Quality elk hunt- Dayton

[Maximus4252626]

I am not trying to call you out. The info you are giving might be somewhat ligit but very far from the way it really is. I have hunted the blues now for 15 years and have done fairly well for myself as one of the recent threads have shown but to say that all the big bulls worth shooting are on private land is BS..  Last year when I was drawn for my big bull tag I passed many bulls And I mean many...... and only one went on to private property... I saw 3 bulls that were well over 400 class I just could not close the deal. I have many friends on here some who live there basically so to say everything is on private is crap...

I never said that only private lands had big bulls. I said alot of the land is private, which has big bulls. I also said his best option was to HUNT THE NATIONAL FOREST. I further said I would not waste my points on applying if I did not have access to private land. The national forests are good to hunt, but you have to compete with alot of hunters and in some cases have horses, pack mules, etc. Again..another member reading into the posts and picking them apart. You might want to go back and read every posts in the thread. I'm done with this site. Everyone on hear acts like they KNOW EVERYTHING! Good luck hunting everyone.

[rosscrazyelk]

Sorry to upset you..  Don't let what I have to say make you leave this site. There are alot of great people on here. I was just trying to show a different opinion...  I do not disagree with you just saying there are other options.
My apologies for ruffling your feathers..

[400out]

 

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Just got off the phone with an oldtimmer here in town. That is a great tag. Its all about scoutin!!!!Keep us up to date. Cant wait to here the story!!

[yelp]

I have hunted on Kelly Allens and Wilbur Eaton's property.  They were civil to me and very nice.  I also know Scott very well and have hunted with him on several occasions. 

I think the main point with hunting this unit is that it isn't a slam dunk.  My success comes from talking to landowners and spending time down there period.  Many hunters who get drawn in this unit have the expectation that they will see lots of bulls.  It depends on the time of year.  Archery and Muzzy permits have the odds in seeing bulls without lots of hunting pressure pushing elk around like rifle deer season does.  These elk can move several miles and end up in different drainages and on different properties. 

I for one know that the age structure of the bulls and the quality of the habitat is excellent in many of the Blue Mountain GMU's.  Any permittee should feel very fortunate and should enjoy the experience.   

I for one cherish the Blues.  My ancestors help bring elk years ago.  They brought them by train from Yellowstone, quarentined them in Pomeroy and push them with horses into the Wenaha.  I have postcards of my family helping establish elk in the the Blues. 

Enjoy the hunt, spend as much time in the blues as you can, talk with as many hunters and landowners as you can.  Many of us don't have the time like we would want and are forced to ask for advice.  This forum is a perfect example.  Hunters however must realize to not have an expectation of recieving benefits from someone elses hard work.  Some of us are very giving and are very willing to help, others protect what they have and are reluctant to share too much.  The bottom line is we all care about this resource and we should educate eachother as hunters.  We have lots of "experts" out there and I laugh at some of the advice given.  All in all most advice is good advice.  Good luck to all and enjoy the Blues..I mean the Colockum...  

[pianoman9701]

I have hunted on Kelly Allens and Wilbur Eaton's property.  They were civil to me and very nice.  I also know Scott very well and have hunted with him on several occasions. 

I think the main point with hunting this unit is that it isn't a slam dunk.  My success comes from talking to landowners and spending time down there period.  Many hunters who get drawn in this unit have the expectation that they will see lots of bulls.  It depends on the time of year.  Archery and Muzzy permits have the odds in seeing bulls without lots of hunting pressure pushing elk around like rifle deer season does.  These elk can move several miles and end up in different drainages and on different properties. 

I for one know that the age structure of the bulls and the quality of the habitat is excellent in many of the Blue Mountain GMU's.  Any permittee should feel very fortunate and should enjoy the experience.   

I for one cherish the Blues.  My ancestors help bring elk years ago.  They brought them by train from Yellowstone, quarentined them in Pomeroy and push them with horses into the Wenaha.  I have postcards of my family helping establish elk in the the Blues. 

Enjoy the hunt, spend as much time in the blues as you can, talk with as many hunters and landowners as you can.  Many of us don't have the time like we would want and are forced to ask for advice.  This forum is a perfect example.  Hunters however must realize to not have an expectation of recieving benefits from someone elses hard work.  Some of us are very giving and are very willing to help, others protect what they have and are reluctant to share too much.  The bottom line is we all care about this resource and we should educate eachother as hunters.  We have lots of "experts" out there and I laugh at some of the advice given.  All in all most advice is good advice.  Good luck to all and enjoy the Blues..I mean the Colockum...  

What a small world. My 2nd ex wife is related to Wilbur on her mother's side. Really nice family there except for my ex and her mother.

[ipkus]

Maximus-

First of all, thank you for answering the question about the creation of 'Ten Ten' honestly.  Most people would not have the stones to do so. 

With that said, it is patently ridiculous that WDFW did it.  They took almost half the tags that ALL of us were eligible to draw (that would be the thousands that apply for them every year), and created a new 'tag' that only appeals to a few hundred who actually have access to private ground.  They took OUR draw odds and made them twice as bad, and created a trophy bull tag 'unit', so to speak, for a few hundred of the priviledged...and their draw odds are extremely easier than any of us face.  And for what?  In exchange for this 'favor', these landowners STILL don't let tag holders outside their 'circle' access to their ground.  F'ing brilliant...

I never said that only private lands had big bulls. I said alot of the land is private, which has big bulls. I also said his best option was to HUNT THE NATIONAL FOREST. I further said I would not waste my points on applying if I did not have access to private land. The national forests are good to hunt, but you have to compete with alot of hunters and in some cases have horses, pack mules, etc. Again..another member reading into the posts and picking them apart. You might want to go back and read every posts in the thread. I'm done with this site. Everyone on hear acts like they KNOW EVERYTHING! Good luck hunting everyone.

Actually, as I quoted you earlier, and you've been implying ever since, you did say most of the elk and big bulls were on private ground, or near it in a very specific area. 

To your credit, you have said he should hunt the National Forest several times...however, you've only done so after you've repeatedly pointed out that he has a snowball's chance of getting permission to hunt any of the private ground.  Not exactly the most helpful info...

And you're right; you did say you wouldn't waste your points applying if you didn't have access to private land.  Well, that is laughable, but certainly your choice.  For most of us, having to deal with other hunters, and maybe even having to put some meat on our back or in panyards is just part of the gig...and we still do it with a smile on our face.  I mean, really, 20 other tag holders for the first 5 days of a hunt spread across a hundred square miles is tough to deal with?  The fact that you see the Dayton unit as 'not worth your points' if you have to hunt public ground demonstrates a general lack of...the big picture.

As for you being done with the site, I can't say I blame you.  But, please don't leave just because everyone thinks they KNOW EVERYTHING;  the only person that has come off that way in this thread is you.

Bye.       

[huntnphool]

With that said, it is patently ridiculous that WDFW did it.  They took almost half the tags that ALL of us were eligible to draw (that would be the thousands that apply for them every year), and created a new 'tag' that only appeals to a few hundred who actually have access to private ground

 And you think it was an accident?

[BLUEBULLS]

IMO, the number of TenTen permits is very relevant to the number of Dayton tag holders that hunted this portion of the unit in the past. I see it as a good deal because it spreads out the quality apps pool. With only 2 choices, it might actually help odds on other hunts. As far as the biggest bulls being on private... they are where they are. There are big bulls on private, there are big bulls on public. Where a bull finds escapement long enough to get big up there is where he will live. I haven't noticed too many bulls that will shift their territory much due to pressure. They will follow the cows during the rut and seek seclusion afterwards but they don't necessarily seek the lower private land to avoid people. Actually, they get as much or more pressure down low than they do up high, especially from a certain landowner that shoots the herd all summer long with a 12 guage.


gtx6pack, you mentioned a few areas earlier, if you hunt those areas, you'll have a good hunt.

congrats on the tag and have fun!

[huntnphool]

Actually, they get as much or more pressure down low than they do up high, especially from a certain landowner that shoots the herd all summer long with a 12 guage.

 

[Mr Mykiss]

So he says...

[rosscrazyelk]

This is my pack mule

[Boss .300 winmag]

PM sent GTX- BTW- We need to see a picture of this GTX 6 pack!!!   

A few folks have asked so here is a picture (never posted a picture so hopefully it comes through). I also have a '71 Demon, '71 Satellite Sebring Plus, '70 Sport Satellite, '69 Coronet 500 and '69 Barracuda as well.

Dude, don't want to know your hunting areas, just want to drive your cars!

[huntnphool]

 No kidding!

[BLUEBULLS]

This is my pack mule

yep that's an ...

oh I guess I better not start with the "ass" jokes

are you going to be up this way soon Ross?

If so, maybe this year you won't be so dedicated to your hunt and you can come by and have a drink.