Post by: gtx6pack on June 15, 2011, 12:36:46 PM
I was able to draw a modern firearm quality elk hunt for the Dayton/162 unit. I had all 16 points by the way.
I am not as familiar with the area as I would like, in fact I have spent very little time there so I could use a push in the right direction. I am not new to elk hunting and I am willing to put in the time necessary but was hoping for some information on specific areas and/or cooperative land owners that would help me be successful.
Thank you in advance.
Post by: C-Money on June 15, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 15, 2011, 12:45:29 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 15, 2011, 12:55:36 PM
Post by: C-Money on June 15, 2011, 01:52:31 PM
There are several good bulls in the Tarpiscan Creek Drainage.......
Are you a part of the BMM? Good grief! :chuckle: :chuckle: Is the Tarpiscan at the intersection of HWY 12 and Blue Mountain Ave? :chuckle:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 15, 2011, 02:50:50 PM
There are several good bulls in the Tarpiscan Creek Drainage.......
Are you a part of the BMM? Good grief! :chuckle: :chuckle: Is the Tarpiscan at the intersection of HWY 12 and Blue Mountain Ave? :chuckle:
Shut up C-Money. I have seen those bulls. They're huge. Tarpiscan is the place to be... :tup:
Post by: Woodchuck on June 15, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
Post by: 10heiau on June 15, 2011, 03:30:21 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 15, 2011, 03:42:11 PM
Follow the people, everyone hunts up there, very few can shoot bulls, but everyone sees them and will tell you where they are.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 15, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 15, 2011, 03:48:27 PM
Post by: C-Money on June 15, 2011, 03:59:13 PM
Post by: gtx6pack on August 04, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
I've talked to a couple of folks who have hunted the area and they have given me at least one place to check out. I am going to head up there this weekend and start glassing. Probably spend at least one day a week up there until season starts.
If anyone would like to suggest locations or cooperative land owners I would appreciate the help.
Post by: Woodchuck on August 04, 2011, 05:32:32 PM
Post by: gtx6pack on August 04, 2011, 05:43:02 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on August 04, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on August 05, 2011, 06:26:58 AM
Post by: Chuethou_b18c5 on August 05, 2011, 06:55:07 AM
Post by: 724wd on August 05, 2011, 03:49:12 PM
great tag! many quality bulls to choose from....Yeah! i saw a 3 point AND a 4x5 MONSTER one year! :tup:
Post by: GoPlayOutside on August 05, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Great Tag! Get out and do some scoutin'.
Be Patient!
Congrats!!
Post by: PNWsportsman on August 05, 2011, 09:42:10 PM
I would start by walking the streets of downtown Dayton and asking for advice. I would imagine it wouldnt take long till you found a good point in the right direction.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on August 06, 2011, 08:25:25 AM
Post by: gtx6pack on August 07, 2011, 05:04:36 PM
Post by: gunnarnewt on August 08, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
Post by: gtx6pack on October 04, 2011, 07:10:26 PM
Anyone seeing anything in the Dayton area lately?
Post by: huntnnw on October 04, 2011, 07:18:37 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on October 04, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
Go to a bar in town and chat it up with locals..they usually spill there guts on places they saw huge bulls :chuckle:
That really does work, we've used the technique in MT.
Post by: deerslyr on October 04, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 04, 2011, 08:09:18 PM
Post by: huntnnw on October 04, 2011, 08:29:59 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on October 04, 2011, 08:57:21 PM
You, my friend, are a true "Tri Cities Hunter". The sportsmen of sportsmen. Welcome to the site. Good luck on the hunt... it's a decent tag. :tup:
What is that even supposed to mean and why do you say it to everyone?
Post by: huntnnw on October 04, 2011, 09:03:40 PM
Post by: Ranger91298 on October 04, 2011, 10:34:03 PM
Go to a bar in town and chat it up with locals..they usually spill there guts on places they saw huge bulls :chuckle:Heck I just might have to try that sometime... :tup:
Post by: toyman2 on October 04, 2011, 11:06:14 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 05, 2011, 01:46:08 AM
I drew this tag last year. My family has property to hunt in 162 and 163. This is my 26th year hunting in the area. I am very well connected, due to family owning a substantial portion of the area. Your best bet is the National Forest, as there will be plenty of hunters pushing the elk. In September the elk move to the lower foot hills in 163. When the raffle tag holders, Archery tag holders, and Muzzle loader tag holders, move in; the elk head out of the national forest area and move down into 163 along the Tucannon river. Once the modern firearm deer season opens, the elk will move back to 162 and the national forest. The issue is land access. Assuming we drew the same tag, your best hunting is the national forest. The lower foothills of 162, which eventually change to 163 is where the majority of the elk are at (Big Bulls). There are 7 landowners, who own the vast majority of the property. They all work together to fill their tags and will not let anyone hunt their land outside of themselves. The 2 primary land owners are Kelly Allen (Attorney out of Spokane) and Wilbur Eaton (Farmer). Kelly is an *censored*, whom brings in family from out of state and will absulutly not let anyone hunt. Wilbur Eaton will let you hunt the following Wednesday after the season opens, but only the lower portion of his property. It is primarly made up of deer and occasionally a few Cow Elk will pass thru. It is not worth hunting. There are 5 other land owners, but they only own bits and peices of land in the lower section.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 05, 2011, 01:56:29 AM
Post by: coachcw on October 05, 2011, 06:45:13 AM
Post by: ThePascoKid on October 05, 2011, 07:00:00 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on October 05, 2011, 07:03:47 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on October 05, 2011, 07:34:28 AM
That doesnt work here in Dayton.
Last time I drove outta Dayton I looked into a certain bar... it was packed (the bar area) and it was 1pm on a Wednesday...
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 05, 2011, 08:01:44 AM
Post by: hunter-4-life on October 05, 2011, 08:20:05 AM
Post by: ipkus on October 05, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
...Maximus gave you some good info, but as with everything on the internet, keep your salt shaker handy.
This is not a dig at you Maximus, good on you for sharing info with a fellow hunter. But, anybody that thinks 'the majority of elk', or the majority of big bulls in the Dayton unit are ever concentrated down around the Patit either doesn't own optics, doesn't know how to use them, or they don't know where the unit boundaries are.
The whole unit is great elk country...and there are elk (and yes, big bulls) all over it.
Put your time in, and be smart about it. Glass, glass, glass. Pay attention to the vehicles you are seeing, and where you are seeing them. There is a reason you see the same Toyota pickup parked in the same spot three different trips.
Besides, the whole public/private issue is pretty much moot at this point thanks to the tag split...
Good luck!
Post by: bucklucky on October 05, 2011, 10:43:27 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on October 05, 2011, 10:54:07 AM
There is a reason you see the same Toyota pickup parked in the same spot three different trips.
Parked at the county courthouse?? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bucklucky on October 05, 2011, 10:55:07 AM
There is a reason you see the same Toyota pickup parked in the same spot three different trips.
Parked at the county courthouse?? :chuckle: :chuckle:
:lol4: :lol4:
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on October 05, 2011, 02:15:32 PM
White toyota??Damn you guys following me around again! :chuckle: I guess I need to get the rattle cans out tonight and paint it up another color for tomorrow. :)
Post by: gtx6pack on October 05, 2011, 02:58:05 PM
PM sent GTX- BTW- We need to see a picture of this GTX 6 pack!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:
A few folks have asked so here is a picture (never posted a picture so hopefully it comes through). I also have a '71 Demon, '71 Satellite Sebring Plus, '70 Sport Satellite, '69 Coronet 500 and '69 Barracuda as well.
Post by: gtx6pack on October 05, 2011, 03:00:59 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 05, 2011, 03:17:35 PM
Post by: whacker1 on October 05, 2011, 03:33:37 PM
Post by: dscubame on October 05, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
Go to a bar in town and chat it up with locals..they usually spill there guts on places they saw huge bulls :chuckle:
That really does work, we've used the technique in MT.
Used that technique at the tavern in Waitsburg a few years back ended up going home with a cow the next morning. The guy we were chatting up even called his farmer buddy down to draw us a map. Wheat farmer on top of the breaks.
Post by: MtnMuley on October 05, 2011, 03:49:36 PM
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Used that technique at the tavern in Waitsburg a few years back ended up going home with a cow the next morning.
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Damn, I can't believe you waited until the next morning to go home with her. Especially if she was a cow...... :chuckle:
Post by: SniperDanWA on October 05, 2011, 05:56:54 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 05, 2011, 06:15:40 PM
Go to a bar in town and chat it up with locals..they usually spill there guts on places they saw huge bulls :chuckle:
That really does work, we've used the technique in MT.
There's good people around :brew:
Used that technique at the tavern in Waitsburg a few years back ended up going home with a cow the next morning. The guy we were chatting up even called his farmer buddy down to draw us a map. Wheat farmer on top of the breaks.
Post by: dscubame on October 05, 2011, 06:32:43 PM
Used that technique at the tavern in Waitsburg a few years back ended up going home with a cow the next morning.
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:chuckle: :chuckle:
Damn, I can't believe you waited until the next morning to go home with her. Especially if she was a cow...... :chuckle:
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Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 05, 2011, 07:34:10 PM
White toyota??
Or a red one...LOL
Post by: TheHunt on October 05, 2011, 07:57:12 PM
I'll take you to the elk if you drive!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: Only one condition- we have to dress up like the Dukes! :)
I am assuming one of you will be dressing up as Daisy Duke. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: HntnFsh on October 06, 2011, 06:00:19 AM
Thanks to all for the encouragement and information on the elk hunt. I need to find where some of the locations you are talking about are and take a look. Also, time is getting very short for me because I leave for an Idaho elk hunt this weekend and won't be back until a few days prior to this hunt. Wish I hadn't chose this year to buy my first Idaho tag :bash:
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 06, 2011, 07:07:19 AM
har har... I figured on us being Bo and Luke- but if you have anyone that can pull of a decent Daisy impersonation she is welcome to tag along! :rolleyes:I'll take you to the elk if you drive!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: Only one condition- we have to dress up like the Dukes! :)
I am assuming one of you will be dressing up as Daisy Duke. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 06, 2011, 07:34:42 AM
har har... I figured on us being Bo and Luke- but if you have anyone that can pull of a decent Daisy impersonation she is welcome to tag along! :rolleyes:I'll take you to the elk if you drive!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: Only one condition- we have to dress up like the Dukes! :)
I am assuming one of you will be dressing up as Daisy Duke. :chuckle: :chuckle:
She? You're not real familiar with that area, huh? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Huntboy on October 06, 2011, 08:00:00 AM
Not to get off the hunt, but sweet car. I agree, post the other pics now.:yeah:
Post by: gtx6pack on October 06, 2011, 08:20:59 AM
I'll call my brother in law today and see if he would be willing to talk to you.He was over there last weekend and saw some mashers.Sent me some cell phone pics of a couple brutes.Thanks to all for the encouragement and information on the elk hunt. I need to find where some of the locations you are talking about are and take a look. Also, time is getting very short for me because I leave for an Idaho elk hunt this weekend and won't be back until a few days prior to this hunt. Wish I hadn't chose this year to buy my first Idaho tag :bash:
I would definitely appreciate that. Thank you.
Post by: gtx6pack on October 06, 2011, 08:28:42 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 06, 2011, 08:45:51 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 06, 2011, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: TheHunt on October 06, 2011, 09:12:04 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 06, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
Post by: 400out on October 06, 2011, 05:01:19 PM
My dad wouldnt let me buy a 70 sattelite back in 93 for 1,500. I still want to kick him in the ars for that, ended up with a POS 69 Bug instead :bash: I like them sattelites and roadrunners.:chuckle: :chuckle: Hey my dad did the same thing to me! Had a chance to buy 67 chevelle ss 4 speed matching numbers with spare 327 for 1200 and he said "they were going down in value" and wouldn't let me sell my 84 camero to buy it! :bash: :bash: Yeah that car only goes for about 40,000 now! Hope you get your bull! Just stay strong and possitive it will happen but it will test you! Trust me I did it last year, all by myself! except the pack :chuckle:
Post by: SniperDanWA on October 06, 2011, 06:28:38 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 06, 2011, 08:22:37 PM
Ummm...
...Maximus gave you some good info, but as with everything on the internet, keep your salt shaker handy.
This is not a dig at you Maximus, good on you for sharing info with a fellow hunter. But, anybody that thinks 'the majority of elk', or the majority of big bulls in the Dayton unit are ever concentrated down around the Patit either doesn't own optics, doesn't know how to use them, or they don't know where the unit boundaries are.
The whole unit is great elk country...and there are elk (and yes, big bulls) all over it.
Put your time in, and be smart about it. Glass, glass, glass. Pay attention to the vehicles you are seeing, and where you are seeing them. There is a reason you see the same Toyota pickup parked in the same spot three different trips.
Besides, the whole public/private issue is pretty much moot at this point thanks to the tag split...
Good luck!
One thing I have learned in the 5 days I have been on this site; everyone on here seems to know everything about everything. They also read into people's posts and draw conclusions and pick them apart.
Read what I posted. The national forests, which makes up a good portion of 162 is open. The elk that get pushed out into the lower foothills are hard to access. Call the game department if you don't beleive me and ask how successful they have been getting land open. Call Scott Raisley (Land Access Manager) specifically and ask him how many landowners are registered with the game department to allow access to hunters. Last year it was 6, and only 2 of them owned a fair amount of hunting ground. Just because you see elk all over the game unit, does not mean you can hunt them.
Dan Agnew spent a huge amount of money on the Governors tag and hired a team of people to try and track down the bull I refered to in the area. To date he has not been shot, and still sits right off the side of the North Patit RD in a posted no hunting area.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 06, 2011, 08:28:37 PM
What would I know? I only have family that owns 56,000 acress of property between the 4 of them, which includes 157 windmills. Not to mention they lease property in the Blue Mtn.s for their cattle to feed. Your right; just go shoot the first elk you see with your high powered optics. Nobody will care. Sorry not trying to dig at you.
Post by: dscubame on October 06, 2011, 09:17:30 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 06, 2011, 09:19:01 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 06, 2011, 09:21:24 PM
Post by: washingtonmuley on October 06, 2011, 09:23:30 PM
I think it is great that you are giving a fellow hunter insight to the area.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 06, 2011, 10:50:57 PM
Maximus Are you a broughton?
wink wink
Post by: brianmtsinc on October 06, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 06, 2011, 11:09:43 PM
Post by: brianmtsinc on October 06, 2011, 11:20:42 PM
I couldnt agree more!
It is one of the things I love about this site - not everyone - but MANY are willing to help each other out - especially on the special permit draws. I know if/when someone needs help in the areas I know, I will be doing what I can to help. I think it is called "karma" :)
:twocents:
Post by: bucklucky on October 06, 2011, 11:25:36 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 07, 2011, 07:09:08 AM
Sometimes info like that is best given via PM . I cant count how much info I have given out over the years on here and have helped quite a few , but the info I give is PMed , not put out to where everyone can read it.
:yeah:
It's not so much the bull tag holders that are crowding the area but everyone else who wants to see and take video or pictures of a big bull.
I wish everyone with a tag the best of luck and I've helped pretty much everybody that has asked but not in the wide open for everyone to see.
Post by: bucklucky on October 07, 2011, 07:58:27 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on October 07, 2011, 09:29:51 AM
People have to understand that it does not matter if I help this guy out and post specifics. This is a trophy bull area, which someone would have to apply for a longtime (avg 11 points) before they get drawn, unless you are incredibly lucky. The specifics I posted are in regards to a fair part of the area being "Posted No Hunting" with the exception of the national forest. It is not breaking news that the Blue Mtns produce trophy bull elk. Big deal! you still have to apply, get drawn (rare), then go shoot one. They only give out 20 modern firearm tags and a handful for the remaining weapon choices. It not like eveyone that reads this is going to run out and hunt the area. YOU CAN'T, it is a trophy area unless you want to shoot spikes or cows. If a guy gets drawn and needs help, we should try and help him full fill his longtime wait and dream. We should be happy if he fills one. Alot of people that get drawn don't even fill their tag. Whats the point of this website if we are not helping eachother out? If we are not helping eachother, then its just a bunch of people telling old hunting stories and bragging about what they harvested this year. Where is the value in that?
Couldnt agree more! Glad you joned the board.Hope you stick around.Lot of good people on here!
Post by: ipkus on October 07, 2011, 03:05:24 PM
The lower foothills of 162, which eventually change to 163 is where the majority of the elk are at (Big Bulls).
Again, most of the elk are in the foothills of 162 between the North Patit RD and the South Patit RD, but you cannot acce*censored* it (posted).
Read what you posted? Ok, this is what you posted. It is not true, so I provided the guy a little more advice.
Why get your panties in such a bunch? I specified at the beginning that it wasn't anything personal against you, and commended you for helping the guy out. I never claimed to be a know it all, and in fact will state right now, "I don't know anywhere close to 'it all'".
The picture that was painted for this guy was that permission on private ground was important for his ability to harvest a big bull, and that he had little chance of getting said permission. All I added was that there are big bulls on the NF ground during his season, and with some legwork he could find one. My bad.
Since you've pointed out that you are a member of the Broughton family, maybe you could shed some light for us as to why WDFW essentially split the 'Dayton' tags in half and created the 'Ten Ten' special draw (essentially only valid on private property)with those tags?
Post by: Caseyd on October 07, 2011, 03:21:44 PM
The lower foothills of 162, which eventually change to 163 is where the majority of the elk are at (Big Bulls).Again, most of the elk are in the foothills of 162 between the North Patit RD and the South Patit RD, but you cannot acce*censored* it (posted).
Read what you posted? Ok, this is what you posted. It is not true, so I provided the guy a little more advice.
Why get your panties in such a bunch? I specified at the beginning that it wasn't anything personal against you, and commended you for helping the guy out. I never claimed to be a know it all, and in fact will state right now, "I don't know anywhere close to 'it all'".
The picture that was painted for this guy was that permission on private ground was important for his ability to harvest a big bull, and that he had little chance of getting said permission. All I added was that there are big bulls on the NF ground during his season, and with some legwork he could find one. My bad.
Since you've pointed out that you are a member of the Broughton family, maybe you could shed some light for us as to why WDFW essentially split the 'Dayton' tags in half and created the 'Ten Ten' special draw (essentially only valid on private property)with those tags?
To keep the population for locals :stirthepot:
Post by: Cascade on October 07, 2011, 03:43:37 PM
The lower foothills of 162, which eventually change to 163 is where the majority of the elk are at (Big Bulls).Again, most of the elk are in the foothills of 162 between the North Patit RD and the South Patit RD, but you cannot acce*censored* it (posted).
Read what you posted? Ok, this is what you posted. It is not true, so I provided the guy a little more advice.
Why get your panties in such a bunch? I specified at the beginning that it wasn't anything personal against you, and commended you for helping the guy out. I never claimed to be a know it all, and in fact will state right now, "I don't know anywhere close to 'it all'".
The picture that was painted for this guy was that permission on private ground was important for his ability to harvest a big bull, and that he had little chance of getting said permission. All I added was that there are big bulls on the NF ground during his season, and with some legwork he could find one. My bad.
Since you've pointed out that you are a member of the Broughton family, maybe you could shed some light for us as to why WDFW essentially split the 'Dayton' tags in half and created the 'Ten Ten' special draw (essentially only valid on private property)with those tags?
Hopefully, it was for me to have good access when I get drawn! ;)
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 07, 2011, 04:21:02 PM
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Since you've pointed out that you are a member of the Broughton family, maybe you could shed some light for us as to why WDFW essentially split the 'Dayton' tags in half and created the 'Ten Ten' special draw (essentially only valid on private property)with those tags?
I think I just answered this question in my various posts. Both Dayton 162 and 163 are heavily posted during hunting season. If you draw a special permit, like the member did that started this forum (trophy bull tag etc); in many cases it will require you to get written permission. In this case of our fellow member within the forum, who was lucky enough to draw a bull tag; he will likely want to scout the area, get permission etc. because so much of 162 is posted. Take the Broughton Land and Cattle company for example. Years ago if you came to the office in Dayton and spoke with Dave you could get written permission to hunt the land. About 11 years ago was the cut off. Anybody, who did not register that season, even if they had hunted the land in the past, was no longer permitted to hunt on the land.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 07, 2011, 05:03:52 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 07, 2011, 05:17:38 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 07, 2011, 05:27:29 PM
Post by: ThePascoKid on October 07, 2011, 05:43:29 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 07, 2011, 05:54:55 PM
Post by: TheHunt on October 07, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
Post by: WenHunter on October 07, 2011, 06:03:35 PM
If someone applies for a area they know nothing about, then find out that it is mostly private with written permission required to access, then they have nobody to blame but themselves. :twocents:
:yeah:
Plus on another note, I appreciate the first guy that posted asking for information. WHat I mean by that is atleast he had guts enough to ask a hard question about a hunting area. Where most people would just hide in the shadows and and lurk atleast he signed up for the site and hopefully contributes to other peoples hunts like he is getting. That being said I do agree that Maximus has given some great and invaluable information and if it were me I would have given in a PM. But either way nice job Maximus and to the first poster.
Post by: huntnphool on October 07, 2011, 06:08:31 PM
And now we come full circle with helping people because we know what we know for public access. How many pages did it take? :chuckle:
I help people with info all the time if its public access, if you apply for a area thats private and then get upset that you can't gain access.... well then thats on you and you alone.
Post by: gaddy on October 07, 2011, 06:20:28 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 07, 2011, 06:24:06 PM
And now we come full circle with helping people because we know what we know for public access. How many pages did it take? :chuckle:
I must have missed it??
Post by: 724wd on October 07, 2011, 10:14:38 PM
Isn't that what the little "c" code in hunt notes is for? It basically tells you its mostly private land & if you cannot secure access, dont bother ?
:tup: yup!
Post by: NoBark on October 08, 2011, 05:10:17 PM
Post by: gtx6pack on October 08, 2011, 08:52:04 PM
If the area gets heavy snow, then the elk will get pushed down into lower 162 and 163 (foothills). If that is the case, then you have lots of property to hunt, which does not require written permission etc. Again, most of the elk are in the foothills of 162 between the North Patit RD and the South Patit RD, but you cannot acce*censored* it (posted). You can drive thru it and hunt the northeast side of the area (state land), which will eventually take you in to the national forest. There is a 8 x 7 in the area, which Dan Agnew was trying to kill last year. It is still around; known as "BUBBA". It is known to be one of the largest bulls in the Blue Mtns (top 1% in Washington State-400 Class Bull). Call the game department and ask to speak with Scott Raisley (land access manager). Scott helped me last year. If it wasnt for him, then I would have been screwed. Scott can put you on a bull. He took the time to drive around and show me different pocket areas to access and connected me with land owners. All of the property my family has is in 163 (small part of 162), which is great for a Sept hunt. Hope that helps you fill your tag!
Really appreciate your help. I did contact Scott (email) a couple of months ago but he just told me to try Chase Mnt or Griffin Peak area, nothing more than that. I am a little worried right now, I've only seen elk once (cows/spikes) and I have been up there quite a few times. In fact, I have seen very little sign. I've tried the Chase Mnt area, Newby and Robinette. I haven't been hiking down to the bottoms and that may be why I am not seeing anything since it's been so hot. Not sure what the deer hunters will end up doing to them. Crossing my fingers.
I am heading to Idaho tomorrow morning (Dworshak Reservoir area) for a week long elk hunt. Unfortunately I chose this year to buy my first Idaho tag (same year I get drawn for 162). I will check back in here late next weekend.
Thanks again for everyone's help.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 08, 2011, 10:14:27 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 09, 2011, 12:20:56 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 09, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
Last thing I have to say to all special tag holders. Go get em, have fun, relax and enjoy.....
Post by: jager on October 09, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 09, 2011, 07:01:39 PM
I am not trying to call you out. The info you are giving might be somewhat ligit but very far from the way it really is. I have hunted the blues now for 15 years and have done fairly well for myself as one of the recent threads have shown but to say that all the big bulls worth shooting are on private land is BS.. Last year when I was drawn for my big bull tag I passed many bulls And I mean many...... and only one went on to private property... I saw 3 bulls that were well over 400 class I just could not close the deal. I have many friends on here some who live there basically so to say everything is on private is crap...
I never said that only private lands had big bulls. I said alot of the land is private, which has big bulls. I also said his best option was to HUNT THE NATIONAL FOREST. I further said I would not waste my points on applying if I did not have access to private land. The national forests are good to hunt, but you have to compete with alot of hunters and in some cases have horses, pack mules, etc. Again..another member reading into the posts and picking them apart. You might want to go back and read every posts in the thread. I'm done with this site. Everyone on hear acts like they KNOW EVERYTHING! Good luck hunting everyone.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 09, 2011, 07:15:25 PM
My apologies for ruffling your feathers..
Post by: 400out on October 09, 2011, 07:32:42 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 09, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
Post by: yelp on October 10, 2011, 07:43:06 AM
I think the main point with hunting this unit is that it isn't a slam dunk. My success comes from talking to landowners and spending time down there period. Many hunters who get drawn in this unit have the expectation that they will see lots of bulls. It depends on the time of year. Archery and Muzzy permits have the odds in seeing bulls without lots of hunting pressure pushing elk around like rifle deer season does. These elk can move several miles and end up in different drainages and on different properties.
I for one know that the age structure of the bulls and the quality of the habitat is excellent in many of the Blue Mountain GMU's. Any permittee should feel very fortunate and should enjoy the experience.
I for one cherish the Blues. My ancestors help bring elk years ago. They brought them by train from Yellowstone, quarentined them in Pomeroy and push them with horses into the Wenaha. I have postcards of my family helping establish elk in the the Blues.
Enjoy the hunt, spend as much time in the blues as you can, talk with as many hunters and landowners as you can. Many of us don't have the time like we would want and are forced to ask for advice. This forum is a perfect example. Hunters however must realize to not have an expectation of recieving benefits from someone elses hard work. Some of us are very giving and are very willing to help, others protect what they have and are reluctant to share too much. The bottom line is we all care about this resource and we should educate eachother as hunters. We have lots of "experts" out there and I laugh at some of the advice given. All in all most advice is good advice. Good luck to all and enjoy the Blues..I mean the Colockum... :chuckle: :chuckle: :twocents:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 10, 2011, 11:00:01 AM
I have hunted on Kelly Allens and Wilbur Eaton's property. They were civil to me and very nice. I also know Scott very well and have hunted with him on several occasions.
I think the main point with hunting this unit is that it isn't a slam dunk. My success comes from talking to landowners and spending time down there period. Many hunters who get drawn in this unit have the expectation that they will see lots of bulls. It depends on the time of year. Archery and Muzzy permits have the odds in seeing bulls without lots of hunting pressure pushing elk around like rifle deer season does. These elk can move several miles and end up in different drainages and on different properties.
I for one know that the age structure of the bulls and the quality of the habitat is excellent in many of the Blue Mountain GMU's. Any permittee should feel very fortunate and should enjoy the experience.
I for one cherish the Blues. My ancestors help bring elk years ago. They brought them by train from Yellowstone, quarentined them in Pomeroy and push them with horses into the Wenaha. I have postcards of my family helping establish elk in the the Blues.
Enjoy the hunt, spend as much time in the blues as you can, talk with as many hunters and landowners as you can. Many of us don't have the time like we would want and are forced to ask for advice. This forum is a perfect example. Hunters however must realize to not have an expectation of recieving benefits from someone elses hard work. Some of us are very giving and are very willing to help, others protect what they have and are reluctant to share too much. The bottom line is we all care about this resource and we should educate eachother as hunters. We have lots of "experts" out there and I laugh at some of the advice given. All in all most advice is good advice. Good luck to all and enjoy the Blues..I mean the Colockum... :chuckle: :chuckle: :twocents:
What a small world. My 2nd ex wife is related to Wilbur on her mother's side. Really nice family there except for my ex and her mother.
Post by: ipkus on October 10, 2011, 06:26:27 PM
First of all, thank you for answering the question about the creation of 'Ten Ten' honestly. Most people would not have the stones to do so.
With that said, it is patently ridiculous that WDFW did it. They took almost half the tags that ALL of us were eligible to draw (that would be the thousands that apply for them every year), and created a new 'tag' that only appeals to a few hundred who actually have access to private ground. They took OUR draw odds and made them twice as bad, and created a trophy bull tag 'unit', so to speak, for a few hundred of the priviledged...and their draw odds are extremely easier than any of us face. And for what? In exchange for this 'favor', these landowners STILL don't let tag holders outside their 'circle' access to their ground. F'ing brilliant...
I never said that only private lands had big bulls. I said alot of the land is private, which has big bulls. I also said his best option was to HUNT THE NATIONAL FOREST. I further said I would not waste my points on applying if I did not have access to private land. The national forests are good to hunt, but you have to compete with alot of hunters and in some cases have horses, pack mules, etc. Again..another member reading into the posts and picking them apart. You might want to go back and read every posts in the thread. I'm done with this site. Everyone on hear acts like they KNOW EVERYTHING! Good luck hunting everyone.
Actually, as I quoted you earlier, and you've been implying ever since, you did say most of the elk and big bulls were on private ground, or near it in a very specific area.
To your credit, you have said he should hunt the National Forest several times...however, you've only done so after you've repeatedly pointed out that he has a snowball's chance of getting permission to hunt any of the private ground. Not exactly the most helpful info...
And you're right; you did say you wouldn't waste your points applying if you didn't have access to private land. Well, that is laughable, but certainly your choice. For most of us, having to deal with other hunters, and maybe even having to put some meat on our back or in panyards is just part of the gig...and we still do it with a smile on our face. I mean, really, 20 other tag holders for the first 5 days of a hunt spread across a hundred square miles is tough to deal with? The fact that you see the Dayton unit as 'not worth your points' if you have to hunt public ground demonstrates a general lack of...the big picture.
As for you being done with the site, I can't say I blame you. But, please don't leave just because everyone thinks they KNOW EVERYTHING; the only person that has come off that way in this thread is you.
Bye. :hello:
Post by: huntnphool on October 10, 2011, 06:55:44 PM
With that said, it is patently ridiculous that WDFW did it. They took almost half the tags that ALL of us were eligible to draw (that would be the thousands that apply for them every year), and created a new 'tag' that only appeals to a few hundred who actually have access to private ground
And you think it was an accident? ;)
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 10, 2011, 06:58:59 PM
gtx6pack, you mentioned a few areas earlier, if you hunt those areas, you'll have a good hunt.
congrats on the tag and have fun! :)
Post by: huntnphool on October 10, 2011, 07:52:22 PM
Actually, they get as much or more pressure down low than they do up high, especially from a certain landowner that shoots the herd all summer long with a 12 guage.
:yike:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on October 10, 2011, 08:07:58 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 10, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 10, 2011, 10:00:31 PM
PM sent GTX- BTW- We need to see a picture of this GTX 6 pack!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:
A few folks have asked so here is a picture (never posted a picture so hopefully it comes through). I also have a '71 Demon, '71 Satellite Sebring Plus, '70 Sport Satellite, '69 Coronet 500 and '69 Barracuda as well.
Dude, don't want to know your hunting areas, just want to drive your cars!
Post by: huntnphool on October 10, 2011, 10:21:36 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 11, 2011, 06:04:23 AM
This is my pack mule
yep that's an ...
oh I guess I better not start with the "ass" jokes :chuckle:
are you going to be up this way soon Ross?
If so, maybe this year you won't be so dedicated to your hunt and you can come by and have a drink.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 11, 2011, 07:29:21 PM
Post by: yelp on October 11, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
This is my pack mule
yep that's an ...
oh I guess I better not start with the "ass" jokes :chuckle:
are you going to be up this way soon Ross?
If so, maybe this year you won't be so dedicated to your hunt and you can come by and have a drink.
me too!
Post by: 400out on October 11, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Post by: gtx6pack on October 14, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Now on to the priority, getting an elk in Dayton. My dad went up to Newby and Skyline this week to look around while I was gone. Good looking country but still not seeing elk. Of course he wasn't beating the bushes, just walking out on ridge lines.
Just wanted to say thanks to ALL that have helped. There have been differing opinions from some but that is exactly the diversity that I was looking for.
Please pass on any last minute info that may help me, I leave Friday. I will report success or not after I get back.
Again, I valued ALL responses on this post.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 17, 2011, 06:18:13 PM
Post by: toyman2 on October 18, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
There has been alot of people see that bull, he has got some kind of limp, nobody seems to no why but he has been injured sometime or another.
I have heard he would be a nice bull to have though.
Post by: Maximus4252626 on October 18, 2011, 03:31:08 PM
The Dayton unit only goes to HWY 12, also so does the marengo unit, also the new 1010 unit is just the lower portions of both of those units.
There has been alot of people see that bull, he has got some kind of limp, nobody seems to no why but he has been injured sometime or another.
I have heard he would be a nice bull to have though.
Thats what I thought.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on November 21, 2011, 01:24:12 PM
Post by: jager on November 21, 2011, 01:26:10 PM