Post by: pianoman9701 on August 03, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
"Thank you for your comments on the Department’s Recommended Wolf Conservation and Management Plan for Washington and accompanying Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS). Your message has been forwarded to each of the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission (Commission) members.
The Commission will receive detailed briefings on the plan during a series of special meetings, the first of which is scheduled for August 4, 2011, in Olympia. This agenda is available for viewing on the Internet at: <http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2011/08/agenda_aug0411.html>. TVW plans to broadcast this meeting live on the Internet (webcast). Once the meeting begins, the live webcast coverage will be viewable on TVW’s website: <http://www.tvw.org/media/liveevents.cfm?bhcp=1>. Check the TVW programming schedule <http://www.tvw.org/menuitems/tvschedule.cfm?bhcp=1> for later television broadcasts.
The Commission will hold additional special meetings to continue its discussions on the Recommended Wolf Conservation and Management Plan and hear public input. Those meetings are tentatively scheduled for:
· August 29 (Ellensburg)
· October 6 (Olympia)
· November 3 (Olympia)
The Commission may consider taking final action on the plan at its December 2-3, 2011, meeting in Olympia. For agenda revisions, meeting materials and additional information, visit the Commission’s web page at: <http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2011/index.html>. All Commission meetings, including the above, are open to the public and recorded by Commission staff. Audio recordings are available for listening to electronically on the Internet a week or so following each meeting. To access audio transcripts of past meetings, click on this link: <http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2011/index.html>, or copy and paste the html address into your web browser.
Sincerely,
Erin Gariépy, Administrative Assistant
Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Mail: 600 Capitol Way N, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
Phone: (360) 902-2267; Fax : (360) 902-2448
Email: commission@wdfw.wa.gov <mailto:commission@wdfw.wa.gov>"
Post by: dscubame on August 03, 2011, 01:49:01 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 03, 2011, 01:52:30 PM
Post by: Machias on August 03, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 03, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
I would imagine not planning anything on the east side is a good way to try and exclude the people this will hurt the most. It doesn't seem to make sense there aren't any meetings over there.
Post by: Kain on August 03, 2011, 02:12:21 PM
Anyone going? Can you ask a question for me, WHY is there no meetings on the eastside?
I can't because of work. I know a few guys have said they're going. Either Bearpaw or killbilly may be going, and jshunt has expressed tentative plans to attend.
I would imagine not planning anything on the east side is a good way to try and exclude the people this will hurt the most. It doesn't seem to make sense there aren't any meetings over there.
And they planned all the meetings during hunting season.
Post by: grundy53 on August 03, 2011, 02:18:06 PM
Anyone going? Can you ask a question for me, WHY is there no meetings on the eastside?
Cause that's where most of the wolves live. Duh. They don't want to here from the people who actually have to live with these Wolves.they are irrelevant.
Post by: CedarPants on August 03, 2011, 02:18:30 PM
Anyone going? Can you ask a question for me, WHY is there no meetings on the eastside?
All of the publications being released state there is a possible meeting scheduled in Ellensburg on August 29th. If/when they confirm that, I'll be heading over. You're more than welcome to join me if you'd like - the more the merrier
Post by: Machias on August 03, 2011, 02:21:59 PM
Anyone going? Can you ask a question for me, WHY is there no meetings on the eastside?
All of the publications being released state there is a possible meeting scheduled in Ellensburg on August 29th. If/when they confirm that, I'll be heading over. You're more than welcome to join me if you'd like - the more the merrier
If I'm back from Kentucky I might just tag along and help with the gas money. Thanks for the offer! :tup:
Post by: CedarPants on August 03, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
Anyone going? Can you ask a question for me, WHY is there no meetings on the eastside?
All of the publications being released state there is a possible meeting scheduled in Ellensburg on August 29th. If/when they confirm that, I'll be heading over. You're more than welcome to join me if you'd like - the more the merrier
If I'm back from Kentucky I might just tag along and help with the gas money. Thanks for the offer! :tup:
:tup: Anytime
Post by: bearpaw on August 03, 2011, 07:48:37 PM
Anyone going? Can you ask a question for me, WHY is there no meetings on the eastside?
All of the publications being released state there is a possible meeting scheduled in Ellensburg on August 29th. If/when they confirm that, I'll be heading over. You're more than welcome to join me if you'd like - the more the merrier
Yes that is correct.... We need people to go to that meeting, and to the meeting tommorrow. :tup:
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 03, 2011, 08:13:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 03, 2011, 08:16:03 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 03, 2011, 08:21:48 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 07:27:47 AM
i will be there in August for the meeting.
Today is the meeting in Olympia. Are you going? Please feel free to copy my letter and give voice to it while you're there. Thanks Coyote Hunter.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 04, 2011, 07:42:10 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
Post by: bearpaw on August 04, 2011, 10:06:46 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
The august meeting is important for wolves, we need people to attend that meeting.
Which August meeting, today's, or the one in Ellensburg on the 29th?
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 04, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 01:33:40 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 03:12:26 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 03:30:12 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 03:34:28 PM
I want to just vomit. What a meeting of incredibly ignorant flatlanders.
WHAT REALLY HAS ME WORRIED, IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY TAKE THOSE COMMENT SERIOUSLY :bash: :bash:
(WELL AT LEAST I HOPE THEY DON'T)
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW WOLF POPULATON WILL BENEFIT THE SALMON??? :bash:
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 03:42:34 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
I ALSO WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A WOLF HOWL IN WASHINGTON IN THE WILD.... THEN HEAR MY RIFLE BARK..
lol
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 03:52:14 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 04, 2011, 03:55:39 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 03:56:13 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 03:57:21 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 04, 2011, 04:39:07 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 04:44:31 PM
http://www.tvw.org/media/LiveTemplates/LivePlayer.cfm?evid=2011080028C&ccode=A&TYPE=Video&CFID=7336156&CFTOKEN=34282278&bhcp=1 (http://www.tvw.org/media/LiveTemplates/LivePlayer.cfm?evid=2011080028C&ccode=A&TYPE=Video&CFID=7336156&CFTOKEN=34282278&bhcp=1)
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 04:46:34 PM
Post by: mulehunter on August 04, 2011, 05:13:34 PM
its over now.. it wasIs there recorded to play Q. It wont let me press play. I would like to hear what's going on.
http://www.tvw.org/media/LiveTemplates/LivePlayer.cfm?evid=2011080028C&ccode=A&TYPE=Video&CFID=7336156&CFTOKEN=34282278&bhcp=1 (http://www.tvw.org/media/LiveTemplates/LivePlayer.cfm?evid=2011080028C&ccode=A&TYPE=Video&CFID=7336156&CFTOKEN=34282278&bhcp=1)
Mulehunter
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 05:18:49 PM
Post by: KillBilly on August 04, 2011, 05:26:47 PM
I want to just vomit. What a meeting of incredibly ignorant flatlanders.
You want to vomit... I was there and couldn't leave.
Post by: KillBilly on August 04, 2011, 05:28:15 PM
woohoo the guy in the green :tup:
who was the guy in green? did you get his name
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 05:32:16 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on August 04, 2011, 05:50:23 PM
. witch one was you?I want to just vomit. What a meeting of incredibly ignorant flatlanders.
You want to vomit... I was there and couldn't leave.
Post by: mulehunter on August 04, 2011, 06:00:30 PM
:bash: they dont have it in the archeives yet... I am trying to find a recorded version online so far no luck
Keep me posted. If Record works, My wife will interpreter for me about what people talking about.
Mulehunter.
Post by: bearpaw on August 04, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 04, 2011, 06:35:45 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 06:47:44 PM
Post by: grundy53 on August 04, 2011, 07:02:44 PM
Post by: Kain on August 04, 2011, 07:40:37 PM
Copy of the email I sent today.
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Dear Wildlife Commission Members,
I am writing this letter in regards to the wolf management plan that you are currently taking public comments on. I would like to take this time to remind you of the mandate of department and commission. In the mandate it states that the department and commission shall attempt to maximize recreational hunting opportunity for all citizens. I strongly suggest you review the plan and make sure that the final decision of this commission makes every effort to maximize hunter opportunity for wolves after the minimum sustainable number of wolves has been reached. This is crucial for keeping wolf population under control and for meeting the mandate given to you by the legislature of Washington state. This commission must approve a management plan for wolves that is based off sustainable populations of wolves and maximum recreational hunting. Any plan based on anything else, like say anti-hunting public opinion, will not meet the mandate of the department and commission. It has become increasingly clear that this department and commission have been making changes to hunting seasons for our wildlife, especially our predators, that are not based on biological, safety or management reasons and are not only failing to maximize recreational hunting opportunity but are actively reducing it.
I have included the mandate below for your reference.
Thanks you for you time.
Naithan Kain
RCW 77.04.012
Mandate of department and commission.
Wildlife, fish, and shellfish are the property of the state. The commission, director, and the department shall preserve, protect, perpetuate, and manage the wildlife and food fish, game fish, and shellfish in state waters and offshore waters.
The department shall conserve the wildlife and food fish, game fish, and shellfish resources in a manner that does not impair the resource. In a manner consistent with this goal, the department shall seek to maintain the economic well-being and stability of the fishing industry in the state. The department shall promote orderly fisheries and shall enhance and improve recreational and commercial fishing in this state.
The commission may authorize the taking of wildlife, food fish, game fish, and shellfish only at times or places, or in manners or quantities, as in the judgment of the commission does not impair the supply of these resources.
The commission shall attempt to maximize the public recreational game fishing and hunting opportunities of all citizens, including juvenile, disabled, and senior citizens.
Recognizing that the management of our state wildlife, food fish, game fish, and shellfish resources depends heavily on the assistance of volunteers, the department shall work cooperatively with volunteer groups and individuals to achieve the goals of this title to the greatest extent possible.
Nothing in this title shall be construed to infringe on the right of a private property owner to control the owner's private property.
[2000 c 107 § 2; 1983 1st ex.s. c 46 § 5; 1975 1st ex.s. c 183 § 1; 1949 c 112 § 3, part; Rem. Supp. 1949 § 5780-201, part. Formerly RCW 75.08.012, 43.25.020.]
Notes:
State policy regarding improvement of recreational salmon fishing: See note following RCW 77.65.150.
Post by: bearpaw on August 04, 2011, 07:45:23 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 04, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 04, 2011, 08:49:09 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 05, 2011, 06:12:47 AM
I want to just vomit. What a meeting of incredibly ignorant flatlanders.
You want to vomit... I was there and couldn't leave.
Thanks once again Al, for taking the time to go. I should've been there, but I couldn't.
Post by: KillBilly on August 05, 2011, 07:36:18 AM
Post by: denali on August 05, 2011, 08:13:15 AM
Post by: Machias on August 05, 2011, 08:14:21 AM
In all honesty, it was a long day but a real eye opener to say the least. I was pleased that the commission found so many holes in the report and ask for clarification on many many items. The team walked away with enough action items to fill a week of research and providing answers. One of the things that got my attention as well as it did the commission was that they stated that washington had as much suitable habitat as Oregon, Idaho and Montana....the team argued that every model they applied gave the same results. I don't think anyone there believed that. It will be interesting to see there answers at the August 29th meeting.
:tup: Thanks for going and thanks for the report back!!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 06, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 06, 2011, 09:44:57 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 06, 2011, 09:48:45 PM
finally the recording is up! for those of you that missed it here is the link to watch the wolf commite meeting
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 06, 2011, 09:55:51 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 06, 2011, 10:40:56 PM