Wolf Tracks, Huckleberry Range

[Elkslayer]

during 2011 mod firearm elk season i found what had to be wolf scat in huckleberry unit up above coyote canyon.  either it was wolf, or the worlds largest coyote took the worlds largest dump.  but after seeing countless piles of coyote scat......  i really doubt thats it

Deaner what you saw was definately wolf scat. They are all over that area and that is where the Huckleberry pack has been confirmed.

[deaner]

yeah.  tried to imagine a coyote capable of that pile but just couldnt see it haha.  how are the moose / deer / etc. doing down there?  havent been to that spot in a little over a year

[Elkslayer]

Moose numbers are way down in that area, I found 3 different carcass's up there in October from moose and 2 from deer. Found fresh wolf tracks in Owl Creek from that morning right in the middle of a moose pit. A buddy of mine also saw a bull moose that day that apppeared to be injured on the back end, "open sores" possibly from a wolf attack.

[deaner]

thats a shame.  saw a really nice bull up there last year.  just stood there maybe 40 yards from him doing my no doubt terrible impression of moose noises.  he just stood there eating and looking at me the way i look at a yapping snarling chihuaua.

[skywalker253]

What I think is ironic about the wolves in Washington; it seems a little funny that all these wolf packs are showing up in GMUs, which are known to have large populations of deer and elk. I understand that wolves are going to follow their food source, but IMO the game department is moving them around into GMUs, which host plenty of animals to be sure they are reintroduced successfully into Washington. I'm sure plenty have moved in from Canada and Idaho, etc. I call BS that the game department is not planting these things. This is a political move to hang their hat on. They are using wolves to eventually generate money through license and tag sales. IMO

[deaner]

   you think its suspicious that the wolves are where the most available food is for them??   seems quite logical to me.  i would think something was off if i saw them in areas with low ungulate densities personally

[skywalker253]

   you think its suspicious that the wolves are where the most available food is for them??   seems quite logical to me.  i would think something was off if i saw them in areas with low ungulate densities personally

No that is not what I said. I said it is "IRONIC" and "FUNNY" that all these wolves show up in GMUs where their are a heavily populated with deer and elk. I agree that common logic would place them, where food is.

Just so happens that the premier GMUs, which are known to be great deer and elk areas are now hosting wolves. Example- Toutle- This is a draw only GMU, which the game department has been under pressure from Weyhauser to thin the herds. Notice the special tag quantities for hunters has more than doubled. The game department even came out and said that they wanted to thin the herd tremendously by the end of the 2014 season, at the request of Weyhauser. Now wolves are showing up, all the way from Idaho and Canada. So we are suppose to beleive that these wolves passed up all these other GMUs etc to head to the Toutle to surrvive. Then when someone reports a sighting the game department claims they are hybrids. They have done this in other GMUs and later came out and confirmed they are true wolf packs and claim they traveled from long distances to get there on their own. Its all BS. They are planting them; plain and simple.

[JLS]

  They are planting them; plain and simple.

I bet Phil Anderson was the 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll....

[Jburke]

I think it really doesn't make a difference how they got where they are.  They are there and we as hunters can't just pack them up and ship them where we want them.  The only thing we can do is help to manage them when that time comes.  complain all you want, but they aren't going anywhere.   

[skywalker253]

I think it really doesn't make a difference how they got where they are.  They are there and we as hunters can't just pack them up and ship them where we want them.  The only thing we can do is help to manage them when that time comes.  complain all you want, but they aren't going anywhere.   

It does make a difference when it is obvious the game department is trying to pull the wool over our eyes to plant wolves. Then we are suppose to turn around and TRUST them. Nobody is complaining. All I was doing was making the point that it is ironic and funny that these wolves keep showing up in top ranked GMUs across the state. Seems fishy. Now move on WOLF LOVING TROLL!!!

[Jburke]

Well if you can't understand why the best hunting areas in the state have wolves then you really aren't thinking with your head.  Wolves have been around for years, longer than most people realize.  The state planting them would only hurt license sales. The feds have more of a say on this than the state does anyways.  If you want to complain to someone try starting there.   

[deaner]

if you dont think its suspicious that wolves are found where the most food is youre a wolf loving troll?  you need to get a grip man.

[cougarbart]

ok i doubt very much they are planting them since there is no need to!  if you followed the collared wolf from oregon that went all the way to northern california and then back you need to realize these wolves can travel across the whole state of washington in a few weeks!  What are they looking for? mates and food and those gmu with the most game are going to attract and hold wolves! You have to realize they are traveling east from idaho, south from british columbia and also some north from areas of oregon! And with packs already in washington the offspring from those packs are going to expand and fast rates so they are expanding!

[skywalker253]

http://www.venturacountytrails.org/WP/2012/03/03/wandering-gray-wolf-leaves-california-returns-to-oregon/

Here is the article regarding the wolf you referrenced, which traveled from Oregon to California.

[skywalker253]

ok i doubt very much they are planting them since there is no need to!  if you followed the collared wolf from oregon that went all the way to northern california and then back you need to realize these wolves can travel across the whole state of washington in a few weeks!  What are they looking for? mates and food and those gmu with the most game are going to attract and hold wolves! You have to realize they are traveling east from idaho, south from british columbia and also some north from areas of oregon! And with packs already in washington the offspring from those packs are going to expand and fast rates so they are expanding!

I followed the wolf from Oregon story. I'm not a dummy. I realize they travel long distances. You are using 1 specific wolf to try and justify your argument. That is a rare story. I am speaking about a WOLF PACK. Not a lone wolf oustated out of his own pack. Example- The Look Out Pack in Twisp. Your telling me that 23 plus wolves traveled down from Canada or over from Idaho as a pack looking for mates, food, etc. My point is there is plenty of food sources, mates, etc. on the way there. IMO- Some...NOT ALL of the wolves have been reintroduced into Wa by the game department or some sort of group they work with on their behalf. Just an opinion, which is the same as many others on this site. No need for you to get all butt hurt and use !!!!!!!!!!!! poiints at the end of every sentence to try and make your point. Get rid of the !!!!!!!!!!!! points and try using periods and comas, so we can better understand your posts.