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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: PA BEN on June 15, 2011, 04:27:04 AM
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Put my 12 yr old daughter and I in for all kinds of partner draws and we drew cow elk tags for Raymond.
2252 Raymond WF Dec. 16-31 Antlerless Elk Area 6010 10 430 / 6
I hunted once down there and seemed like a lot of elk in the area. I won't have to take her out of school to hunt, we can hunt Christmas break. One thing about it this might be a better chance of not having to eat tag soup this year. Anybody know Elk Area 6010 I would like any and all help to get my daughter her first elk.
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All private property. You'll definitely want to do some scouting down there before you go.
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Get to know John Wildhaber a local dairy farmer. He has an elk problem and would most likely grant you access.
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Get to know John Wildhaber a local dairy farmer. He has an elk problem and would most likely grant you access.
Thanks, Googled the name and got the phone #. The wife needs to get off the phone so I can call. :bash:
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The one in red is the one we drew. I go and look in the reg.s to see how many permits and the elk seasons in this area before my hunt. When I put in I looked and there were no codes for these draws, IE; privet land access. Nothing there, so I think State, Fed. and lumber co. land. So, I look at the master hunter permits and this draw has codes by it, 2723 Raymond HC Any elk tag Yes Oct. 1 ‑ Mar. 31 Antlerless Elk Area 6010 5 65 / 7 The HC stands for "C Private lands; access is extremely limited. If you cannot secure access to private lands do not apply for these hunts." And the other is hunter orange. I know I have to work on scoutting anyway but now it looks like I'll be knocking on quite a few doors too.
2252 Raymond WF Dec. 16-31 Antlerless Elk Area 6010 10 430 / 62253 Raymond WF Jan. 1-20 Antlerless Elk Area 6010 5 399 / 4
2254 Raymond WF Feb. 1-28 Antlerless Elk Area 6010 5 376 / 5
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Track down Willipawapiti, he lives in Raymond and has killed elk with his daughter on that hunt I believe... he may be willing to line you out.
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the HC for the master hunt means that it is a damage controlled hunt. Successful applicants will be contacted on an as need basis.
I don't think this applies to your hunt. Hope this helps.
Ken
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the HC for the master hunt means that it is a damage controlled hunt. Successful applicants will be contacted on an as need basis.
I don't think this applies to your hunt. Hope this helps.
Ken
Thanks, I guess there wasn't a coma between the HC, I just looked at the C and the H. I BAD :bash:
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I would love to help you and your daughter. PM sent.......
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I want to thank all the guys for the help so far. I plan on camping down there this summer w/my family and doing some scouting. Anybody know how the salmon and steelhead fishing is down that way?
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pm sent
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Both my father and I have been drawn for your hunt. The dairy farmer the other member posted will let you hunt. We took 2 cows off his property when we were drawn. The key is to get drawn for the Dec, Jan, or Feb hunts. The area gets alot of local hunting pressure in the farm lands. If you get a general season cow tag, your chances are poor unless your a local. It is a pull up and shoot tag if you get drawn for the later hunts. Your daughter should fill her tag within the first hour of daylight if you get access to hunt on the dairy farm the other member posted.
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I lost the info and the pms that were posted here just a few days ago. Could who ever it was post the info back up? I knew I should have wrote it down but the server crashed and all was lost :bash: BTW, my spell check still does not work. :bash:
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PA BEN, I will pm you with Info.
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For you guys that know the area. I have two ground blinds. With all the rain that time of year I was thinking of using them. Do the elk come out in the fields most every day like deer do? My daughter has made heads shots on deer out of ground blinds before. I've only hunted elk the back country way. This meat hunt will be fun for us. Thanks :tup:
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I think you would be wasting your time on ground blinds. I would think that you would do just fine driving around and finding a herd. I tried calling yesterday but no answer. Right now the elk are being easliy spooked due to so much pressure.
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Thanks for the call. I got another call too and I want to say thanks you guys for all the help. I was going to go down to Cabela's on Black Friday with my daughter and get her some winter rain gear and head down to the hunting area, but it didn't work out. Swains in town here had a black Friday sale and I got her Rivers west rain gear at 33% off and a good pair of insulated rubber boots. I will call you guys when I get a game plan on our hunt. I have a friend in Raymond who said we can stay at his house but it's going to be my daughter and I hunting and scouting at the same time. Hope to get her in on some steelhead fishing also, she's never caught a big fish in a river. So I hope this trip w/be a first elk and steelhead too.
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You don't need a ground blind. Just stay in your truck with the heat running. The elk are in the dairy farmers field all year. All you have to do, is be there at daylight and have your daughter get out and shoot. It is not much of a hunt. It is a super small area. The hunt was designed specifically to help out a few of the farmers complaining about their fences being damaged by the elk. If they are not in the field, you can hunt the timber on either side of the road to the top. If you go over the top, the area is not open. I would not waste your time getting out of the truck and beating the brush. Just show up every morning/evening and drive the road until you see one. The road takes less than 10 minutes to drive down. This hunting is not hunting. It is a pull up a shoot an elk so called hunting tag.
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I think you would be wasting your time on ground blinds. I would think that you would do just fine driving around and finding a herd. I tried calling yesterday but no answer. Right now the elk are being easliy spooked due to so much pressure.
:yeah:
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You don't need a ground blind. Just stay in your truck with the heat running. The elk are in the dairy farmers field all year. All you have to do, is be there at daylight and have your daughter get out and shoot. It is not much of a hunt. It is a super small area. The hunt was designed specifically to help out a few of the farmers complaining about their fences being damaged by the elk. If they are not in the field, you can hunt the timber on either side of the road to the top. If you go over the top, the area is not open. I would not waste your time getting out of the truck and beating the brush. Just show up every morning/evening and drive the road until you see one. The road takes less than 10 minutes to drive down. This hunting is not hunting. It is a pull up a shoot an elk so called hunting tag.
Well I call it HUNTING. MEAT HUNTING :chuckle:
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PA BEN,,, We are going to require that you post pictures of your daughters BIG COW :tup: :tup: and maybe your calf :chuckle: :chuckle:
Good luck on your "MEAT HUNT"
Hunterman(Tony)
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I will let her shoot the cow and so the calf doesn't grow up w/out a mom I will shoot it. Less meat to bone out that way :chuckle:
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Easier to get to the truck too :tup: :tup:
Hunterman(Tony)
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Hopefully it will be like this. Took these pictures out of Forks yesterday. Went out shooting and plunking for steelhead.
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Just got the truck loaded and heading out. About 3 1/2 hr drive. I know it's a late start but the daughter had a party to go to last night. :bash: O well only 5 tags for this area and we got 2, not like there will be hunters everywhere. :IBCOOL:
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Good luck!!!!!! :tup:
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Good luck!!!!!! :tup:
:yeah:
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Great pics and good luck! If your daughter wears Georgia Romeos I bet you do too. I promise they are a good luck shoe and i never leave home without them :tup: :chuckle:
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Just got home from our first trip over to Raymond. All I have to say is I hope we get one. Those elk have been hunted hard for 4 months, lots of sign but old. You don't know how small the area is until you hunt it. Everywhere we went there was boned out elk and hides. All the farmers we talked to were real nice and let us hunt there land. I forgot my game camera but will take it next week after Christmas. My Daughter did spot some elk in a clear cut and we went after them. I had a 390 yd shot at a big cow, but I wanted my daughter to get one. We put the sneak on them and followed them for about an hr and a ½ until they went into a steep canyon, they were only 50 yds in front of us but could see them. I didn't want to kill one down there in that hole with just me and my daughter so I did two cow calls and they went to the bottom and called back to us the whole way down. We are having fun and that’s what it’s all about but we could use the meat. I would like to thank all the members who have helped us out so far. Here is a picture of my daughter sitting in a field that the elk were in the night before but they didn't come in that night. :bash:
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Nice pic, and good luck!
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Good luck to you guys! (hunters :chuckle:) hope they are just laying around for you to chose :tup:
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try greencrick road, or up behind the white church in Menlo...
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Good luck! Hope you and your little girl connect!
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try greencrick road, or up behind the white church in Menlo...
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Up green creek is where we got into them. :tup:
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my folks used to live in the second house on the left, up on the little hill... lots of elk in there..
trust me I know.....
try the power line right by the sub station also...
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Pa Ben,
Soon as you turn on greencrick. there is a house with a big shop and pond. This use to be my neighbor. old logger guy. He is great and may provide some more info.. Let him know your daughter has a cow tag....
Ps dont drive on his field.... ha ha ha
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Good luck! Hope you and your little girl connect!
I should have let the air out of that cow at 390 yds and filled my tag, but I didn't even think about it!!! :bdid: All I thought was to get my daughter her first elk. We would have our meat for the year. It was very quit out with no wind. So we took our time to be quit and the elk had time to move off. We were right on them but they went in to that hole. :bash:
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Pa Ben,
Soon as you turn on greencrick. there is a house with a big shop and pond. This use to be my neighbor. old logger guy. He is great and may provide some more info.. Let him know your daughter has a cow tag....
Ps dont drive on his field.... ha ha ha
His name is Manly. Very nice man.
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Pa Ben,
Soon as you turn on greencrick. there is a house with a big shop and pond. This use to be my neighbor. old logger guy. He is great and may provide some more info.. Let him know your daughter has a cow tag....
Ps dont drive on his field.... ha ha ha
Sent me a pm with more info (your name) and I will talk to him. :tup:
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my folks used to live in the second house on the left, up on the little hill... lots of elk in there..
trust me I know.....
try the power line right by the sub station also...
I used to spend quite a bit of time at that house. Franky was a great guy.
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Was he the dairy farmer??
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Was he the dairy farmer??
Thats his brother Joe.
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wow small world,
I heard some stories about them but never met any of them. My folks only lived there for a year. Lots of deer and elk there on the property. I woud love it if they still had it..... From the house to the powerlines is a great place to hunt....
and the coyotes are thick ..........
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wow small world,
I heard some stories about them but never met any of them. My folks only lived there for a year. Lots of deer and elk there on the property. I woud love it if they still had it..... From the house to the powerlines is a great place to hunt....
and the coyotes are thick ..........
made that hunt a lot when I first started hunting deer. Great hunt.
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We didn't hunt the power lines. We might take the bikes next week. I do have a game cart if we get one way back behind a gate.
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Going to head back down late monday because the daughter wants to hang at home a little longer. :bash: I would again like to thank all the members who have helped so far. :tup:
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She needs to get her priorities straight. :chuckle: Gotta keep it fun though. Good Luck!
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PA BEN, I will be out trying to chase down a blacktail in the morning. When you get into town give me call. I will try and do some scouting in the morning for ya. I have another area for you to check on thats real close to green crk, but a different way in.
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Thanks, hope to be on the road by 2pm so no hunting tonight, 3 1/2 hr drive. I'm going to bring my game cam this time to cover more areas.
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At first light yesterday we saw about 60 to 70 head out in this field but they were way in the back. We geared up and went way around and up to the field. It was 15 min.s before shooting hour. By the time we got to with in 300 yds we took a peck over the bank we were behind to see the heard moving into the timber :bash: It took us a long time to get over to move into the timber. The wind was bad so we moved way down wind and then cut accross to them by the time we cut there trail they were long gone. I wanted to cut back down wind and move up on the ridge but my daughter was very hot and started to feel sick. It was rainning hard so we went back to the pick-up to dry out. We looked around until 11 and went back to raymond to dry out and gear up for the evening hunt. Boy did it start to rain then and the wind started to blow hard. So we sat in the pick-up and whiched the field. I thought they would come out in the same place where they moved into the timber in the morning so we could step out and get a shot. But at 4:48pm shooting hr is 4:55pm they came out about 450yds out in a different field. There were only 25 to 30 this time and there was not time left in the day to move on them. :bash: Hope to see them this morning in the same field. Going to get there early and set up befor shooting hr.
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Good luck today! We know your doing your best to get here a shot but remember her having fun and the experience with dad is success also. :tup:
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Just jump on the tracks and take it nice and slow with her. 60+ elk will leave a rut that looks like a D-8 has been there. You should be able to sneak up on a herd that big and pick off a slow cow from the back as they feed through the timber. It'll give her a nice short shot too!
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Best of luck to you guys!
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Have you had a chance to do any steelheading during the day. Hope you get your shot sounds like another front coming.
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Have you had a chance to do any steelheading during the day. Hope you get your shot sounds like another front coming.
Did some last week but the river was to low. Now it's blown out :bash:
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Yesterday morning we moved into an area about 3 10's of a mile form the truck and came accross a small group of elk feeding through the timber, I could have shot one but it wasn't a good set up for her. I sat my daughter down w/shooting sticks thinking the elk would move out in the open right below us. We stayed put for about 25 min.s but they moved into a draw to our left. With the wind in our face, rainning and gusts up to 20 it would be a good stock. As we moved I glassed a head but no elk we could see beds all over so I thought they might have bedded down. About that time they started to move out into the open single file, set her up w/the sticks but they were moving then the lead cow stuck her head up and took the heard strait away. :bash: They were bunched up tight, she said she couldn't get a shot so I pulled up and one cow stepped to the right and stoped. It was about 200 to 250 yd shot. Just as I shot she started moving again. I could see when I shot I missed. :bash: We only saw the tail end of the heard when we first saw them. After the lead 25 or so went up about 25 or more came out of the draw behind the rest. Same thing not moving to fast, the shot didn't seem to spook them to bad with the wind and all. She still couldn't get a steady shot, I could have shot one of them but I needed to fallow up on my first shot. I felt good it was a miss but you have to make sure. We looked for blood and found none. We followed the heard for about 2 1/2 hrs untill they went into this s#!t hole. My Daughter was tired and getting hung up in the brush and I was soked to the bone. No blood no dead elk. We sat in the wind and rain last night but no elk. My wife came down today. We hunted this morning and I had to have her in Raymond at 10 for my wife to pick her up. We went out for some food and sent them home to PA. She had lots of fun and wants to elk hunt again, but she put in 7 1/2 days of hunting with me and wants to go home. Now it's up to me to put our years meat in the frizzer.
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I hope the memories make up for the empty freezer. Great story - thanks for sharing.
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No elk tonight, It was a good set up the wind was right and if the elk came out the way they did two nights ago I would have had a 100 yd shot. But like most nights elk hunting no elk but rain. I forgot my shooting sticks so I have to get them. This little mistake decided my hunt for the morning. I will set up in the field before daylight if no elk I will get my sticks and head up to find them. I was going to go up top and come down but I will hunt up from the bottom. It looks like the elk are in the fields at night so they shouldn't be far up. ;)
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PA BEN, hunted Elk crk this afternoon couldn't find anything. Gave my boy your cell # so if they see something up around the towers in the morning he will call you.
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Thanks. I hope they get one. Like I said I was going to go in on the power line where you put us on the elk the day before. But the bottom is just as good. BTW, thanks for all the help. Hope to have meat to pack out tomorrow. :tup:
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Anybody hear from PABen t'day? Hope he knocks something down. Been rootin for him and his daughter since his first post after he got drawn. I hope he's packin meat out right now. Nice weather t'day in Kitsap. Hope he's got the same down there. Good luck Ben where ever you are.
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Weather down here is better today hope today is the day he has gotten some good local support so he knows where they are at.
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Sure can't say he hasn't been trying. I hope he nails a nice big, fat, tender cow!! :tup:
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Today's weather is far less conducive to killing an elk than the last few days.
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Haven't heard from PA BEN today yet. I was on a herd of elk last night north of Raymond called him and he was out at Trap crk on hwy 6 and just missed a cow. To far for him to get back to where I was with the elk. Been out this morning tough walking because of the frozen ground. He has been hunting his butt of, just hasn't connected.
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Will it's tag soup. :bash: I would have had one Friday night, 180 yd broad side shot very good rest and what did I do? That’s right, I took a head shot and missed. :sry: I am kicking myself now. Will to make my long last day short, I did get into a heard of about 25 head. Got permission to hunt them and got on their trail. The wind wasn't right to go right after them so I went way down wind and to the top of the Mt. they went up on. Cut their trail at the top and got on them. I was sure they would be bedded down at any moment. I followed them until I got too far in that I didn’t want to kill an elk by myself and not knowing the area I’m in. I then worked my way down the side of the Mt. I was on and almost ended up in a bad hole, backed tracked and was back to my truck at 1:30. Come to find out when I talked to PLUVIUSWAPITI on my way back to Raymond to pack and dry out he knew the area I was in and would have no problem helping me out with an elk. :bash: I sat in an area that evening at 3 until dark. It was a good area that I have seen lots of elk but they didn’t show up. Thanks to all the guys on here that helped me out with this hunt. My Daughter and I had lots of fun and will never forget this time together. If there is anything I can do for you guys just ask. A BIG THANKS.
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Jeeze!!! What a bummer! Sorry to hear that. :bash: After all that hard work you shoulda had one to bring home. I went thru the same thing you did only the opposite. I was dialed in at 200yds for a head or neck shot and I shot quite a bit just to make sure. Hunted in the Margaret for 4 days and was getting pretty frustrated. :bash: Then when it came time to go for the shot at 115yds and had a perfect head or neck shot I chickened out and went for the shoulder. Mostly because my gun wouldn't hold still, >:( if ya know what I mean. She only went about 100 feet and crashed. Anyway, sorry to hear ya didn't connect but ya had a good time with your daughter and that's what counts and now you can look forward to and plan for this year. Been following your thread since the first post. Looking forward to another this year. Happy New Year.
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It's all good. I hve to shoot my gun soon. Maybe because of all the rain every day my stock moved my barrel, I did check it after I got home w/a dollar bill and it was still floated. She did duck, so I just miss her. Had two guys w/me that PLUVIUSWAPITI set me up with. One with bino.'s and the other w/a range finder. Both said she moved real funney after the shot. I couldn't bleave I missed a big head like that. :bash:
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Hey guys if anybody has one of these hwy 6 tags for the Jan. hunt let me know. Now that I just hunted for the last 4 mos. I will be going through hunting withdrawls soon. Sorry we couldn't hook you up PA BEN.
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I think a friend of mine drew one of those tags. I'll have to check with him and see.
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I don't know if anybody can make me feel better but every time I think of the head shot I missed I get stressed out. I've never missed a head shot I've taken. Each one has been a good rest and up tp 250 yds. This 180 yd head shot has me upset. :bash:
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I know what you mean! It's like getting a big fish up to the boat and then watching it shake it's head and away he goes! That picture sticks with ya for a long time. Ya go to bed with that image and ya lay there all nite with that image and ya wake up with that image and on and on and on. :bash:Just think how much it would be haunting you if it was a big bull. It's enough to drive a guy to drinkin. :yike: Hang in there Ben.
