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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: jstone on June 25, 2011, 09:58:13 AM

Title: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: jstone on June 25, 2011, 09:58:13 AM: Where would i find a map or something on the web. That has the deer migration routes??
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 25, 2011, 11:02:30 AM: Do they even exist? I thought that was all part of scouting.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: robescc on June 25, 2011, 02:37:53 PM: :yeah:
I know of a good Blacktail rout but that goes to the grave with me. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Brushbuster on June 25, 2011, 02:51:55 PM: I would bet there probably have been some studies on radio collared deer used to track their migration routes. I know where I hunt in Idaho the whitetails migrate out of the High Country to winter near Grangeville & their migration has been studied by using collared deer. Good Luck & let me know if you find anything for E. WA deer. You may also want to check with area biologists.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on June 25, 2011, 02:53:54 PM: Look for these. :chuckle: :chuckle:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F157%2F383275168_6a91879359_o.jpg&hash=44445bf506106f9aa8c06a8595ca242b2a77d747)
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: oldleclercrd on June 25, 2011, 05:12:49 PM: :yeah: Thats funny right there I don't care who you are!
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: dawhunt on June 25, 2011, 05:58:06 PM: Quote from: jeepasaurusrex on June 25, 2011, 02:53:54 PM
Look for these. :chuckle: :chuckle:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F157%2F383275168_6a91879359_o.jpg&hash=44445bf506106f9aa8c06a8595ca242b2a77d747)

:IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Bob
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: dawhunt on June 25, 2011, 05:58:43 PM: Pacific Crest Trail

Bob
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: mazama on June 25, 2011, 06:10:31 PM: I have abook called the okanogen mule deer,it has their migration routes,it was put out by game dept 1978,106 pages
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Smokepole on June 25, 2011, 06:51:28 PM: Quote from: mazama on June 25, 2011, 06:10:31 PM
I have abook called the okanogen mule deer,it has their migration routes,it was put out by game dept 1978,106 pages

That's a good book. Don Zeigler, author. Out of print, I think, but I've seen used copies for sale.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: jackelope on June 25, 2011, 11:10:09 PM: Quote from: Brushbuster on June 25, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
I would bet there probably have been some studies on radio collared deer used to track their migration routes. I know where I hunt in Idaho the whitetails migrate out of the High Country to winter near Grangeville & their migration has been studied by using collared deer. Good Luck & let me know if you find anything for E. WA deer. You may also want to check with area biologists.

I would bet that if you did a little looking, you could find something like that for a few areas in Washington too. I would also bet you'd find it in a place you would not expect it to be found. As in...I'd bet it wasn't put out by the game dept.
;)
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Smokepole on June 27, 2011, 06:24:32 PM: If you really want to learn about the migration habits of Okanogan mule deer, read Zeigler's book. Then learn to read a topographical map. If they're moving, mulies usually travel the path of least resistance, just like humans -- as long as there is good cover.

True, Zeigler was a game dept. employee, but the book is thorough and complete. Possibly the best resource for hunters ever developed by the WDFW.

I have read the book, and it gave me a better understanding of Okanogan mule deer, and their habits.

How many have read Zeigler's book?
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: jstone on June 27, 2011, 06:28:18 PM: Thanks i will look for that book. :)
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Wea300mag on June 28, 2011, 08:07:43 PM: Thompson Ridge in the Gardner unit used to be a route back in the day (30 years ago). It's pretty slim pickings these days though.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: alecvg on June 28, 2011, 08:20:02 PM: Thanks for the info guys, I just ordered the book
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Deer slayer on June 29, 2011, 10:13:25 PM: Quote from: jeepasaurusrex on June 25, 2011, 02:53:54 PM
Look for these. :chuckle: :chuckle:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F157%2F383275168_6a91879359_o.jpg&hash=44445bf506106f9aa8c06a8595ca242b2a77d747)
I love it. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 29, 2011, 10:15:13 PM: That one is premo :chuckle: All the ones around here have about 20 bullet holes in them :chuckle: You should know that slayer :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on June 30, 2011, 05:36:24 AM: Say what you want, but I would put a Redneck up against any gangstuh in a drive by shooting. Gangstuhs spray and maybe hit one human sized target in 100 rounds. A Redneck can put a nice tight group in a deer crossing sign at 60mph. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 30, 2011, 05:45:40 AM: Just go up into the Entiat and follow the trails back into the wilderness.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: grundy53 on June 30, 2011, 02:53:26 PM: Quote from: alecvg on June 28, 2011, 08:20:02 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I just ordered the book

Me too. Sounds like a really good book to have. Been hunting in Okanogan county for awhile now but you can never have too much knowledge.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: grundy53 on July 15, 2011, 08:26:08 AM: Quote from: grundy53 on June 30, 2011, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: alecvg on June 28, 2011, 08:20:02 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I just ordered the book

Me too. Sounds like a really good book to have. Been hunting in Okanogan county for awhile now but you can never have too much knowledge.

I'm pissed. I bought this book off amazon and it never came. I checked my purchase history and it wasn't there. Now there is only one copy left but they want $300 dollars for it... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: I check and made sure when I bought it. It said it went through.... :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 08:34:23 AM: ouch, ive had that happen :bash:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: mazama on July 15, 2011, 08:38:31 PM: How much are those books worth,i might auction one of mine off.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 09:02:05 PM: I'm now accepting all book donations
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: MtnMuley on July 15, 2011, 09:16:58 PM: No offense, but I own the book, and don't find it too useful at all. A lot of information that's outdated for today's herds. :twocents:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 09:21:58 PM: the book would be useful in learning behavioral aspects of the deer
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: MtnMuley on July 15, 2011, 09:42:19 PM: Their behavior has changed a lot. Back then you could easily go a day in mid Nov without seeing a buck. Nowdays, I can see 30 bucks a day in any NCW gmu in mid Nov.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: grundy53 on July 15, 2011, 09:47:45 PM: I'm not so much pissed that I didn't get the book. I'm more mad that they screwed up my order.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 09:55:33 PM: Quote from: MtnMuley on July 15, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
Their behavior has changed a lot. Back then you could easily go a day in mid Nov without seeing a buck. Nowdays, I can see 30 bucks a day in any NCW gmu in mid Nov.

I dunno about that.. I think its not so much the deer changing behavior but the general season doesnt go from halloween until the end of November like back in the day (the time when you werent seeing 30 bucks a day). After the general season the deer go back and start doing their own thing again and that could be why your seeing 30 bucks every time you go out
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 09:58:17 PM: im just saying the book is still useful in that you learn about their behavior in the way of: what they eat, the habitat they like ect.. I dont think that muley behavior which has evolved over geologic time will have changed in our small scope of existence
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: MtnMuley on July 15, 2011, 10:08:35 PM: I agree thats why we see lots of bucks these days during that time frame, but that is a change in deer behavior.
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 10:19:03 PM: its not a change in deer behavior though because the deer always has been always will be afraid of humans.. a change in behavior would be if they walked right up to you and attacked you as demonstrated in video below

deer attacks man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxIYX-CHFQ#)

Now thatd put a whole new spin on "the challenge of the hunt" :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: MtnMuley on July 15, 2011, 10:22:23 PM: I rest my case. It's my bedtime, and I don't feel like arguing.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer Migration Routes
Post by: Armadillo on July 15, 2011, 10:22:35 PM: no animals were harmed in the making of that video, just one dumb sumbich