Post by: briancorneal on July 16, 2011, 01:18:42 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2011, 06:11:58 AM
Post by: MIKEXRAY on July 16, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 16, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2011, 08:57:21 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
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The Hooter Shooter is a machine that will shoot the bow with perfect form, so that you can really look at the equipment, and identify whether the bow is performing to the level that you want. The Hooter Shooter so closely simulates individuals, that most people can learn to shoot like the machine with the same sight settings.
The Hooter Shooter shoots with such precision that it will place the same arrow into the exact hole at 20 yards. This allows you to really evaluate your equipment, and identify if there is a problem, and if so what it is causing it, make an adjustment, then test to see if the changes you made resolved/improved it. With the Hooter Shooter, you can offer your customer visual, undeniable proof that their bow is performing to the highest level possible.
Q: What is a Hooter Shooter and what can it do?
A: A machine that can shoot most bows with perfect form. So closely simulating an individual without the human variables that a person can learn to shoot like the machine with the same sight settings. The machine shoots with such precision that it will shoot the same arrow into the same hole at 20 yards even on a poorly adjusted bow.
This precision causes any changes in the bow, variations in arrows and arrow rest, variation of release, changes of heel pressure, bow orientation, and draw length to be reflected by where the arrow hits. The Hooter Shooter will shoot most 2 cam and single cam bows using most hand held releases or releases using a wrist strap. However, not the back tension type releases.
"If all your arrows won't use the same hole, then you know for sure it is not the shooter but the equipment that has a problem."
This machine is engineered to shoot a bow the way an archer should with adjustable high/low wrist, universal release holder and unique grip which emulates the human hand. Of what value is it to an archer to know absolutely, if their equipment is the cause or their shooting is the cause for missed shots. With the Hooter Shooter, you can offer your customer visual, undeniable proof that their bow is shooting an arrow in the same arrow hole repeatedly. Are all your arrows flying identically? Now you can test them with unerring accuracy. Is your bow tuned well enough to have broadheads shoot exactly like field tips? With the Hooter Shooter, you will have the tool you need to find out and tune your bow to accomplish the results you desire.
MSRP: $1,189.00
Features:
Tune arrows to hit the same hole Advanced bow tuning
Level your sight 2nd & 3rd
axis’s at full draw where it matters Discern good & bad products
Arrow Variations: (why don't they all use the same hole)
1. Clearance differences 5. Nock differences
2. Spine differences 6. Nock alignment
3. Fletch differences 7. Arrow straightness
4. Weight differences 8. Broadheads
Bow Variations: (what effects the bows shootability)
1. Effect of cam timing 9. Stabilizer type and style
2. Effect of cam lean 10. Draw weight
3. Effects of string and cable stretch 11. Draw length variations
4. Arrow rest adjustments 12. Bow orientation (is it level)
5. Cable guard adjustments 13. Heel pressure (on most bows)
6. Effect of nock point styles 14. The effect of the 3rd axis
7. Effect of release changes 15. Changes in friction
(axles & sliders)
8. Tiller adjustments 16. Things vibrating loose
Post by: dreamunelk on July 16, 2011, 09:53:41 AM
However, I still think that you do not need it unless there is something I am missing. I find that when the arrow does not go where I want it to go 99% of the time it is my fault.
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2011, 11:29:26 AM
Why?
Why? Well, for the same reason guys need hunting rifles that shoot .25 MOA and for the same reason guys need 3500 Ram trucks with lift kits and 39" tires to drive around Bellevue...because we are gear whore dudes who can't leave anything alone or "good enough"
:chuckle:
And because it sounds cool when we tell our buddys that we had it done...
:chuckle:
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 16, 2011, 11:35:11 AM
Post by: briancorneal on July 16, 2011, 11:39:57 AM
Why?
Why? Well, for the same reason guys need hunting rifles that shoot .25 MOA and for the same reason guys need 3500 Ram trucks with lift kits and 39" tires to drive around Bellevue...because we are gear whore dudes who can't leave anything alone or "good enough"
:chuckle:
And because it sounds cool when we tell our buddys that we had it done...
:chuckle:
Truth be told, I'd like to get those done too
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Post by: briancorneal on July 16, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
Post by: briancorneal on July 16, 2011, 11:53:45 AM
i had my maxxis "crackerized" just to see what the guy could do. it draws easier fits better and shoots damn well if im doing my part. i believe he uses a hooter shooter but not positive.
Where'd you get that done? How much?
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Post by: bullcanyon on July 16, 2011, 12:29:59 PM
Post by: Fullabull on July 16, 2011, 01:40:42 PM
1. Learing to tune you bow is not difficult, just do a search on here for Eastmans Tuning guide. it has everything you need to tune you bow. Tools are simple and cheap.
2. Once you know how to tune your own bow, if anything goes wrong in the field (trip and fall or anything that changes your bow) you can retune or repair it in no time at all ;)
That will be more valuable to you then having someone else tune your bow (without you there)! I believe in an previous post you said you drew the Toutle tag this year (congrats). I would want to be able to take care of my own stuff on a hunt like that ;)
Good luck to you...
Fulla
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 16, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
i had my maxxis "crackerized" just to see what the guy could do. it draws easier fits better and shoots damn well if im doing my part. i believe he uses a hooter shooter but not positive.
Where'd you get that done? How much?
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the guy is on archerytalk and goes by crackers. i wont say prices but ive paid around the same for a winners choice slapped on my bow. he tunes it and you get a new string/cables.
Problem is that it won't tune the bow to "you". Everyone grips the bow differently. So you will add a different amount of torque to the bow than another shooter or machine. They will get the bow timed and shooting at its optimum, but you may still have to make some minor adjustments to get the bow to shoot to your style.
bows should be tuned to achieve maxium performance not person. how do you tune for torque anyway? :dunno:
i will agree with other people, learn to do it yourself. its acutally kinda fun.
Post by: MIKEXRAY on July 16, 2011, 06:21:22 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 16, 2011, 07:46:38 PM
Post by: RadSav on July 16, 2011, 08:07:06 PM
We too have a Hooter Shooter here that we use quite a bit to trouble shoot and test with. It's a good machine even if it is made by SH. If you ever wanted to know if its you, the bow or your arrows the HootShoot will tell you in quick order.
Post by: bullcanyon on July 17, 2011, 06:35:06 AM
I had an allegience that was giving me fits. Took it down to let Rod at wholesale mess with it. We both shot it through paper and got two different tears. He had me a try a different release and got yet another tear. We held the bow different. To account for the different amount of torque we applied to the bow. Adjustments to the rest were necessary. I doubt to many people will be able to release as clean as a machine. But what ever gives you confidence and helps you hit what you are aiming at.
Post by: Cylvertip on July 17, 2011, 11:41:01 AM
- like here..... (an oldie but a goodie) :tup:
Post by: briancorneal on July 17, 2011, 12:50:02 PM
I sooo thought this thread was going somewhere else :bash:
- like here..... (an oldie but a goodie) :tup:
That's funny. I think she's my future wife. But seriously folks, I know how to tune my bow, and that is one way of the hundreds that exist. Just from this post, there are a ton of suggestions. When you zero your scope on a bench rest, you mechically dial your scope in without much human interference. Anything else, and you've got breathing, unsteady position, and trigger squeeze to account for. Same with archery, I take. Yes, I have the toutle tag this year, and after 5 years with no luck, I want to do whatever is possible to increase my chances before the arrow flies. It might be an over-achieving thing to do, but so is shooting your bow everyday, but some people swear by it. From what I read, it'll be $75 well spent.
Post by: TheHunt on July 17, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 17, 2011, 04:01:19 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on July 17, 2011, 04:14:34 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 17, 2011, 04:27:56 PM
You tune for torque by making fine adjustments to the rest. You don't think that you will release the arrow the same as I do? You ever shot a bow through paper than have someone else fire an arrow with your bow through paper and see a different tear? Granted I'm not a paper fan. Some bows will show a more drastic difference from shooter to shooter than others.
I had an allegience that was giving me fits. Took it down to let Rod at wholesale mess with it. We both shot it through paper and got two different tears. He had me a try a different release and got yet another tear. We held the bow different. To account for the different amount of torque we applied to the bow. Adjustments to the rest were necessary. I doubt to many people will be able to release as clean as a machine. But what ever gives you confidence and helps you hit what you are aiming at.
if your tuning for torque you should be adressing form flaws. :twocents: so my bow is tuned in a hooter shooter yet my bh and fp's have the same poi. if the rest was "tuned" to compensate for torque i doubt that would be the case. agree to disagree on this one, just like you said whatever makes you feel better about it. :tup:
Post by: ICEMAN on July 17, 2011, 08:21:32 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on July 17, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
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