Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 12:34:34 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on June 27, 2011, 01:50:12 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 01:59:44 PM
Post by: Crunchy on June 27, 2011, 02:26:31 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on June 27, 2011, 02:46:40 PM
Get you get to go with him to learn your way around the unit a little? Cow tags should be golden. Good luck.I used to hunt the archery season in what is now Lewis River at the boarder, it was a small GMU called something else at the time, Lewis River incorporated it a few years back. The darn elk on the toutle side would come to the road but wouldn't cross it. It was a 3 mile walk down to the road so 3 mile hike straight up will be a pain if we have to do it. Hopefully the gates on the other side will be open and we can drive in a ways. My mother in law and her husband are in the advanced hunter program and may be volunteering to man the gates during the season if that is an option.
Post by: bearmanric on June 27, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 27, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 02:55:10 PM
You must be talking about the Marble up the 7400 to the 5500. We use to be able to drive up to the 5500 and we would hike in an old spur in the Marble. There were a couple guys I met up there in the later 90's that were pretty cool. We killed a few elk up that way. That is another area I will be looking at.Get you get to go with him to learn your way around the unit a little? Cow tags should be golden. Good luck.I used to hunt the archery season in what is now Lewis River at the boarder, it was a small GMU called something else at the time, Lewis River incorporated it a few years back. The darn elk on the toutle side would come to the road but wouldn't cross it. It was a 3 mile walk down to the road so 3 mile hike straight up will be a pain if we have to do it. Hopefully the gates on the other side will be open and we can drive in a ways. My mother in law and her husband are in the advanced hunter program and may be volunteering to man the gates during the season if that is an option.
Post by: bearmanric on June 27, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
Quality elk rifle toutle. 5-15 nov. cant wait. trying to find a Weyerhouser map. RickI wonder if someone could call Weyerhaeuser directly and get it from them. I have an old number I found for their communication center. 360-425-2150. No idea if this is still good. If so it will be a good number to keep on you just in case there is an emergency and need something.
Post by: Coweemanslayer on June 27, 2011, 03:20:44 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on June 27, 2011, 03:32:23 PM
Yep that was it, Marble, I kept wanting to say Margaret. We were up at the top in the late 90s, my father in law is the one that shot the the big cougar with his bow. That is all we got that year but did well on elk the rest of the time. Nate had a big camp at the end of the road we were just before him with a camper and a wall tent.You must be talking about the Marble up the 7400 to the 5500. We use to be able to drive up to the 5500 and we would hike in an old spur in the Marble. There were a couple guys I met up there in the later 90's that were pretty cool. We killed a few elk up that way. That is another area I will be looking at.Get you get to go with him to learn your way around the unit a little? Cow tags should be golden. Good luck.I used to hunt the archery season in what is now Lewis River at the boarder, it was a small GMU called something else at the time, Lewis River incorporated it a few years back. The darn elk on the toutle side would come to the road but wouldn't cross it. It was a 3 mile walk down to the road so 3 mile hike straight up will be a pain if we have to do it. Hopefully the gates on the other side will be open and we can drive in a ways. My mother in law and her husband are in the advanced hunter program and may be volunteering to man the gates during the season if that is an option.
Post by: bearmanric on June 27, 2011, 03:40:14 PM
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Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
Post by: elk79 on June 27, 2011, 04:04:28 PM
Post by: RGB on June 27, 2011, 04:33:56 PM
Post by: Cordes10 on June 27, 2011, 06:15:09 PM
Braden
Post by: Fishnclifff on June 27, 2011, 07:49:33 PM
The logged the 7200 mainline at the south of the last bridge. Around Lake View peak area, last season.
That herd is probably scattered all over.
I got my bull up on the 1490 rd, on the top of the pass.
Lot of track in the snow up on elk mt. last year.
Post by: RadSav on June 27, 2011, 08:06:07 PM
I drew the Quality Bull tag with a group of 8 members for the toutle for archery season. Only reason i put in for it was because of the groups desicion, Im excited to learn the unit but all 7 of the other hunters are not hunting the early season in the Toutle, so i am flyin solo... So i was hoping for maybe a few pointers or anything that someone could help out, that would be awesome! Good luck to all tag holders and pray for some rain that way it doesn't get shut down like a couple years ago!!
Braden
My tip -- Join your other seven buddies :IBCOOL: My bribe check should be good in a couple of days. Let everyone else know too! I can probably afford a few more generous donations to head their way ;)
You should have a great time with or without them - Good luck.
Post by: Wake1 on June 27, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Post by: Antlershed on June 27, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
Rick- As others have mentioned, the store in toutle has the map. That's where I got mine last year.
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 08:33:16 PM
Post by: Antlershed on June 27, 2011, 08:42:23 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
I think you are correct, DS. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the SFT road is the 4100. That is the way we went in last year for my cow tag.Isnt it within a rock throw from the village of Toutle?
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on June 27, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
When my group drew archery tags three years ago we camped on dnr land and walked into the weyco land. The cool part was after we got one down we contacted the weyco hotline and security opened the gate for me to drive in and retrieve the fruits of the hunt.
Happy hunting
Post by: Wake1 on June 27, 2011, 08:54:45 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 27, 2011, 09:02:40 PM
Thanks for the info guys. That is the way I went in. Thought I was at the end. Maybe not. Have lots of time to find my way. Wish it wasn't a $100.00 bill every time I went down there but oh well just make the price per pound go up. Good luck everyone. Can't wait to hear all the stories and see the pictures.The gate should be at the bridge.
Post by: Antlershed on June 27, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
You go down the road that is straight across from the Toutle store. Once on that road, you have to veer right onto another road (I will check road names on my map when I get back from Chelan tomorrow). After that, you just stay to the right on the mainline along the river. The gate you are referrin to at the bridge was open during my cow hunt last year.I think you are correct, DS. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the SFT road is the 4100. That is the way we went in last year for my cow tag.Isnt it within a rock throw from the village of Toutle?
The one thing I just remembered about my newer Weyco map is that the big chunks of state land do not have the roads labeled on the map.
Post by: kalamasasquatch on June 27, 2011, 10:24:06 PM
Post by: MADMAX on June 28, 2011, 05:57:41 AM
I have recieved some good info from guys on here and that has been much appreciated.
Now a couple more trips down to decide if I go in from the north or southside.
Thanks again to all
I'll be camped either at Kid valley or Cougar RV parks depending on my access choice.
getting MT bikes ready and making a game cart trailer next up.
Post by: CavemantheHunter on June 28, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
Post by: frostman on June 28, 2011, 11:34:33 AM
From what I saw in there (my first time in the area) should be opportunity opening day. We will be in there on opener, back to work for a few days and back in 'em hopefully Friday night Sept 9th.
My wife and my freezer are looking for a nice fat cow elk!
Post by: HOYT6.0 on June 28, 2011, 11:46:11 AM
My bro-in-law and I drew archery cow tags. My first year with bow for elk. Took a side trip to the Loo-Witt line and headed up 3000 line to the south. Still a fair amount of snow up around 3500'.
From what I saw in there (my first time in the area) should be opportunity opening day. We will be in there on opener, back to work for a few days and back in 'em hopefully Friday night Sept 9th.
My wife and my freezer are looking for a nice fat cow elk!
My group also drew this tag. 4 of us. We will be up there as well. Should be a good time...
Post by: Deer slayer on June 29, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
Believe me it will be a good time. Especially if you have a good group of people to hunt with.My bro-in-law and I drew archery cow tags. My first year with bow for elk. Took a side trip to the Loo-Witt line and headed up 3000 line to the south. Still a fair amount of snow up around 3500'.
From what I saw in there (my first time in the area) should be opportunity opening day. We will be in there on opener, back to work for a few days and back in 'em hopefully Friday night Sept 9th.
My wife and my freezer are looking for a nice fat cow elk!
My group also drew this tag. 4 of us. We will be up there as well. Should be a good time...
Post by: HOYT6.0 on June 29, 2011, 06:45:20 PM
Believe me it will be a good time. Especially if you have a good group of people to hunt with.My bro-in-law and I drew archery cow tags. My first year with bow for elk. Took a side trip to the Loo-Witt line and headed up 3000 line to the south. Still a fair amount of snow up around 3500'.
From what I saw in there (my first time in the area) should be opportunity opening day. We will be in there on opener, back to work for a few days and back in 'em hopefully Friday night Sept 9th.
My wife and my freezer are looking for a nice fat cow elk!
My group also drew this tag. 4 of us. We will be up there as well. Should be a good time...
Hope to see you up there. I will keep in contact and let you know were we will be camped. I have some cold ones I owe you anyway... :tup:
Post by: akirkland on June 29, 2011, 08:52:25 PM
Post by: Deer slayer on June 29, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
i drew quality bull, archery. Never expected to draw with the points i had. Unfortunately i will be hunting solo as all my other hunting partners will be in the high country. Needless to say i dont know the unit at all. i will be scouting ALOT! i have the LC SPORTSMAN map with a Weyerhauser map on the way. I could use and appreciate any suggestions, pointers and help you guys could offer. Thanks guys!In the previous posts I have listed areas that you can expect to be open during the archery season. I would concentrate on those areas. Its going to be hard to scout due to gates being locked unless they are allowing walk in or bike in past the gates. There are allot of elk in the unit. You will have a good time. :tup:
Post by: bearmanric on June 30, 2011, 12:47:30 PM
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Post by: MagKarl on June 30, 2011, 01:51:11 PM
Post by: Hurricane on June 30, 2011, 02:15:17 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 30, 2011, 02:18:41 PM
Post by: akirkland on June 30, 2011, 09:38:37 PM
Post by: REMINGTON13 on June 30, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Got my toutle map. Now I have all three . Just leaving the toutle store they have quite a few maps still.
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I have been looking all over for St. Helens Tree Farm maps. Where did you find them?
Post by: Hurricane on June 30, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 30, 2011, 10:24:42 PM
Post by: Antlershed on July 01, 2011, 03:47:41 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on July 01, 2011, 06:00:01 AM
Here's our Bulls. I never saw anything spectacular in the unit, but it was a ton of fun. It was frustrating to see 7 4/5 points the day before season and then not see another bull until Wednesday night though haha :) But man, there was a lot of action, into elk daily.
Post by: bearmanric on July 01, 2011, 09:11:05 AM
Post by: frostman on July 01, 2011, 10:52:39 PM
I saw it a few posts ago where someone said that the DNR roads are the lines not numbered. That is true. As i understand it the Weyco land gives way to DNR wildlife management areas headed down towards the Loo-Witt and the North Fork. Anything numbered on the Weyco map is on their timberlands.
I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I think Weherhauser is an excellent steward of the land. I wish more of us were better stewards. If there wasn't so much abuse of these foreast lands they might actually leave more of the gated areas open.
Has anyone noticed that 90+% of the beer cans thrown out on logging roads are Busch Lite. WTF????
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on July 02, 2011, 07:18:57 AM
Busch Beer if favored by the loggers.
Post by: bearmanric on July 02, 2011, 09:06:27 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 02, 2011, 09:10:27 AM
Post by: bearmanric on July 02, 2011, 09:48:41 AM
Post by: Luckybuck on July 02, 2011, 10:35:56 AM
Would prefer not to take my daughter all the way up there. And I don't want her to cancel out her tag. Never know if she will draw another tag in the next 10 years.
Any Idea's closer in??
Post by: Deer slayer on July 02, 2011, 12:39:06 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 02, 2011, 03:45:57 PM
Of all the years to draw a Toutle tag. My daughter, who is pregnant has a rifle tag. She will be 8 months a long mid November. Last time I hunted the Toutle was 1999. My wife got a small 3pt around the 3000 line.
Would prefer not to take my daughter all the way up there. And I don't want her to cancel out her tag. Never know if she will draw another tag in the next 10 years.
Any Idea's closer in??
The state is not always completely inflexible. Myself, I would make a phone call to the director himself and see what your options are. A daughter that is really good at crying on the phone might make a big difference ;) It's worth a try!
Good luck!
Post by: RGB on July 02, 2011, 06:36:12 PM
If you guys are going to be on the south end over next week keep an eye on your stuff. There is a rainbow festival going on. Meaning a lot of freaks camping out. There have been problems already in Skamania County. If you want more information on them do a google search on them. Enjoy your weekend scouts.
There's a broke down rainbow painted school bus right off the freeway in Woodland. The hippies were scattering like cockroaches.
Post by: Deer slayer on July 03, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
Post by: Crunchy on July 03, 2011, 12:09:20 PM
Post by: MADMAX on July 04, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
Lots of gates.
Better get Mt Bikes
Post by: bearmanric on July 04, 2011, 01:57:38 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 04, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 04, 2011, 02:14:25 PM
Post by: Crunchy on July 04, 2011, 02:18:17 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 04, 2011, 02:49:02 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 04, 2011, 03:52:23 PM
Post by: akirkland on July 04, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
Post by: frostman on July 05, 2011, 07:36:30 AM
Midday I headed south and checked out the 8100 line. Looks like limited access into the 556 from this FS road. Drove up the Rock Creek and got lost for a while until I had to get out and get back north. I wanted to check out the Kalama drainage. I thought it would be easier to access through Woodland.
Yeah I will be on mounain bike too more than likely. Got a custom trailer set up from last year still waiting to haul out its first elk quarters.
Deer Slayer, if you are talking about GREEN Trails maps they do not GT maps for anything west of St Helens. We used to have a Metzgers maps in Tacoma. They are gone. I used to go there and get the 40 ft line quadrangle maps. You know, the real good detailed topo maps.
Post by: Deer slayer on July 05, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
I celebrated Independence Day in the Toutle unit. Couldn't get my bro to come along so I headed out solo at 4:30 AM and first elk I saw was a dandy bull gleeming in the first warm rays of sunlight. It was so bright out that it was hard to see in the woods. It was still very easy to find elk in the north part of the unit.Nope take a look at gametrails.com. Its my favorite map. Atleast it use to be.
Midday I headed south and checked out the 8100 line. Looks like limited access into the 556 from this FS road. Drove up the Rock Creek and got lost for a while until I had to get out and get back north. I wanted to check out the Kalama drainage. I thought it would be easier to access through Woodland.
Yeah I will be on mounain bike too more than likely. Got a custom trailer set up from last year still waiting to haul out its first elk quarters.
Deer Slayer, if you are talking about GREEN Trails maps they do not GT maps for anything west of St Helens. We used to have a Metzgers maps in Tacoma. They are gone. I used to go there and get the 40 ft line quadrangle maps. You know, the real good detailed topo maps.
Post by: Wake1 on July 08, 2011, 05:29:30 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on July 11, 2011, 09:08:40 PM
Headed down to the north end Sunday. Looking forward to wearing out a little boot leather. This trip should be way more productive than the last thanks to this thread. Have a good weekend all.How did it go?
Post by: Crunchy on July 11, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
Post by: elk79 on July 11, 2011, 10:42:08 PM
Post by: Wake1 on July 12, 2011, 08:09:47 AM
Post by: bearmanric on July 12, 2011, 08:39:08 AM
Post by: akirkland on July 12, 2011, 09:12:31 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on July 17, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 17, 2011, 07:30:56 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on July 17, 2011, 08:22:09 PM
Of all the years to draw a Toutle tag. My daughter, who is pregnant has a rifle tag. She will be 8 months a long mid November. Last time I hunted the Toutle was 1999. My wife got a small 3pt around the 3000 line.
Would prefer not to take my daughter all the way up there. And I don't want her to cancel out her tag. Never know if she will draw another tag in the next 10 years.
Any Idea's closer in??
What's the cancel option?
Post by: akirkland on July 17, 2011, 09:37:31 PM
Home now was great meeting you. Only made it in there Friday. Rick
It was nice meeting you Rick. Great conversation. I look forward to talking in the future. Get back out there ASAP! Take care.
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 17, 2011, 09:44:30 PM
Post by: MADMAX on July 18, 2011, 07:17:07 AM
Post by: Wake1 on July 18, 2011, 07:47:58 AM
Post by: YoterHunter on July 18, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
Post by: MADMAX on July 23, 2011, 11:51:42 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on July 23, 2011, 10:29:29 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 23, 2011, 10:53:22 PM
Post by: Wake1 on August 12, 2011, 02:07:55 PM
Post by: akirkland on August 13, 2011, 01:29:09 AM
Post by: Crunchy on August 13, 2011, 07:35:00 AM
Post by: MADMAX on August 14, 2011, 05:43:17 AM
Thats good
Post by: frostman on August 21, 2011, 04:36:01 PM
It states - "Weyerhauser may allow motorized access through normally locked gates, barring closure due to fire danger or other operational reasons:
However, as of today (Aug 19) the Weyerhauser St. Helens Tree Farm is closed due to fire danger, therefore the additional access through the Weyerhauser property is not available at this time."
It goes onto give a hotline to check on the lifting of the fire danger closure and then it states -
"The information below only applies if the fire closure has been lifted and access has again been permitted by Weyerhauser:
Please be aware of the following guidelines regarding the different access scenarios you may encounter on Weyerhauser property:
If a gate is closed and locked with no motoized access sign, no MOTORIZED access is available. Walk in hunting is available through these gates."
The next point deals with logging activity and it appears that there should be a page 2 of which I did not receive. There is also recreation access rules from Weyerhauser along with images of various logging road signs and a detailed map outlining the GMU.
Can anybody clue me in to whether "closed due to fire danger" means no access at all or just motorized access?
Has anybody else received this info yet and is there a page 2 from WDFW?
Post by: Deer slayer on August 21, 2011, 04:45:53 PM
Post by: Trailstrider on August 21, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
Post by: TheHunt on August 21, 2011, 05:43:46 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on August 21, 2011, 07:57:53 PM
Closed due to fire danger are the signs you do not want to see and are strictly inforced. They mean NO access at all....................
Absolutely right.If caught it will result in a criminal trespass citation.
Post by: TwistedTree on August 21, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed.
Post by: MADMAX on August 24, 2011, 11:48:41 AM
Does anyknow if it is CLOSED for everything or just motorized vehicles ?
Anyone been down lately ?
Post by: bobcat on August 24, 2011, 11:52:36 AM
Post by: akirkland on August 24, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
Post by: MagKarl on August 24, 2011, 02:18:16 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 24, 2011, 02:23:15 PM
So, there's no guarantee you will have access into the Toutle unit. And that's why they now also include a late season with the archery permit. If you can't hunt the early, you've still got the late.
Post by: Antlershed on August 24, 2011, 02:38:05 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 25, 2011, 05:54:06 AM
That works fine
Post by: cleetus on August 25, 2011, 05:54:08 PM
Post by: Hunter Dug on August 26, 2011, 07:24:12 AM
Post by: MADMAX on August 26, 2011, 07:46:59 AM
My only question is are the side gates open or not for boot or vehicle ?
I hate to drive 3 hours to scout only to find out I can not get off the 4100 mainline to head up on the state patch
Can somebody throw me a PM if you know ?
Post by: Wake1 on August 26, 2011, 04:58:38 PM
Post by: Crunchy on August 26, 2011, 05:10:43 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 27, 2011, 05:11:41 AM
Would appreciate a gate/closure status
Post by: Crunchy on August 28, 2011, 04:40:54 PM
Post by: Trailstrider on August 29, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Post by: Hunter Dug on August 31, 2011, 08:35:41 AM
Post by: MADMAX on September 01, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
Post by: Trailstrider on September 01, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
Post by: MADMAX on September 03, 2011, 05:27:57 PM