Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
Currently I have a Martin Firecat TR2, 67lbs, 29.5 draw. I am shooting Easton FMJ 350 with 100 grain tip, blazer veins, puts me right at regs at 400 grains + or - a grain.
Through the chrony I am shooting 267 FPS.
I am curious as to others on the board here... what is your set up and what speed are you getting?
With the regs being what they are, does anyone have a set up where they are at or well over 300 fps?
Post by: huntnfmly on June 06, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 11:45:38 AM
Often because of the regs here in WA it is tough to take advantage of the advertised speed on most bows.
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 06, 2011, 11:46:06 AM
My 82nd airborne is shooting a 325gr arrow at 327fps. 5.4gpp it will go over 300fps at 6gpp
Post by: jackelope on June 06, 2011, 11:47:20 AM
Hoyt Alphamax 32 64#, 30" draw, my arrows are around 420 grains all up.
Post by: jackelope on June 06, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
WA regs require 6 grains per inch.per inch or per # of draw weight?
Often because of the regs here in WA it is tough to take advantage of the advertised speed on most bows.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 11:56:26 AM
Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 11:56:54 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on June 06, 2011, 12:35:47 PM
Post by: Tony on June 06, 2011, 12:51:38 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 12:58:37 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76982.30.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76982.30.html)
This is my setup.
PSE X FORCE! Here are my stats for diffrent situations.
Washington hunting "to be legal" 450g arrow at 75lbs= 307fps KE=94
New Zealand/areas that don't have a min arrow weight. 450g arrow at 83lbs= 323fps KE=104
3d shoots if I change from my washington setup 375g arrow 75lbs= 332fps KE=92
Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 01:16:53 PM
compared to others I seem to be a bit slow for the weight I have... maybe another trip to Nock Point is in order :)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 01:50:22 PM
Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 01:57:19 PM
Right now a 29" arrow @10.2 = 295 + the tip of 100 grains and 4 blazer veins put me right at 400..
I will say this though.. the FMJs sure to seem like they hit a whole lot harder.
Post by: huntnfmly on June 06, 2011, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on June 06, 2011, 02:09:36 PM
Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
howdy i was just on easton web site the 340 are 11.3 and the 400 are 10.2 so your arrow wieght is actually more than you think approx 29grns more wick would make alittle more sense with your speed
Yeah, sorry, I got those mixed up. I WAS shooting the 340.. now I am shooting the 400..
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 02:18:26 PM
Oh O.K. that makes a lot more sense now :chuckle:
Post by: huntnfmly on June 06, 2011, 02:20:16 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 02:24:03 PM
Post by: let.it.fly on June 06, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 02:51:11 PM
Post by: MDGrand on June 06, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
yeah, I know that shot placement is above all else.. I am just looking to get the flatest shot I can to 40-50 yards.
Post by: let.it.fly on June 06, 2011, 02:57:49 PM
Speed is not that important, compared to shot placement. It does help and being able to shoot flatter is nice.
i will definetly agree with you there. miss judging range by five yards at 300 fps vs 250 can be the diference between a low heart/lung shot and a complete miss. i learned that one real fast shooting 3d's. of course when hunting im using a range finder.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 03:01:21 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 03:02:59 PM
Post by: let.it.fly on June 06, 2011, 03:04:04 PM
let it fly and Carp..
yeah, I know that shot placement is above all else.. I am just looking to get the flatest shot I can to 40-50 yards.
flat is great amd all and you could definetly get away with shooting that fast with a light arrow. its just preference. i preffer slower and quite with tons of KE. but my bow isnt that fast to begin with. with my bow set up for 3-d i am barely breaking 295. id say if you can get away with pushing a 500 grn arrow past 300 fps your getting the best of both worlds. but for me once im at 500 even maxed out at 73-74 lbs im only get 270ish so i will save my shoulders and go around 60 lbs
Post by: let.it.fly on June 06, 2011, 03:09:48 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 03:22:38 PM
hey carp while we got ya. im trying to find a good arrow set up for my long bow, i want to hunt with it this year and need recomendations. it shooting "the stick" at 50 or 55 at 29" cant quit remember. i have shot a couple diferent arrows. i wana stay with a carbon shaft. but am not sure what broadhead to use or spine choice or basicaly anything. i just know heavier arrows seem to be more forgiving for me.
I really like a carbon arrow as well even though I do shoot some traditional wood arrows and make a few stone points. The best arrow for me and my recurves at 50-55 and 60#'s is a tapered carbon arrow dynamics. They hit hard and shoot great! As for a head I really like the magnus buzzcuts 2 blade or 2 blade with bleeders. You do want a heavy arrow with the trad gear. Another great head with or without the bleeders is the zephyr. Here is a link to them.
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Sasquatch++Screw-In+Broadheads_i6765_baseitem.html (http://www.3riversarchery.com/Sasquatch++Screw-In+Broadheads_i6765_baseitem.html)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Scirocco++4-Blade+Screw-In+Broadheads_i6764_baseitem.html (http://www.3riversarchery.com/Scirocco++4-Blade+Screw-In+Broadheads_i6764_baseitem.html)
If you want to go more traditional, look at the good old ben pearson dead heads. My fave "older" broadheads of all time! They are spendy and the other heads are a little better for killing power. I just love to screw those old heads on :drool: Something about it makes my heart beat faster.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
Post by: let.it.fly on June 06, 2011, 03:31:05 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
Post by: nwhntr08 on June 07, 2011, 08:00:42 AM
Post by: ribka on June 07, 2011, 08:10:00 AM
They also make a smaller one called the scirocco.
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Scirocco++4-Blade+Screw-In+Broadheads_i6764_baseitem.html (http://www.3riversarchery.com/Scirocco++4-Blade+Screw-In+Broadheads_i6764_baseitem.html)
If you want to go more traditional, look at the good old ben pearson dead heads. My fave "older" broadheads of all time! They are spendy and the other heads are a little better for killing power. I just love to screw those old heads on :drool: Something about it makes my heart beat faster.
I have a 57 lb long bow and get around 170 fps with 500 gr arrow. Have shot through quite a few deer.
Luv the BP deadheads. I have a 1/2 doz from the 1960's from my Dad when he bow hunted.
Have shot 3 does with them. Big holes!!
Post by: Machias on June 07, 2011, 08:10:18 AM
Post by: k_rex on June 08, 2011, 03:20:02 AM
30" Beman ICS Camo Hunter 340 with 100gr. 445 gr. total
285fps
I've moved to a lighter arrow since and haven't chrono'd them.
Post by: MDGrand on June 08, 2011, 07:27:59 AM
I wonder what is going on...
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Post by: Battle Ready on June 30, 2011, 11:38:38 PM
My KE is off the chart...I have to shoot my elk through the shoulders so I have at least the hind quarters left to eat!
My Broadheads aren't sharp at all...but they can survive shooting through brick walls and super mans buttocks.
My sight is a high output semi conductor green light laser...got a 2200 mile sight pin dopped in today.
MW (aka Marvin Wafflehouse ) would call me a bone collector because with my high speed bow, from here were I live...I can shoot deer in Alabama...I'm that good...and so IS my ultra fast, Hi speed, arrowdynamic, self centering, fire bolt of lighting, that rains down death and distruction all over the planet.
I'm the new Rambo...cause my bow DOES shoot down helicopters..even fighter jets, heck even polar satellites.
When I shoot this bow...Opie isn't the only one who says "GOLY that was swell pa"
I'm fixin to kill me one of them that 42 inch main beamed bucks with palmaded front G1 and and them thar dropped off tines.
Just kidding guys...just having a little fun
Post by: RadSav on July 01, 2011, 03:15:10 AM
Post by: rasbo on July 01, 2011, 05:21:23 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 01, 2011, 05:48:44 AM
See I have a TR2 and my arrow is roughly 40 grains less.. pulling 67 lbs, I am surprised I am not getting close to 300 fps..
I wonder what is going on...
MDGrand - I thought the 400 FMJ was spined way too light for the TR2 at 67#/29.5. Also was not sure how you are getting 400 grains from the FMJ. So I just put your info into Archers-Advantage figuring your shooting a 29" arrow at that 29.5" draw. Still not sure where that 400 grain FMJ is coming from.
Anyhow, AA shows the 400 spine arrow is leaving optimum spine at 49# of draw weight. Perhaps your not getting the speed because that arrow is trying to fold in half at 67#! Just a thought.
Following AA, which I have come to trust, the 300 FMJ fits spine better using the info you've provided. Though that really messes up your FOC if your using a 100 grain point. Estimated speed with Blazers and no wrap 287 fps. All carbon Axis 300 should leave you just shy of 300.
Martin bows are usually over rated in their speed listing. But yes I would agree you should be faster than you're showing.
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