Post by: dscubame on May 29, 2011, 09:03:50 PM
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 29, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
Would you say this is for baiting bear?Are you a tribal member ?
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Post by: fishcrazy on May 30, 2011, 11:34:51 AM
Kris
Post by: machine on May 30, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 30, 2011, 12:35:12 PM
Post by: cohoho on May 30, 2011, 02:24:32 PM
I would just leave it alone and forget about it, if someone is baiting a bear so what. That's just my opinion, i think its a stupid law that doesn't make anysense. People that bait generally get the big boars and don't usually end up shooting sows with cubs by mistake. I would just walk away.....
A "STUPID LAW" doesn't make it right that someone is baiting here in Washington. Alot of stupid laws out there, doesn't make choosing which one to follow a personal choice......... I would suggest a call to the timber company, maybe they have permits, etc to do it. If so - then that is that. If not - report it..
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 30, 2011, 03:23:28 PM
Man to bad the people of Washington did not have brains to figure that one out .. Baiting definately safes the younger animals .. gives the hunter a chance to see what he is shooting exspecially for the ones who do not see many bear .. most people see a bear and think they saw the biggest bear alive when most of them are no bigger than 200 lbs...why cant they think like us ? :bash: :bash:I would just leave it alone and forget about it, if someone is baiting a bear so what. That's just my opinion, i think its a stupid law that doesn't make anysense. People that bait generally get the big boars and don't usually end up shooting sows with cubs by mistake. I would just walk away.....
A "STUPID LAW" doesn't make it right that someone is baiting here in Washington. Alot of stupid laws out there, doesn't make choosing which one to follow a personal choice......... I would suggest a call to the timber company, maybe they have permits, etc to do it. If so - then that is that. If not - report it..
Post by: Wenatcheejay on May 30, 2011, 04:05:40 PM
BTW, I did not think it was illegal to feed bears only to hunt them with bait. There are some of people who put out dogfood in Longview but don't hunt. Personally, I can't express how much the anti predator hunting laws in this State make me throw up my hands. ( I need to take up gardening.)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 30, 2011, 04:48:10 PM
Now that you have posted this on H-W the only thing for the original poster to do is to notify WDFW about it and give them all the information that you know. You also need to show them exactly where you found it. That is the only lawful thing to do.
BTW, I did not think it was illegal to feed bears only to hunt them with bait. There are some of people who put out dogfood in Longview but don't hunt. Personally, I can't express how much the anti predator hunting laws in this State make me throw up my hands. ( I need to take up gardening.)
That is correct. You can feed them, but cannot hunt them with bait or even in a area close to the bait.
Post by: KFhunter on May 30, 2011, 05:35:01 PM
good luck 'splainin that one.
other than that, ya the law needs changed.
hunting over bait is a good way to get bear, good way to choose the bear you want and you work for it.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 30, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
Goly gee ward- wern't you a little hard on the beve tonight??? com'n man really, do you have to be such a anti hunter to just say "if it's against the law then turn them in. I bet you've never baited a bear in your life, you probably never spent the time, money and hours it takes to do it. Just because you have never done it, probably voted against it and don't have a clue doesn't mean turning the guy in is the right thing to do. You would probably turn in someone shooting a wolf too I would imagine? Just my 2 cents.I would just leave it alone and forget about it, if someone is baiting a bear so what. That's just my opinion, i think its a stupid law that doesn't make anysense. People that bait generally get the big boars and don't usually end up shooting sows with cubs by mistake. I would just walk away.....
A "STUPID LAW" doesn't make it right that someone is baiting here in Washington. Alot of stupid laws out there, doesn't make choosing which one to follow a personal choice......... I would suggest a call to the timber company, maybe they have permits, etc to do it. If so - then that is that. If not - report it..
Post by: elkaholic on May 30, 2011, 06:27:56 PM
Sounds like a guy just wanting to get some cool photos and see whats out there during this time of year....
Could be a poacher? But as said earlier alot of time , money and work go in thats too much for your average poacher.
maybe its a bait site for Bigfoot??? :yike:
Post by: Webfoot on May 30, 2011, 06:32:29 PM
Timber companies put these out in the spring to feed bears. It keeps them from peeling trees to get the cambium layer.
John
Post by: rebal69972 on May 30, 2011, 06:44:42 PM
Now that you have posted this on H-W the only thing for the original poster to do is to notify WDFW about it and give them all the information that you know. You also need to show them exactly where you found it. That is the only lawful thing to do.
BTW, I did not think it was illegal to feed bears only to hunt them with bait. There are some of people who put out dogfood in Longview but don't hunt. Personally, I can't express how much the anti predator hunting laws in this State make me throw up my hands. ( I need to take up gardening.)
That is correct. You can feed them, but cannot hunt them with bait or even in a area close to the bait.
is it legal to feed them for pictures as long as you dont hunt where you feed them? the laws really confuse me in this state
Post by: Hunterman on May 30, 2011, 07:47:16 PM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on May 30, 2011, 08:03:17 PM
.. most people see a bear and think they saw the biggest bear alive when most of them are no bigger than 200 lbs...why cant they think like us ? :bash: :bash:
Quite a few Bears will go all there lives and never reach 200lbs.
Post by: Winchester670 on May 30, 2011, 08:06:31 PM
Now, now folks come on..Those are just hunting blinds for midgets.. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Hunterman(Tony)
Thats exactly what i said :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on May 30, 2011, 08:08:24 PM
Now, now folks come on..Those are just hunting blinds for midgets.. :chuckle: :chuckle:Now that's funney right there!
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: cohoho on May 30, 2011, 08:18:07 PM
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Wow!!! I won't go in to much specifics since obviously you can't read or follow a posting that your commenting upon. If you did you would have seen the picture of a previous station I had in AK. I posted the picture to show what a well utilized station looks like, real similar to the one posted in the beginning of this thread. I baited in AK for close to eight years, we had two stations that produced alot of bears. We'd put out close to 1000lbs of food per station. I know how much work they are and how much they cost to maintain, but that doesn't make it right, if it a person is using it to harvest a bear illegally. I am not going to debate ethics but obviously you have no concern for the established rules and regulations of the state. And lastly, there is spell check on the bottom right of each posting screen... :chuckle:
Post by: True Sportsman on May 30, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
Was the original feeder found on public or private land? If its on public land, someone is cheating... If its on private land (timber co ground) don't worry about it.
This is just my opinion, but that looks like some idiots feeder that is placed there illegally!
Post by: Lowedog on May 30, 2011, 09:11:56 PM
Goly gee ward- wern't you a little hard on the beve tonight??? com'n man really, do you have to be such a anti hunter to just say "if it's against the law then turn them in. I bet you've never baited a bear in your life, you probably never spent the time, money and hours it takes to do it. Just because you have never done it, probably voted against it and don't have a clue doesn't mean turning the guy in is the right thing to do. You would probably turn in someone shooting a wolf too I would imagine? Just my 2 cents.I would just leave it alone and forget about it, if someone is baiting a bear so what. That's just my opinion, i think its a stupid law that doesn't make anysense. People that bait generally get the big boars and don't usually end up shooting sows with cubs by mistake. I would just walk away.....
A "STUPID LAW" doesn't make it right that someone is baiting here in Washington. Alot of stupid laws out there, doesn't make choosing which one to follow a personal choice......... I would suggest a call to the timber company, maybe they have permits, etc to do it. If so - then that is that. If not - report it..
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Wouldn't happen to be your barrel would it trophyhunt? :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on May 30, 2011, 09:24:48 PM
Post by: coxral on May 30, 2011, 09:34:44 PM
Post by: cohoho on May 30, 2011, 10:28:55 PM
Post by: jackelope on May 30, 2011, 10:38:13 PM
I gave up baiting when It became illegal, that was a sad deal. Had a lot of fun doing it, I never did it long enough to say I'm any expert like cohoho. But in the short time I did do it I realized that it was the most humane, efficient way to take bear and if that is illegal than there is something very wrong with the system. Cohoho, if the treehuggers got a law passed that said only people with special rights could hunt and you lost your leagal right to feed your family off the land would you still be the goodie too shoe that your representing? I understand that most game laws have to be followed, I'm all for most of them. But the bear baiting was passed by the treehuggers not people that have any sort of clue. No I don't bait no more but do I give a rat's a s s if someone does, he ll no.
Enough of the pissing match here, gang.
p.s. Hunting in this state is considered a priviledge, not a right. Unfortunately Washington is not a "right to hunt" state.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 31, 2011, 06:36:28 AM
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Post by: sakoshooter on May 31, 2011, 12:15:05 PM
I would just leave it alone and forget about it, if someone is baiting a bear so what. That's just my opinion, i think its a stupid law that doesn't make anysense. People that bait generally get the big boars and don't usually end up shooting sows with cubs by mistake. I would just walk away.....
Just because you don't agree with a particular law, doesn't make a good reason to break it.
It's also a darn shame the amount of trash left in the woods by bear baiters.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 31, 2011, 12:22:31 PM
Post by: jackmaster on May 31, 2011, 12:38:35 PM
not all baiters were slobs sako, i consider myself an expert when it comes to baiting, have done it my whole life, it was sad when we lost that privelage, i have always left the woods cleaner than i found it, as for trophy hunt not to many people have the passion for hunting as he does, like me sometimes what we think doesnt always come out right on a computer, from the looks of that bait station it probably belongs to a timber company, and baiting is the most humane way to take a bear, i once ran into a bow hunter who shot a bear, he thought it was the biggest bear he ever saw, well i helped him find it, it turned out to be a brand new cub maybe 20 pounds, now had he been huntn over a bait, maybe that wouldnt have happened.I would just leave it alone and forget about it, if someone is baiting a bear so what. That's just my opinion, i think its a stupid law that doesn't make anysense. People that bait generally get the big boars and don't usually end up shooting sows with cubs by mistake. I would just walk away.....
Just because you don't agree with a particular law, doesn't make a good reason to break it.
It's also a darn shame the amount of trash left in the woods by bear baiters.
Post by: cohoho on May 31, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on May 31, 2011, 01:14:07 PM
Post by: Bofire on May 31, 2011, 01:22:25 PM
Carl
Post by: dscubame on May 31, 2011, 05:16:02 PM
Really poked the hive and walked away - lol :chuckle: I've ran into a couple about 15-20 minutes from my house. Oh ya, they were in ID... My guess here. But we'll never know... :devil:
I haven't walked anywhere Kopperbuck. Figured it was a bait station just wanted to confirm. I don't know anymore more so I have not had any comments on all the speculation, actually not all that concerned with all the rest. Whoever it was also cut up the forest pretty good clearing the area and piling up brush / limbs and essentially cutting a clearing in the woods.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 31, 2011, 05:32:09 PM
Something I prided myself in also was a cleaner area than when I started. The barrel and chains were the only objects not consumable and they had to be out of the woods by the end of the season. In a couple areas I baited it was required you gave GPS coordinates and trust me AK Troopers would visit. They would check everything from if there was fish remnants in the barrel, registration cards, to site clean up after wards. The law up there was restrictive to the point of even contaminated dirt (grease) had to be removed at the end of the season. Several areas required a mandatory Bear Baiting class in order to define the rules a bit further. Again - it was a law that had to be followed in order to participate in the activity.It is all good, I 100% agree that it should be legalised again and a bait class is a great idea. And the state should do a better job informing the voters if it ever does come up again. I personally changed one lady's mind at work (tree hugger to boot) when I had a chance to talk to her about it. Take care.
Post by: rebal69972 on May 31, 2011, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on May 31, 2011, 09:46:55 PM
Really poked the hive and walked away - lol :chuckle: I've ran into a couple about 15-20 minutes from my house. Oh ya, they were in ID... My guess here. But we'll never know... :devil:
I haven't walked anywhere Kopperbuck. Figured it was a bait station just wanted to confirm. I don't know anymore more so I have not had any comments on all the speculation, actually not all that concerned with all the rest. Whoever it was also cut up the forest pretty good clearing the area and piling up brush / limbs and essentially cutting a clearing in the woods.
Good deal. Just tired of negative speculation. I thought it was bird house at first ;)
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on May 31, 2011, 10:31:17 PM
All I can tell ya is to just do not go near one .. one time we were bow hunting and a buddy had apples out for deer and someone saw them and called the warden and long and behold as they went to check it their happened to be a bear on it .. they waited for him to come to the stand and ask him if he was baiting bear .. he said no but after they checked him they told him if you shoot the bear your be hunting illegal ... once the tree huggers hear of instances like this it will be the end of baiting deer too !!!! :yike:
When it comes to our freedom to bait deer it's not just the tree huggers we need to worry about but also fellow hunters who stand ready to give up our rights.
Post by: iRem on June 01, 2011, 04:02:11 PM
Post by: Ripper on June 02, 2011, 09:02:41 PM
Post by: frostman on June 02, 2011, 09:58:12 PM
Nobody is stating the obvious here regarding outlawing baiting and hound hunting (as we all know, the most effective means of control over wild carnivorous animals); this state has been under liberal democrat rule for over 30 f*%*&%ing years. Liberlaism is a mental disorder and must be stopped VERY SOON! Right is wrong and wrong is right with these insane liberal's
Post by: brew on June 02, 2011, 10:01:38 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on June 03, 2011, 12:19:41 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on June 03, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
Nice tag line Ripper. One of the best Priest tunes. Best heard live on "Unleashed in the East".:yeah:in fact i got to get that song on my phone
Post by: brew on June 04, 2011, 12:16:25 AM
I call bullchit. Names or quit stirring the pot. Garbage post.frankly i couldn't give a rip less what you call it....just telling you how it was...
Post by: Ripper on June 04, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
Back to the topic. The game dept really pisses me off when they can't agree on the interpretation of the law. Ticketing someone for having a shell holder on the outside of your gun is BS. I have one of those on my TC Pro hunter since it's a single shot. That is NOT a Loaded firearm and I would hope any judge in their right mind would not let that stand. That would mean an unbiased judge, so get out your wallet cause in this state you're going down if you're a gun owner.
I also agree with the previous poster that I wouldn't get caught baiting bears for any reason in this state. It's a bad idea all the way around. We can only hope and press our legislators to over turn the law. Keep writting those letters gentlemen, or start if you havn't done so yet.
Post by: joebear on July 25, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
Would you say this is for baiting bear?This really looks like photo shop to me???????? but yes if you are trying to get attention then yes this is what a bait station would look like.
Post by: seth30 on July 25, 2011, 09:14:07 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on July 25, 2011, 09:48:41 PM
I wonder how the laws would be if we went back to baiting. YOu spend all of preseason baiting, footing the bill, and come out opening day to have some one else sitting over your bait station. My luck and hunting im sure it would happen to me :chuckle:
Good point what about a draft plan for baiting on private land?
Post by: seth30 on July 26, 2011, 03:25:23 PM
Post by: h20hunter on July 26, 2011, 03:29:43 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on July 26, 2011, 06:55:58 PM
Post by: kalamasasquatch on July 26, 2011, 10:28:45 PM
It is pretty obvious what we all see here. Look at the scratch marks on the barrel. Oh....wait, I have figured it out. Somebody was thoughtfull enuf to put out a secured snack stash for Bigfoot.... :dunno:
thanks for the snacks! i really appreciate it!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 30, 2011, 10:08:30 PM