Post by: westside Elkhunter on April 30, 2011, 10:03:13 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on April 30, 2011, 10:17:32 AM
Anyone looking for a good set of Toyo 37x12.50x18's Im listing them now on CL for $400 or trade. Not too bad of a deal being that they are almost $550 each to go buy new.
MS
Post by: combs338 on April 30, 2011, 10:46:42 AM
Post by: BallisticsNut on April 30, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
I ran 37x12.5x17 Toyo Open Country Mt's on my 2001 F-350 diesel and i got 55,000 on one set and i had 40,000 plus on the other set when i traded the truck in. I have 35x12.5x18 open country Mt's on my new truck and they seem to be wearing well. I recommend getting any tire you buy siped they seem to last longer when siped in my opinion. If you are siping a set of Mt's they recommend that you only sipe the inside treads. That's my :twocents:
I too love the Toyo MTs. About syping though, my son works at a local dealership and he tells me that syping does not increase decrease tire wear or traction in a measureable amount. On ice, syping is the only benefit that I am aware of.
Post by: 7mag. on April 30, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
I ran 37x12.5x17 Toyo Open Country Mt's on my 2001 F-350 diesel and i got 55,000 on one set and i had 40,000 plus on the other set when i traded the truck in. I have 35x12.5x18 open country Mt's on my new truck and they seem to be wearing well. I recommend getting any tire you buy siped they seem to last longer when siped in my opinion. If you are siping a set of Mt's they recommend that you only sipe the inside treads. That's my :twocents:
I too love the Toyo MTs. About syping though, my son works at a local dealership and he tells me that syping does not increase decrease tire wear or traction in a measureable amount. On ice, syping is the only benefit that I am aware of.
Also, if you use your truck to hunt, the gravel roads will eat a syped tire pretty quickly. I learned that the hard way.
Post by: Bluemoon on April 30, 2011, 11:17:11 AM
Post by: FC on April 30, 2011, 11:19:12 AM
Also, if you use your truck to hunt, the gravel roads will eat a syped tire pretty quickly. I learned that the hard way.
Have you ever tried a factory siped tire?
Post by: 7mag. on April 30, 2011, 11:21:51 AM
Also, if you use your truck to hunt, the gravel roads will eat a syped tire pretty quickly. I learned that the hard way.
Have you ever tried a factory siped tire?
No, syped at the dealer. Must be a difference?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 30, 2011, 04:39:24 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on April 30, 2011, 04:46:18 PM
MS
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 30, 2011, 04:51:03 PM
Yeah mine sucked in the snow too, but I wouldn't complain getting 60,000 out of a mud terrain tire on a full size truck. If guys are really concerned about getting the best ride and longest wear, buy AT's. Whenever you put a mud terrain on any vehicle, you typically will pay more and not get the best ride and wear. More of an aesthetic thing anyway.
MS
No kidding. I bought Hankooks this time.
Post by: norsepeak on April 30, 2011, 06:34:48 PM
Post by: predatorpro on April 30, 2011, 11:02:57 PM
Post by: Special T on April 30, 2011, 11:47:01 PM
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Post by: CementFinisher on May 01, 2011, 01:24:13 AM
Post by: Armadillo on May 01, 2011, 07:38:11 AM
BF Goodrich A/T no questions asked
:yeah: nuff said
If you get into the mud or snow or sand simply air the tires down and your good to go.. then once you're back on pavement air them back up and enjoy the smooth ride home. I found that the times where a mud tire are useful only account for maybe (at the most) 5% of my total driving. Id rather use a BFG A/T for the other 95% of the rough gravel roads and pavement I'll be on.
Post by: swanny on May 01, 2011, 07:44:08 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 01, 2011, 07:49:50 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on May 01, 2011, 08:23:12 AM
I disagree with all of you that say the Toyo MT is no good in snow. I run 37'S and have always been thrilled with these tires in the snow, mud, rock, whatever.. Best tires I :twocents:have ever owned and will not buy anything else. I do not have a Diesel, but the people I do know that have them have alot of trouble with the weight of the engine. Good friend has a 07 Dodge Diesel with Toyo 37'S and that piece of chit cant even back out of camp without being in 4 LOW.....
That's why you have good luck in the snow.... Your rig prob doesn't come close to weighing 7500lbs and doesn't have 750+ foot pounds of torque :chuckle:
The best snow tire/truck application I ever had was my 98 Toyota Tacoma, 2.7ltr, 33" Toyo AT's syped. That truck was like Rudy Galindo on snow and ice :chuckle: I can't believe I used that comparison...
MS
Post by: Special T on May 01, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 01, 2011, 09:58:53 AM
Post by: TheSkyBuster on May 01, 2011, 10:29:53 AM
as the only TIA certified guy on here lol
Hey.... I resemble that remark. I've been TIA certrified since it was called ITRA
I'm running Toyo HT's on a stock chevy (LT265-75R16/8 ) and I have yet to get into a situation that I feel AT's or MT's would have made much difference. In the snow I put my chains on. :chuckle: and my rig rides nice on the Highway. 65,000 miles and counting :twocents:
Post by: The Weazle on May 01, 2011, 12:28:23 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 01, 2011, 04:51:57 PM
as the only TIA certified guy on here lol
I've been TIA certrified since it was called ITRA
Wow so now theres 3 of us. :beer for my schwabies: :chuckle:
Post by: throttlejocky20 on May 01, 2011, 05:03:04 PM
Post by: predatorpro on May 01, 2011, 05:57:08 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 01, 2011, 07:24:01 PM
Post by: Special T on May 02, 2011, 07:12:29 AM
Post by: predatorpro on May 02, 2011, 07:58:59 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on May 02, 2011, 08:38:12 AM
another big problem with the toyo m/t is almost everyone over inflates them, they are made to run at low air pressures, alot of people with diesels run them at like 60 or 70 psi which is too high for them, and you have to rotate them every 3000 miles not every 15000The guys at our Schwaab said that guys in our area never make the warranty mileage on tires. I got 22k on Toyo M/T's and 24k on Open Country A/T's with my 1 ton Dodge. Not overly impressed to say the least. However, it's hard to haul a load of firewood with your tires at 50 psi without looking like they're flat. At 70 psi, they at least appear to be a bit better with 4000# on there along with a 7500# truck. The stock tires at 90 psi looked much better, but had no resistance to flats. At least with the Toyo's I don't get flat tires. With the Cooper Discoverer's I had 5 flats in 4 months, and I took them back for a refund. Thinking about getting the M-55's to try, but at $1500 for only 4 tires they'd better be damn impressive!
Post by: spookgus on May 02, 2011, 09:12:47 AM
Post by: Special T on May 02, 2011, 09:36:15 AM
Post by: JLS on May 02, 2011, 10:06:53 AM
I would say for most people in your situation Some kind of AT would be best, and then buy a set of link Chains to throw in the truck. Most people want the aggressive look on their rig, and if you don't put a lot of miles on it you'll be ok. A/T always wear better than MT. The larger the gap between the lugs the more prone to wear it is. Some M/T are better than others. Everyone that i know that loves the Toyo MT have light rigs, many with 1 tons have poor success. :twocents:
The M/T style tires also have greater rolling resistance because of the deep, wide lugs. Therefore, your fuel economy suffers. Also, without siping them the M/T tires will not be nearly as good on ice and packed snow. They look cool, but for practicality the A/T tires will serve much better. I can't afford the cool looks, so I go with A/T and a 50k treadwear warranty. I could care less if they make it to 50k because that'll be pro rated off of my next set.
Post by: MtnMuley on May 02, 2011, 11:14:21 AM
Post by: swanny on May 02, 2011, 11:38:23 AM
I have had the Goodyear Wrangler AT/MT combo tire that they make. I've been super impressed with it in mud and snow, they have gone every where I have needed them too. I was able to get them for $185 a piece too by shopping around on the internet and getting a price match from Discount Tire. The only downside I have found is they do throw rocks at your wheel wells on gravel roads.
Here's the link to what I have...I really like them and certainly recommend them.
http://www.goodyeartires.com/tire/wrangler-duratrac/ (http://www.goodyeartires.com/tire/wrangler-duratrac/)
Post by: teanawayslayer on May 02, 2011, 11:38:58 AM
Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents: I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.:yeah:
Post by: whacker1 on May 02, 2011, 11:58:59 AM
I was fairly impressed with the Pro-Comp Mud Terrains that I ran through my last set. They were not on a diesel, but a couple of friends have run the Pro Comp x-treme AT on their Diesel's and gotten good wear. I got 38k on my MT's and took them off with at least another 5000 miles left on them. 1 tire was a little worse off from where I through the truck out of alignment for 600 miles.
This time I went with the Fierce Tires - Fierce Attitude MT by Goodyear. I have 10,000 miles on them so far and they seem to be wearing quite well. 50% of the cost of Toyo Mt in the size I bought. I should get 40k miles or better based on the way they have warn so far. I went with a narrower tire to improve gas mileage and reduce cost of the tire. 235/ 85 / 16 in a 10 ply tire. 32 x 9.5 on an F150.
Post by: Rick on May 02, 2011, 12:54:20 PM
Discount tire will special order ANY tire you want,and sell them to you for about 30% less than LS will.
Post by: Rick on May 02, 2011, 12:55:38 PM
Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents: I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.
The problem with the M55s is the very limited selection of sizes they come in. They are an outstanding tire though.
Post by: MtnMuley on May 02, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
\Toyo M55's are the best overall all-around tire for all year if you spend a lot of time in the hills. :twocents: I don't support Les Schwab, but if I did, that'd be all I ever bought for every rig.
The problem with the M55s is the very limited selection of sizes they come in. They are an outstanding tire though.
You're exactly right. They seem to be getting even more limited also.
Post by: BallisticsNut on May 02, 2011, 03:55:56 PM
You guys do realize that you can buy Toyos at stores other than Les Schwab.
Discount tire will special order ANY tire you want,and sell them to you for about 30% less than LS will.
Check out Tire Rack. http://www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com)
I almost picked up my tires and rims there, they were cheaper then Les Schwab even with shipping and with new sensors installed. The tires come, mounted and balanced to your door. All you have to do is put them on. The only reason I didnt get them there was because the rims I wanted where literally on a slow boat from China. They could only find three rims in stock anywhere in the US, so I waited about two weeks then cancelled my order and went to see my old friend Les.
Post by: C-Money on May 02, 2011, 04:03:09 PM
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Post by: huntnfmly on May 07, 2011, 12:01:31 AM
Post by: netcoyote on May 07, 2011, 07:10:34 AM
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-selector/name/all-terrain-t-a-ko-tires (http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-selector/name/all-terrain-t-a-ko-tires)
Got em now on '98 Dodge Ram Diesel, 2004 Dakota and a '97 Nissan, all 4x4s. Usually get around 70k life out of them and they are great in snow...less so in mud.
Only remember 1 flat in all those years on 4 different trucks, all of 'em driven on mountain roads and one driven hauling horse trailer regularly.
Usually get mine at Discount Tire...they are not offered at LS as far as I know.
Post by: gonehuntin68 on May 07, 2011, 10:12:13 AM