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Title: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: bentley30-06 on June 30, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
I am currently using a whisker biscuit and have noticed a slight amount of inconsistency in my shots and a lot of wear and tear on my arrows.  Has anyone been in this scenario and considered switching to fallaway rest or actually done it.  I am considering a change.  Let me know what you guys use and recommend.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: sebek556 on June 30, 2011, 11:34:05 AM
on my old bow I have a whisker and seemed if i had a  nick in my fletchings it would tear them up, on the new bow switched to a drop away. never had any inconsistency with the whisker just wanted to try a drop away is why i switched.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 30, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
drop away
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 30, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
WB
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: whacker1 on June 30, 2011, 11:41:06 AM
never tried the WB, but like my drop away
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: str8meat on June 30, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
get a trophy taker and be done
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Carnivore on June 30, 2011, 11:43:53 AM
I shot with the biscuit for a while but was also getting tired of the fletchings getting wrinkled.  Got a new bow (Mathews Z7) and it wouldn't tune with the biscuit.  It turned out to be a blessing as I switched to a QAD pro fall-away and haven't been happier.  It still contains the arrow, has tighter groups and no arrow damage at all.  I highly recommend switching.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 30, 2011, 11:44:04 AM
Fall away is the better option but the whisker biscuit works well too.. just that is does tear up your arrows after shooting alot ... and is good for closer range accuracy plus slows your speed down alittle do to the drag of the arrow passing threw the biscuit ... But they are extremely accurate at certain distances.. I have one on my kids bow and he has killed a couple deer at 40 yrds without much trouble ! :twocents:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Instinct on June 30, 2011, 11:44:20 AM
Drop away quality archers design ultra rest
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: cwuwildcat on June 30, 2011, 11:54:29 AM
Went from a WB to a trophy taker.  Seemed to improve accuracy and reduce noise.  I liked the ease of the WB holding the arrow while walking around, but when I went to the drop away, I just put on, (I'm not sure what they're called) little plastic thing in front of the drop away that the arrow clips in until I draw back.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 30, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
Again its all opinion .. but I have had this rest on my bow about 11 yrs now and have shot 1000 s of arrows threw it and never ever had one thing go wrong with it for as long as I had it put on here ... plus I have a limited edition of Mathews bow made for the national wild turkey federation .. do not think many know about that but they made a couple and sold them to us a very very reasonable price and believe me it has killed alot of sheet .....QUICK TUNE REST for me !
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: GoldTip on June 30, 2011, 12:03:28 PM
Trophy taker fall away, the first and still the best. :twocents:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 30, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
Trophy taker fall away, the first and still the best. :twocents:
ya i suppose but I know alot of my friends have them and all they do is complain about this and that so I  :dunno:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: mtbiker on June 30, 2011, 12:10:33 PM
The only positive that the WB has is that there are no moving parts to fail.  Other than that, get a drop away. I have Limbdriver on all my bows.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: bentley30-06 on June 30, 2011, 12:34:42 PM
Ya I think I will try the trophy taker...Thanks for all the input
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: stormin85 on June 30, 2011, 12:39:42 PM
i had the wb on my bow all last year, after shooting with it just about everyday, i know what your saying, i have gone through a ton of fletchings, i picked up the NAP apache drop away and love it, and its only like $50 on amazon, which is a decent deal for a full containment drop away, it is more accurate than the wb and to my surprise completely silent, i figured over time it would make some noise or something, but so far am 100% glad i switched

not sure about all of the other fall aways but my other worry was that if i am on the move, in a spot and stalk scenario the arrow will be moving around and when i go to draw i have to make unnecassary adjustments to get the arrow back on track, howeve NAP designed it so that the arms of the rest reached right out the the inside of the containment so when you draw no matter what the arrow ends up in the same location dead center of the rest.

my :twocents: switch to the drop away, i think the NAP or better you'll be completely satisfied.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: bentley30-06 on June 30, 2011, 12:51:42 PM
Ya I just checked out the apache and it has a very interesting design to it.  Ill have to check into that one also.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: briancorneal on June 30, 2011, 12:56:40 PM
Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter.  It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest. 
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Elkrunner on June 30, 2011, 01:03:00 PM
Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter.  It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it.  My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Buckmark on June 30, 2011, 01:05:22 PM
It would be cool if an archery shop had a few in house bows set up with different rests so a guy could see how they like them...
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: stormin85 on June 30, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
 :yeah:i was thinking the same thing when i bought mine, i ended going out on a limb going with a cheaper one than the QAD or trophy taker, because i would like to compare them all and see the differences but so far i have been satisfied, so for the sake of not spending more its probably good i haven't tried the others yet
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: sebek556 on June 30, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
stormin85:not sure about all of the other fall aways but my other worry was that if i am on the move,

I have a little cloth with humps that sits in front of the rest to keep the arrow in place until the rest picks it up, the shop put in on for me and it works great to keep the arrow in place unless you run or jump which is a really dumb idea with a broadhead on IMO
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: JPhelps on June 30, 2011, 08:58:55 PM
My arrows have a 4* offset and would never work with a whisker biscuit.  It is a trophy taker for me.

This state requires a fixed blade broadhead, so in my experience to get the arrow stabilized and prevent planing you need to spin the arrow.  I don't see why you would shoot straight vanes in this state.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 30, 2011, 09:08:42 PM
Trophy taker for me on my bow. I used a biscuit for years and they work very well. I still have them on many bows and my wifes and brothers bows as well. The only thing I don't like is when it gets wet it can really mess with the arrows flight. The whiskers get clumpy and the vanes don't go threw right. I am on the dry side for the most part, so not to much of a problem :chuckle:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: blacktailcrzy on June 30, 2011, 09:12:01 PM
Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter.  It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it.  My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.

i also have the same one and really love it
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 30, 2011, 09:13:11 PM
they should destroy every other hunting rest made and just let qad sell their rest.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Sneaky on June 30, 2011, 09:16:15 PM
Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter.  It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it.  My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.

i also have the same one and really love it

I shoot a biscuit, my cousin just switched to a QAD fallaway and loves it.

I think the biscuit is a great rest, but now that they have fallaway rests that have solved the containment issue, I see no need for them. I am definitely going to upgrade when I get a new bow, just too deadly with my current setup to justify changing.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: RadSav on July 01, 2011, 02:43:42 AM
If you like the idea of the Hairy Hole but do not like the way it treats your fletching there is another option.  The Octane Hostage Pro. Works in the same manner, but allows complete fletching clearance.  I use it quite often when I travel for a hunt as it is quiet, easy to tune, easy to replace any part and almost impossible to break.

For fall aways I prefer either QAD or RipCord.  Besides being great rests the owners of these companies are "First Class" people.  Definitely worth supporting.

Good luck with your decision.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 02, 2011, 08:12:49 AM
The ultra rest would be my choice.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Muleyarcher on July 02, 2011, 09:35:06 AM
Octane rip cord fall away I love it
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: dreamunelk on July 02, 2011, 10:31:15 AM
Drop away or an old standard rest.  I got talked into a WB and hated it.  It is a tree needle, leaf catching, and twig snagging SOB.  If you hunt in open country or from a stand it is ok I guess.  Hard on vanes too!  Just my .02.  Any pro shop in Western Wa that tries to sell you one is a shop I would not recommend!
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Elkrunner on July 02, 2011, 11:45:19 AM
Check out Quality Archery Designs (QAD) pro hunter.  It's a bit spendy, but has dialed in my groups a whole lot more than my other rest.
I have the same one and love it.  My hunting buddy was using a whisker for years and I finally convinced him to the try this one.
You also get a cool QAD decal for your truck!..since we all know we love out decals..

i also have the same one and really love it
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: PolarBear on July 02, 2011, 11:50:44 AM
Trophy taker fall away, the first and still the best. :twocents:
:yeah:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Elkrunner on July 02, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
All of this talk is making me think i better step outside and shoot!
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: GreatWhiteHunter on July 03, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
Is there anything else besides the Quality Archery Designs Ultra Rest? Which ever model........ Ive tried quite a few fall aways, and its BY FAR the best! Trophy Taker is somewhere back there, but far far behind the QAD Ultra Rest. Everybody I bow hunt with (if they can afford one) has one. Superior quality, superior design, what else is there? I've also shot WB's and they work ok for the kids and my woman. :)
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Malardman on July 03, 2011, 09:26:48 AM
Drop away Rip Cord code red!
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Fullabull on July 03, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
I use a fall away but put the WB on my sons bow as a started, found it is very easy to tune! He is ready for a drop away now so I will be changing that soon. I found that putting on my own Blazer vanes with a dab of glue at the front works very well and I do not have to replace a lot of vanes at all.

I take a spare WB hunting because they are cheap compared to the drop away so if I break my rest while hunting, I can put on the WB, tune it quickly and keep on hunting  :IBCOOL:

BTW...they have little rubber arrow holders that glue onto the front of the rest to hold it from flopping around :)

Good luck,
Fulla
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on July 03, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
i say wb simply because it contains your arrow when stalking and you dont have to keep a finger on the shaft to contain it. i think its a toss up myself
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: hughjorgan on July 03, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
I have used both off and on since I started shooting a compound. Started out with a whisker biscuit, then switched to a fall away and then back to whisker biscuit and then finally to a limbdriver fall away rest.

IMO the fall aways seem to be more accurate, and quieter. Plus if you are worried about containment get a fall away rest that gives you containment problem solved and you get a quieter more accurate rest.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: MIKEXRAY on July 04, 2011, 08:42:44 AM
I had a whisker on my Mathews Drenalin for two years and messed with it the whole time trying to achieve the groups I wanted and never did. I put the trophy Taker full containment on, tuned it up and my setup is way more accurate now.  When I think about it I get mad at myself for messing around so long with the whisker, it just didn't perform to the level I wanted to get to. I had immediate , drastic improvement with the drop away.   Mike
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: windygorge on July 04, 2011, 09:09:57 AM
get a trophy taker and be done

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: bentley30-06 on July 04, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
I picked up the apache and its fantastic.  My groups are excellent and I dont have to worry about the damage to the veins or anything.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Jellymon on July 04, 2011, 04:47:32 PM
i say wb simply because it contains your arrow when stalking and you dont have to keep a finger on the shaft to contain it. i think its a toss up myself

QAD ultrarest gives you that same thing in a drop away. Amazing rest.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: GreatWhiteHunter on July 05, 2011, 10:23:42 AM
get a trophy taker and be done

 :yeah:

 :crap: NO containment. Don't waste your money. QAD Ultra rest is the final answer.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: CallMeBigPapa on July 05, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
QAD is the final answer.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: dartondude on July 18, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: BIGMIKE on July 20, 2011, 08:17:08 AM
Get any drop away that has a full containment system.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: bench beast on July 20, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
fall away. my trophy taker works good...
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: ouchfoss on July 20, 2011, 11:40:29 PM
Personally, I would stay away from the WB. I got on that bandwagon about 6 years ago and I cant even count how many fletchings Ive destroyed. Kinda dumb when you start avoiding practicing because you know that doing so will destroy your fletchings that much more and make them that much more in accurate. Took me a couple seasons to find out that blazor vanes are a little more durable with the WB but you would have to fletch them to Zero offset to make them last longer and then doing so would again make you more in accurate. I made the switch to the Limb Driver 2 years ago and cannot be any happier. Its really easy to setup compared to othe drop aways but their main selling point is that the rest stays up until just before the fletching gets to it (which is supposed to improve accuracy ) whereas most other drop aways only hold the arrow for maybe an inch or two after you release it. I believe youtube has some slow-mo videos showing the difference.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 21, 2011, 12:25:15 AM
I made the switch to the Limb Driver 2 years ago and cannot be any happier. Its really easy to setup compared to othe drop aways but their main selling point is that the rest stays up until just before the fletching gets to it (which is supposed to improve accuracy ) whereas most other drop aways only hold the arrow for maybe an inch or two after you release it. I believe youtube has some slow-mo videos showing the difference.

seems like you setup any drop away to do that just a matter of how much slack you have in the string to the cable
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Miles on July 21, 2011, 04:07:12 AM
Trophy taker drop away.  If you're a sissy and can't pull back your bow without it jumping all over the place, then get the Shakey Hunter.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: longknife on July 21, 2011, 04:37:54 AM
Drop away! I dont like anything touching my fletching as they are leaving my bow.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: akirkland on July 21, 2011, 06:29:42 PM
Drop away quality archers design ultra rest
:yeah:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: GreatWhiteHunter on July 22, 2011, 09:06:15 AM
Trophy taker drop away.  If you're a sissy and can't pull back your bow without it jumping all over the place, then get the Shakey Hunter.

 :crap:

Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Recurve-Elk on July 22, 2011, 09:29:17 AM
On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit.  Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: GreatWhiteHunter on July 25, 2011, 02:24:22 PM
On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit.  Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.

You know the QAD can hold arrows knocked right? Works just like a biscuit. Cant teach old dogs new tricks I guess.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: husker1657 on July 25, 2011, 02:41:01 PM
For sure drop away and mark another one down for the QAD Ultra Rest, the only way to go
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Recurve-Elk on July 25, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit.  Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.

You know the QAD can hold arrows knocked right? Works just like a biscuit. Cant teach old dogs new tricks I guess.  :chuckle:

Ahh, no i didn't know about those  :tup:  Neat looking rest, good concept too.  Looks like you would still have to hold your finger on it if you were walking.  (I know shouldn't have an arrow nocked when walking. But... lol.)
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 25, 2011, 06:15:36 PM
On my compound I would never go away from the biscuit.  Sure I have to re-fletch from time to time, but I love not having to worry about the arrow falling off, and the ease of carry if I have an arrow nocked.

You know the QAD can hold arrows knocked right? Works just like a biscuit. Cant teach old dogs new tricks I guess.  :chuckle:
  hahha yeah like that statement ( Cant teach old dogs new tricks ) thats what I am saying  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :sry:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 25, 2011, 08:00:19 PM
We can tell from your broadhead threads... :chuckle: :yike:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit or Fallaway
Post by: bentley30-06 on July 28, 2011, 01:44:53 AM
I put the apache on and I am loving the difference.  Quiter, smoother, faster, and a lot less stress on my arrows.  I should have switched a couple of years ago.  Those bulls may have been on the wall..... :bash:
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