Post by: Gutpile on May 01, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
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Post by: wsucowboy on May 02, 2011, 10:41:11 AM
Post by: whacker1 on May 02, 2011, 10:45:52 AM
Cool, but disturbing find.
Post by: bearpaw on May 02, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
Post by: mulehunter on May 02, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
COYOTES. :bfg:
Mulehunter. ;)
Post by: 3nails on May 02, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
When you find tracks, make sure you look for hair, scat, etc in the near by areas, because that is what it takes for the biologists to confirm actual activity - D.N.A. WDFW will then be able to tell if it is a hybrid, one they have already collared, or one that hasn't been collared yet.Do NOT touch or disturb wolf scat! :bdid: These wolves they brought down from northern Canada have Hydatid disease. It is transfered to humans through the worm eggs in their scat. Google it.
Cool, but disturbing find.
Post by: bearpaw on May 03, 2011, 04:28:21 AM
When you find tracks, make sure you look for hair, scat, etc in the near by areas, because that is what it takes for the biologists to confirm actual activity - D.N.A. WDFW will then be able to tell if it is a hybrid, one they have already collared, or one that hasn't been collared yet.Do NOT touch or disturb wolf scat! :bdid: These wolves they brought down from northern Canada have Hydatid disease. It is transfered to humans through the worm eggs in their scat. Google it.
Cool, but disturbing find.
This is very true, 62% to 63% of wolves tested from Idaho and Montana respectively tested positive for Echinococcus Granulosus, a worm whos definitive host is wolves, check out this page for details of what can happen to you from handling wolf scat: http://graywolfnews.com/diseases.html (http://graywolfnews.com/diseases.html)
Cystic echinococcosis - Kist hidatik (subtitle in English) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foAaFti_13U#)
Hydatid cyst lady reading hospital peshawar pakistan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TwHi1D2G2M#)
Post by: stickbuck on May 06, 2011, 09:11:23 AM
OLYMPIA - Although wolves have been removed from federal Endangered Species Act (ESA) protection in the eastern third of Washington state, they remain protected as a state endangered species throughout Washington.
Under Congressional direction that prevents any judicial review, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) has removed the northern Rocky Mountain population of gray wolves from federal endangered status. The action affects wolves in Montana, Idaho, the eastern third of Oregon and Washington and a small area of north central Utah.
The federal de-listing covers eastern Washington east of State Route 97 from the Canadian border to Highway 17, east of Highway 17 to State Route 395, and east of State Route 395 to the Oregon border. That federal de-listing boundary was based on the anticipated dispersal of wolves from recovered populations in the other states.
Wolves are still state-listed as endangered in Washington because their numbers are low and they do not inhabit most of their historic range, according to Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) biologists. The state population is estimated at two dozen wolves, with only a couple of successful breeding pairs or packs with pups documented to date.
Wolves remain federally listed as an endangered species in the western two-thirds of the state.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 06, 2011, 09:14:13 AM
Post by: Sporting_Man on May 06, 2011, 09:26:28 AM
That is the situation that we have now with this idiotic wolf deal!
Post by: Jingles on May 14, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
Post by: mebco09 on May 15, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
The federal de-listing covers eastern Washington east of State Route 97 from the Canadian border to Highway 17, east of Highway 17 to State Route 395, and east of State Route 395 to the Oregon border. That federal de-listing boundary was based on the anticipated dispersal of wolves from recovered populations in the other states.
Wolves remain federally listed as an endangered species in the western two-thirds of the state.
I love the way they define the areas of delisting, like the wolves are going to stop moving west at Hwy 97. They are going to be in Bellevue before you know it.
Post by: Hockdo7 on May 22, 2011, 09:06:56 PM
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Post by: Guy on June 01, 2011, 05:28:56 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 01, 2011, 05:49:40 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on June 07, 2011, 09:33:50 AM
Post by: Gutpile on June 13, 2011, 01:11:55 PM
When you find the tracks look carefully around for Scat, Hair and animals. If armed do your fellow hunters a BIG favor cover all 3 with copious amounts of dirt
LOL. :tup:
Post by: CedarPants on June 21, 2011, 04:55:05 PM
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Post by: Elkslayer on July 01, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
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Post by: deaner on December 24, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
Post by: Elkslayer on December 26, 2012, 02:05:51 PM
during 2011 mod firearm elk season i found what had to be wolf scat in huckleberry unit up above coyote canyon. either it was wolf, or the worlds largest coyote took the worlds largest dump. but after seeing countless piles of coyote scat...... i really doubt thats it
Deaner what you saw was definately wolf scat. They are all over that area and that is where the Huckleberry pack has been confirmed.
Post by: deaner on December 26, 2012, 02:22:25 PM
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Post by: skywalker253 on December 27, 2012, 10:42:41 PM
Post by: deaner on December 27, 2012, 10:55:09 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 28, 2012, 10:02:37 PM
??? you think its suspicious that the wolves are where the most available food is for them?? seems quite logical to me. i would think something was off if i saw them in areas with low ungulate densities personally
No that is not what I said. I said it is "IRONIC" and "FUNNY" that all these wolves show up in GMUs where their are a heavily populated with deer and elk. I agree that common logic would place them, where food is.
Just so happens that the premier GMUs, which are known to be great deer and elk areas are now hosting wolves. Example- Toutle- This is a draw only GMU, which the game department has been under pressure from Weyhauser to thin the herds. Notice the special tag quantities for hunters has more than doubled. The game department even came out and said that they wanted to thin the herd tremendously by the end of the 2014 season, at the request of Weyhauser. Now wolves are showing up, all the way from Idaho and Canada. So we are suppose to beleive that these wolves passed up all these other GMUs etc to head to the Toutle to surrvive. Then when someone reports a sighting the game department claims they are hybrids. They have done this in other GMUs and later came out and confirmed they are true wolf packs and claim they traveled from long distances to get there on their own. Its all BS. They are planting them; plain and simple.
Post by: JLS on December 28, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
They are planting them; plain and simple.
:tinfoil:
I bet Phil Anderson was the 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll....
Post by: Jburke on December 30, 2012, 11:55:46 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 31, 2012, 01:04:13 AM
I think it really doesn't make a difference how they got where they are. They are there and we as hunters can't just pack them up and ship them where we want them. The only thing we can do is help to manage them when that time comes. complain all you want, but they aren't going anywhere. :twocents:
It does make a difference when it is obvious the game department is trying to pull the wool over our eyes to plant wolves. Then we are suppose to turn around and TRUST them. Nobody is complaining. All I was doing was making the point that it is ironic and funny that these wolves keep showing up in top ranked GMUs across the state. Seems fishy. Now move on WOLF LOVING TROLL!!!
Post by: Jburke on December 31, 2012, 11:16:00 AM
Post by: deaner on December 31, 2012, 11:18:49 AM
Post by: cougarbart on January 01, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
Post by: skywalker253 on January 01, 2013, 03:13:29 PM
Here is the article regarding the wolf you referrenced, which traveled from Oregon to California.
Post by: skywalker253 on January 01, 2013, 03:25:49 PM
ok i doubt very much they are planting them since there is no need to! if you followed the collared wolf from oregon that went all the way to northern california and then back you need to realize these wolves can travel across the whole state of washington in a few weeks! What are they looking for? mates and food and those gmu with the most game are going to attract and hold wolves! You have to realize they are traveling east from idaho, south from british columbia and also some north from areas of oregon! And with packs already in washington the offspring from those packs are going to expand and fast rates so they are expanding!
I followed the wolf from Oregon story. I'm not a dummy. I realize they travel long distances. You are using 1 specific wolf to try and justify your argument. That is a rare story. I am speaking about a WOLF PACK. Not a lone wolf oustated out of his own pack. Example- The Look Out Pack in Twisp. Your telling me that 23 plus wolves traveled down from Canada or over from Idaho as a pack looking for mates, food, etc. My point is there is plenty of food sources, mates, etc. on the way there. IMO- Some...NOT ALL of the wolves have been reintroduced into Wa by the game department or some sort of group they work with on their behalf. Just an opinion, which is the same as many others on this site. No need for you to get all butt hurt and use !!!!!!!!!!!! poiints at the end of every sentence to try and make your point. Get rid of the !!!!!!!!!!!! points and try using periods and comas, so we can better understand your posts.
Post by: skywalker253 on January 01, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
if you dont think its suspicious that wolves are found where the most food is youre a wolf loving troll? you need to get a grip man.
Never said that. Go back and read. And your profile picture isn't helping you! NERD! And who says "get a grip man." Bruce Willis in Diehard- LOL
Post by: grundy53 on January 01, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
Post by: deaner on January 01, 2013, 03:34:03 PM
Post by: JLS on January 01, 2013, 03:34:52 PM
Skywalker... you're reallystarting to makemaking yourself look bad.
Fixed it for ya!
Post by: skywalker253 on January 01, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Skywalker... you're really starting to make yourself look bad.
Don't care. We don't know eachother, nor do I associate with anyone on this site. Could careless...
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 01, 2013, 03:59:44 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 01, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Then why are you on here?Skywalker... you're really starting to make yourself look bad.
Don't care. We don't know eachother, nor do I associate with anyone on this site. Could careless...
Post by: skywalker253 on January 01, 2013, 04:03:25 PM
dude you just called me nerd.... you have a star wars handle. and at least im not embarrassed to put up a pic of myself....... yeah thats your que to show us how totally bad@$$ and supremely cool you are
Just throwing mud back at you, as you were throwing it on me. So were even, but who cares. Not me, and probably not you either. And my handle is not from the Star Wars movie. It is from Kenny "Skywalker" Walker the NBA basketball player, who was one of the greatest dunkers of alltime. Go watch the 89' dunk contest, which he won. He played for the NY Knicks. My cousin is married to him.
Post by: skywalker253 on January 01, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
Then why are you on here?Skywalker... you're really starting to make yourself look bad.
Don't care. We don't know eachother, nor do I associate with anyone on this site. Could careless...
To look at pictures and give an opinion like everyone else. Doesn't mean I am a hermit because we differ in opinion and I say I don't care if people agree with mine or not. Their is always someone who will disagree. Thats cool by me. Again, I could careless.
Post by: Jingles on January 01, 2013, 04:10:50 PM
The federal de-listing covers eastern Washington east of State Route 97 from the Canadian border to Highway 17, east of Highway 17 to State Route 395, and east of State Route 395 to the Oregon border. That federal de-listing boundary was based on the anticipated dispersal of wolves from recovered populations in the other states.
Wolves remain federally listed as an endangered species in the western two-thirds of the state.
I love the way they define the areas of delisting, like the wolves are going to stop moving west at Hwy 97. They are going to be in Bellevue before you know it.
Man that would be absolutely fan f***ing tastic then the wolf lovers would be belly aching about their foo foo dogs and cats missing
Post by: villageidiot on January 01, 2013, 08:24:58 PM
NEVER ARGUE WITH STUPID PEOPLE, THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. Mark Twain
Post by: jasnt on January 11, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
When you find the tracks look carefully around for Scat, Hair and animals. If armed do your fellow hunters a BIG favor cover all 3 with copious amounts of dirt
+1 :tup: