of the magazine capacity. One other thing to consider with the M&P is the fact that there is a safety feature that does not allow the the weapon to fire when there is no magazine in the well. Not a big deal for a sportsman carrying the gun in the field, but it could be an issue in a combat situation. This feature is easily disabled, but you have to consider department policy which may consider disabling a safety feature a violation. If you don't want this feature on your gun make sure you order it with this feature already disabled.
Thanks for the info, I am going to be a county deputy in Montana, I have been going through the testing the last couple of months and got the call 2 weeks ago that they are going to hire me, Pending a background check(spotless). I won't be going to academy till January, I will be doing 16 weeks of training on the job with the dept before academy and will need to qualify through the dept to carry during training, I am looking to get some practice with my carry weapon before then.
My Brother in a Officer in Olympia and carries a M&P and really likes it, He has a Glock 21 also and a 27 as a back-up.
I am going to Bullseye in TAcoma this week so I can shoot all three brands and get one that is comfi in my hand, That seems to be the thing to look for with all the advice I have been getting from here and my friends, "get one that fits you"
THanks again for the info Hank, any and all advice about the field will be welcomed. What Dept do u work for??
Post by: DeerHarvester on April 25, 2011, 05:23:22 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 25, 2011, 11:47:42 AM
Post by: duckaholic on April 25, 2011, 01:09:34 PM
1000 Round Glock Torture Test Part Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZxQfIBXDc#)
Glock 21 Buried 2 years then 500rd test fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5Kcs4dzro#)
Glock 21 Buried 2 years then 500rd test fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5Kcs4dzro#)
Post by: LittleJohn on April 25, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
I just got back from Cabelas and Wholesale Sports and got my hands on a few guns. I did not care for the XD, just didn't feel right to me. I did like the G4 Glock though and the M&P, I like that they both have interchanging grips to custom fit my hand and both are very simple and easy to operate. The M&P was a little for comfortable, but I can't get the reliability of the Glock out of my head. 90% of everyone I talk to says the Glocks are Rock Solid machines.
I wanted to go to Bullseye and shoot them, but they don't have the G4 Glock or the M&P for rent :dunno: :dunno:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 25, 2011, 04:12:22 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on April 25, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 25, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
Incase you did not know the xdm fits a little diffrent and comes with 3 diffrent grip inserts.
I definitely liked the xdM over the xd FWIW.
Post by: hughjorgan on April 25, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
Thanks for posting videos Duck,
I just got back from Cabelas and Wholesale Sports and got my hands on a few guns. I did not care for the XD, just didn't feel right to me. I did like the G4 Glock though and the M&P, I like that they both have interchanging grips to custom fit my hand and both are very simple and easy to operate. The M&P was a little for comfortable, but I can't get the reliability of the Glock out of my head. 90% of everyone I talk to says the Glocks are Rock Solid machines.
I wanted to go to Bullseye and shoot them, but they don't have the G4 Glock or the M&P for rent :dunno: :dunno:
Have you already been hired by a Law Enforcement Agency? If you haven't you might want wait before buying because they will give a discount for being law enforcement. Are these the only three brands that are policy approved for whom you are going to be working for too? If not you might want to look at H&K or Sig Sauer.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 25, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Incase you did not know the xdm fits a little diffrent and comes with 3 diffrent grip inserts.
I definitely liked the xdM over the xd FWIW.
I agree 100% I do not care for the xd but love the xdm. The changes in the two really made the xdm great!
Post by: LittleJohn on April 25, 2011, 04:38:29 PM
I did pick up a Kimber today that felt AMAZING, it was a 1911 looking gun, really nice, but not what i would consider a service weapon. My TO told me to run it by him before I make the purchase, he did not mention any other criteria :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on April 25, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
I figured a Montana deputy would be carrying a six gun.
Post by: LittleJohn on April 25, 2011, 04:43:08 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on April 25, 2011, 04:54:02 PM
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Post by: wildmanoutdoors on May 12, 2011, 07:31:55 AM
Love Glocks too but it was time for a change. Had a couple. Anybody who says Glocks arnt reliable hasn't much a clue.