Post by: KLRKeith on April 23, 2011, 11:51:19 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on April 23, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 23, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
Post by: hogsniper on April 23, 2011, 02:53:53 PM
Post by: bearmanric on April 23, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
Post by: HornHoarder on April 23, 2011, 03:26:32 PM
Post by: oldleclercrd on April 23, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
I think if you know someone is working a group of birds and you know it when you try to butt in, thats rude. However, if you have no knowledge of any hunters in the area and start calling, and just so happen to screw up someones setup thats just public land.
Post by: GlennGTR on April 23, 2011, 04:44:27 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?The answer to that would be, absolutely it is rude. Do they still teach ethics in hunter ed? Not so much a part of what you get when hunting public land, but what you get when you raise an entire generation of inconsiderate, rude , slob hunters. We are not helping ourselves by raising the next generation to show little respect.
Post by: KLRKeith on April 23, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
Yep I understand it's public land. I was just venting. lol..
I hunt public land 99% of the time and it's not a first.
Yes it's wrong when you know someone is set up. I pulled in there last weekend and another vechicle was allready there so I left.
Post by: HornHoarder on April 23, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
Post by: KillBilly on April 23, 2011, 06:10:02 PM
Post by: Gutpile on April 23, 2011, 06:24:16 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
How do you know they knew you were after those particular birds. I understand being frustrated but I dont think they did anything wrong. :twocents: If you had keyed there car then that would be complete :crap: Now, if they KNEW you were after those birds then yes, it is very rude.
Dont get me wrong I understand your frustration but public land is public land. Thats the breaks. happens to all of us.
Also if those birds were roosting that close to the parking area (you saw the headlights) how in the world is it that you think your the only ones who knew about those birds.
Better luck next time.
Post by: gasman on April 23, 2011, 06:35:13 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
How do you know they knew you were after those particular birds. I understand being frustrated but I dont think they did anything wrong. :twocents: If you had keyed there car then that would be complete :crap: Now, if they KNEW you were after those birds then yes, it is very rude.
Dont get me wrong I understand your frustration but public land is public land. Thats the breaks. happens to all of us.
Also if those birds were roosting that close to the parking area (you saw the headlights) how in the world is it that you think your the only ones who knew about those birds.
Better luck next time.
Could not have said it better my self.
Post by: KLRKeith on April 23, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Yes they new I was there I stopped them with my flashlight and a whistle. They saw me wave and pressed on to the sweet sound of gobbling. I was tickled I called in two toms for those bozo's...lol..
Later.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 23, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
Post by: bucklucky on April 23, 2011, 08:11:43 PM
Post by: piledup on April 23, 2011, 08:17:06 PM
Post by: bucklucky on April 23, 2011, 08:19:05 PM
I wonder how many times an idiot like me has screwed somebody elses set up by not knowing what I was doing :o
I think I heard a gobbler over in this here area somewheres, maybee I can get close enough to see him. Kind of souded like he was up in this here tree . :chuckle:
Post by: JKEEN33 on April 23, 2011, 09:50:48 PM
Post by: Gutpile on April 24, 2011, 07:43:04 AM
I guess you missed the "I was venting"..Never had nor never will key someones rig; I just wanted to..
Yes they new I was there I stopped them with my flashlight and a whistle. They saw me wave and pressed on to the sweet sound of gobbling. I was tickled I called in two toms for those bozo's...lol..
Later.
Thats a bummer. One time I had two coming in so hot I couldn't believe it. they were 40 or so yards in front of me just behind a little rise. these birds were so juiced up i still cant believe it. They were right there just a few more feet then some guy behind me starting doing the worst calling I have ever heard and off they went. :bash: I dont claim to be good but this guy was BAAAAAD!!. I was so pissed i could hardly stand it but thats unfortunately public land hunting. I've been screwed up a few times but I bet i've chased a few birds that someone else was after before as well.
BTW I wasn't claiming you would key a rig, just saying "if you had".
Bottom line.......................I hate turkeys!!!
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2011, 07:49:20 AM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
It's bad sportsmanship to set up where someone else is already. Sometimes you do it unwittingly and people get their feelings hurt. A good sportsman will realize his mistake and pull out at that point. But, you're never going to get rid of all the jerks. Take a deep breath and move down the road.
Post by: one more on April 24, 2011, 04:19:58 PM
I've turned around and hunted another road when I've seen a hunter sitting next to the road. It does feel bad when you've roosted the birds he's waiting for or your birds are farther down that same road.
A little flash light is a good way to show another hunter where you are. Just don't point it up into the trees.
Diane
Post by: KillBilly on April 24, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
How do you know they knew you were after those particular birds. I understand being frustrated but I dont think they did anything wrong. :twocents: If you had keyed there car then that would be complete :crap: Now, if they KNEW you were after those birds then yes, it is very rude.
Dont get me wrong I understand your frustration but public land is public land. Thats the breaks. happens to all of us.
Also if those birds were roosting that close to the parking area (you saw the headlights) how in the world is it that you think your the only ones who knew about those birds.
Better luck next time.
Could not have said it better my self.
Duh, you were there first.....
Post by: billythekidrock on April 25, 2011, 05:52:19 AM
I was tickled I called in two toms for those bozo's...lol..
Tickled or ticked?
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on April 25, 2011, 07:09:50 AM
Me personally I would have backed out and looked for a new spot. Never did get a turkey out of that area and I'm still trying for my first. Lately been working harder on getting my son his first. Got a few scoped out hopefully this year will be the year.
Post by: Seatown5 on April 25, 2011, 08:54:05 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on April 25, 2011, 09:20:07 AM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
Yes....without question. Go find another spot or get up earlier.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 25, 2011, 09:34:32 AM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
Yes....without question. Go find another spot or get up earlier.
Agreed completely.
Post by: Kuduman on April 25, 2011, 10:05:27 AM
Been there and that's why I rarely hunt public lands. It's almost a sure bet that when you find birds that someone else has found them to. this past week I was on some Private property and the birds that had been using that field were landing close to the property line. 30 seconds after the tom hit the ground....BOOM another hunter was on the property line and killed a nice tom that I had hoped my youth hunter would bag. :dunno:
Not their fault.. they had as much right to that bird as I and quite frankly if my youth hunter would have bagged that gobbler I would never had mentioned it.
solution.... don't expect other hunters to treat you with the respect that you treat them. if you want totally undisturbed hunting than private property is the only option.
sorry this happened but it's all to common these days.
Kuduman
Post by: klickriverchromer on April 25, 2011, 10:52:04 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 25, 2011, 11:51:00 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on April 25, 2011, 12:15:02 PM
That's part of the joy of hunting public land. Makes it more rewarding to harvest a turkey in public places where the hunters are abundant. I used to get upset when somebody else messed up a hunt for me. Now days, I plan around other hunters and try and get the bird even when they are in the area, but definately not if they're there first and I know that. Unfortunately too many other hunters out there these days could care less about etiquette. Thanks to those who do. :)
Post by: HornHoarder on April 25, 2011, 12:35:48 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
Yes....without question. Go find another spot or get up earlier.
Agreed completely.
So what your saying is one person per piece of public land? :dunno: What if there is thousands of acres? Like I stated earlier I rarely hunt public land, but am intrigued by some of your responses.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 25, 2011, 12:40:29 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on April 25, 2011, 02:08:59 PM
Common sense should tell you to not put yourself on top of someone....like in a duck blind, turkey area, fishing hole, whatever situation it may be. Of course it depends on the area and the situation. However if you pull into a parking spot and there is a vehicle there and you hear roosting birds gobbling, it should be apparent to all except those without brain cells, that the probability is fairly high, that said vehicle's occupants are set up on those birds. How damn difficult is that?
Those same people who impose on you are also the one's that can't read....like in trespass. That also puts the screws to all of us on a less personal, not the day of, sort of way.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 25, 2011, 02:43:40 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
Yes....without question. Go find another spot or get up earlier.
Agreed completely.
So what your saying is one person per piece of public land? :dunno: What if there is thousands of acres? Like I stated earlier I rarely hunt public land, but am intrigued by some of your responses.
That's not what anyone's saying - one hunter per piece of land. What many of us ARE saying is when you see someone is hunting, it sucks when you get out and decide to set up right where he is, especially if you're talking about a parcel with thousands of acres and other places you could go. For example, the rule of thumb during goose season is set up at least 450 yards away from another spread, for safety and consideration. If you have a spread set up and someone else comes along and sets up 100 yards away, knowing full well you're there and have been before they got there, they're just being jerks, public land or not.
Post by: gasman on April 25, 2011, 05:31:15 PM
It seams that most people postng here are "Holyier then Thou".
Many times I have parked and hunted an area and come out to find one or more rigs parked at the same place as I. Some times I see other hunters, some times I don't.
Have I parked next to a person that was hunting the same area as I? yes. There is plenty of room for more then one person to hunt. If I go into a planned area and there is another person in there before me, I keep going as planned. I do not know if they have the same idea as I or not. If he does, I move on. Many times you will find that they did not even go in the same dirrection as me. If I see another person huntin the area, I will stop and talk with them to make sure we have different plans give each other plenty of room. May be we can help each outher out in a way, who know.
If I am set up and someone walks in to an area I am hunting, I will make sure they know I am there. Most times they turn around or move on, just as I would.
To many people think that if they area there first, the whole area belongs to them :bdid:
Flame On :stirthepot:
Post by: Justin7mm on April 25, 2011, 05:45:36 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on April 25, 2011, 06:05:18 PM
As an example, I do feel if you get up at 3 a.m., motor across the Potholes Reservoir to a location, put out decoys, then kill a hour or so before you hear the others start launching in the distance, only to have someone eventually appear and set up within bird shot distance of you is plain stupid and ignorant.
It's about common sense and expectations....not holier than thou.
Post by: jstone on April 25, 2011, 06:12:25 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on April 25, 2011, 06:19:55 PM
Post by: lokidog on April 25, 2011, 09:38:03 PM
I don't think most people feel like if they are first in an area that it's theirs. Again it what you are hunting and location to mention a few variables.
As an example, I do feel if you get up at 3 a.m., motor across the Potholes Reservoir to a location, put out decoys, then kill a hour or so before you hear the others start launching in the distance, only to have someone eventually appear and set up within bird shot distance of you is plain stupid and ignorant.
It's about common sense and expectations....not holier than thou.
:yeah:
I had a guy and his kid come in behind me and my kid this year while trying to set up on a gobbler that was on the opposite side of me than this guy. Ended up blowing the bird out. He knew I was there, saw and heard me there, and yet kept on coming and calling. That is the problem, not someone that happens to walk past my treestand fifteen minutes before the deer I have patterned are predicted to come by because he had no idea I was there.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 26, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
It's about common sense and expectations....not holier than thou.
Exactly. I didn't understand the holier than thou comment.
Post by: turkeyfeather on April 26, 2011, 08:26:55 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 26, 2011, 03:14:20 PM
Post by: gasman on April 26, 2011, 03:31:29 PM
It's about common sense and expectations....not holier than thou.
Exactly. I didn't understand the holier than thou comment.
It is for those out there that believe if they were there first, the area belong to them and no one else can hunt there area or close by.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 26, 2011, 03:35:57 PM
It's about common sense and expectations....not holier than thou.
Exactly. I didn't understand the holier than thou comment.
It is for those out there that believe if they were there first, the area belong to them and no one else can hunt there area or close by.
But no one in here is saying that no one else should hunt or that the area belongs to them. They're only saying inconsideration and ignoring someone who's already setup is wrong. If you see someone all setup, you don't go and setup right next to them. That's all.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 26, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
It's about common sense and expectations....not holier than thou.
Exactly. I didn't understand the holier than thou comment.
It is for those out there that believe if they were there first, the area belong to them and no one else can hunt there area or close by.
I never saw one post on this topic that mentioned this. I think you read into it wrong.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 26, 2011, 03:41:50 PM
Post by: gasman on April 26, 2011, 04:13:38 PM
I understand your frustration, but that goes along with hunting public land. Is it really rude or unethical to hunt a public spot when somebody is already there?
Yes....without question. Go find another spot or get up earlier.
Agreed completely.
Here is an example of waht I am talking about.
And I am not refering to only turkey, I am refering to all hunting.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 26, 2011, 04:16:20 PM
Post by: gasman on April 26, 2011, 04:34:35 PM
Its only inconsiderate durring turkey season?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 27, 2011, 12:11:00 PM
Post by: gasman on April 27, 2011, 02:49:21 PM
Why is this still even a conversation?
Looks like it died untill you posted back up :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: