Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Post by: The100Road on June 22, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 09:27:23 PM
Post by: The100Road on June 22, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 09:31:38 PM
Post by: nwhunter on June 22, 2011, 09:49:34 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 10:03:53 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on June 22, 2011, 10:09:45 PM
Best advice for that unit is get in shape, like sheep hunting shape! Second best advice is if you are really going to hunt the good parts of that unit and you don't have pack animals you better get a hold of mtcook on here(Western Life Outfitters) unless you are a Cameron Hanes type of guy and I think even he would want pack animals in there. Its a great area with plenty of good bulls just really rugged and roadless. Congrats on the tag. nwhunter
No truer words have been spoken. TOUGH HUNTING!! I'd give my left testy for that tag, but I have horses and mules ready to go, Get in High School shape, no joke :) :)
Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 10:18:33 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 22, 2011, 10:28:13 PM
Best advice for that unit is get in shape, like sheep hunting shape! Second best advice is if you are really going to hunt the good parts of that unit and you don't have pack animals you better get a hold of mtcook on here(Western Life Outfitters) unless you are a Cameron Hanes type of guy and I think even he would want pack animals in there. Its a great area with plenty of good bulls just really rugged and roadless. Congrats on the tag. nwhunter
No truer words have been spoken. TOUGH HUNTING!! I'd give my left testy for that tag, but I have horses and mules ready to go, Get in High School shape, no joke :) :)
I dont think he understands what he is getting himself into :chuckle: Seriousely think about the horses, you'll be glad you did!! Mtcook is the man.
Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 10:33:14 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on June 22, 2011, 10:35:35 PM
Your friends that have horses should become your best friends real quick.
IMO, it's the most difficult to hunt, difficult to access elk country in this state BY FAR!!!
Good luck :)
Post by: dhorn on June 22, 2011, 10:48:23 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 22, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
I saw this part of a post referring to Wenaha East one time a while back.
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The terrain reminded me of Glacier Peak Mt. Goat hunting;)
The concern I think with killing a bull in there is that if you're 5+miles in and kill a bull, you gotta get it out before it spoils and hopefully avoid killing yourself.
Once you get down there, you'll see what these guys are saying. Hunt from foot if you want...have MtnCook on speed dial for if/when you kill a bull.
Good luck and keep us in the loop for your hunt and scouting.
:tup:
Post by: huntnnw on June 22, 2011, 10:59:20 PM
Post by: MHWASH on June 23, 2011, 06:02:21 AM
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Post by: mtncook on June 23, 2011, 06:37:40 AM
mtncook
Post by: trophyhunt on June 23, 2011, 07:00:15 AM
Post by: Daytonite on June 23, 2011, 07:31:27 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 08:34:49 AM
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 04:30:25 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 04:40:25 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 23, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
What does one of mtncooks unguided dropcamps go for?
Here is a link to his website.
http://www.westernlifeoutfitters.com/Hunting.html (http://www.westernlifeoutfitters.com/Hunting.html)
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 23, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 23, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 05:10:08 PM
Post by: Caseyd on June 23, 2011, 05:47:30 PM
There are 6 bighorns in this picture :o
Actually 6? Or were you kidding...
Post by: CJ-5 on June 23, 2011, 06:01:55 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 06:16:50 PM
Post by: Dode on June 23, 2011, 06:32:25 PM
There are 6 bighorns in this picture :o
Probably the same ones we were talking about during my bear hunt Charlie?
Not a very good picture as it was through the spotting scope.
Post by: Dode on June 23, 2011, 06:39:11 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
Post by: Dode on June 23, 2011, 07:10:14 PM
Same ones Dode! When was that bull picture taken Dode?
I wish I could say that was from this spring but I would get burned at the stake from everybody. Probably have the governors tag guy hunting me down. It was taken last summer.
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 23, 2011, 08:03:31 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 09:00:37 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 23, 2011, 09:36:35 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 09:44:02 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 23, 2011, 10:01:08 PM
4 years ago when i shot a spike, packing him out my self was 6 - 8hr round trip.
There are some BIG ass bulls in there but youll have to work for them. Where i hunt its about 2 miles before anything opens up to see, then i start my hunting. Stuff like extra socks are like heaven, and you never know what the weather will be like for the year. last year i was in about 15" of snow but when i shot my bull i was in a T shirt.
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 10:02:44 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 23, 2011, 10:10:23 PM
Damn flat land there Josh :chuckle: Must be down by Pomeroy :chuckle:
Yeah I think I caught a little of the road in the one pic...
There's no roads in the Wenaha East unit.
:yike:
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 23, 2011, 10:17:00 PM
:twocents:
Post by: jackelope on June 23, 2011, 10:18:36 PM
Do you know about the potential trophy quality of the elk in the unit you drew a permit for?
Don't take these questions the wrong way...I just hope you understand what you have.
Post by: Huntnphish on June 23, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
but we are interested in hunting by foot.
:chuckle: Does someone on here have some pics to show him of the terrain? You would be well advised to listen to the others and talk to Mtcook.
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 10:27:31 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 23, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 23, 2011, 10:40:07 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 23, 2011, 10:41:29 PM
Post by: zackmioli on June 23, 2011, 11:13:06 PM
good luck on your hunt.
Post by: mtncook on June 24, 2011, 12:01:06 AM
mtncook
Post by: mtncook on June 24, 2011, 12:17:04 AM
mtncook
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 05:28:00 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on June 24, 2011, 06:06:05 AM
unless you plan on hunting from a road everyday which can be done.
I tromp all over that country on foot and I'd do a deer hunt on foot but not an elk hunt, especially a rifle hunt when there's a chance for snow.
Many tags have been eaten in there due to the country and people not being well prepared.
Charlie, here's your Rams last fall.
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 24, 2011, 11:45:26 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 24, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Like Woodchuck said; stop leaning. You will probably never draw this tag again, so treat it like a "Once in a Lifetime" experience. MtCook's drop camp is probably the way to go if you haven't already scouted it. You will beneifit from his years of experience by putting you in the right spot. The elk don't live everywhere in there. :twocents:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 24, 2011, 12:01:35 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on June 24, 2011, 12:32:49 PM
This is no place to take the flat land horse. Heck, it's no place to take even the average trail type stock. At or near tip top shape is a must.
Having raised, trained and trail ridden horses for many, many years I'm not sure that I could get mine to the level of shape this country requires in 4 months and I ride some decent country 3-4 times a month. Think of how altitude can affect we as people. It's no different for stock. Being in top shape is the best situation for the horse. Anything less can ruin your hunt.
Me, I'd call mtncook and call it a day. :) If he'd allow, I would consider bringing my own horse but that would be his call. A lot easier to concentrate on getting one horse ready to roll vs. the whole string needed to make this the quality hunt you want out of it.
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 03:40:12 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 24, 2011, 03:48:45 PM
It can be done with out horses, I hunt it every year and so do alot of people. If you dont have horses it will be alot of work but well worth it.
Just somthing to add, last year i broke the road open last year with my 4 runner. The snow drifts were getting big, i helped pull alot of people out that were snowed in.
If your in good shape, and put in the time you should, you will get a big bull. you have a dream tag, dont waste it.
Myself, i dont think i could afford to hire someone to help with a hunt like this.
Post by: The100Road on June 24, 2011, 03:52:02 PM
Post by: Huntnphish on June 24, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
looks like i have a lot of homework to do?
When you consider the improbability of drawing that tag again in the next twenty years, I would restrict my homework to which outfitter to hire and how to get in shape to be able to maximize my opportunity. :twocents:
Post by: Woodchuck on June 24, 2011, 04:06:48 PM
I thought there where no elk in the blues?Exactly, read my last post in this thread. Still can be fun to camp deep in there. ;)
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 24, 2011, 04:27:54 PM
I thought there where no elk in the blues?
Are you trying to ruin this thread 100Road? ...cause if you are, I can do it... :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on June 24, 2011, 04:29:05 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 24, 2011, 04:29:35 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 24, 2011, 04:31:01 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 24, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 24, 2011, 04:41:31 PM
Post by: Huntnphish on June 24, 2011, 04:50:04 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 24, 2011, 04:56:18 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 24, 2011, 09:38:33 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 09:49:10 PM
Post by: runamuk on June 24, 2011, 09:53:37 PM
...I kind of feel like I am being egged on here... :dunno:go chosen one.... go chosen one.... ;) there aint no elk in the blues last I heard bigfoot ate them all ;)
good luck its a beautiful place a person could lose themselves in there
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 10:06:01 PM
Post by: nwhunter on June 24, 2011, 10:51:32 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 24, 2011, 10:54:40 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 24, 2011, 11:17:40 PM
looks like i have a lot of homework to do?
Please do. It will pay you back big in the end.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on June 25, 2011, 08:54:48 AM
This is what happens to you in the wenaha when you arent ready for it!! Some people swear they will never go back after a few days. For me its a love hate relationship, I hate the torture it is on my body but love what I see and enjoy while I am there.nwhunter
that happens even if you are ready for it :chuckle:
Post by: bucklucky on June 25, 2011, 09:44:06 AM
This is what happens to you in the wenaha when you arent ready for it!! Some people swear they will never go back after a few days. For me its a love hate relationship, I hate the torture it is on my body but love what I see and enjoy while I am there.nwhunter
that happens even if you are ready for it :chuckle:
Im pretty sure I died in there once :chuckle:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 25, 2011, 09:53:45 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on June 25, 2011, 10:13:55 AM
This is what happens to you in the wenaha when you arent ready for it!! Some people swear they will never go back after a few days. For me its a love hate relationship, I hate the torture it is on my body but love what I see and enjoy while I am there.nwhunter
that happens even if you are ready for it :chuckle:
Im pretty sure I died in there once :chuckle:
I've wanted to at times... several times.
Post by: bucklucky on June 25, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
This is what happens to you in the wenaha when you arent ready for it!! Some people swear they will never go back after a few days. For me its a love hate relationship, I hate the torture it is on my body but love what I see and enjoy while I am there.nwhunter
that happens even if you are ready for it :chuckle:
Im pretty sure I died in there once :chuckle:
I've wanted to at times... several times.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 25, 2011, 10:53:40 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 25, 2011, 11:00:33 AM
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 25, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on June 25, 2011, 11:08:41 AM
Do any of you go in there solo?
Yep, I've been in both sides solo a few times. It can be pretty tough to find someone else willing to go at times. Usually the only one that will tag along is my dad.
Post by: bucklucky on June 25, 2011, 12:20:31 PM
But you do in the west?
If you are hunting elk I do not recommend it if its hot. I did though but had help packing meat 2 1/2 miles.
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 25, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
Post by: nwhunter on June 25, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on June 25, 2011, 07:35:35 PM
A better bet is to find a friend or family member who has horses that can handle the tough stuff but doesn't hunt themselves. Have them on the lookout for a call to come help from Dayton or Pomeroy or Troy and directions to the trailhead your hunting from. Offer to pay their gas, beer, and stock feed for a month. Keep the meat cool for the 2 or 3 days it'll take between the shot and the stock arriving.
Better yet is to buy the drop camp from the outfitter. Packing is included in the price, and there are no surprises. It won't be quite the same as a guided hunt in a few aspects, but you'll be glad you did in the end.
If you want the best shot at a monster bull, then buy the guided hunt. Then all you have to do is get in shape.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 25, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 25, 2011, 08:55:25 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 25, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Drop camp, $900.00 per person. Trust me its well , well worth it. You can sell your sperm between now and the hunt to pay for it 8)
Man I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Now I know where charlie gets his spare hunting money :chuckle: :tup:
Post by: mtncook on June 25, 2011, 09:30:13 PM
mtncook
Post by: jackelope on June 25, 2011, 09:43:33 PM
Drop camp, $900.00 per person. Trust me its well , well worth it. You can sell your sperm between now and the hunt to pay for it 8)
The other thing you gotta think about with this...if you do choose to call Dave to pack a bull out...You're going to be in 3-5 miles lets say...shoot your bull, get him taken care of, quartered, hung up, etc. Walk the 3-5 miles out...then what? If you go in from Teepee you're going to get in your truck and drive 30-40 miles to get cell service to call Dave. Hopefully he answers. If he doesn't, then what? You drive 30-40 miles back or do you sit and wait for him to call back? You won't be recieving any cell phone calls anywhere near Teepee...trust me. A bull in packable size pieces is 4-5 trips for an average guy right? If you're 3 miles in, thats 30 miles of walking round trip. Hopefully there's 2 of you but thats still 15 miles a piece with what will be 50+ pounds minimum on your back each trip. :yike: I will direct you to Bowsnhose and his recent thread with his workout routine and a video of him packing his bull out of the Blues. Maybe that will give you an idea of what you're in for.
the pack 08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m12ZZUBasko#)
Here's the thread.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76574.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,76574.0.html)
Post by: dhorn on June 25, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 25, 2011, 10:30:23 PM
I have cell service all over there.
Mabey im tougher than some on here I dont know, some of you make sound as if it cant be done on there own. A guided hunt would be sweet but who has a grand to throw at it. last year it was cold enough the meat could have sat out for a week. It is not impossable, if you half way in shape its not really all that bad. It will be ALOT of work but it can be done.
No offens to mtncook, if i had the extra money i may use him it looks as if he runs a good camp.
All im saying is(and everyone is different) get your ass over here and put the boots to the ground and it will pay off. Dont be lazy, how do you think they find the elk.
Just seems to me to much talk about letting someone else do all the work and you just shoot the elk.
Its your tag, its your elk put some work into it, if you have the cash laying around, fine, but dont go broke cause thats what everyone else thinks. this is not to discredit all the great advise on here.
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 25, 2011, 10:44:59 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 25, 2011, 10:51:17 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 26, 2011, 12:00:57 AM
Post by: BENCHLEG on June 26, 2011, 12:17:09 AM
Post by: dhorn on June 26, 2011, 06:00:56 AM
Post by: piledup on June 26, 2011, 07:08:58 AM
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 26, 2011, 08:42:44 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 26, 2011, 09:00:24 AM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 26, 2011, 09:13:52 AM
Post by: piledup on June 26, 2011, 09:15:14 AM
Ok so heres my question without trying to :jacked: If a guy wants to hunt it (east or west) without a branch antler archery tag and just a general archery tag (spike only) to get a lay of the land, would you still buy a drop camp knowing the bull will be a spike and alot lighter? Then if a guy went without a drop camp he could use his sperm money on lighter backpacking gear or something. :chuckle:
Personally, I wouldn't pay the drop camp just for a spike. If you want to know the land, use the money that you would pay for the drop camp to do some scouting ahead and hunt it during general archery. Then that way you would know the area. I've tried hunting for spikes (close to the wenahas) with archery gear before and it gets pretty tough from my experience. Now If I had the any bull tag, I might go with the drop camp ONLY IF I was solo hunting. I'm sure there are other areas where you can pay a drop camp and have a better chance at an animal than a spike only area. :twocents:
Post by: Huntnphish on June 26, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
I think alot of people that put in for these units are thinking its a slam dunk when it is completely opposite. Its just an opportunity to be able to kill a good bull. Its not a unit with 350 bulls running everywhere. I know alot of tag holders that were humbled by the area, got skunked , Talked the Talk, but didnt walk the walk and never returned to this forum .
+1 This happens every year.
i do not have much experience hunting elk. but i have had plenty of experience packing out game!
No disrespect meant dhorn so don't take it that way. Reading through your thread I have come to the conclusion that you really don't realize what an opportunity you have with this tag, nor have the slightest understanding of what you are up against. On top of that you admit to limited elk hunting experience.
I'm sure I am not alone in saying that I applaud you for wanting to do this on your own and with your buddies, this is commendable. What I have seen happen though is guys insisting on the DIY way, bust their asses just to get in there, shoot a small bull and waist 3/4 of it because they were ultimately unprepared and just wanted to get back out.
These are the guys Bucklucky is referring to as well. Congrats on drawing the tag, its yours to do with as you please. Shooting a spike in there is also your prerogative and you shouldn't be judged for it if that is what you want to do. However, I really hope you do your "homework" as you posted earlier, and realize I wasn't kidding when I said you are not likely to draw this tag again in the next twenty years. I have no idea how old you are but think hard about that.
We will all be wishing you well and following along, take lots of pics.
Post by: Deer slayer on June 26, 2011, 11:00:26 AM
I know a guy that I ran into when scouting that had the archery tag and ate it because most of his help went home early. I will try to post some pics later as I can't do it on my iPhone.
Post by: Deer slayer on June 26, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 26, 2011, 11:10:24 AM
Post by: FarBeyondDriven on June 26, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 26, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
Love this post! I drew the same tag archery. Burned 9 points and am going backpacking next weekend for the first time in that rugged country. Just spent the last three days snow backpacking in the Selkirks and testing out new gear and hiking for conditioning. I consider this to be a once-in-a-lifetime tag and will not squander this opportunity. I have two more scouting trips planned with horses as well. I live to archery elk hunt and will be looking for perhaps a unique bull or something (Lord willing). Thank you everyone for the great info. I cannot wait to tame the mountains, I own two crossfit gyms so being in shape for this hunt will be an absolute must and something I will make time for. I hope to post my scouting progress here and on my traintohunt.com website. Again, thanks for the useful info.
SOmething may have changed in the last few days but I don't think you can drive to the unit yet.
Post by: jackelope on June 26, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
.. I heard today from my Game Agent friend that he drove to Godman!! That is good news, the road to Teepee is still plugged but should clear up fast.
mtncook
Post by: Brushbuster on June 26, 2011, 03:12:49 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 26, 2011, 03:21:06 PM
Post by: 2legit2quit on June 26, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 26, 2011, 09:14:29 PM
With two tags and my experience in there that would be the only option. Go with mtn cook. When it opens go climb mt misery and you will get a taste of it.
In case you didn't Know, you can drive to mt misery ; ). Jk
Yeah man go with a guide, people would pay thousands for the hunt you have in store in other states that allow outfitters more opportunities. Good luck!
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 26, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 26, 2011, 11:02:52 PM
It snowed about a foot the first night. We had good backpacking gear for the times: Gerry pads, REI down bags, SVEA 123 stove, and an Early Winters tent. My personal gear was Army surplus wool in size small. It was darn cold, but for a 14 year old missing a week of school, it was crazy great. Around mid-week, one of Slim's wranglers saw us on the pack trail up on Smooth Ridge as we made our way, mid-day towards another canyon to hunt. Towards the end of the week, Slim saw Dad again and said maybe we were alright; he told Dad his wrangler had talked to us on Smooth Ridge and was surprised we were in that far (its not that far). On the last day, we hunted the morning and then headed out. Slim saw us on the trail along Crooked Creek hoofing along. By then, he had some admiration for our grit and told my Dad he had some pretty tough kids. Slim was hard as nails and was probably the toughest sob in the area, so a compliment from him was something.
In the 4 years that I joined my Dad on those Wenaha hunts, I never saw anyone else backpack hunt there. We usually hunted with my Dad's friends who had horses; that year was the only year we didn't have stock. We didn't kill an elk that year. Getting the meat out would have been tough, but I'm sure we would have done it. You will, too, if you go DIY.
The point is, you can do it, if you choose to or if finances force you to. I applied for that tag this year and if drawn, I'd be tempted to do it all myself solo. But, I think I'd pay the drop camp price just to get more hours in hunting and less packing in and out. If you want it, you can get the pack out experience on another hunt; the Wenaha East tag deserves as many of your resources--money and time--as you can throw at it.
However you choose to go, know that dozens of jealous hunters like me will be vicariously hunting that tag with you. Hope your shoulders are broad enough to handle all of our expectations. ;)
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 11:06:27 AM
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Post by: Huntnphish on June 27, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 11:34:04 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 27, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
Skyline was open and dry to where I camp about 3 miles from Godman as of Sunday. :twocents:.. I heard today from my Game Agent friend that he drove to Godman!! That is good news, the road to Teepee is still plugged but should clear up fast.
mtncook
Post by: dhorn on June 27, 2011, 04:21:42 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 27, 2011, 04:42:29 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 27, 2011, 08:09:21 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 08:15:05 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 27, 2011, 08:45:33 PM
Post by: ridgefire on June 27, 2011, 09:54:51 PM
Post by: mtncook on June 27, 2011, 10:42:46 PM
Shawn Ryan referring to Slim Stucker must be a few years older than me to have been in there at 14 as Slim has not been there for close to 40 years.
mtncook
Post by: nwhunter on June 27, 2011, 10:52:54 PM
Post by: nwhunter on June 27, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 27, 2011, 11:20:20 PM
If i had extra money im sure i may pay for a drop camp, life just doesnt allow it right now.
i could get you all the way around right now in my 4 runner. You do have a dream tag dont waste it,i agree you may never get it again. Only you know what you can do or can afford.
On both sides there is great advice. The weather could be an issue as stated before. just be prepaired.
Post by: mtncook on June 27, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
mtncook
Post by: mtncook on June 27, 2011, 11:27:04 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 27, 2011, 11:31:31 PM
Post by: tmike on June 27, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 28, 2011, 04:44:19 AM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 28, 2011, 08:25:46 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 28, 2011, 08:35:04 AM
Post by: jackelope on June 28, 2011, 08:46:30 AM
I always though our vehicle pass trumped a fs pass and that was for people who didn't hunt or fish but want to bird watch or something. When did they change that?
I'm fairly sure this is accurate...
The vehicle pass from WDFW is for WDFW land only. Has no bearing on other public land. Not sure anything's ever changed. At least not back as long as I've lived here which is not very long relatively speaking.
I could be wrong.
Post by: dhorn on June 28, 2011, 11:42:24 AM
Post by: Dan-o on June 28, 2011, 12:14:41 PM
I've done some elk pack outs in my time, but that dude looked like he was one tired/resolute/happy camper.
I just love how his buddy videoing him shows absolutely no sign of sympathy.... you shoot a bull that freaking big, you get to enjoy every single painful step of the trip out!
I think even as old and fat as I am, I'd have to shoot a bull that big no matter where I found myself.
Post by: jackelope on June 28, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
;)
Post by: bucklucky on June 28, 2011, 01:50:10 PM
Pretty sure that the bull that Bowsnhose is packing out in the still pic is not even his bull.
;)
Thats my bull from the week before.
That guys buddy that was filming is his Dad and he is in pretty good shae for an old guy :chuckle: Travis is a fire fighter and in some damn good shape. That is an easy pack compared to what the east will be. The pack on my bull was 2 1/2 miles and a pretty easy pack for alot of it but the first part sucked something fierce. I think Travises pack was a mile and a half if I remember right . At least there was a little down hill on Travises, mine was all up .
Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 28, 2011, 07:08:03 PM
Post by: mtncook on June 28, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
mtncook
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 29, 2011, 08:31:41 AM
...in retrospect, I am glad that I didn't ruin it... :chuckle:
Post by: lukuss on June 29, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 29, 2011, 08:48:34 AM
Up. :P
I am headed up there this afternoon with PathfinderJR to cut a load of wood. I'll let you guys know how far we get... :dunno:
Post by: Elkpiss on June 29, 2011, 10:14:46 AM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 29, 2011, 10:47:08 AM
In my apparent advancing age, I have found that time spent in rugged wilderness, like the Wenaha, tends to distill a man's character and you find out who you really are. Shooting the bull of a lifetime deep in a Wenaha canyon on a hot September day would certainly put a guy's character and decision making to the test.
Post by: Deer slayer on June 29, 2011, 10:47:27 AM
I think i better chime in here, My dad, Brother and I hunted it last year and to hunt it most effectively and time efficiant is with a packer to get you in and camp already set up and pack the meat out.. Like Deer Slayer said this is a no brainer, you have 2 elk to kill brother, there is no way in hell you will pack 2 elk out of the East time efficiantly and still have plenty of hunting time.. And I know when my dad seen the unit for the first time his balls dropped and thought he got in a little over his head and had MT Cook on the horn the next day.. He is 53, and I told him this is your hunt and make it enjoyable as possible and drop camp was nice... The only country that has been the same or a little steeper that i have hunted is the Eagle Cap.. Good luck dude, but this is a No Brainer, Im sure you have already booked with MT COOK.. He is a good dude and packer, just dont stair at the Mule thats packing out the Kitchen.... :chuckle:My dad went on one of the scouting trips with me. He said the same thing. Eagle Cap is the only thing that compares to it that he has hunted. He even said that parts of the East are worse. The part he is probably referring to is leaving from Teepee and climbing Mt Misery. It just keeps pulling.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on June 29, 2011, 12:18:26 PM
I think i better chime in here, My dad, Brother and I hunted it last year and to hunt it most effectively and time efficiant is with a packer to get you in and camp already set up and pack the meat out.. Like Deer Slayer said this is a no brainer, you have 2 elk to kill brother, there is no way in hell you will pack 2 elk out of the East time efficiantly and still have plenty of hunting time.. And I know when my dad seen the unit for the first time his balls dropped and thought he got in a little over his head and had MT Cook on the horn the next day.. He is 53, and I told him this is your hunt and make it enjoyable as possible and drop camp was nice... The only country that has been the same or a little steeper that i have hunted is the Eagle Cap.. Good luck dude, but this is a No Brainer, Im sure you have already booked with MT COOK.. He is a good dude and packer, just dont stair at the Mule thats packing out the Kitchen.... :chuckle:My dad went on one of the scouting trips with me. He said the same thing. Eagle Cap is the only thing that compares to it that he has hunted. He even said that parts of the East are worse. The part he is probably referring to is leaving from Teepee and climbing Mt Misery. It just keeps pulling.
I spend quite a bit of time in the Eagle Cap and to me, the eastern portion of the wenaha is quite a bit tougher to navigate. 2 years ago we packed a deer 11 miles out of the eagle cap on our backs and it was by far a lot easier of a pack than packing one 8 miles out of the wenaha last year.
The majority of the wenaha involves packing "up" to get anything out.
oh yeah, Wastickslinger, I'm not the crazy one, my dad is. He's 54 and goes with me to pack even when he doesn't have a tag!
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 12:30:46 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 29, 2011, 12:38:56 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on June 29, 2011, 12:50:09 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 29, 2011, 02:27:17 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 02:29:17 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 29, 2011, 03:28:14 PM
well i better get ready for a rough hunt! looks like we are doing it by foot!!!!!!
If this is your choice to go on your own, If there is a way to get some friends to hang out or be on call(stand by) that would be a big plus.
When i packed out my bull i was wishing i had someone with me at least, let alone someone who could help pack.
Post by: Elkpiss on June 29, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on June 29, 2011, 04:24:41 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on June 29, 2011, 04:30:36 PM
When it's all said and done, success or no success, we want to hear the entire hunt story.
Good luck!!! :)
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
Post by: njc89 on June 29, 2011, 07:21:41 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: njc89 on June 29, 2011, 07:46:58 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 29, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
Post by: dawnsnow on June 29, 2011, 08:50:07 PM
I know from personal experience that when we attempt to do what others think we are unable to do or what we are afraid to try that we often amaze ourselves at our capabilities. I think if you decide to do this hunt on your own ,(even if you have to humble yourself by asking for assistance that you previously thought unnecessary), that you will have not only a memorable hunt, but also a stronger sense of self and a strong sense of pride for attempting to do what others thought was not possible.
I commend you for being a hunter who is not afraid to hunt! I have seen way too many people out there looking for a quick kill instead of a good hunt and an exhausting pack out. I could never be proud of taking game that was not a challenge to me both mentally and physically.
The only way we learn and grow is to continue to challenge ourselves and the only way you will ever know your full potential is to push yourself a little further than you have before. Good luck on your hunt! Maybe someday I will be fortunate enough to draw such an awesome tag!
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 08:52:49 PM
we will have to scout it first! but i think we will backpack in and hunt it thats what it takes! i have backpack hunted. we hunted the glacier peak wilderness two years ago! we packed a bear out of there nine and a half miles. so i definitely know what to expect!! the terrain might overwhelm me a bit but my love for hunting will push me a little harder then.
ANd ,multiply that pack by 5 times. Keep that in mind . Gona be an average of 100 pound meat packs.
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 09:09:31 PM
we will have to scout it first! but i think we will backpack in and hunt it thats what it takes! i have backpack hunted. we hunted the glacier peak wilderness two years ago! we packed a bear out of there nine and a half miles. so i definitely know what to expect!! the terrain might overwhelm me a bit but my love for hunting will push me a little harder then.
ANd ,multiply that pack by 5 times. Keep that in mind . Gona be an average of 100 pound meat packs.
bringing my food dehydrator with me. that should lighten the load!!!! jk
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 09:11:46 PM
we will have to scout it first! but i think we will backpack in and hunt it thats what it takes! i have backpack hunted. we hunted the glacier peak wilderness two years ago! we packed a bear out of there nine and a half miles. so i definitely know what to expect!! the terrain might overwhelm me a bit but my love for hunting will push me a little harder then.
ANd ,multiply that pack by 5 times. Keep that in mind . Gona be an average of 100 pound meat packs.
bringing my food dehydrator with me. that should lighten the load!!!! jk
I actually laughed out Loud on that one :lol4:
Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 29, 2011, 09:12:45 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 09:20:28 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 09:21:15 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on June 29, 2011, 09:42:10 PM
Dhorn-keep this going. This should be your follow along thread till you get that big bull!!!
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 09:43:50 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 09:49:32 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 09:54:24 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 29, 2011, 09:58:20 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 29, 2011, 10:00:15 PM
Post by: Elkpiss on June 30, 2011, 07:25:24 AM
we will have to scout it first! but i think we will backpack in and hunt it thats what it takes! i have backpack hunted. we hunted the glacier peak wilderness two years ago! we packed a bear out of there nine and a half miles. so i definitely know what to expect!! the terrain might overwhelm me a bit but my love for hunting will push me a little harder then.Try by 10X they have 2 Bulls to Kill..
ANd ,multiply that pack by 5 times. Keep that in mind . Gona be an average of 100 pound meat packs.. Unless you get that 350 inch Calf... haha, you got a good attitude man, I hope you kill a hog, and pack it out whole to get that life size mount.. :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on June 30, 2011, 07:29:40 AM
that will definitely get me going!!!! :yike: ...... very nice!!!!! do ihave to pack it out whole if i want a life size mount? :dunno:
Yes, and don't dehydrate the meat either, the mount will look real skinny.
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 08:02:51 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 30, 2011, 08:08:03 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 30, 2011, 08:48:02 AM
Forget the dehydrator; I have a buddy who's dad used to look down into some of the holes we hunted and say; "If you kill something down in there, don't come lookin' for me. You little %$#@!'s better pack a fork...." :chuckle:
I have a buddy that drew this same tag (just found out the other day). I think he is going to use a drop camp. I was going to blow over there yesterday and see how close I could get to Teepee Springs, but PathfinderJR wanted to bring a buddy along with us and he had to be home by 5:00 so we cut wood closer to town. I'll try to get up there later next week.
Post by: Daytonite on June 30, 2011, 08:51:27 AM
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 09:28:12 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 30, 2011, 09:29:33 AM
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 09:33:56 AM
Post by: bucklucky on June 30, 2011, 09:38:22 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 30, 2011, 09:39:27 AM
lol..... guess i better get a pair of snow shoes along with that featherweight dehydrator!!!! :dunno: :tup:
Actually, a set of snowshoes tucked behind the seat just in case isn't a bad idea... 8)
Post by: Woodchuck on June 30, 2011, 09:40:49 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 30, 2011, 09:47:24 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on June 30, 2011, 10:11:14 AM
Post by: jackelope on June 30, 2011, 10:50:12 AM
Road to Teepee was full at Godman on Friday. Wife and I are backpacking this weekend from Panjab to Teepee, out to Oregon Butte, then to Indian Corral and down to Panjab. Will let you know snow and trail conditions first part of next week
That sounds like a great way to spend a weekend.
I'm green with envy.
Post by: jackelope on June 30, 2011, 10:52:47 AM
lol..... guess i better get a pair of snow shoes along with that featherweight dehydrator!!!! :dunno: :tup:
Actually, a set of snowshoes tucked behind the seat just in case isn't a bad idea... 8)
When is the hunt?
This pic was taken 11/20 last year. I know it's been posted on here a million times but it goes to show...you never know.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 30, 2011, 01:42:01 PM
Post by: mtncook on June 30, 2011, 06:35:56 PM
mtncook
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 07:59:26 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 30, 2011, 09:17:13 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on June 30, 2011, 09:42:15 PM
Post by: njc89 on June 30, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 30, 2011, 09:47:57 PM
Man I wish I had that tag.
Me too :chuckle:
Post by: JPhelps on June 30, 2011, 09:50:04 PM
Me too :chuckle::yeah:
Post by: toyman2 on June 30, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
The only thing that would stop me would be a drift all the way across the road steeper than 45 degrees some of the time
Post by: bucklucky on June 30, 2011, 09:52:19 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 09:55:35 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 09:58:48 PM
Post by: bucklucky on June 30, 2011, 09:59:35 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 30, 2011, 10:15:13 PM
Post by: dhorn on June 30, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
Post by: toyman2 on June 30, 2011, 10:21:51 PM
Post by: walleye1 on July 01, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
Post by: toyman2 on July 01, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
may still go up just to take some pics and glass around
Post by: walleye1 on July 02, 2011, 07:32:40 AM
Post by: dhorn on July 02, 2011, 01:31:18 PM
Post by: bucklucky on July 02, 2011, 01:49:54 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 02, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
Post by: toyman2 on July 02, 2011, 07:56:43 PM
the over all steepness wasnt so bad but the first part to get on that drift would have put me to the limit.
Post by: runamuk on July 02, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 02, 2011, 10:00:01 PM
Post by: toyman2 on July 02, 2011, 11:43:00 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on July 03, 2011, 10:42:51 AM
that would put any rig to the limit. think it will be clear by the 16th?
Access is great for your unit. That drift is a ways from where you need to be.
Post by: njc89 on July 03, 2011, 12:01:28 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 03, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
Post by: Caseyd on July 03, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
my tag came in also yesterday.. it is definitely official!!!!!!!!! now the long wait for the hunt!!!!!
Plenty of work to be done..it will go quick
Post by: toyman2 on July 04, 2011, 08:28:41 AM
that would put any rig to the limit. think it will be clear by the 16th?
Access is great for your unit. That drift is a ways from where you need to be.
unless im missing somthing, everything to the left is the unit he can hunt till it hits Oregon.
Everything to the right is watershed
Post by: BLUEBULLS on July 04, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
Post by: toyman2 on July 04, 2011, 11:01:33 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on July 04, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
oh yea my bad, sorry was thinking backwards. well crap i need to rethink what i was thinking:dunno:
Kind of like taking the lockers out when you need to get up the stairs to get over the snowdrift in the elevator in the outhouse? No matter how you think it through it can't work.
Interested to see how your horse likes the Wenaha area dhorn. I do suggest a good lead rope for the majority of it except for the trails that are on the maps and then for a part of them until you and the horse are confident in what it can do. It's tough country, but a little break in period should get you both off and running toward a successful hunt.
Post by: dhorn on July 04, 2011, 06:09:52 PM
Post by: Daytonite on July 04, 2011, 06:55:28 PM
From Teepee to Oregon Butte: Once again heavy blowdown and 2-3ft of snow in the trees. Ridge lines are bare.
Oregon Butte to Indian Corral. Not too bad except through the saddles where it burned. This area has a lot of blowdown, but rest of trail was ok.
Indian Corral down to Panjab: Not bad, maybe 2 dozen trees down (which was good compared to rest of the trip).
None of the trails are open for stock, but if you don't mind climbing over and under a lot, you can make it. I will wait for trail crews to go through in the future.
Saw about a dozen elk (all cows) two large mule deer (4 and 5pt) and one little 2pt.
Post by: dhorn on July 04, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
Post by: mtncook on July 04, 2011, 09:21:05 PM
mtncook
Post by: Daytonite on July 04, 2011, 09:42:47 PM
It definitely looks different this time of year vs. August when you packed us in for work Dave. Did you make Rainbow this weekend?
Post by: mtncook on July 04, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
mtncook
Post by: dhorn on July 08, 2011, 10:06:57 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on July 08, 2011, 11:06:39 PM
Post by: JLS on July 09, 2011, 12:22:15 AM
Also, not every horse has a mind for the mountains. I'd highly recommend you find out if yours does before you embark on your hunt. If you don't know how to teach a horse to pack, find someone who does. Basically, you have to teach them to tolerate about anything from a slipped saddle, to an antler tine poking them, and anything in between. I've seen some really good wrecks that resulted from a dumb packhorse (a few of my own included).
Mtncook, those are some great pictures and a very nice looking string of mules.
Dhorn, best of luck on your hunt. The Wenaha is phenomenal country.
Post by: dhorn on July 09, 2011, 05:25:15 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 09, 2011, 08:35:59 AM
"Widowmaker....?
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 09:35:01 AM
Send me a PM with your email and I will send you my 10 day backpacking hunt list. I have a spreadsheet with the exact weights down to the hundredth of an ounce and a list without. I will say that I have a ton of money into my gear and due to the time of year you are going to have a heavier pack.
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread about getting an elk out of the backcountry. If you are 2 miles or more back, just bone out your elk. You are only talking about 3 trips for two guys if you are taking the cape. And two trips if you are doing an antler or Euro mount. You are not required to take neck and rib meat, and if you don't, that's about 175-225 lbs. of boned out meat for a mature bull, plus the antlers and cape.
Did I say you are really going to want to get in shape? I carry an 80 lbs. pack every day for about 2.3 miles to get ready. I start on June 1st and by the end of July my body is as tough as nails. In August, I like to alternate days running and packing the pack. The rest is all mental. The above is just a tip for getting ready for your hunt since your time is running out. =)
Below are two bulls we killed two days apart in 2008 and had no problem getting them out from 5 and 7 miles back. The elevation ranged from 8,500' to 6,000'. And it's 70 degrees midday with nighttime lows in the 20s. Much more difficult conditions in terms of meat spoilage.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.com%2Fmu%2F47c59c50-842e-be1a.jpg&hash=a52b4145a6ca1319288a6fcb2372451e41e359c5)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.com%2Fmu%2F47c59c50-8579-6b49.jpg&hash=a72c0c3b6b568d02db6e251716ee9294c69e0906)
Good luck on your hunt! Time to start getting physically prepared since you choose the hard way. =)
Post by: bucklucky on July 09, 2011, 10:37:06 AM
Post by: 50CalJim on July 09, 2011, 10:48:14 AM
Post by: JLS on July 09, 2011, 11:16:42 AM
Wow, your mature bulls have small bodies there slim, and leaving meat is pretty piss poor advice. A guy has too plan for the worst case scenario when hunting those bulls and telling somebody a mature bull will only have 175 - 225 pounds of boned out meat is absolutely rediculas. My dink Roosie, non mature bull with a small bodie had more meat than that. Looks like you just added to the misinformation 8)
I think 225 pounds of boned meat from a 4-5 year old Rocky Mtn bull is quite reasonable.
Not all states require you to take neck and rib meat, which might only add 20-30 pounds or so anyway.
Post by: bucklucky on July 09, 2011, 11:40:16 AM
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 11:45:19 AM
Wow, your mature bulls have small bodies there slim, and leaving meat is pretty piss poor advice. A guy has too plan for the worst case scenario when hunting those bulls and telling somebody a mature bull will only have 175 - 225 pounds of boned out meat is absolutely rediculas. My dink Roosie, non mature bull with a small bodie had more meat than that. Looks like you just added to the misinformation 8)
Look. I didn't post to start a fight, but we need to clear this up...
I have killed 7 elk (and packed out about 20) and my dad had killed nearly 40. I think you are questioning the wrong person. How many Rocky Mountain bulls have your killed?
A 3-year old Olympic Peninsula Roosevelt bull is as large as any Rocky Mountain bull I have ever seen dead. My bull from last year shown below had roughly 20-30 lbs. more meat than either of the two mature Rocky Mountain bulls pictured above. The body size of this young bull put to shame the size of my MT bull from two years earlier.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.com%2Fmu%2F47c59c50-a1bc-bc6a.jpg&hash=791a5d7f491cb3a7b06192a2e58e339299708f39)
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Obviousely my point was missed :chuckle: I dodnt say that you will only have that much meat but a big bidied mature bull can sway those scales quite a bit higher than what he had posted. If somebody goes in thinking thats all the meat they will have to pack and plan on only a couple hundred pounds and end up with 400 + your looking at alot heavier loads. Plan for the worst not the average.
You have to be kidding. We are taking about boned out meat here. No neck meat, no rib meat. Just the 4 quarters, backstraps and tenders. Are you really saying that you think there is a Rocky Mountain bull with 400 lbs. of meat from these areas? Lol.
Have you ever actually weighed your meat or are you just estimating?
Post by: JLS on July 09, 2011, 12:07:09 PM
Obviousely my point was missed :chuckle: I dodnt say that you will only have that much meat but a big bidied mature bull can sway those scales quite a bit higher than what he had posted. If somebody goes in thinking thats all the meat they will have to pack and plan on only a couple hundred pounds and end up with 400 + your looking at alot heavier loads. Plan for the worst not the average.
You have to be kidding. We are taking about boned out meat here. No neck meat, no rib meat. Just the 4 quarters, backstraps and tenders. Are you really saying that you think there is a Rocky Mountain bull with 400 lbs. of meat from these areas? Lol.
Have you ever actually weighed your meat or are you just estimating?
400 lbs of boned meat would translate to a 1000 lb live weight. Your average quarter horse is only about 1100 or so.
Post by: JPhelps on July 09, 2011, 12:13:30 PM
As far as questioning Charlie. :bdid:
Post by: Huntbear on July 09, 2011, 12:21:05 PM
Obviousely my point was missed :chuckle: I dodnt say that you will only have that much meat but a big bidied mature bull can sway those scales quite a bit higher than what he had posted. If somebody goes in thinking thats all the meat they will have to pack and plan on only a couple hundred pounds and end up with 400 + your looking at alot heavier loads. Plan for the worst not the average.
You have to be kidding. We are taking about boned out meat here. No neck meat, no rib meat. Just the 4 quarters, backstraps and tenders. Are you really saying that you think there is a Rocky Mountain bull with 400 lbs. of meat from these areas? Lol.
Have you ever actually weighed your meat or are you just estimating?
400 lbs of boned meat would translate to a 1000 lb live weight. Your average quarter horse is only about 1100 or so.
Plus, you have to figure in head/horns & cape as well.
Post by: JLS on July 09, 2011, 12:23:37 PM
Personally, I usually take most if not all of the neck meat. I'm not going to lose sleep over 5-10 lbs of rib meat.
Maybe Dave can weigh in here? Mtncook, how much do the quarters average that you pack out? I'm guessing Dave doesn't need more than two mules to get out an elk.
Post by: Todd_ID on July 09, 2011, 12:30:12 PM
Post by: bucklucky on July 09, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
Dont quote me on this but my buddy killed a Montana bull last year and the quarters and boned meat was in that mid 400 pound range. I will ask him to be positive.
Post by: mtncook on July 09, 2011, 01:02:09 PM
Post by: JLS on July 09, 2011, 01:27:25 PM
Dhorn, I'd fully recommend that you load up your pack and spend about four or five days hiking the unit. Only then will you really know how to accurately judge your capabilities. Be realistic in how far you can physically go. Don't let fear limit you, but on the flip side don't let dreamy thoughts impair your judgement.
FWIW, I'm in pretty darned good shape, and have been thinking of bowhunting this unit. I have also strongly considered using Dave's services to pack meat if I killed something. Where two of you have tags that you'll likely never draw again, I'd sell the horse you just bought and do a drop camp. Whatever you choose, best of luck. PM me if you need help getting started with your pack horse.
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 02:45:46 PM
I do weight most of my meat on scales when I can. The little Roosie I killed last year had 65 pound Hind quarters, 35 pound shoulders all bone in, boned meat from the tiny neck, backstraps, tenderloins, and ribs was 65 pounds, thats 265 with bone in the quarters and shoulder. AFter I cut up my meat I weighed the bones and had 30 pounds so I had 235 pounds of bones meat off a bull that was tiny in comparison to my blues bull and Travises . 30% of elk in the blues have Roosevelt blood in them and it shows. A big mature bull like the ones Travis (Bowsandhose) and I killed in the blues were bigger than any Roosie Kill I have been on. Bone in quarters on those BIG bulls were right about 85-90 pounds. Take those quarters and double it and that is going to be a ball park for the boned out meat off the neck , ribs, backstrap, and tenderloins. The shoulders are roughly half of a hind quarter in weight bone in. So thats 450 pounds, subtract approxiately 50 pounds for the leg bones and you got 400. In all reality the bones dont weight that much. I know that average Rockies are pretty small compared to the roosies mature bull wise but those bulls in the blues are gigantic for the most part, not all are huge body wise but man, get one down and you'll *censored* your pants !
Dont quote me on this but my buddy killed a Montana bull last year and the quarters and boned meat was in that mid 400 pound range. I will ask him to be positive.
You may be be right about the elk in the Blues having Roosevelt blood. I have never heard that but I know a lot of them were transplanted to other places. The Gila elk that I have hunted have very large bodies compared to any other Rocky Mountain elk I have seen and I read somewhere that they were Roosevelt transplants. Who knows if it's true. If you are right, they could definitely be 20-30% bigger than a typical Rocky Mountain bull. I would say that 800 lbs. is a huge Rocky bull.
I have seen 400+ lbs. of boned out meat come off of one Roosevelt bull. He was killed way up on the Peninsula and shot from the road by a friend of my dad's. That was basically every piece of meat on his body since he was pulled out whole with a spool and butchered in his garage. If it didn't weight 1000 lbs. on the hoof I would be surprised and it must have been 8-9 years old. Roosevelt's typically only get that large up on the Northern part of Olympic Penninsula and Vancouver Island. The elk I have killed in the SW corner of the state seem to be closer to typical Rocky Mountain size. My partner's smallish 5x5 from 2008 probably only weighed 450 lbs. total weight, maybe less. I think I recall the hind quarters being about 60-65 lbs. with the bone.
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Post by: bucklucky on July 09, 2011, 04:28:35 PM
Is that a Hawkeye Built cart by chance??
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 07:05:15 PM
I agree Slim!! That 30% Roosevelt came from Pat Fowler the Biologist that just retired from F@W. He said 1 of 2 things happened , either there were elk transplantred on the Oregon side that had roosie blood or they came down the columbia gorge at some point. Thats interesting about the Gila.
Is that a Hawkeye Built cart by chance??
Yes it is. It has had a busy life. I remember the day I drove down to Wayne's house near Clatskanie and bought it. (I think that was his name) He was a super nice guy and had recently gotten injured on the job logging. It's too bad he couldn't make his fortune selling carts. We talked about hunting for about an hour. Him and his son are some elk killers too. Lol
Post by: bucklucky on July 09, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
I agree Slim!! That 30% Roosevelt came from Pat Fowler the Biologist that just retired from F@W. He said 1 of 2 things happened , either there were elk transplantred on the Oregon side that had roosie blood or they came down the columbia gorge at some point. Thats interesting about the Gila.
Is that a Hawkeye Built cart by chance??
Yes it is. It has had a busy life. I remember the day I drove down to Wayne's house near Clatskanie and bought it. (I think that was his name) He was a super nice guy and had recently gotten injured on the job logging. It's too bad he couldn't make his fortune selling carts. We talked about hunting for about an hour. Him and his son are some elk killers too. Lol
I always wanted to buy one of them carts but never wanted to spend the money bad enough. I thought they were about as good as a cart could get for hauling meat!!
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
I agree Slim!! That 30% Roosevelt came from Pat Fowler the Biologist that just retired from F@W. He said 1 of 2 things happened , either there were elk transplantred on the Oregon side that had roosie blood or they came down the columbia gorge at some point. Thats interesting about the Gila.
Is that a Hawkeye Built cart by chance??
Yes it is. It has had a busy life. I remember the day I drove down to Wayne's house near Clatskanie and bought it. (I think that was his name) He was a super nice guy and had recently gotten injured on the job logging. It's too bad he couldn't make his fortune selling carts. We talked about hunting for about an hour. Him and his son are some elk killers too. Lol
I always wanted to buy one of them carts but never wanted to spend the money bad enough. I thought they were about as good as a cart could get for hauling meat!!
If I recall correctly, it was my college graduation present from my pops in 2007. I was very lucky to get it. I think he liked the idea of making our long meat hauls easier. The thing has been a godsend. You can see that even though it's a small bull, the thing handles a full elk like nothing.
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on July 09, 2011, 10:13:53 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 09, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
Post by: slim9300 on July 09, 2011, 11:11:41 PM
Well from my perspective the very hardest part of your hunt is already over. Drawing the tag :chuckle:! All kidding aside, its rugged country, i have spent some limited time there but what I have seen i fell in love with. IMHO you will either love it or hate it. Better hope for the former. Never been there during gun season, so no info on that. If you kill a mature bull in that unit you will be carrying a significant amount of meat, neck and rib meat or not, don't kid your self a mature bull is heavy!! A ton of great info has been posted in this thread so far and I have learned alot. Im not giving advice, just my own perspective. I consider myself a very die hard DIY hunter. But made the decision long ago that given the opportunity in this unit I would hire an outfitter drop camp. Hands down no questions asked, (The info about mtcook has been awesome from that aspect). Not because the area is so rugged, or I was afraid of meat spoilage. But because I want to live the dream. To wake up in a canvas wall tent, on a cot, with a stove. (Not a sub 3 pound tent, and jetboil ) Cook real coffee, biscuits and gravy, bacon and eggs, ( instead of via instant coffe and oatmeal). To come back to lanterns, firewood, and a dinner of steak and potatoes, maybe a drink ( headlamp and mountain house, no booze). And finally to watch a pack string loaded down with antlers and meat hauling my 400 incher out of the woods ( hey I said it was a dream) down the trail, the smell of horse sweat and leather, the creak of saddles and striking hooves on the trail. ( not the constant mantra of " are we there yet", and knowing when we get "there" we will be heading right back for round two, or calling in some rodeo ponies to "pack"lol). Knowing all is well and not wanting it to end. I guess what im saying is that, truly this could be a OIL tag. with real opportunity to shoot a BIG bull and I dont mean 300 inch big, think BIG. I LOVE backpack hunting, everything in parantheses is played out every september for me and I wouldnt have it any other way. But with this tag I would reward myself, live the fantasy, besides you can always spike out for a night or two, if your just getting to "comfortable" :chuckle:. Im not trying to change yer mind, just giving the perspective of a guy who has wrestled with the same thoughts of DIY vs DC. I wish ya the best of luck dhorn, kill some studs. And if possible get some pics up of some horses packing out some heavy bone, I get off on that $hit.
Sweet, but odd post. I felt like I could have been talking and not you. Lol. I think your reasoning is dead on. Makes me want to start putting in for a multi-season tag every year so I can simply put in for the Eastside units with my 10 points. I did that 3 years back, but no luck. =)
Post by: Green Lantern on July 10, 2011, 12:03:17 AM
Post by: toyman2 on July 10, 2011, 09:18:10 AM
dhorn, DON'T sell the horses! Your wife would probably skin you and hang you for bear bait! Definitely be prepared for complete and utter exhaustion, but remember the difference between hunting and killing. Killing is the easy part. The good stories and the memories don't come from "Yeah, I got a drop camp and walked 1 mile and shot a huge bull and then waited for the guy to pack me out". The good stories come from all the pain, suffering and hard work you endured while being a true hunter and putting in the work to truly appreciate the bull you harvest. Definitely don't look at this hunt through rose colored glasses...it's great that before you make a concrete decision on how to do this hunt that you are taking several trips to the area to see for yourself. Once you assess the country and the terrain and your own abilities you will be better able to make the decision that suits you! Good luck to you and don't forget...your wife LOVES packing out game (I hear it's her second favorite part of hunting) so I'm sure she will help if you need it!
Good advice, dhorn just remember everything on here is just that. This is your tag it is your choice DIY or DC. eather way make the very best of it. like i have said be prepared and ready for alot of hard work. like some have said you cant get into enough shape, same goes for the horse also.
Only you can weed through the BS and grab the advice you want, alot of us will live it through you.
To me it just seems some on here have alot to gain for sevices(nothing really wrong with that) just bugs me the way its pushed.
Post by: JLS on July 10, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
dhorn, DON'T sell the horses! Your wife would probably skin you and hang you for bear bait! Definitely be prepared for complete and utter exhaustion, but remember the difference between hunting and killing. Killing is the easy part. The good stories and the memories don't come from "Yeah, I got a drop camp and walked 1 mile and shot a huge bull and then waited for the guy to pack me out". The good stories come from all the pain, suffering and hard work you endured while being a true hunter and putting in the work to truly appreciate the bull you harvest. Definitely don't look at this hunt through rose colored glasses...it's great that before you make a concrete decision on how to do this hunt that you are taking several trips to the area to see for yourself. Once you assess the country and the terrain and your own abilities you will be better able to make the decision that suits you! Good luck to you and don't forget...your wife LOVES packing out game (I hear it's her second favorite part of hunting) so I'm sure she will help if you need it!
Good advice, dhorn just remember everything on here is just that. This is your tag it is your choice DIY or DC. eather way make the very best of it. like i have said be prepared and ready for alot of hard work. like some have said you cant get into enough shape, same goes for the horse also.
Only you can weed through the BS and grab the advice you want, alot of us will live it through you.
To me it just seems some on here have alot to gain for sevices(nothing really wrong with that) just bugs me the way its pushed.
Also the expectation that he should use the tag the way someone else would. It's his tag. If he has a fun hunt and isn't disappointed with whatever the end result is, then the tag wasn't "wasted".
Post by: jackelope on July 10, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
DHorn...I hope you kill the bull of a lifetime. I hope you have the time of your life, and I hope you don't leave meat on the mountain. I hope the bull you kill is all you're hoping for, even if you are only hoping for a 300" bull. It's your hunt, do with it as you see fit. I saw 1st hand what that country can do if it decides to spit snow for a couple days in November last year. I couldn't even get to the Teepee trailhead and I was in a 4x4 truck with 4 chains and no stock trailer.
Post by: Todd_ID on July 10, 2011, 09:21:48 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 10, 2011, 09:28:30 PM
Post by: bucklucky on July 10, 2011, 09:46:09 PM
Post by: rtspring on July 10, 2011, 09:56:06 PM
I have been in this area long ago as a teenager with really good legs and strong as hell. Man those friggin hills will kill most men.
I offer you good luck and hope your dreams come true, can't wait to hear the stories of how it all went down...
RTSPRING.
Post by: dhorn on July 11, 2011, 08:27:54 AM
Post by: njc89 on July 13, 2011, 07:34:39 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on July 13, 2011, 07:35:43 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on July 13, 2011, 07:39:34 AM
does anyone know if the roads to Teepee or Diamond Peak are opened up yet?
teepee has been open for awhile :)
Post by: dhorn on July 13, 2011, 08:47:41 AM
Post by: toyman2 on July 14, 2011, 12:44:14 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on July 14, 2011, 05:53:36 PM
as far as i can tell, all the roads on the west part are open, however over east i did hear that there is still snow in alot of places. Pomeroy could not get there ambulance to Clear Water Gard StationThat had to have been because of Peola Rd being closed out of Pomeroy and not because of snow. I drove to Clearwater 3 weeks ago without any snow at all going up Peola Rd to Iron Springs Rd then to Clearwater and down Lick Creek. I saw in Pomeroy there's a detour sign to get you around the Peola Rd closure; should be no problem.
Post by: wehunt on July 14, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 14, 2011, 10:33:07 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 17, 2011, 08:52:55 PM
Post by: ridgefire on July 17, 2011, 09:36:26 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 17, 2011, 09:42:11 PM
Post by: toyman2 on July 17, 2011, 10:50:01 PM
Post by: dhorn on July 17, 2011, 10:55:12 PM
Post by: woodywsu on July 18, 2011, 09:31:35 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 18, 2011, 09:40:00 AM
21 pages and no scouting pics.
:yeah: :dunno:
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on July 18, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
4th of July you couldn't get to Sunset from Pomeroy. There was a 1/4 mile of snow 4 ft deep just past the North South Trail. Not sure exactly where they were needed but Toyman is right Pomeroy couldn't get to there because of snow. They had to have an assist from Asotin county.as far as i can tell, all the roads on the west part are open, however over east i did hear that there is still snow in alot of places. Pomeroy could not get there ambulance to Clear Water Gard StationThat had to have been because of Peola Rd being closed out of Pomeroy and not because of snow. I drove to Clearwater 3 weeks ago without any snow at all going up Peola Rd to Iron Springs Rd then to Clearwater and down Lick Creek. I saw in Pomeroy there's a detour sign to get you around the Peola Rd closure; should be no problem.
The detour takes you zig zaging through the fields and you join Peola/3K/Mtn Road not too far from the Lone Fir (where you drop down to Columbia Center).
You couldn't drop down from Misery to the Grande Ronde either because of snow and trees. Over around Wikiup and Misery there are alot of trees down.
Post by: dhorn on July 18, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
Post by: bucklucky on July 18, 2011, 09:59:54 AM
being the first scouting trip i had a little more on my mind than taking pictures! i will definitely do that on the next trip!!
Take the dang pictures, I kick myself for doing the same thing you are and not taking a few extra minutes here and there to break out the camera :chuckle: But I do understand completely :chuckle:
Post by: JLS on July 19, 2011, 12:10:56 AM
Unfortunately, quite the opposite.
Post by: bullcanyon on July 19, 2011, 04:59:27 AM
Post by: dhorn on July 19, 2011, 06:05:00 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2011, 09:16:15 AM
With that said....
Post by: Huntnphish on July 19, 2011, 11:21:28 AM
I wish I took a lot more pictures than I did. I still go back and look at the pictures and relive my hunt. After the hunt is over, it's all you got till next time. I'm sure it seems silly that I post the same pics over and over all the time, but there's something about that country that gets me and I like seeing it over and over.
With that said....
Thats why you should bring a buddy with a camera along. ;)
Post by: Woodchuck on July 19, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: Huntnphish on July 19, 2011, 02:00:06 PM
When I finally draw my permit you are invited. ;)
Just let me know when to be at the trail head. :tup:
Post by: jackelope on July 19, 2011, 02:00:18 PM
I wish I took a lot more pictures than I did. I still go back and look at the pictures and relive my hunt. After the hunt is over, it's all you got till next time. I'm sure it seems silly that I post the same pics over and over all the time, but there's something about that country that gets me and I like seeing it over and over.
With that said....
Thats why you should bring a buddy with a camera along. ;)
I think we had 3. :chuckle: Too much time looking for some very elusive deer and no time spent taking pics. The pics that were taken by my chief guide and photographer were worth it though.
:tup:
Post by: Woodchuck on July 19, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
count on it. :tup:When I finally draw my permit you are invited. ;)
Just let me know when to be at the trail head. :tup:
Post by: dhorn on July 19, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on July 21, 2011, 09:19:37 AM
Here're a couple pictures from the area.
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Post by: ridgefire on July 21, 2011, 09:14:18 PM
Post by: FarBeyondDriven on August 24, 2011, 08:02:11 AM
Post by: HoopsNHorns on August 24, 2011, 08:12:18 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on August 24, 2011, 08:20:19 AM
So...is that some sort of "sobriety test" you have to pass to get to your bunk, or just an obstacle course so you can get a 2 minute head start on the rest of the camp on opening morning...? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: nwhunter on August 24, 2011, 08:30:58 AM
Post by: dhorn on September 05, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 05, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
dhorn I hope you get a nice elk out of there!!!!
Post by: Todd_ID on September 05, 2011, 09:52:22 PM
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 05, 2011, 10:10:26 PM
I'll bet a dollar that place doesn't look like that the next time someone is able to get in there to see it. Just heard from the guy who set the camp up that he got it out through choking smoke and that helicopters, smoke jumpers and water bombers were buzzing all over as he was heading out. Fire must have gotten either out of control or was threatening to blow up into a monster with the hot and dry weather coming the next 10 days.
Must be a new fire I don't see anything on the NICC report and NWCC report. I hope they get it before it get out of control!!!
Post by: mtncook on September 05, 2011, 10:31:18 PM
Dropped tanker load of retardent and multiple chopper water drops.. FS says unsafe for ground crews as there is no Safety Zone.. Why did they not do a chopper drop when it was small???????
mtncook
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 05, 2011, 11:37:05 PM
Post by: mtncook on September 06, 2011, 06:11:50 AM
mtncook
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on September 06, 2011, 10:20:44 AM
http://66.134.213.74/WildWeb/WCOR-BMCopen.htm (http://66.134.213.74/WildWeb/WCOR-BMCopen.htm)
Google earth map of the incident locations
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://66.134.213.74/WildEarth/WildCAD_OR-BMC.kml (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://66.134.213.74/WildEarth/WildCAD_OR-BMC.kml)
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 06, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
The FS is in charge, it's on their land. No name yet, they are doing their normal mismanagement.
Ahh I have had been on many mob fires where these teams have royal messed up. The fires are not big enough to have a IMT I, II, or III team assigned to it till the FS decides they want to try to start a back fire. :bash: :bash:
I wish the best of luck for all the hunters that are going to be hunting there!!!! And hope it doesn't affect your business mtncook.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 10, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
I wish you the best in your hunt and will be following this thread for sure..
Post by: dhorn on September 11, 2011, 07:51:41 PM
Post by: walleye1 on September 11, 2011, 09:38:23 PM
Post by: dhorn on September 11, 2011, 09:41:11 PM
Post by: dhorn on October 15, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
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Post by: bucklucky on October 15, 2011, 10:02:26 PM
Post by: dhorn on October 15, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Post by: dhorn on October 15, 2011, 10:06:23 PM
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Post by: bucklucky on October 15, 2011, 10:07:22 PM
Post by: dhorn on October 15, 2011, 10:12:20 PM
Post by: bucklucky on October 16, 2011, 08:20:37 AM
hope the bull is a little more respectable though!!!!
Well make up for it with the Bull then :chuckle: Nothing wrong with that buck in the general season !!
Post by: dhorn on October 16, 2011, 09:14:28 AM
Post by: dhorn on October 19, 2011, 09:40:57 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 20, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
Post by: bucklucky on October 20, 2011, 03:28:49 PM
Post by: SnipeHunter on October 20, 2011, 03:37:51 PM
Post by: toyman2 on October 21, 2011, 04:56:04 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 21, 2011, 05:47:14 PM
Post by: dhorn on October 21, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: bucklucky on October 21, 2011, 11:13:28 PM
Post by: dhorn on October 22, 2011, 04:33:49 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 23, 2011, 02:50:45 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 23, 2011, 12:17:58 PM
thanks charlie! hopefully i am having to make a trip over there when i get back!!
You can just come by my camp and I can save you the trip since I will be going there after the season anyway.
Good luck on your hunt..
Post by: bucklucky on October 24, 2011, 12:13:36 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on October 24, 2011, 12:29:21 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 24, 2011, 03:04:14 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 24, 2011, 05:54:48 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 24, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
Post by: toyman2 on October 24, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2011, 07:38:02 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 25, 2011, 07:57:08 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on October 25, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
Post by: HUNT on October 25, 2011, 08:13:36 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 25, 2011, 08:53:47 AM
SOMEONE GO UP THERE AND GET A PICTURE :camp:
:yeah: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2011, 09:03:18 AM
SOMEONE GO UP THERE AND GET A PICTURE :camp:
It's only about 6.5 hours or so, Chuck, lets go.
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 25, 2011, 09:18:34 AM
SOMEONE GO UP THERE AND GET A PICTURE :camp:
It's only about 6.5 hours or so, Chuck, lets go.
A motion has been made on the floor and I second that motion, all those in favor say "I". :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on October 25, 2011, 09:27:11 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2011, 09:36:45 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 25, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
Post by: The100Road on October 25, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 25, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
Sorry Guys.............. who's Doug? Is that Rafflemule? has he got his bull yet?
Its Dhorn, Brad is Raffle Mule
Post by: Woodchuck on October 25, 2011, 10:12:37 AM
Post by: bucklucky on October 25, 2011, 10:14:05 AM
Post by: The100Road on October 25, 2011, 10:14:45 AM
Sorry Guys.............. who's Doug? Is that Rafflemule? has he got his bull yet?
Its Dhorn, Brad is Raffle Mule
Got It. Thanks.
Post by: Woodchuck on October 25, 2011, 10:19:27 AM
:chuckle: I dont know how to get to the Blues :dunno:Just go to the sasquatch monument and hang a right, I'm sure that will lead you right to him. ;)
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2011, 12:09:16 PM
:chuckle: I dont know how to get to the Blues :dunno:
Too steep for me. I have a broken shoelace on my hiking boot.
Sorry.
Post by: Woodchuck on October 25, 2011, 12:15:10 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 25, 2011, 12:17:25 PM
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Can't wait to see the pics and hear the story.
Post by: The100Road on October 25, 2011, 01:10:42 PM
Huge congrats to Doug. If he is happy with the bull he killed, then he should not have held out for anything bigger.
Can't wait to see the pics and hear the story.
:yeah:
Post by: 400out on October 25, 2011, 04:27:43 PM
I will give you the only info I have so far. It is a 6x6 and he said it would be right around 300. He is super stoked he has never got a bull before, this is only his second elk! From what I understand he was more jacked up about this than any other animal he has ever gotten! He made a 625 yard shot and the elk rolled another 200 yards down the hill (would have been nice if he would have rolled UP the hill, dang uncooperative elk!! lol). I guess the bull is in a super steep spot so I hope he is very careful bringing it out. Sounds like he has his work cut out for him! From hearing his voice on the super short phone call I got at 10:06 yesterday morning, this will be a hunt he will never forget and I am so glad he got this opportunity! I know he will hear about how he should have held out for a bigger one, but honestly if he had shot anything bigger he probably would have had a heart attack on the spot!:chuckle: :chuckle: Take him that horse Dawn ;)
Post by: 280ackley on October 25, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
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Post by: Huntboy on October 26, 2011, 11:16:32 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 28, 2011, 12:53:15 PM
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Post by: Todd_ID on November 01, 2011, 06:59:40 AM
Post by: firefighter4607 on November 03, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
Post by: bucklucky on November 03, 2011, 12:56:25 PM
Post by: Holg3107 on November 03, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
who's there?
Thursday,
Thursday who?
Damnit Dawn its freakin THURSDAY whats the report??
Post by: dhorn on November 03, 2011, 03:34:16 PM
Post by: dhorn on November 03, 2011, 03:38:59 PM
Post by: bucklucky on November 03, 2011, 03:39:41 PM
Post by: SniperDanWA on November 03, 2011, 03:41:52 PM
Post by: SnipeHunter on November 03, 2011, 03:44:27 PM
I ran into two tagholders in another unit over the weekend and they were giving up by Tuesday!!! Tag soup for them. Damn shame some people put in for these awesome tags and don't have a clue what they are getting into, or just think that it's a slam dunk deal. :o :o
Post by: Holg3107 on November 03, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
Post by: dhorn on November 03, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 03, 2011, 04:13:49 PM
Post by: RaffleMule on November 03, 2011, 04:44:48 PM
When I first drew the raffle tag this is one of the first threads I started to read about the Blues and it scared the crap out of me. I know you busted your *ss and can appreciate your hard work. Just because a guy draws a great tag doesn't make it easy, you definitely earned those bulls.
Thanks for sharing your adventure.
Post by: Woodchuck on November 03, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
Post by: firefighter4607 on November 03, 2011, 05:00:07 PM
Post by: njc89 on November 03, 2011, 06:09:22 PM
Post by: iceman91m on November 03, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on November 03, 2011, 09:30:09 PM
You two done well. :)
Post by: runamuk on November 03, 2011, 10:11:25 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on November 04, 2011, 10:01:16 AM
Looks like you tagged out just in time. There's been a steady stream of travel trailers and campers going past the house this morning with several inches of snow on them. I just looked at the snotel info and there's about 2 inches and 33 deg at 4000 ft and 5 inches and 27 deg at 5700 ft.
Post by: buglebuster on November 04, 2011, 10:26:29 AM
Post by: gunnarnewt on November 04, 2011, 02:42:36 PM
Post by: Elkstuffer on November 04, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
Post by: dhorn on November 04, 2011, 07:33:02 PM