Post by: shanevg on July 04, 2011, 10:44:25 PM
BTW, if anyone is any good at editing pictures and sees good improvement options, I do have RAWs of all images. ;)
Post by: shanevg on July 04, 2011, 10:45:06 PM
I think Brian maybe goat a video with my small camera too, so I'll check that when I get a chance and post if anything is worth posting.
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on July 04, 2011, 10:52:33 PM
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Post by: RadSav on July 05, 2011, 12:16:40 AM
Would sure be nice if I could find one that big and stupid on my Canada trip this year. Saw a crap load during last years trip, but just could not close the deal for a bow shot. Now I have proof dumb ones do exist!
Thanks for sharing.
Post by: RadSav on July 05, 2011, 12:38:57 AM
BTW, if anyone is any good at editing pictures and sees good improvement options, I do have RAWs of all images. ;)
I spent just a few minutes in Digital Image to see what detail was really in your photos. Looks like you do a have quite a bit to work with. I would not be the right guy. But, there are a good number of very good Photo Shop guys out there. Might check out the big labs in Seattle. Or contact a college student who might want to take on a challenge. I know there are some members on here doing some awesome work like "Boneaddict" who might be able to help.
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-Steve
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Post by: shanevg on July 05, 2011, 07:43:52 PM
What do you guys think? I don't think he's super long but he should be close to that 10" mark. Do you think he would be a Booner?
Post by: shanevg on July 05, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
Mt. Baker billy mountain goat at 4 yards - 7/4/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V3WutT-cF8#)
Post by: rebal69972 on July 05, 2011, 11:52:21 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 06, 2011, 12:32:19 AM
I'm not the best judge of length. If you read some of the online tutorials they say the ears are usually around 6 inches long and nose to eye is usually 9 inches. Some of the local old timers have told me that ear length and nose length vary so much from goat to goat you can't use either measurement to accurately use them for horn length. The main consensus I have found is that if the horns are noticeably longer than the ears than it is at least a mature billy.
What do you guys think? I don't think he's super long but he should be close to that 10" mark. Do you think he would be a Booner?
When has 10" not been super long? Especially on our side of the rockies. I'd give you he doesn't have long mass similar to those further east. However, in my book he is beyond outstanding.
Best I can tell using a cloning brush is that he would be very close to 10"! His D-1, D-2 measurements are great and D-3 measurement is reasonable. The D-4 measurement would be his downfall if he really has one. He looks to have little if any deductions. My best guess would be over 50" less than 52" which should squeak into B&C. Easily into P&Y.
I haven't measured many, but I've seen enough to know I'd shoot him in a heartbeat! No world record but, if my guide told me not to shoot him I'd have a case of poor hearing real quick.
Post by: Kowsrule30 on July 06, 2011, 01:53:15 PM
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Post by: shanevg on July 06, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
that is real cool and only if that would happen with a bow in your hand ..... :tup:
...and a tag. ;)
Post by: Arrow on July 06, 2011, 02:58:42 PM
Post by: shanevg on July 06, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
Wow you either got pretty close or you have a good camera. Thanks for sharing!
4 yards from Brian. About 8 yards from me.
Post by: stickinmaster on July 06, 2011, 05:05:20 PM
Best I can tell using a cloning brush is that he would be very close to 10"! His D-1, D-2 measurements are great and D-3 measurement is reasonable. The D-4 measurement would be his downfall if he really has one. He looks to have little if any deductions. My best guess would be over 50" less than 52" which should squeak into B&C. Easily into P&Y.
So were do these four measurements come from? Just thought length and width would be the only two :dunno:
Post by: RadSav on July 06, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
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Post by: wsucowboy on July 08, 2011, 12:54:24 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on July 08, 2011, 03:16:37 PM
Tip to tip and widest width is recorded but not taken into account for official measurement. Only length of horn and four circumferential measurements less symmetrical deductions in each measurement. Circumference is measured by dividing each horn into four equal lengths. You measure at the base (D-1) and at the end of each of the next three segments (D-2 thru D-4).
Thank you for the explanation! :tup:
Post by: DeerThug on July 08, 2011, 03:32:29 PM
I hope I can find one that is that freaking big ---!!!!????
Post by: stickinmaster on July 08, 2011, 03:54:05 PM
Post by: shanevg on July 08, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
Tip to tip and widest width is recorded but not taken into account for official measurement. Only length of horn and four circumferential measurements less symmetrical deductions in each measurement. Circumference is measured by dividing each horn into four equal lengths. You measure at the base (D-1) and at the end of each of the next three segments (D-2 thru D-4).
Why measure width and tip to tip if tit doesn't calculate into the score? That is weird...
I've always claimed that a nice nanny like a few I've taken pictures of may be able to make the 50 inch minimum because of the width. I just assumed it was calculated because when I went to the Boon and Crocket website it has a little calculator where you put in width and all the other measurements. Just weird they would measure it and not include it in the score.
Post by: RadSav on July 08, 2011, 08:09:20 PM
I'll try to get a hold of Buzzy Cook and ask about why tip to tip and widest width are recorded and not used. He's the most knowledgeable on B&C measuring I know. Must be a reason I just don't have the answer.
Post by: shanevg on July 08, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 08, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
Post by: shanevg on July 08, 2011, 09:13:39 PM
With a heavy coat it would be easy to mistake that second one with the kids as a billy. Nannies usually do not have that much curve to the horns or that much mass. Thanks for sharing those - Cool!
I've thought the exact same thing. Definitely a nice nanny.