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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 21, 2011, 06:17:42 PM
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O.k Since I am a bowhunter lets keep stirring up sheeet :chuckle: tell me what is the toughest broadhead you ever shot and it flies good - it kills good - penetrates good and the blades never fall out and the blades never brake ... now to me there are not many ....except one !!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: NOW PLEASE THIS IS MY OPINION AGAIN :chuckle: :chuckle: WONDER IF I WILL HAVE ANY FRIENDS SOON :sry: :chuckle:
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O.k Since I am a bowhunter lets keep stirring up sheeet :chuckle: tell me what is the toughest broadhead you ever shot and it flies good - it kills good - penetrates good and the blades never fall out and the blades never brake ... now to me there are not many ....except one !!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: NOW PLEASE THIS IS MY OPINION AGAIN :chuckle: :chuckle: WONDER IF I WILL HAVE ANY FRIENDS SOON :sry: :chuckle:
THIS IS ONE BONE SPLITTING SOB ...GUARANTEE YA THAT !!!!!! FEAR NOTHEN JUST WHACKIN AND STACKIN :sry:
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GEEEEZ No comments guess I lost interrest :dunno: :drool:
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Looks like a winner to me!! even though im not a bow hunter and dont know a whole lot about broadheads... I got ur back! :tup:
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John Im not your freind no more :chuckle:
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ya, but is it good out to 110 yds? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I had to go there... :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
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Actualy that broadhead look like it could penetrate pretty well !!
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I shot my first deer, a small 3x3 wt, with a wasp head in 1977.
Yeh the wasp heads were a pretty good head in the 1970's I didn't know they still made them :rolleyes:
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I shot my first deer, a small 3x3 wt, with a wasp head in 1977.
Yeh the wasp heads were a pretty good head in the 1970's I didn't know they still made them :rolleyes:
yeah they just have gotten better :chuckle: :tup:
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Looks like the old Muzzy broadhead I was using 25 years ago. They had a commercial where they would shoot one through a cinder block. When I saw that commercial, that's when I started using them.
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Very cool heads. Myself i love the Steelforce broadheads they are pretty tough as well
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sounds like somebody it trying to get picked up fro prostaff... :dunno:
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
hahaha hey now I think you should demonstrate that comment ....go get that brick and show us :tup: :chuckle: :chuckle: I never tried a shuttle T but alot of guys I know shoot them and no complaints so they must be good ...BUT I stick with WASP :tup:
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
hahaha hey now I think you should demonstrate that comment ....go get that brick and show us :tup: :chuckle: :chuckle: I never tried a shuttle T but alot of guys I know shoot them and no complaints so they must be good ...BUT I stick with WASP :tup:
Ive got video of testing arrows shooting them into concrete.. im not afradi to blow stuff up.. lol
the shuttle T's are extemely tuff but I love them because I dont believe there is a better shooting fixed blade.
They also are VERY quiet in flight, I have found vented blades make a little more noise :twocents:
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what's the difference between the WASP Boss and the Muzzy? They look the same to me. The Muzzy has been a workhorse for me so I keep screwing them into the tips of my arrows.
(http://C:\Documents and Settings\kjceurte\Desktop\muzzy.jpg[img] [img]C:\Documents and Settings\kjceurte\Desktop\wasp.jpg)
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Bowhunter you need to stop living in the 90's and try a real broadhead. :chuckle:
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Bowhunter you need to stop living in the 90's and try a real broadhead. :chuckle:
:yike:HAHAHA
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No I agree with how they perform and I know you kill sheet with them and its all opinion ..As long as it works ....I have seen these guys shoot these cinder blocks at further ranges but they need to try it at like 20yrds and tell me what they come up with...the further away the block the less chance of the broadhead breaking ......The arrow looses energy so their for the chances increase in not destroying the broadhead :twocents:and like I have said in my experiences with Wasp they blow threw bone ..they never brake and I never ever lost a blade that I can remember since I changed over to the WASP BOSS...I have had them brake when I used 125 GR ..BIG DADDIES but never with the low profile blades ... :tup:
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Bowhunter you need to stop living in the 90's and try a real broadhead. :chuckle:
:yike:HAHAHA
yeah I guess but I AM OLD SCHOOL I SUPPOSE ...But I have a good record :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
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I'll stick with my good old Muzzy three blades. I don't know how much more penetration I need into the ground after it passes through a deer. I have killed several deer with them the past few years and all but one were total pass through. I'm hoping to try one on an elk this year and see how it goes.
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what's the difference between the WASP Boss and the Muzzy? They look the same to me. The Muzzy has been a workhorse for me so I keep screwing them into the tips of my arrows.
(http://C:\Documents and Settings\kjceurte\Desktop\muzzy.jpg[img] [img]C:\Documents and Settings\kjceurte\Desktop\wasp.jpg)
I would say the blades ...and wasp will shoot better :twocents: I bought my boy some muzzies last year He shot a muley and when I found the arrow with passed threw there was two blades missing ...killed the deer thow..and thunderheads do the same ...JUNK :tup: :tup: and I posted the prove so thats all I can do .... :tup:
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hey I is as simple as going and trying them ...in 30+ solid years of bowhunting I would think I have tried many so I am just giving my :twocents: so you quit wasting your money :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :dunno: ;)
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
I didnt think shuttle Ts were leagel in this state because the back of the blade doesnt angle toward the vanes of the arrow. :dunno:
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I go old school with Thunderheads. However, the most impressive broadhead performance I've ever seen was a 3-blade muzzy in WY in 1993. My buddy took a 40 yard shot at a 4x5 bull standing broadside behind a big lodgepole pine. Shot looked awesome, until the arrow hit a small branch at the front end of the trees canopy at the top of its arc, and deflected back behind the trunk. Bull was obviously hit, and had trouble using his left rear leg. He holed up in a patch of timber, we gave him 6 hours and went in, my buddy uphill and me downhill.
We found him dead. As we dressed and quartered him for packing, we discovered that the arrow had hit square on the hip joint, shattering the head of the femur, and punching through the left hip socket and penetrating into the abdomen. The broadhead was in the abdominal wall just ahead of the penis sheath. It has punched through 3-4" of hard, solid bones, after we washed it up it looked like it was brand new out of the package.
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Shuttle T's for my money best broadhead all around. Penetration, cutting diameter, flys like a field tip, I shoot the 125's.
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
I didnt think shuttle Ts were leagel in this state because the back of the blade doesnt angle toward the vanes of the arrow. :dunno:
ALL So some of us are hunting illegal :chuckle: :chuckle: :yike:
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
hahaha hey now I think you should demonstrate that comment ....go get that brick and show us :tup: :chuckle: :chuckle: I never tried a shuttle T but alot of guys I know shoot them and no complaints so they must be good ...BUT I stick with WASP :tup:
Ive got video of testing arrows shooting them into concrete.. im not afradi to blow stuff up.. lol
the shuttle T's are extemely tuff but I love them because I dont believe there is a better shooting fixed blade.
They also are VERY quiet in flight, I have found vented blades make a little more noise :twocents:
hahaha I respect your opinion .....NOW GO BACK TO YOUR TREE STAND ... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
I didnt think shuttle Ts were leagel in this state because the back of the blade doesnt angle toward the vanes of the arrow. :dunno:
that was a good point so here it is as stated in the big game regs.. SHUTTLE T ( LEGAL )
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I have never used them but I don't see anything in the description that would make Shuttle T's illegal.
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I have never used them but I don't see anything in the description that would make Shuttle T's illegal.
yeah me neither thats why I posted it ...... :tup:
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Shuttle T's are legal.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,32640.msg386813.html#msg386813 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,32640.msg386813.html#msg386813)
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:chuckle: :chuckle: Buy Wasp and do not need to worry about it ..... :tup: :twocents:
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:chuckle: :chuckle: Buy Wasp and do not need to worry about it ..... :tup: :twocents:
I don't want to just sting them with a wasp. I want to kill them, I shoot montec :P :chuckle:
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hahaha O they kill them believe me ..... I just like messing with people ,thats all ...but I have to brag about something that has been FLAWLESS in taking game . That includes Hornaday bullets .... those are the only two I run with :chuckle: :chuckle: :sry: :tup: Nice to know everyone agrees on everything... :IBCOOL:
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:chuckle: I figured you would like that. You stated a pretty good fact about those solid "BASS" bullets :chuckle:
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I will stick to my slick tricks. I am not big on the Wasp design.
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Shuttle T's nothing like them, never with be...... Biggest cutting diameter you will find for such a low profile, straight flying broadhead!!!!!
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O.K ITS time to end this thread before it gets us all in trouble :chuckle: :chuckle: :sry:
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Shuttle T's nothing like them, never with be...... Biggest cutting diameter you will find for such a low profile, straight flying broadhead!!!!!
Do you need spelling lessons too ? :chuckle:
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This tread is useless we all know my wac'ems are the best so lets just end this conversation now. :stirthepot:
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I have used the 100 grain Shuttle T's on two elk. The wound that the broadhead opened up was much larger than any of the other broadheads that I have used. I will not use anything else in the fix broadhead line until something else comes out that is even better. But from an engineering perspective the shape of the Shuttle T allows for more hide to be cut while the arrow is starting to penetrate the hide. Whereas the other fixed broadhead cut immediately upon touching the hide. For me logically this makes more sense from a performance perspective then the other fixed broadheads.
And the blood trail from using the shuttle T locks... A blind person could track it... This is good for me as my eyes are getting more mature. The shuttle T's are also very will machined as they do not move once they are seated on the arrow. Some that I have used in the past did move which made for interesting tuning exercises. As others have said that there is very little difference from shooting a practice tip verses a shuttle T. I still tune mine but it so miner that I am not sure why I do it other than being a person who cannot stop messing with my bow.
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Bowhunter your arm has to be pretty damn sore by now or damn near broke! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Dang it man ...whats a guy have to do to make a point .. 15 kill shots that I could find ..these shuttle T guys need to step up to the plate and show me this concrete block trick and now they are telling me I am living in the 90,s hahahaha well hell give me back another 20 yrs of my life and Ill bang with ya :chuckle: :chuckle: all and now they are making fun of my 4" straight fletched arrows ... what the h$ll you think I am a target shooter or something geeeeez I was into that 25 yrs ago and I shot fingers only !!! yeah I held my ground back then and still can ....I just changed over to a release about 8 yrs ago and I like it now I am used to it but I was bred to shoot fingers and I still check out my ability to do so here and there.....and for all you youngsters out their please show some respect to us old timers :o :yeah: Now please do not comment on this again because I do not want to have to keep typing back !!! :P :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Who's all the Youngster's? :dunno: :chuckle:
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Who's all the Youngster's? :dunno: :chuckle:
They are listening too !! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Ok just checking! :chuckle:
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I think the pictures says it all... But it anyone wants to have a long distance brick shooting contests against them with another head im in.. ;)
I am with you shot them form the first time last year will never change shuttle T all the way
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The Saying goes (YOU CANT TEACH AN OLD DOG NEW TRICKS.... GUESS THATS THE SAME FOR BOWHUNTER45!!!)
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Slick Trick 125's all the way baby. Check thes two videos out. The first video is a bunch of random broadheads. Towards the end a Slick Trick is shot through a barrell and the head still looks damn near brand new. ( Fast forward to the time marker 5:00-Interlock, 5:20-G5 Stryker, 5:40 Wacem, 6:02 Slick Trick) The second video is a close up of a slick trick after it was shot into a cinder block. Again damn near looks brand new.
Although if I didn't shoot Trick's I'd shoot the Shuttle T.
Broadhead Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-srIw3na0#ws)
Slick Trick Torture Test 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZDzSegLaM#)
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part 2 of the Ultimate broadhead test 60lb PSE Evo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwqekkGFLYM#ws)
interesting to watch..
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I go old school with Thunderheads. However, the most impressive broadhead performance I've ever seen was a 3-blade muzzy in WY in 1993. My buddy took a 40 yard shot at a 4x5 bull standing broadside behind a big lodgepole pine. Shot looked awesome, until the arrow hit a small branch at the front end of the trees canopy at the top of its arc, and deflected back behind the trunk. Bull was obviously hit, and had trouble using his left rear leg. He holed up in a patch of timber, we gave him 6 hours and went in, my buddy uphill and me downhill.
We found him dead. As we dressed and quartered him for packing, we discovered that the arrow had hit square on the hip joint, shattering the head of the femur, and punching through the left hip socket and penetrating into the abdomen. The broadhead was in the abdominal wall just ahead of the penis sheath. It has punched through 3-4" of hard, solid bones, after we washed it up it looked like it was brand new out of the package.
I've shot two BT's the past two years with the same muzzy 3 blade. Didnt realize it until after I shot the second dear. First dear was a complete pass through heart shot second dear I was in a real awkward position and pulled the shot a foot and a half and ended up blowing right through the left hip socked and out the other side. Found the arrow and broadhead was perfect. Dear went about 40 yards and piled up :tup:
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For carrying around in my quiver, the G5s work very well. It's been so long since I killed an elk that I've been through about 3 different ones since. My elk went down to a Zwickey two-blade and they are awesome.
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Well because of this thread I bought a dozen Shuttle T's. Can't wait to try them.
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To each its own. Indians killed buffalo with stone tips. As long as the head shoots good for you keep shooting it. I shoot shuttle T's and have no plans on changing. But thats me.
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What, no Razor Dobbs Black Death? Does anyone use these?
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Well because of this thread I bought a dozen Shuttle T's. Can't wait to try them.
:tup: :chuckle:
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If you want the best broadheads money can buy, go to AK Bowhunting Supply.
http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/ (http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/)
I shoot the Masai 150gr broadhead. Flies like a DART. It is a single-bevel head that you match to your fletching (i.e., right-wing or left-wing). It also has a tanto tip that causes rotation on impact adn will shatter bone and keep on going. Full pass through every time for me!
Maasai Broadhead Specs:
•440C Stainless Steel blades - Sub Zero Quenched
•58 Rockwell Hardness
•Convex edge design
•25 degree Single bevel (right or left)
•Tanto tip
•CNC aircraft grade aluminum ferrule
•Smooth transition, low profile ferrule
•Stainless Steel screws
•Razor sharp and ready to hunt
•Available in 200, 175, 150, 125 and 100 grains
•Screw in design fits all threaded inserts
•3 per pack
Maasai Broadhead Dimensions:
Maasai 100 1 1/8" x 1 9/16"
Maasai 125 1 1/8" x 1 3/4"
Maasai 150 1 1/8" x 1 3/4"
Maasai 175 1 1/8" x 1 7/8"
Maasai 200 1 1/8" x 1 7/8"
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I'll stick with my Sonic 125gr broadhead. Multiple years of full freezers is enough proof for me. If it flies good and kills for you, keep shooting it. There will always be someone or something that is the next best or toughest out there, I say shoot whatever puts meat on the ground for ya.
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I'll stick with my Sonic 125gr broadhead. Multiple years of full freezers is enough proof for me. If it flies good and kills for you, keep shooting it. There will always be someone or something that is the next best or toughest out there, I say shoot whatever puts meat on the ground for ya.
How have the sonics been for you on Blade retention?
I shot them for awhile several years back, I liked the way the flew but lost blades several times.
I would guess they have addressed that by now?
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Since I regularly take 120 yards shots, I like the Rage broadheads. I just can get them screwed on and off really quickly so I don't get caught with expandables.
Or maybe i don't do that at all and just use G5 Strikers. :tung: They've worked well for me.
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O.K I thought I was done arguing over this one but GUESS NOT.. talk about pld school .. there is no way in h$ll I would shoot any broadhead over 100 gr.. I never told ya but for years I shot 75 gr wasp and they last muley I killed in Winthrop I shot head on frontal shot right above the brisket ans it went clean threw and came out it ---s !!!! I am really sorry that you guys do not believe me but thats fine ....your lose not mine :chuckle: :chuckle: :sry: I basically grew up with a recurve shooting the old bear broadheads and I had pass threws with them to but the furthest I shot was 25 to 30 at whitetail.....what really shocks me,is THAT NO ONE HAS TRIED A WASP BOSS 100 GR.... :o :o but thats fine more for me .... :tup:
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I just figured out what wasp stands for.
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I just figured out what wasp stands for.
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:yike: :yike: :yike: : :bdid: 1300 views well at least I kept us going for a lttle while :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Thanks nubbs I'm pretty proud of myself for that one :IBCOOL:
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SHUTTLE T best ever :tup:
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Shuttle T's!!!!!
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Man, I am seeing a LOT of comments for the old Shuttle T... Maybe we should rename this thread? "BADDEST BROADHEAD ON THE PLANET- SURVEY SAYS- SHUTTLE T!" :chuckle:
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I just figured out what wasp stands for.
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History leason - Originally before becoming a born again Christian Dick Maleski was a Dead Head pot smoker. WASP stood for "We All Smoke Pot". Later after finding Christ he changed the acronym to "We All Save People".
For those asking what the difference is between Wasp and Muzzy or Shuttle T - It's the blades! If you ever get down to Vancouver you should give me a call and pay a visit. I'll throw some blades in the microscope and you'll be amazed at the real difference. In a month or two I should have my new digital photoscope attachement. I'll then be able to quickly shoot photos to post on Hunt-Washington.
Now that Crescent is no longer making Rocky Mountains blades WASP has no equal in a stainless blade. They are as hard as it gets without being brittle and the grind and hone are flawless. They are the standard we will be measuring the new stainless Savora heads to.
In 2011 Slick Trick began making blades from AEB-L stainless instead of the cheap garbage they started with. You Slick Trick fans should start seeing some real changes for the better when you start throwing the new blades. But, that grinding process can not match what WASP is doing. Or what we will be doing with Savora for 2012.
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another vote on Shuttle T.. u wont find a tougher head or thicker blades out there..not to mention there isn't head that flies as quiet and accurately as a Shuttle. The wound channel on these heads is amazing
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another vote on Shuttle T.. u wont find a tougher head or thicker blades out there..not to mention there isn't head that flies as quiet and accurately as a Shuttle. The wound channel on these heads is amazing
:chuckle: :chuckle: Yeah I suppose but I have never broke a wasp on nothen I have killed and they are very quit because they are so small and low profile and I do not think the shuttle T will blow threw bone like a wasp ....just my opinion since I have used them flawlessly for over 30 yrs now ...I have not heard nothen bad about shuttle T s So maybe some day before I kill over I them :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
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Shuttle T's are tough as hell ! That being said I also really like the slick tricks for wound channel . one more flap to spill blood. On lager game the shuttle is hard to beat , for a slower bow the hell fire would be a good choice along with the phat head .
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what I am saying now is I am calling BS ...I have way to many wasp that have dropped sheet and I am needing to defend what I know ... you can not brake a wasp blade ...Period ...take a pair pliars to that shuttle T and bend it side ways ...wear a pair of leather gloves and eye protection so when the blade snaps in half you do not get it in the face ... I have already done this with my wasp and I guarantee ya its not braking ..so someone please do this so we can move on :bash: :bash: and i am not saying anything bad about shuttle Ts but none of you ever tried one obviously ...Do I need to keep digging more arrows out because I have a few :dunno:
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look at those blades ...seriously ...most broadheads would of broke ..see how twisted those blades are ? thats from going threw an elks shoulder ...obvisiously it went threw some thick bone to look like that ...you do not shoot threw rib bones and it twists blades like that :sry:
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Durability of blade edge is really the key. So many of todays blades after going through hair, hide and chest wall are already dull before they get to the good stuff. It's a real balancing act to get a great blade edge that is not brittle especially with stainless steel which is really a poor blade material. WASP has done as well and anyone in that catagory.
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well I am am sure someone is backing me up on this .....as you can see this is why I am so convinced on the issue and this is only the ones I have found in the last few years !! :dunno:
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15 kill shots -- 1 bear - 4 elk - 10 deer ... all dead- none wounded - and no broadheads broke or blades lost SO YOU TELL ME ? Those numbers are just the ones that I have found so you can do the math... :drool:
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180 grain Silver Flames
Take two of your puny broadheads, forge them together, harden them, make the edges shave, and you may have a broadhead that is about 75% as tough as the Silver Flames. :stirthepot:
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If I wasn't shooting magnus I'd be shooting shuttle t.
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180 grain Silver Flames
Take two of your puny broadheads, forge them together, harden them, make the edges shave, and you may have a broadhead that is about 75% as tough as the Silver Flames. :stirthepot:
o.k I buy some and put them threw my Mathews ...what kinda speed you think I can get :dunno: think I need to worry much about a blood trial ? :tung: