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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: bentley30-06 on June 30, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
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I am currently using a whisker biscuit and have noticed a slight amount of inconsistency in my shots and a lot of wear and tear on my arrows. Has anyone been in this scenario and considered switching to fallaway rest or actually done it. I am considering a change. Let me know what you guys use and recommend.
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on my old bow I have a whisker and seemed if i had a nick in my fletchings it would tear them up, on the new bow switched to a drop away. never had any inconsistency with the whisker just wanted to try a drop away is why i switched.
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drop away
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WB
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never tried the WB, but like my drop away
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get a trophy taker and be done
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I shot with the biscuit for a while but was also getting tired of the fletchings getting wrinkled. Got a new bow (Mathews Z7) and it wouldn't tune with the biscuit. It turned out to be a blessing as I switched to a QAD pro fall-away and haven't been happier. It still contains the arrow, has tighter groups and no arrow damage at all. I highly recommend switching.
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Fall away is the better option but the whisker biscuit works well too.. just that is does tear up your arrows after shooting alot ... and is good for closer range accuracy plus slows your speed down alittle do to the drag of the arrow passing threw the biscuit ... But they are extremely accurate at certain distances.. I have one on my kids bow and he has killed a couple deer at 40 yrds without much trouble ! :twocents:
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Drop away quality archers design ultra rest
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Went from a WB to a trophy taker. Seemed to improve accuracy and reduce noise. I liked the ease of the WB holding the arrow while walking around, but when I went to the drop away, I just put on, (I'm not sure what they're called) little plastic thing in front of the drop away that the arrow clips in until I draw back.
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Again its all opinion .. but I have had this rest on my bow about 11 yrs now and have shot 1000 s of arrows threw it and never ever had one thing go wrong with it for as long as I had it put on here ... plus I have a limited edition of Mathews bow made for the national wild turkey federation .. do not think many know about that but they made a couple and sold them to us a very very reasonable price and believe me it has killed alot of sheet .....QUICK TUNE REST for me !
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Trophy taker fall away, the first and still the best. :twocents:
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Trophy taker fall away, the first and still the best. :twocents:
ya i suppose but I know alot of my friends have them and all they do is complain about this and that so I :dunno:
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The only positive that the WB has is that there are no moving parts to fail. Other than that, get a drop away. I have Limbdriver on all my bows.
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Ya I think I will try the trophy taker...Thanks for all the input
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i had the wb on my bow all last year, after shooting with it just about everyday, i know what your saying, i have gone through a ton of fletchings, i picked up the NAP apache drop away and love it, and its only like $50 on amazon, which is a decent deal for a full containment drop away, it is more accurate than the wb and to my surprise completely silent, i figured over time it would make some noise or something, but so far am 100% glad i switched
not sure about all of the other fall aways but my other worry was that if i am on the move, in a spot and stalk scenario the arrow will be moving around and when i go to draw i have to make unnecassary adjustments to get the arrow back on track, howeve NAP designed it so that the arms of the rest reached right out the the inside of the containment so when you draw no matter what the arrow ends up in the same location dead center of the rest.
my :twocents: switch to the drop away, i think the NAP or better you'll be completely satisfied.
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Ya I just checked out the apache and it has a very interesting design to it. Ill have to check into that one also.
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Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter. It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
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Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter. It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it. My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.
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It would be cool if an archery shop had a few in house bows set up with different rests so a guy could see how they like them...
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:yeah:i was thinking the same thing when i bought mine, i ended going out on a limb going with a cheaper one than the QAD or trophy taker, because i would like to compare them all and see the differences but so far i have been satisfied, so for the sake of not spending more its probably good i haven't tried the others yet
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stormin85:not sure about all of the other fall aways but my other worry was that if i am on the move,
I have a little cloth with humps that sits in front of the rest to keep the arrow in place until the rest picks it up, the shop put in on for me and it works great to keep the arrow in place unless you run or jump which is a really dumb idea with a broadhead on IMO
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My arrows have a 4* offset and would never work with a whisker biscuit. It is a trophy taker for me.
This state requires a fixed blade broadhead, so in my experience to get the arrow stabilized and prevent planing you need to spin the arrow. I don't see why you would shoot straight vanes in this state.
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Trophy taker for me on my bow. I used a biscuit for years and they work very well. I still have them on many bows and my wifes and brothers bows as well. The only thing I don't like is when it gets wet it can really mess with the arrows flight. The whiskers get clumpy and the vanes don't go threw right. I am on the dry side for the most part, so not to much of a problem :chuckle:
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Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter. It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it. My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.
i also have the same one and really love it
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they should destroy every other hunting rest made and just let qad sell their rest. :twocents:
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Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter. It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it. My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.
i also have the same one and really love it
I shoot a biscuit, my cousin just switched to a QAD fallaway and loves it.
I think the biscuit is a great rest, but now that they have fallaway rests that have solved the containment issue, I see no need for them. I am definitely going to upgrade when I get a new bow, just too deadly with my current setup to justify changing.
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If you like the idea of the Hairy Hole but do not like the way it treats your fletching there is another option. The Octane Hostage Pro. Works in the same manner, but allows complete fletching clearance. I use it quite often when I travel for a hunt as it is quiet, easy to tune, easy to replace any part and almost impossible to break.
For fall aways I prefer either QAD or RipCord. Besides being great rests the owners of these companies are "First Class" people. Definitely worth supporting.
Good luck with your decision.
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The ultra rest would be my choice.
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Octane rip cord fall away I love it
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Drop away or an old standard rest. I got talked into a WB and hated it. It is a tree needle, leaf catching, and twig snagging SOB. If you hunt in open country or from a stand it is ok I guess. Hard on vanes too! Just my .02. Any pro shop in Western Wa that tries to sell you one is a shop I would not recommend!
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Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter. It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it. My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.
You also get a cool QAD decal for your truck!..since we all know we love out decals..
i also have the same one and really love it
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Trophy taker fall away, the first and still the best. :twocents:
:yeah:
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All of this talk is making me think i better step outside and shoot!
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Is there anything else besides the Quality Archery Designs Ultra Rest? Which ever model........ Ive tried quite a few fall aways, and its BY FAR the best! Trophy Taker is somewhere back there, but far far behind the QAD Ultra Rest. Everybody I bow hunt with (if they can afford one) has one. Superior quality, superior design, what else is there? I've also shot WB's and they work ok for the kids and my woman. :)
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Drop away Rip Cord code red!
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I use a fall away but put the WB on my sons bow as a started, found it is very easy to tune! He is ready for a drop away now so I will be changing that soon. I found that putting on my own Blazer vanes with a dab of glue at the front works very well and I do not have to replace a lot of vanes at all.
I take a spare WB hunting because they are cheap compared to the drop away so if I break my rest while hunting, I can put on the WB, tune it quickly and keep on hunting :IBCOOL:
BTW...they have little rubber arrow holders that glue onto the front of the rest to hold it from flopping around :)
Good luck,
Fulla
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i say wb simply because it contains your arrow when stalking and you dont have to keep a finger on the shaft to contain it. i think its a toss up myself
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I have used both off and on since I started shooting a compound. Started out with a whisker biscuit, then switched to a fall away and then back to whisker biscuit and then finally to a limbdriver fall away rest.
IMO the fall aways seem to be more accurate, and quieter. Plus if you are worried about containment get a fall away rest that gives you containment problem solved and you get a quieter more accurate rest.
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I had a whisker on my Mathews Drenalin for two years and messed with it the whole time trying to achieve the groups I wanted and never did. I put the trophy Taker full containment on, tuned it up and my setup is way more accurate now. When I think about it I get mad at myself for messing around so long with the whisker, it just didn't perform to the level I wanted to get to. I had immediate , drastic improvement with the drop away. Mike
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get a trophy taker and be done
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I picked up the apache and its fantastic. My groups are excellent and I dont have to worry about the damage to the veins or anything.
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i say wb simply because it contains your arrow when stalking and you dont have to keep a finger on the shaft to contain it. i think its a toss up myself
QAD ultrarest gives you that same thing in a drop away. Amazing rest.
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get a trophy taker and be done
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:crap: NO containment. Don't waste your money. QAD Ultra rest is the final answer.
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QAD is the final answer.
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:yeah:
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Get any drop away that has a full containment system.
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fall away. my trophy taker works good...
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Personally, I would stay away from the WB. I got on that bandwagon about 6 years ago and I cant even count how many fletchings Ive destroyed. Kinda dumb when you start avoiding practicing because you know that doing so will destroy your fletchings that much more and make them that much more in accurate. Took me a couple seasons to find out that blazor vanes are a little more durable with the WB but you would have to fletch them to Zero offset to make them last longer and then doing so would again make you more in accurate. I made the switch to the Limb Driver 2 years ago and cannot be any happier. Its really easy to setup compared to othe drop aways but their main selling point is that the rest stays up until just before the fletching gets to it (which is supposed to improve accuracy ) whereas most other drop aways only hold the arrow for maybe an inch or two after you release it. I believe youtube has some slow-mo videos showing the difference.
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I made the switch to the Limb Driver 2 years ago and cannot be any happier. Its really easy to setup compared to othe drop aways but their main selling point is that the rest stays up until just before the fletching gets to it (which is supposed to improve accuracy ) whereas most other drop aways only hold the arrow for maybe an inch or two after you release it. I believe youtube has some slow-mo videos showing the difference.
seems like you setup any drop away to do that just a matter of how much slack you have in the string to the cable
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Trophy taker drop away. If you're a sissy and can't pull back your bow without it jumping all over the place, then get the Shakey Hunter.
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Drop away! I dont like anything touching my fletching as they are leaving my bow.
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Drop away quality archers design ultra rest
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Trophy taker drop away. If you're a sissy and can't pull back your bow without it jumping all over the place, then get the Shakey Hunter.
:crap:
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On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit. Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.
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On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit. Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.
You know the QAD can hold arrows knocked right? Works just like a biscuit. Cant teach old dogs new tricks I guess. :chuckle:
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For sure drop away and mark another one down for the QAD Ultra Rest, the only way to go
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On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit. Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.
You know the QAD can hold arrows knocked right? Works just like a biscuit. Cant teach old dogs new tricks I guess. :chuckle:
Ahh, no i didn't know about those :tup: Neat looking rest, good concept too. Looks like you would still have to hold your finger on it if you were walking. (I know shouldn't have an arrow nocked when walking. But... lol.)
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On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit. Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.
You know the QAD can hold arrows knocked right? Works just like a biscuit. Cant teach old dogs new tricks I guess. :chuckle:
hahha yeah like that statement ( Cant teach old dogs new tricks ) thats what I am saying :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :sry:
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We can tell from your broadhead threads... :chuckle: :yike:
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I put the apache on and I am loving the difference. Quiter, smoother, faster, and a lot less stress on my arrows. I should have switched a couple of years ago. Those bulls may have been on the wall..... :bash: