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Title: need hep with ID
Post by: boneaddict on April 23, 2011, 06:11:49 PM
Can someone tell me what kind of duck this is PLEASE
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Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: washelkhntr on April 23, 2011, 06:13:52 PM
 Northern Shoveler
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: boneaddict on April 23, 2011, 06:21:11 PM
Thank you.   I wondered if it was a shoveler just because of his bill and how he fed.   How about the kids flying behind him.  I thought Ringneck, but then again I don't see a ring.LOL
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Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: washelkhntr on April 23, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
Those are Ring-Necked.

Most of the time, unless you are right on top of them or holding them in your hand, it is hard to see the ring.
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: boneaddict on April 23, 2011, 06:30:28 PM
THANK YOU!
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: washelkhntr on April 23, 2011, 06:33:34 PM
Doug, are those recent? I see a bunch every year by my place, but they have been gone for about a month now. Just curious.

Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: boneaddict on April 23, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
Yesterday.  I saw a Ruddy in mid color phase too. 
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: 270Shooter on April 23, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Thank you.   I wondered if it was a shoveler just because of his bill and how he fed.   How about the kids flying behind him.  I thought Ringneck, but then again I don't see a ring.LOL
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Those divers are not ringnecks they are scaup aka bluebill.
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 23, 2011, 10:26:04 PM
Nice pics
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 23, 2011, 10:34:24 PM
]Those divers are not ringnecks they are scaup aka bluebill.


That was too Easy,     Now are they Lesser or Greater Scaup?    :dunno:



 :chuckle:
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 23, 2011, 10:38:40 PM


Nice pictures by the way.  I've taken a couple hen shovlers but a drake is definetly on my top 5 "need to bag one list"
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Crispy on April 23, 2011, 11:01:25 PM
Those divers are not ringnecks they are scaup aka bluebill.

Noticed that, too - white patch on the front of the face on the hen and the bright blue bill with no white "outlines" on the drakes give it away. Managed to get a few last season year and they sure are a pretty bird.

I'm curious if they are greater or lesser too, though. Any tips from experience telling them apart?
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 23, 2011, 11:12:34 PM
I'm curious if they are greater or lesser too, though. Any tips from experience telling them apart?


It's pretty tough for me to tell them apart, size is the main difference, I believe the greaters tend to have a more greenish head while the lessers tend to have more of a purpleish tint to the head feathers but it's not consistant so size is the only determining factor.   :dunno:
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: 270Shooter on April 24, 2011, 09:11:43 AM
I would guess that they are lessers. Hard to say unless I was holding one though.
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: greenhead_killer on April 24, 2011, 09:44:27 AM
they are lessers. they about the same size as a shoveler. very pretty birds they both are. and great pics bone!! might have to get a print of that one from you
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: sakoshooter on April 24, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
Drake Shoveler
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Crispy on April 24, 2011, 09:38:49 PM
For those of you that are interested, I found this to be really helpful on the greater vs lesser scaup ID  :)

http://www.utahbirds.org/featarts/Scaup.htm (http://www.utahbirds.org/featarts/Scaup.htm)
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Special T on April 24, 2011, 09:49:16 PM
Crispy, nice side by side. With that said i would say greater... anyone with me?
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Crispy on April 25, 2011, 12:09:13 AM
Crispy, nice side by side. With that said i would say greater... anyone with me?

Pics weren't taken by me, I just stumbled across them when I was googling so I can't take credit for the shots (agreed, they are nice).

I was actually thinking lessers just based on the dark heads and the more pronounced mottled black/white on the back. I don't know enough about their relative size to speak to that, though. I've only bagged three ever.
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: TheSkyBuster on April 25, 2011, 12:48:45 AM
I've been trying to save a picture of each species, Here is a Greater I shot this Year,  for reference I'm 5'10" 205 dog was about 90lbs in this picture, I only knew it was a greater because I shot a couple lessers the same day and he was bigger.

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Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: jordano on April 26, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
Yep! Northern Shoveler aka Spoony! and the flying ones are Lesser Scaup aka Bluebills. Lesser Scaup have a purple tint to their head feathers while Greater Scaup have a green tint to their head feathers
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: teal101 on April 27, 2011, 10:31:28 AM
Those are lesser scaup.  The way to tell the apart is in their wings.  The deep white speculum will extend further out towards the wing tip in a greater than in a lesser.  While both have white on most of the wing, the greaters is deeper.

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Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Special T on April 27, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
Very cool.. I change my answer!  :chuckle: I like the wing compariso photo thanks
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: teal101 on April 28, 2011, 12:35:04 PM
Telling them apart by head color is quite difficult.  Both lessers and greaters have a green or purple tint to their head, just depends on the angle of the light.  Same thing with a mallard, held in certain light it turns purple.  The lessers generally appear darker over much of the light spectrum than a greater does, in my personal experience.

Bill size is another give away.  Greaters have a much broader bill than the the lessers.

Body size is an OK estimator.  A young greater will be the same size as a lesser, and I've shot some hog lessers that could easily be mistaken for a greater.  Generally greaters are larger, who woulda thunk it :chuckle:

One of my favorite birds to pursue :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Coho on April 28, 2011, 02:36:33 PM
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 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: jordano on April 28, 2011, 04:19:32 PM
well said Teal101! long time no talk!

nice pic there Coho!  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: Special T on April 28, 2011, 08:03:18 PM
very cool pic coho.. I've been on a falconry hunt and they are sweet! we only hunted rabbits tho...
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: teal101 on April 29, 2011, 09:30:12 AM
well said Teal101! long time no talk!

nice pic there Coho!  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Yeah it has.  My season was all of two hunts, was just too busy with other things and barely made it out :'(  Gearing up for fishing though!
Title: Re: need hep with ID
Post by: jordano on April 29, 2011, 11:24:05 AM
well said Teal101! long time no talk!

nice pic there Coho!  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Yeah it has.  My season was all of two hunts, was just too busy with other things and barely made it out :'(  Gearing up for fishing though!

we'll have to change that next year and meet up for some hunts! you bet! I have done a pretty good amount of trout fishing already but really looking forward to school getting out!
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