Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2011, 10:02:40 AM
:yike:
425hp
Post by: 75johndeere on July 14, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
Post by: buglebuster on July 14, 2011, 10:24:53 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 14, 2011, 10:28:02 AM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup:
Seeing you're a newbie, we'll let that slide. However, you must identify yourself when I pull up to tow you outta that hole you're stuck in this fall in that prissy little Toyota or Geo Tracker you drive! It's gonna cost.
Welcome to the site. You'll like this one.
Post by: 7mag. on July 14, 2011, 10:35:32 AM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: BIGINNER on July 14, 2011, 10:38:34 AM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup: oh, and all you jeep people,... i need info on some hunting areas,.. :chuckle:
Post by: dad98684 on July 14, 2011, 10:50:18 AM
but that said nice rig.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 14, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Post by: bucklucky on July 14, 2011, 11:29:09 AM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup:
Seeing you're a newbie, we'll let that slide. However, you must identify yourself when I pull up to tow you outta that hole you're stuck in this fall in that prissy little Toyota or Geo Tracker you drive! It's gonna cost.
Welcome to the site. You'll like this one.
Hey now, you start bashing toyotas and you'll be on my chit list. Theres just nothing better than a tough ass little yota. Love pulling them poor little jeeps that cant go through a mudpuddle without getting stuck :chuckle: Just foolin!!
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 14, 2011, 11:32:09 AM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup:
Seeing you're a newbie, we'll let that slide. However, you must identify yourself when I pull up to tow you outta that hole you're stuck in this fall in that prissy little Toyota or Geo Tracker you drive! It's gonna cost.
Welcome to the site. You'll like this one.
Hey now, you start bashing toyotas and you'll be on my chit list. Theres just nothing better than a tough ass little yota. Love pulling them poor little jeeps that cant go through a mudpuddle without getting stuck :chuckle: Just foolin!!
Lol :chuckle:
Post by: Armadillo on July 14, 2011, 11:33:48 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 14, 2011, 11:39:08 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Wonder if he will venture off pavement with it or it will be a pavement pounder.
My gut says pavement pounder...but who knows. He just got it back about a week ago from AEV.
Post by: saylean on July 14, 2011, 12:14:38 PM
;)
Cool Jeep there jeepasaurus. I'd still like to pick one up, so I could play for both teams (toyota and jeep you YAR pervs).
Post by: runamuk on July 14, 2011, 12:18:15 PM
Chuck Norris eats toyotas and then poops out jeeps.
;)
Cool Jeep there jeepasaurus. I'd still like to pick one up, so I could play for both teams (toyota and jeep you YAR pervs).
we werent thinking that...but way to put it in our minds ;)
and as to the original post cool beans... he needs to go get it muddy
Post by: MuleySniper on July 14, 2011, 12:30:58 PM
MS
Post by: gasman on July 14, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
Hey Charlie, why don't you come with us up to Rimrock on Labor day weekend and show us what that yote can do.....
I don't think that yote has been off road sence the "Bloody Run" was closed down
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: jackmaster on July 14, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup::yeah:
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 14, 2011, 03:32:01 PM
Post by: gasman on July 14, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
:ass:
Post by: YellowDog on July 14, 2011, 04:00:09 PM
I like how everyones standing around drooling over it....get back to work guys you're paid by the hour :tup: :chuckle: I wish i couldve been there to drool also! thanks for sharing jackelopeIts a dealership I think so while the employees get paid by the hour the dealership gets paid what the book says the job takes to complete even if it actually takes 1/2 the the book says it should so the dealership can afford to have their mechanics standing around half the time. :boxin: :peep: :lol4:
Post by: Kowsrule30 on July 14, 2011, 04:12:23 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2011, 04:25:56 PM
I like how everyones standing around drooling over it....get back to work guys you're paid by the hour :tup: :chuckle: I wish i couldve been there to drool also! thanks for sharing jackelopeIts a dealership I think so while the employees get paid by the hour the dealership gets paid what the book says the job takes to complete even if it actually takes 1/2 the the book says it should so the dealership can afford to have their mechanics standing around half the time. :boxin: :peep: :lol4:
3/4 of the people you see standing around drooling are not paid by the hour.
:twocents:
And you pay what the book says at a dealership or an independent shop whether it takes 1/2 the time or 3 times the time.
If I told you what last month's profit was that the dealership made, you'd likely be very very very surprised.
:yike:
Post by: Bean Counter on July 14, 2011, 04:49:15 PM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup:
Seeing you're a newbie, we'll let that slide. However, you must identify yourself when I pull up to tow you outta that hole you're stuck in this fall in that prissy little Toyota or Geo Tracker you drive! It's gonna cost.
Welcome to the site. You'll like this one.
Hey now, you start bashing toyotas and you'll be on my chit list. Theres just nothing better than a tough ass little yota. Love pulling them poor little jeeps that cant go through a mudpuddle without getting stuck :chuckle: Just foolin!!
I just like buyin' Toyota's with 100,000+ miles and not batting an eye about how many years they have left :IBCOOL:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 14, 2011, 04:50:52 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on July 14, 2011, 05:00:22 PM
Wonder if he will venture off pavement with it or it will be a pavement pounder.:yeah: Probably just a pavement pounder. I'd take my quarter horse over a jeep or a yota any day. :twocents:
Post by: Klyne3 on July 14, 2011, 05:08:01 PM
Wonder if he will venture off pavement with it or it will be a pavement pounder.:yeah: Probably just a pavement pounder. I'd take my quarter horse over a jeep or a yota any day. :twocents:
I agree with the pavement pounder but I've seen some nice looking rigs heading up to trails which have surprised me, but I'll stick with my jeep - doesn't kick, bite or try to rub me off a fence :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2011, 07:44:33 PM
:chuckle:
The Hemi and other goods were added after the fact.
I dunno if this one will ever see the dirt or the rocks...I doubt it. Right now it thinks the trans has auto stick and is putting itself into limp mode because it doesn't have auto stick. :yike: Remove PCM, send back to AEV for a little remapping.
:chuckle:
Post by: Caseyd on July 14, 2011, 07:53:20 PM
Probably the most capable out of the box off road rig available.
Unimog :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 14, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on July 14, 2011, 08:04:51 PM
Post by: longknife on July 14, 2011, 08:14:29 PM
Two words that don't go together. *censored* and jeep :tup:
I will have to agree, but this is a nice heep! Dose it have 8 control arms made of thin metal? Or did they improve? All that HP to push the massive 33" tires.
Post by: BurleyDog on July 14, 2011, 08:38:05 PM
That thing WANTED to roll over. We weren't going fast, weren't on steep grade, it was a scary experience that made me realize how unsafe Jeeps really are.
Post by: predatorpro on July 14, 2011, 08:41:36 PM
Post by: Rick on July 14, 2011, 08:46:31 PM
He better learn how to change axle shafts. :chuckle:
Post by: buglebuster on July 14, 2011, 10:31:17 PM
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
Post by: jeepster on July 14, 2011, 11:01:12 PM
about a month ago i was out in burlington and i heard what i thought was a diesel truck pull up to an intersection... turns out it was a jk 2door with a cummins diesel in it, i saw the cummins badge on the side
Post by: longknife on July 15, 2011, 05:26:21 AM
some guy had a tj with a 5.7 hemi from a dodge magnum in it for sale around here, not really sure what happened to it, but it was freaking sweet, id kill to have a hemi in my jk unlimited.
about a month ago i was out in burlington and i heard what i thought was a diesel truck pull up to an intersection... turns out it was a jk 2door with a cummins diesel in it, i saw the cummins badge on the side
Everyone is going to the cummins 4bt conversion. The only thing, what do you need 800ftlbs of torque for wheeling(or the road in this case)? Know one in a 67 Bronco, he is pushing 1000ftlbs of torque. Its heavy as hell, and not lifted to push bigger tires????? Dont get me wrong, to each their own but alot of money, then things break, then it goes away...
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 15, 2011, 05:44:40 AM
My toy does damn good, locked front and rear, highsteer, dual transfer cases with 4.7 gear set in rear case, 63" Chevy springs in rear, stock rears up front, 5" shackles, 6shooter knuckles with arp studs, longfield super axles, 38" swampers with beadlocks, bilstien remote resivor shocks up front, 14" bilstien in rear. Oh ya and powered by a tbi 4.3l chevy v6. Full exo cage. :tup:
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
So, how much of it is actually Toyota still? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2011, 07:12:00 AM
My toy does damn good, locked front and rear, highsteer, dual transfer cases with 4.7 gear set in rear case, 63" Chevy springs in rear, stock rears up front, 5" shackles, 6shooter knuckles with arp studs, longfield super axles, 38" swampers with beadlocks, bilstien remote resivor shocks up front, 14" bilstien in rear. Oh ya and powered by a tbi 4.3l chevy v6. Full exo cage. :tup:
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
So, how much of it is actually Toyota still? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Sounds to me like you should be giving Chev a pat on the back more than Toyota. Sounds like a cool rig.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 15, 2011, 07:14:49 AM
My toy does damn good, locked front and rear, highsteer, dual transfer cases with 4.7 gear set in rear case, 63" Chevy springs in rear, stock rears up front, 5" shackles, 6shooter knuckles with arp studs, longfield super axles, 38" swampers with beadlocks, bilstien remote resivor shocks up front, 14" bilstien in rear. Oh ya and powered by a tbi 4.3l chevy v6. Full exo cage. :tup:
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
Your setup sounds like what some of the guys I used to jeep with from "The Ravensdale Powerline Pounders ". Damn near bullet proof.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 15, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
My toy does damn good, locked front and rear, highsteer, dual transfer cases with 4.7 gear set in rear case, 63" Chevy springs in rear, stock rears up front, 5" shackles, 6shooter knuckles with arp studs, longfield super axles, 38" swampers with beadlocks, bilstien remote resivor shocks up front, 14" bilstien in rear. Oh ya and powered by a tbi 4.3l chevy v6. Full exo cage. :tup:
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
We're all just flippin' crap! We flip crap, that's what we do.
Post by: buglebuster on July 15, 2011, 08:17:24 AM
My toy does damn good, locked front and rear, highsteer, dual transfer cases with 4.7 gear set in rear case, 63" Chevy springs in rear, stock rears up front, 5" shackles, 6shooter knuckles with arp studs, longfield super axles, 38" swampers with beadlocks, bilstien remote resivor shocks up front, 14" bilstien in rear. Oh ya and powered by a tbi 4.3l chevy v6. Full exo cage. :tup:
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
So, how much of it is actually Toyota still? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Uhhh the body/frame and the axles :chuckle: funny part is I'm a ford guy throwin in Chevy motor.
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2011, 09:02:48 AM
My toy does damn good, locked front and rear, highsteer, dual transfer cases with 4.7 gear set in rear case, 63" Chevy springs in rear, stock rears up front, 5" shackles, 6shooter knuckles with arp studs, longfield super axles, 38" swampers with beadlocks, bilstien remote resivor shocks up front, 14" bilstien in rear. Oh ya and powered by a tbi 4.3l chevy v6. Full exo cage. :tup:
I'm just flippin crap about jeeps, but the truth is they are both very capable rigs, if set up right! I don't bash anyone who loves and supports the offroad community and respects the trails :tup:
So, how much of it is actually Toyota still? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Uhhh the body/frame and the axles :chuckle: funny part is I'm a ford guy throwin in Chevy motor.
Thats a pretty popular swap, no? A tech I used to work with did that with his Yota...the 4.3 swap.
Post by: Caseyd on July 15, 2011, 10:11:03 AM
Same as the chevy small blocks in a FJ.
Toyotas are all about the Chevy engines.
Post by: timberghost72 on July 15, 2011, 10:30:24 AM
AEV makes some nice stuff. I like their kits to make a Jeep pickup. 8)
Those are pretty cool rigs. As soon as I get a few bucks I want to buy an old Willys Pick up and put a mild build on it. Those are some classic looking trucks.
Rolled over 5 times in a buddies Jeep. I will never ride in another one again.
That thing WANTED to roll over. We weren't going fast, weren't on steep grade, it was a scary experience that made me realize how unsafe Jeeps really are.
That may be how it was built. Generally they are safe.
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2011, 10:40:53 AM
These are way cool.
Post by: Caseyd on July 15, 2011, 10:44:34 AM
Post by: Alchase on July 15, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
AEV Brute Conversion...
These are way cool.
Saweat!
I always wanted to build a CJ8 Scrambler
Post by: timberghost72 on July 15, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 15, 2011, 02:06:35 PM
It's cool lookin with that 5.7 shoe horned in there, but not what I'd do with a new Jeep. Dad ran a GM V6 in his old Jeep CJ5 and did quite well with it. Ford 289's proved themselves well with less than 250hp in Jeeps of years past.
-Steve
Post by: outdoorstoreys on July 15, 2011, 02:28:55 PM
Post by: Rick on July 15, 2011, 04:25:02 PM
Ya know.. I love hp/torque, but 425hp in a short wheelbase like a Jeep is just asking to break stuff.
Burnsville Offroad does Hemi swaps as well.
You can do a 6.4 liter Hemi with 500HP
A 7.0 liter with 555HP
Or a 7.2 liter with 636HP.
Prices range from $27-35K.
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2011, 04:30:25 PM
Ya know.. I love hp/torque, but 425hp in a short wheelbase like a Jeep is just asking to break stuff. If the 3.8 can be modded externally to give 250-275hp or so with that 6spd wonder box, then the money saved from NOT adding all that extra weight to the front end with the 5.7 would be better spent on differential gear upgrade, beadlock wheels, hubs for the rear diff/axles, winches front and rear, computer relocate, tougher bumpers and such.
It's cool lookin with that 5.7 shoe horned in there, but not what I'd do with a new Jeep. Dad ran a GM V6 in his old Jeep CJ5 and did quite well with it. Ford 289's proved themselves well with less than 250hp in Jeeps of years past.
-Steve
The front end of this Jeep is built to handle the additional weight of the engine and it's got the good drivelines and good axles. Have you driven the Wrangler with the mini-van motor? No bueno...what a turd. The Pentastar engine'd Wranglers should be here come December, that ought to be an improvement.
This conversion is pushing $30k....no shortcuts have been taken. Sure you run the risk of breaking stuff, but anytime you mod something out like this you run that risk. That said, I drove this thing today. :yike: . It's a fun ride.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 15, 2011, 08:58:51 PM
Hey, what transfer case is in the new Rubicon?
-Steve
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 15, 2011, 09:11:38 PM
Post by: Alchase on July 15, 2011, 10:14:05 PM
Hey, what transfer case is in the new Rubicon?
-Steve
Rock-TracŪ The Rock-Trac transfer case is the heart of Wrangler Rubicon's extreme rock crawling ability. Because of the 4:1 low-gear ratio, Rock-Trac's low crawl speed makes it easy to ascend or descend sharp inclines and to crawl over obstacles.
Like a NP241 Select trac on Steriods
Post by: Rick on July 15, 2011, 10:18:23 PM
I don't doubt that thing's a fun ride.. Just not an extra $30k of durability in my book. I'm guessing a Dana 35ish front diff? That's a 7 1/2" ring gear, isn't it? Weaker than a Dana44. That kind of hp/TQ with a locker is capable of twisting axles if not snapping that smaller pinion gear. And we won't discuss Chrystler rear diffs. Does that one have friggen axle C clips? Now, the 3.8 may be anemic... OK, you got me there! Yes, I'm a fan of the 4.0 with some mods. And yes, any time you modify things you take a chance on breaking something way back in the middle of nowhere. That's why I'd go with a Curry or some such modded/locked up Ford 9" in the rear with hubs and a much stouter Dana 44 pumpkin/axles in the front. That would be better for a set of 4.11:1 or 4.89:1 gears and 35" tires. Not to say that there doesn't need to be a stronger mill making everything turn, I just can't justify that sort of money unless there's some serious upgrades elsewhere. I have no idea what the shaft hp/tq rating is for the transmission. I'm guessing it is not rated for anywhere near 425hp. But! I bet that thing is fun as hell on a muddy hill climb. I wasn't refering to the additional weight up front having an impact on the suspension, but rather the driveability in rough terrain with a short wheelbase.
Hey, what transfer case is in the new Rubicon?
-Steve
The Rubicons have D44s front and rear. The "standard" Wranglers get D30s in the front.
IIRC AEV and Burnsville put the 5 spds out of the Hemi Rams behind their Hemi swaps. The Rams are pushing 400HP so the tranny should hold up fine.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 15, 2011, 11:25:01 PM
-Steve
Post by: CementFinisher on July 15, 2011, 11:33:50 PM
I would love to take that thing on the trail :4w:
Hey Charlie, why don't you come with us up to Rimrock on Labor day weekend and show us what that yote can do.....
I don't think that yote has been off road sence the "Bloody Run" was closed down
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
a yote on rim rock that would be dirty, bad idea i see death in your future
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2011, 07:48:16 AM
You'd likely be really surprised by the Rubicon's out of the box ability and the equipment it's packing. It really does have some nice drivetrain stuff. There's a time and a place for everything for different folks. You like this, another guy likes that. I've had the 77 Bronco...tons of fun. I could break rear driveline u-joints on request. At 6'4" and 230# I'll pass on the race seats. I have enough trouble getting into small cars. Rubicon drivetrain is pretty bulletproof. I don't see a lot of used and abused Rubicons but we do see a few. They seem to hold up just fine. The biggest diff issues we've seen is when a shadetree mechanic decides to do a diff service and breaks the locker actuator when he puts it back together. :bdid: Then they bring it to us to fix.
Post by: timberghost72 on July 16, 2011, 09:45:44 AM
I've never seen a conversion like that with a standard Wrangler with the D30/35. It would be fun though to see how fast you could grenade those axles.
Post by: timberghost72 on July 16, 2011, 10:06:51 AM
I would love to take that thing on the trail :4w:
Hey Charlie, why don't you come with us up to Rimrock on Labor day weekend and show us what that yote can do.....
I don't think that yote has been off road sence the "Bloody Run" was closed down
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
a yote on rim rock that would be dirty, bad idea i see death in your future
Take the Yote up on Pucker Ridge :yike:
Post by: gasman on July 16, 2011, 10:11:58 AM
I would love to take that thing on the trail :4w:
Hey Charlie, why don't you come with us up to Rimrock on Labor day weekend and show us what that yote can do.....
I don't think that yote has been off road sence the "Bloody Run" was closed down
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
a yote on rim rock that would be dirty, bad idea i see death in your future
Take the Yote up on Pucker Ridge :yike:
You won't find me on the down side :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 16, 2011, 11:07:50 AM
Post by: CementFinisher on July 16, 2011, 11:31:25 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 17, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
The biggest diff issues we've seen is when a shadetree mechanic decides to do a diff service and breaks the locker actuator when he puts it back together. :bdid: Then they bring it to us to fix.
I've never played with air lockers. I'd love a couple in my truck though. I've twisted more that one yoke, axle, U-joint and driveline with detroit lockers front and rear though.
Speaking of diff service.. I changed the lube in my ZF6 & T-case yesterday with Royal Purple Syncro Max synthetic. (big whoop.. I know, two plugs), but I'll be doing the diff's this week too.
It sounds like th Rubi is quite the 'modern production trail rig' with many of the upgrades that trail runners would put on a rig. That interior has come a long way from a metal dash with not much more than a spedometer. And yes... Jeeps have always had a ton of aftermarket stuff available.
I still wanna build a Bronco. I like to be different. ie; I don't play well with others. :chuckle:
-Steve
Post by: longknife on July 18, 2011, 05:57:19 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2011, 11:46:55 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 18, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2011, 01:47:25 PM
The first few years they were air, then they switched to electric.
Yes, definitely 2003, but I think that was the only year of it. I could(probably) be wrong.
Post by: quadrafire on July 18, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
Post by: kckrawler on July 18, 2011, 03:14:57 PM
I read the other day that Mopar was gonna make a pickup conversion kit for the jeep, don't recall which body style for $4995
Had an 04 with the cheesy air compressors...I thought they changed over to electronic when they changed over to JK?
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 18, 2011, 03:30:22 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on July 20, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
I'll stick with Toyota. Mine's not built, just good tires and extremely practical.
that's a bad azz jeep though...
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Post by: fair-chase on July 20, 2011, 04:42:23 PM
I read the other day that Mopar was gonna make a pickup conversion kit for the jeep, don't recall which body style for $4995
Here ya go Quad...
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