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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: jackelope on July 27, 2011, 09:46:53 AM

Title: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2011, 09:46:53 AM: So I felt like starting a multi-page debate that probably has no merit so I decided this would be a good topic.
:chuckle:

I have an opportunity to pick up a .284 win barrel for my T/C Encore. I already have a .280 barrel for it. I don't necessarily mind having lots of barrels, but is there anything that the .284 has that the .280 doesn't? Just for the sake of discussion, action length has no bearing with an Encore so the long action/short action debate is null unless you guys really want to debate that for the bolt action crowd. I'm not against that.

I'm not a reloader.
(for the sake of discussion)

Fire away
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: Huntnphish on July 27, 2011, 09:50:42 AM: If it were a really good deal then why not. If just an average deal I don't see the need if you already own a .280. If you want a step up to .284 from the .280 I would go with a 7mm RM. :twocents:
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: C-Money on July 27, 2011, 09:52:06 AM: Cant hurt, some guys are really into .284's. I have a friend that shoots on, ammo seems to be the biggest set back, hard to find at times. If you have the cash, why not! Buy it!
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: bobcat on July 27, 2011, 09:54:14 AM: Absolutely no need for a 284 if you have a 280. Especially with you not being a handloader, the 284 ammo would be unnecessarily expensive. I'm sure you have other things to spend your money on. :dunno:
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: Curly on July 27, 2011, 10:01:46 AM: In a single shot, there is no advantage to having a .284 Win over the .280 Rem. In a bolt gun, you could argue that the short action 284 may be better..........but a single shot, nope.

(This reminds me..........I really need to try selling my .284 Win).
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 27, 2011, 10:27:04 AM: You should buy it and then buy curlys too.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2011, 10:41:24 AM: Quote from: Huntnphish on July 27, 2011, 09:50:42 AM
If it were a really good deal then why not. If just an average deal I don't see the need if you already own a .280. If you want a step up to .284 from the .280 I would go with a 7mm RM. :twocents:

I had a 7 rem mag heavy barrel for it too but I unloaded it in favor of my 300 win mag barrel. I'd honestly have a hard time not using the 300wm barrel for everything big game in this state. The standard rifle contour barrels are very lightweight and make for a nice compact rig even with the barrels being 26" so for a backpack gun I'd leave the 300wm heavy barrel at home probably but thats about it.

Quote from: bobcat on July 27, 2011, 09:54:14 AM
Absolutely no need for a 284 if you have a 280. Especially with you not being a handloader, the 284 ammo would be unnecessarily expensive. I'm sure you have other things to spend your money on. :dunno:

Yes, yes I do.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: Bean Counter on July 27, 2011, 10:42:59 AM: No, you should not. You should buy ammo for the end of the world 8)

:tinfoil:
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2011, 10:51:11 AM: Quote from: Bean Counter on July 27, 2011, 10:42:59 AM
No, you should not. You should buy ammo for the end of the world 8)

:tinfoil:

As it sits right now, if I run out of ammo at the end of the world, the zombies have taken their fair share of lead and I'd have put up a good fight.
:rockin:
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: FC on July 27, 2011, 11:32:42 AM: Looking at ammo prices I wouldn't even think about it unless you reload. Double the price of .280 bullets with a lot less to choose from and very similar ballistics.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: Huntnphish on July 27, 2011, 03:44:53 PM: Sounds like its a resounding no Jack. ;)
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 27, 2011, 03:48:39 PM: Yes it is...apparently there may be such a thing as too many different calibers. I told the guy I'd trade if he wanted to work out a deal but I did not want to purchase it from him. I have some iron to move if he's interested. We'll see.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: mazama on July 27, 2011, 05:44:36 PM: Factory ammo was made for the win88,100 models. So that is what you get for factoy ammo.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: Curly on July 27, 2011, 05:53:37 PM: :yeah:
And the bullets are seated fairly deep to fit in the detachable mag for the model 100. A reloader could get a lot more performance out of it for a single shot.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: high country on July 28, 2011, 08:52:12 AM: twist?
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 28, 2011, 10:31:10 AM: Quote from: high country on July 28, 2011, 08:52:12 AM
twist?

1:9
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: GoldTip on July 28, 2011, 10:41:41 AM: For your gun, and without reloading, there would absolutely no benefit in having the .284 win when you already have a a 280 rem barrel, it would be simple redundancy. Now if it were a 6.5x284 barrel I would suggest you do the deal and learn to reload.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 28, 2011, 10:43:06 AM: I'm gonna pass, good discussion either way with good info.
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: Todd_ID on July 28, 2011, 08:56:08 PM: I just sold a .284. I've got probably 3 or 4 boxes of ammo I'll give you free if you post a video of how the wife reacts to you buying another gun!
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: addicted on July 28, 2011, 09:12:52 PM: youve got light and fast, time to get a hammer..... 9.3x62

I will never try to discourage a purchase of such parameters, but i will push guidence elsewhere. :chuckle:
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: jackelope on July 28, 2011, 09:24:51 PM: Quote from: Todd_ID on July 28, 2011, 08:56:08 PM
I just sold a .284. I've got probably 3 or 4 boxes of ammo I'll give you free if you post a video of how the wife reacts to you buying another gun!

It's just a barrel. I already have the trigger.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: .284 win
Post by: yorketransport on July 29, 2011, 11:36:30 PM: You should get it. There's nothing wrong with having a little variety. :tup: This barrel would put you one step closer to have a barrel in every cartridge with a .284 bore. Besides, how many guys have both a 308 and a 30-06? There's nothing wrong with a little over lap.

Andrew