Nice billy (very close)

[bucklucky]

WOW, that is one heck of a Billy !! Nice pics Shane!

[bowsandhose]

very cool    nice billy

[stickinmaster]

How does one go about field judging a goat? Do you judge by comparison to the length of the nose or perhaps by the ears. I mean what is a typical length that you can consider it to be a TROPHY. Double its ears or double + a half Guess i never really thought about it till looking at this bruiser, figured a goat past its ears is descent or would at least be legal.

[shanevg]

I'm  not the best judge of length.  If you read some of the online tutorials they say the ears are usually around 6 inches long and nose to eye is usually 9 inches. Some of the local old timers have told me that ear length and nose length vary so much from goat to goat you can't use either measurement to accurately use them for horn length. The main consensus I have found is that if the horns are noticeably longer than the ears than it is at least a mature billy.

What do you guys think?  I don't think he's super long but he should be close to that 10" mark.  Do you think he would be a Booner?

[shanevg]

Some more pics and the video that Brian took with my Lumix.

Mt. Baker billy mountain goat at 4 yards - 7/4/11

[rebal69972]

very cool pics

[RadSav]

I'm  not the best judge of length.  If you read some of the online tutorials they say the ears are usually around 6 inches long and nose to eye is usually 9 inches. Some of the local old timers have told me that ear length and nose length vary so much from goat to goat you can't use either measurement to accurately use them for horn length. The main consensus I have found is that if the horns are noticeably longer than the ears than it is at least a mature billy.

What do you guys think?  I don't think he's super long but he should be close to that 10" mark.  Do you think he would be a Booner?

When has 10" not been super long?  Especially on our side of the rockies.  I'd give you he doesn't have long mass similar to those further east.  However, in my book he is beyond outstanding.

Best I can tell using a cloning brush is that he would be very close to 10"!  His D-1, D-2 measurements are great and D-3 measurement is reasonable.  The D-4 measurement would be his downfall if he really has one. He looks to have little if any deductions.  My best guess would be over 50" less than 52" which should squeak into B&C.  Easily into P&Y.

I haven't measured many, but I've seen enough to know I'd shoot him in a heartbeat!  No world record but, if my guide told me not to shoot him I'd have a case of poor hearing real quick.

[Kowsrule30]

Nice pics..... Huge goat..... Lucky he wasn't feeling mean.....

[HUNT]

Thats a sweet goat.  What a great encounter you had with him.

[BOWHUNTER45]

that is real cool and only if that would happen with a bow in your hand .....

[shanevg]

that is real cool and only if that would happen with a bow in your hand .....

 ...and a tag.   

[Arrow]

Wow you either got pretty close or you have a good camera. Thanks for sharing!

[shanevg]

Wow you either got pretty close or you have a good camera. Thanks for sharing!

4 yards from Brian.  About 8 yards from me.

[stickinmaster]

Best I can tell using a cloning brush is that he would be very close to 10"!  His D-1, D-2 measurements are great and D-3 measurement is reasonable.  The D-4 measurement would be his downfall if he really has one. He looks to have little if any deductions.  My best guess would be over 50" less than 52" which should squeak into B&C.  Easily into P&Y.

So were do these four measurements come from? Just thought length and width would be the only two

[RadSav]

Tip to tip and widest width is recorded but not taken into account for official measurement.  Only length of horn and four circumferential measurements less symmetrical deductions in each measurement.  Circumference is measured by dividing each horn into four equal lengths.  You measure at the base (D-1) and at the end of each of the next three segments (D-2 thru D-4).