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Title: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: btlsoom on June 02, 2011, 09:41:37 AM
Well, it is OFFICIAL..  We have changed our name and our status.  We are now the WASHINGTON PREDATOR HUNTING ASSOCIATION and have licensed ourselves as a non-profit Association.  We had been receiving requests from the dry side so after we were able to change the name registrations, here we are. We will be looking for a member to facilitate some of the East side activities and we will be holding gatherings in the central state area.  Although our old web site is still up and running (http://wwpha.com/ (http://wwpha.com/)), we have launched our new site at http://washingtonpredatorhuntingassociation.com/ (http://washingtonpredatorhuntingassociation.com/)  It was released on 6/1 so there currently is very limited posts as we decided not to transfer the old posts.  The new site is a dual action site.  It is accessible for every one to use this time (once you register) but certain segments are still Membership specific (got to be some part that way  :tung:)  We are still actively seeking memberships and continue to have informative meetings with guest speakers and exciting events.  Likewise, we have developed a good working relationship with the WDFW and we have been working close with each other. Watch for future posts for the July meeting at Cabela's.

Upcoming events:  June 4/5: Members BBQ at Friends Landing, July 9: Meeting at Cabela's (?), August: Egg Shoot / Meeting, January 14th 2012: Predator expo at / with Cabela's, January 2012: First Annual Washington Coyote Classic

So, check it out....

Randy
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: littletoes on June 04, 2011, 07:17:58 AM
seemed fairly dead to me.....although still undecided about joining.  ;)
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: Raul Duke on June 05, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
i'll have to keep this in mind, join later.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: btlsoom on June 07, 2011, 02:12:41 PM
I will admit that we are just now branching our reach out to the east side as we have focused here on the west for over a year now and have developed a pretty good group.  What we need is some east side folks that are really into predator hunting to get involved so it will facilitate the east side folks better.

I will be the first to admit that I know very little about the east side and for that matter, have only been in Washington for a few years.  That does not make it any less of a desire to make our sport that much better.

Yes, it is pretty dead right now as it is really not the correct time of the year to be out chasing yotes as it still is the dening season and we do want them to raise future hunting opportunities don't we?  :chuckle:

We are planing out next meeting which is July 9th at Cabela's in Lacey but want to hold some out more toward the central state once we get a member base from that area.  Right now, we have to cater towards the majority. 

Also, in late January or early February, we will be hosting the first annual Washington Coyote Classic.  A two day / 2 man event.  This will be based somewhere in central WA but I will need help designating a location..

OK, I will shut up for now but will continue to push for the success of this adventure... any help would be greatly appreciated..

Randy
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: littletoes on June 07, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
I'd have to say, as little as you say you know about the East side, I can sure make a safe bet that I know even LESS about the West Side!

I see folks, who are from towns I've never heard of, and have no idea of the location.
As to having "Desire", I know of a few folks over here, that will give anyone over there a run for their money when it comes to the love of hunting predators! No worries in THAT department.   :tup:

Although I can't think of any one thing that a "Membership" might help with, when it comes to Predator Hunting over here....its crowded enough, and I'm not ready to share "MY" spots.   ;)

Good information is always Good though!
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: rb2506 on June 07, 2011, 05:08:26 PM
it's not just about sharing your hot spots, I think it's more about getting a voice out there for the hunters
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bearmanric on June 07, 2011, 05:11:52 PM
we helped alot keeping night hunting open. one of are member's did a great deal. Rick ;)
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 07, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
I know a lot about both sides of the state. Lived in hell (westside) for 46 years and moved to the eastside 11 years ago. Everybody join Washington for Wildlife and I'll join WWPHA. That's a fair deal. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: btlsoom on June 07, 2011, 06:43:17 PM
We have 1 member that is our spokesman with the WDFW.  We have become recognized by them as an official association and respect our in put and desires.  What Ryan is saying is that numbers will also add strength to our quests to strengthen our voice with the WDFW.  At meetings, we forward to our spokesman what we want checked out and he does.  Hence, a good working relationship has developed.
It is not all about hunting, but protecting what we have and enhancing what we can.

But the hunting partner is also good when the opportunity arrives.. :chuckle:

Randy
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: littletoes on June 07, 2011, 06:50:24 PM
Ever hear of these boys???

http://www.wildlifecouncil.com/ (http://www.wildlifecouncil.com/)

They've done quite a bit for wildlife in this area, most likely more than anyone in the State.
Use to be a member, but its just too far to drive these days, especially in the winter.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: billythekidrock on June 07, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
we helped alot keeping night hunting open. one of are member's did a great deal. Rick ;)

Not sure if you saw it or not Rick, but at the last meeting Miranda Wecker brought up night hunting again and it will be discussed in the next three year cycle.
 
This time it does not look too good.
 
The tribes want an exception so they can hunt bears and cougars at night.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: Jack Diamond on June 07, 2011, 07:27:53 PM
Predator hunting is a sport??  having a sheep herd I just figured its part of the job. dumb me.
 :dunno:
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 07, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
we helped alot keeping night hunting open. one of are member's did a great deal. Rick ;)

Not sure if you saw it or not Rick, but at the last meeting Miranda Wecker brought up night hunting again and it will be discussed in the next three year cycle.
 
This time it does not look too good.
 
The tribes want an exception so they can hunt bears and cougars at night.

The tribes want an exception from who ? We can't hunt on their land so they shouldn't get special privledges from the WDFW.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: billythekidrock on June 07, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: rb2506 on June 07, 2011, 07:49:45 PM
I've missed your input lately billy :dunno:  (wpha)
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: boneaddict on June 08, 2011, 06:15:06 AM
Quote
chasing yotes as it still is the dening season and we do want them to raise future hunting opportunities don't we?

ah no, no we don't.   :)

Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bearpaw on June 08, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
I think it is wise to support as many pro-hunting organizations as possible, I really liked Campmeats comment.... :tup:
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bucklucky on June 08, 2011, 09:03:34 AM
I know a lot about both sides of the state. Lived in hell (westside) for 46 years and moved to the eastside 11 years ago. Everybody join Washington for Wildlife and I'll join WWPHA. That's a fair deal. :chuckle:

Im a member of both!!
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bearmanric on June 08, 2011, 09:33:30 AM
this isnt going well. sure get tired of the eastside crap. we are passinate about predator calling. we  just trying to save our predator hunting..Rick

Looking into the washington for wild life now. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 08, 2011, 01:22:34 PM
We get tired of all the westside crap too. That's not a very good comment what you said if you want to grow your association. It's that kind of "COASTIE attitude" that the westsiders are famous for. It's me, me, me.  :chuckle: :chuckle: I lived over there, so I know all about that.

Randy is going to send me info on trying to help out on the eastside with ideas or whatever you guys need. I'll help as much as possible. I've sent him my home address if he wants to mail anything to me. You can also get it from him or me if you want. Predator hunting is by far my favorite thing to do, remember all those calls you sent me ????
Campmeat
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bearmanric on June 08, 2011, 01:35:47 PM
sorry i'll stay out of stuff and no more posting here on these post.  sorry if i have caused problem's. Rick


didnt like what Little Toes said.

I'd have to say, as little as you say you know about the East side, I can sure make a safe bet that I know even LESS about the West Side!

I see folks, who are from towns I've never heard of, and have no idea of the location.
As to having "Desire", I know of a few folks over here, that will give anyone over there a run for their money when it comes to the love of hunting predators! No worries in THAT department. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/thumbsup.gif)

Although I can't think of any one thing that a "Membership" might help with, when it comes to Predator Hunting over here....its crowded enough, and I'm not ready to share "MY" spots. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Good information is always Good though!
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 08, 2011, 01:45:28 PM
Rick,
No offense taken here from me. Anyhow, Randy is going to send me his thoughts to look at. I ain't no expert by all means, I just like hunting predators too.
Campmeat
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: stumprat on June 08, 2011, 06:28:21 PM
we helped alot keeping night hunting open. one of are member's did a great deal. Rick ;)

Not sure if you saw it or not Rick, but at the last meeting Miranda Wecker brought up night hunting again and it will be discussed in the next three year cycle.
 
This time it does not look too good.
 
The tribes want an exception so they can hunt bears and cougars at night.

The tribes want an exception from who ? We can't hunt on their land so they shouldn't get special privledges from the WDFW.



These are the kind of issues the WPHA wants to take on. But strength comes in numbers. Which is why we have changed our name. And want to get some east side guys on board.

P.S. The tribe in question is the Colville.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 08, 2011, 06:38:10 PM
I'd join if I knew what was up. There are coyote hunts in eastern washington in the winter that I'd like to do, but, nobody advertises them. It seems to be word of mouth. Hillbillies I guess....... :dunno:
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: rangerstx2316 on June 08, 2011, 06:49:33 PM
yeah i tryed to go to one of them hunts around pomeroy that some of the locals put on we contacted someone dont remember who to make arrangement for hotels and whatnot and we basically told it was for locals only. I was pretty disappointed because i thought it was all supposed to be about the hunting not what side of the state you live on. :dunno:
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 08, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
yeah i tryed to go to one of them hunts around pomeroy that some of the locals put on we contacted someone dont remember who to make arrangement for hotels and whatnot and we basically told it was for locals only. I was pretty disappointed because i thought it was all supposed to be about the hunting not what side of the state you live on. :dunno:

I know I can't figure it out myself. It's either from the Lions Club or a Gun Club, go figure, huh !
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: littletoes on June 09, 2011, 07:55:55 PM
sorry i'll stay out of stuff and no more posting here on these post.  sorry if i have caused problem's. Rick


didnt like what Little Toes said.

I'd have to say, as little as you say you know about the East side, I can sure make a safe bet that I know even LESS about the West Side!

I see folks, who are from towns I've never heard of, and have no idea of the location.
As to having "Desire", I know of a few folks over here, that will give anyone over there a run for their money when it comes to the love of hunting predators! No worries in THAT department. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/thumbsup.gif)

Although I can't think of any one thing that a "Membership" might help with, when it comes to Predator Hunting over here....its crowded enough, and I'm not ready to share "MY" spots. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Good information is always Good though!

Ah! But Rick, I didn't have any intention of making it a "East or West" thing....I've worked very hard for some of my spots, amazingly hard. Lots of phone calls...e-mails, foot work, knocking on doors. The point was, I don't want to share with anyone, East OR West.   

I have no issue with you posting your feelings on this, and I do indeed agree with the above, that "WE" as a group, need each other for our voting power to save hunting in EVERY form.

Over the years, I have been exceptionally generous on my hunting spots, and have been repaid by friends bringing friends, family, associates.....Not saying YOU, or anyone else would or has done this....I've just been forced to "go back to the drawing board" many, many times. Talk about frustration.....

The sad part is I know "me", and I'll tell folks where to go to find good game....guess its the way I am??? Don't know.....   
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bearmanric on June 09, 2011, 08:09:13 PM
Were cool I was a bear guide. Alot of the guys and friends hunt my spots I found also. Understand what your saying now. Take care. Rick
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: stumprat on June 12, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
littletoes,
We are not just a group looking to pick you clean of your hunting areas. You don't have to share any of that. We are a group of hunters wanting to make sure that we can retain what hunting we still have. And possibly add some.

We are also trying to open a line of dialogue with the WDFW, and the commission. Hopefully to put a rest to some of the us against them feeling on both sides. We recently had 2 WDFW higher ups come in and put on a presentation on cat bioligy. They were very interested in our input. And the attending members left with some great knowlege, and a good feeling from this interaction. Personally it was the best public outreach I have seen the dept. make.

We will be having them in for future presentations pertaining to coyotes, and also for bears.

We are the Washington Predator Hunting Association. And predator hunting isn't just limited to predator callers. It includes anyone that aims a rifle at a predator. If predator hunting is something that you enjoy. Then we definitely need your support.
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: btlsoom on June 14, 2011, 11:10:27 PM
As adnahoundsman indicated, we are not just a bunch of dog calling hunters, we are sportsmen and women who are trying to preserve what we have and are trying to make it better.  I will admit that the WWPHA was started by a bunch of predator callers but we have progressed into a good thing.  Are we still predator callers, yes.  But not all predator hunters are callers.  If you point a weapon at a predator, you are a predator hunter.  What we are trying to do is foster our relationship with the WDFW so we can continue to have input in future decisions and regulations.  The meeting he indicated about the cats of Washington was a very good meeting.  It established that open door of communication we so desperately needed.  What we need now is continued growth in membership as we all know that there is strength in numbers.  Hence, we are now the entire state...

Randy
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: bearpaw on June 15, 2011, 04:57:52 PM
Glad you guys changed your name, I think you will grow and be more effective this way.

I just joined.....  :tup:
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: littletoes on June 15, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
Fully agree with what both of you are saying. I have been a member of such a group founded here in the Inland Northwest.

http://www.wildlifecouncil.com/ (http://www.wildlifecouncil.com/)

They are the one and same that put on the Spokane Bighorn Show, each and every year. 100% volunteer also.

Their agenda is the same as yours, and have had a great and growing relationship with the Department of Fish & Wildlife.

Perhaps a "connection" with them is in order??? 
Title: Re: Changes to the WWPHA
Post by: stumprat on June 15, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Fully agree with what both of you are saying. I have been a member of such a group founded here in the Inland Northwest.

http://www.wildlifecouncil.com/ (http://www.wildlifecouncil.com/)

They are the one and same that put on the Spokane Bighorn Show, each and every year. 100% volunteer also.

Their agenda is the same as yours, and have had a great and growing relationship with the Department of Fish & Wildlife.

Perhaps a "connection" with them is in order???


littletoes,
Thank you for the link. I will definitely check them out. I will also be talking to the membership about supporting the W.W.C.
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