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Title: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on June 27, 2011, 07:37:52 AM
Headin over to scout some and tool around in the jeep this weekend. I hear that most of ways into the area washed out. So I'm curious if anybody has been up and around the area. One of my partners drew the Bull for modern, so gotta work on some scouting.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: time2hunt on June 27, 2011, 07:57:16 AM
Both the taneum and manashtash are washed out and the bad news is they might not fix either road this year. Be aware they wrote tickets to the jeepers that drove/winched through the wash a couple weeks ago in the manashtash.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Elkrunner on June 27, 2011, 08:04:04 AM
It sounds like there could be some good hunting up there if a guy wanted to do some serious hiking or mountain biking.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Lucky Eric on June 27, 2011, 08:18:19 AM
Does anyone know if all the roads that go in there are closed and where at? I'm sure there is alot of guys that camp/hunt up there that are now screwed. I know there is still acsess via the 4x4 trails from the 410 side.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: 6x6in6 on June 27, 2011, 08:35:16 AM
You can get up there via Joe Watt canyon.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on June 27, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
Ya you can get up thru Joe watt and by going up woods and steele rd up to five corners on peoh point then back down the Taneum rd and back up to tamarack to. Friend of mine who lives over there talked to forest service and said they were gunna fix the taneum and buck meadows but not until july they figured when water slowed down. From what i've seen maybe longer.. still alot water comin down. Ya didnt want to go thru washes, figured somebody with eyeballs be around. Thanks all been awhile since I been on here. can't wait to make it over! I'll be in silver dodge with a red jeep if anybody in the area.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: rosscrazyelk on June 27, 2011, 07:48:32 PM
that is gonna piss off those people who hunt there if they cant get in.. only one way in. Traffic jam
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: crazyantler on June 27, 2011, 08:43:09 PM
You should be able to take the hutchins road out of Joe watt and come around into Tamarack.  Does anyone know if Hutchins has had flood problems?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: stickbuck on June 27, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
I hope this link works out so you all can see the devastation from the flooding. Knowing the area pretty well, it's hard to imagine this after seeing these pics. It must have been pretty amazing to see in person.


http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.205023762869622 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.205023762869622)
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: sled on June 27, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
  Hutchins Rd is open all the way to the top.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Rhinoron247 on June 27, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
All of the suggestions are viable ways to get in there.  Have had a glorious and quite time on my horse in the area.  A part of me wishes they won't fix the roads.  I Have seen more un-disturbed wild life this year than ever before and a lot less  "ass hats" dumping crap and doing stupid stuff.   Just my opinion!     
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: jstone on June 28, 2011, 07:43:37 AM
That would be some great hunting up where i go if the *censored*s where not there. Would be harder to get there, But worth it..
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: crazyantler on June 28, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
I agree about keeping it closed.  Even though I have the peaches ridge tag for bull elk this year I am willing to do more work to preserve less preasure on the animals.  The pictures of the flooding are crazy.  Thanks for sharing. 
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: iRem on June 28, 2011, 09:08:24 PM
  :yeah:
Amazing pics
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bone head on June 28, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
if the rds were open before they washed out and if theres no closed signs then go and keep going until they do post it.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: time2hunt on June 28, 2011, 09:33:12 PM
Everything is posted and barricaded
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: crazyantler on June 28, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
Is the woods and steele road marked at the bottom.  I heard one can get into the area through that route.  Do you take the road out of south cle elum and parallel the power lines going west?  I was going to go explore that west end of tanuem in case I decide to hunt that side for my late bull tag.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Gamblin Guy on June 28, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
if the rds were open before they washed out and if theres no closed signs then go and keep going until they do post it.

I'd be careful, I was up there friday night and someone has torn the signs down on the Murray Road....ignorance is not a defense.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Rhinoron247 on June 28, 2011, 10:03:50 PM
Snapped this pic on my phone yesterday.  Love the lack of pressure up there. 
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on June 29, 2011, 11:47:52 AM
Looks good, like to see animals in there. Bringing couple of kids with me this weekend, so hopefully get to see some for the kids for sure. Wanna get into and around as much of area as possible. Itchin for the season already, lack of summer and fall like weather will do that......
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 01, 2011, 07:04:37 AM
well jeep all ready to go just gotta fuel it up and load on trailer.Hoping to get some good pics this weekend. I'm gonna head on up to quartz to get some pics from up there, should be clear, spectacular view from up there!
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 01, 2011, 08:32:05 AM
I'm going to head over tomorrow afternoon to hang a few stands for September.   I'm taking my car to save on gas money.  I will try to take some pictures if I get down by the washout.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Elkrunner on July 01, 2011, 08:33:07 AM
Sounds like you guys should have a fun weekend.  Be safe and bring back some pics.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: turbo on July 01, 2011, 09:18:27 AM
They should do a timber sale and let the loggers help fix the roads?? Does that ever happen?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: turbo on July 01, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
They should do a timber sale and let the loggers help fix the roads?? Does that ever happen? I hope they fix it to keep pressure off other areas... I stopped hunting up there years ago as it's just an azz hat pumpkin patch. Where are all of those pumpkins going to go if they can't hunt there???
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: canyelk48 on July 07, 2011, 08:53:23 AM
As of yesterday, July 7th, according to the Cle Elum Ranger Station, they've closed off the entire area from the SE side of Taneum Rd all the way over to Manastash Rd to ALL MOTORIZED VEHICLES.  This includes Joe Watt Canyon and Robinson Canyon.  No plans to make repairs to any of the roads until next Summer!  Anyone have better info than this, i.e., can you get to Manastash Campgrounds another way?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 07, 2011, 09:03:52 AM
I drove up in ther on saturday up joe watt, no blockages. There is a road block at tamarack springs and down around bottom at the lt murray. Also up toward quartz I hear is blocked off too. Don't know about robinson but joe watt was accessable. Just most of all the top toward 3300 road closed off down to taneum rd.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Recurve-Elk on July 09, 2011, 12:26:43 PM
As of yesterday, July 7th, according to the Cle Elum Ranger Station, they've closed off the entire area from the SE side of Taneum Rd all the way over to Manastash Rd to ALL MOTORIZED VEHICLES.  This includes Joe Watt Canyon and Robinson Canyon.  No plans to make repairs to any of the roads until next Summer!  Anyone have better info than this, i.e., can you get to Manastash Campgrounds another way?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 11, 2011, 12:46:01 PM
Just fyi if your goin to go up around there be careful. I personally know somebody that did and went around barricades(because they have been moved) and they got a ticket but no fine was actually writin on it cause they gonna turn itover to the prosocuter to see what they wanna do with it.  :bash: :bdid:
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Gamblin Guy on July 11, 2011, 12:59:38 PM
I turned in an illegal fire several years ago that some yahoo had going in the LT and I remember talking to the deputy after he "educated" the offender.  He told me the judges in the county insisted on a mandatory appearance in court for illegal fires, I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same things with those that choose to go around the barricades. 
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 11, 2011, 01:13:07 PM
Looks good, like to see animals in there. Bringing couple of kids with me this weekend, so hopefully get to see some for the kids for sure. Wanna get into and around as much of area as possible. Itchin for the season already, lack of summer and fall like weather will do that......
  :yeah:  I was thinking the same thing ... :tup:
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bigtex on July 11, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
Just fyi if your goin to go up around there be careful. I personally know somebody that did and went around barricades(because they have been moved) and they got a ticket but no fine was actually writin on it cause they gonna turn itover to the prosocuter to see what they wanna do with it.  :bash: :bdid:

Violating a road closed sign/barrier is a mandatory court appearance statewide. A lot of people think that officers can chose to either make a court appearance mandatory or give a fine, that is not true with state/city/county officers. Officers are given what is known as a "bail schedule" which lists all offenses and their fines or if a court appearance is mandatory. However at the federal level (such as BLM, USFS, USFWS, NPS) they can make ANY federal citation a mandatory court appearance, even something like a parking ticket.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on July 12, 2011, 08:45:41 AM
  And if the violator is TRIBAL?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bigtex on July 12, 2011, 09:59:36 AM
  And if the violator is TRIBAL?

Violating a road closure is not a fish and wildlife law violation (RCW 77). It is a traffic/driving violation (RCW 46). Tribal members have to follow RCW 46 laws just like every other citizen.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bgreen on July 12, 2011, 07:23:39 PM
So can you get to Hereford meadows area off of the 3100 rd?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 12, 2011, 07:29:19 PM
  And if the violator is TRIBAL?

Violating a road closure is not a fish and wildlife law violation (RCW 77). It is a traffic/driving violation (RCW 46). Tribal members have to follow RCW 46 laws just like every other citizen.


But they don't.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bigtex on July 12, 2011, 09:39:50 PM
  And if the violator is TRIBAL?

Violating a road closure is not a fish and wildlife law violation (RCW 77). It is a traffic/driving violation (RCW 46). Tribal members have to follow RCW 46 laws just like every other citizen.


But they don't.

The road closed regulations I am referring to are signs that are used for dangerous situations or when roads are permanently closed, not for roads that are closed such as red dot areas or winter wildlife closure areas. Those fall under RCW 77.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on July 14, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
  And if the violator is TRIBAL?

Violating a road closure is not a fish and wildlife law violation (RCW 77). It is a traffic/driving violation (RCW 46). Tribal members have to follow RCW 46 laws just like every other citizen.


But they don't.

The road closed regulations I am referring to are signs that are used for dangerous situations or when roads are permanently closed, not for roads that are closed such as red dot areas or winter wildlife closure areas. Those fall under RCW 77.


CAN and would they be CITED?? 
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 14, 2011, 12:36:07 PM
yep it can and it has
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bigtex on July 14, 2011, 03:49:53 PM
  And if the violator is TRIBAL?

Violating a road closure is not a fish and wildlife law violation (RCW 77). It is a traffic/driving violation (RCW 46). Tribal members have to follow RCW 46 laws just like every other citizen.


But they don't.

The road closed regulations I am referring to are signs that are used for dangerous situations or when roads are permanently closed, not for roads that are closed such as red dot areas or winter wildlife closure areas. Those fall under RCW 77.


CAN and would they be CITED??

For what? I've listed atleast three different situations.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on July 14, 2011, 08:17:30 PM
The last Two.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: dreamingbig on July 14, 2011, 08:45:24 PM
I'm going to head over tomorrow afternoon to hang a few stands for September.   I'm taking my car to save on gas money.  I will try to take some pictures if I get down by the washout.

Did you take your snow shoes?  Were you able to make it into your spots?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 14, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
Getting back on track, do any of you know if we will have vehicle access to Tamarack Springs this Oct? I have not been that way yet this year. Reading through the posts some say there is access now and some say there isn't????? May just have to take a look at it myself weekend after this one.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 15, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
Ya been speaking with forest service and the game dept. and theer is no money in the budget to fix any of the issue of roads in and around there. They are blocked at the springs from joe watt side and can't get to the mor beyond thta point, same goes for around the bottom towards willow gulch it is barricaded where the lt murray boundry is. Over half of access to the area will be walk in only, no vehicles or camping will be past that. Unless you want to pack all ur stuff into beyond that point. :bash:
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: bobcat on July 15, 2011, 09:35:14 AM
Should make for some great hunting then, for people willing to hike in. I would bet that there will be plenty of hunters going in on ATV's though, when deer and elk season opens.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 15, 2011, 09:41:45 AM
Already gets plenty of that traffic,  :twocents:
imagine the parking lot at the barricades, gonna be a zoo if they dont open some access.
can you get to Taneum Junction coming over Peoh Point ?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Recurve-Elk on July 15, 2011, 10:00:32 AM
I hope some of the smaller roads never get fixed.  Fix the arterials, but I think the 340 could use some road closures.  It would make for some nice plots of land with out roads, boasting hopefully more animals.  But I sure hope they fix up the main roads or its probably going to be a storm up there.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: longashes on July 15, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
How far up can you get through Manatash?
I'll probably find out this weekend.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: Recurve-Elk on July 15, 2011, 10:14:04 AM
Manastash is closed to local traffic only at the very bottom.  At least that was the case around 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 15, 2011, 12:16:10 PM
Peoh had awash out last i heard also, but even if ,no cause the bottom up 3330 is gated before the bridge. The manashtash part not sure if fixed yet, but thats up to the county to fix. Problem being where and will the forest service block off up higher once the county fixes the road at the bottom. Been doing alot of callin round on this. So any scounting info as far as access points would be great. :dunno:
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: elkcane on July 22, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
I think we are headin back up in there in a couple of weeks to see how things are. Anybody been up in there lately?
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 22, 2011, 08:13:15 AM
 :dunno:
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: mtndew on July 22, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
I think we are headin back up in there in a couple of weeks to see how things are. Anybody been up in there lately

Haven't been back since we saw you at the bottom, headed back in a week or two.
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: wsucouga on August 08, 2011, 11:27:04 PM
Any updates on the closures??
Title: Re: tamarack springs
Post by: wall of wood camp on August 09, 2011, 05:32:50 PM
The head Ranger made some decisions August 1st and this is what I was sent.

Road Closures: 3330 from the bottom up to Gooseberry Flat (2 Miles)
3100 from Manastash Sno-park to Barber Springs (1 mile)
3100 from 3120 junction to Quartz Mountain (6 miles)

Spot Closures (500 feet or Less)
3111-115 at forest boundary
3100 at crossing of manastash creek
3120 at washout approximateley mile point 2.0

Legal access:
All trails, including 4x4 trails are open for their normal use
You can legally access the National forest via Tamarack Springs (from Joe Watt Canyon and Hutchins Road)
Any road not listed which is normally open is open
All roads, trails, and land areas are open for non-motorized travel
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