Post by: pat riotic on August 05, 2011, 03:14:29 PM
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Post by: h20hunter on August 05, 2011, 03:16:56 PM
Post by: Jason on August 05, 2011, 03:35:28 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 05, 2011, 03:38:24 PM
Post by: GoldTip on August 05, 2011, 03:39:38 PM
Post by: Hunterman on August 05, 2011, 03:40:11 PM
Oh,,I voted for Prius just so it didn't feel lonely :chuckle: :chuckle:
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: pat riotic on August 05, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
I would think it all depends on the year..The older Fords, say up to 1974, were better trucks. The newer trucks I'd have to say Toyota.just double checkin, :tree1:, haha :chuckle: :chuckle:
Oh,,I voted for Prius just so it didn't feel lonely :chuckle: :chuckle:
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Hunterman on August 05, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: FC on August 05, 2011, 04:10:25 PM
Post by: total_intent2kill on August 05, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
Post by: YellowDog on August 05, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
Small pick ups - Toyota no question about it.
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on August 05, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
Joe
Post by: Sneaky on August 05, 2011, 05:25:18 PM
towing - ford...if you can't have a chevy or a dodge cummins :chuckle:
Post by: doyourtime89 on August 05, 2011, 05:32:28 PM
Post by: DBZona on August 05, 2011, 05:47:33 PM
Interesting poll. .my husband drives a Ford and I (soon I hope) going to be getting a Yota. . . So Both?
Ummm...Does he know this yet? :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: gotshot on August 05, 2011, 05:59:08 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 05, 2011, 06:12:40 PM
Damn, Must's had a rock in my tire. Prius? Spit'm out my wheel well!
How 'earth frendly' is the disposal of rechargable batteries?
-Steve
Post by: throttlejocky20 on August 05, 2011, 06:13:19 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on August 05, 2011, 06:13:32 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on August 05, 2011, 06:14:35 PM
Post by: flinger on August 05, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Post by: wsucowboy on August 05, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
Show me a yota that can tow 15,000lbs safely and I'll buy it. Until then I will stick to my F-350.X2! I don't know what I'm more appalled at, the fact that somebody would ask this question or that somebody would actually vote for the Toyota's
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 05, 2011, 06:20:15 PM
Show me a yota that can tow 15,000lbs safely and I'll buy it. Until then I will stick to my F-350.
Towed 23,000 pounds with my PSD and felt very safe on the highway. I'd be white knucked, shakin in my boots doing that with a scrawny little yota. (even WITH the force (farce) with us)
-Steve
Post by: total_intent2kill on August 05, 2011, 06:23:11 PM
Interesting poll. .my husband drives a Ford and I (soon I hope) going to be getting a Yota. . . So Both?
Ummm...Does he know this yet? :dunno: :chuckle:
Umm. . . yes he does actually :IBCOOL:
Post by: Bean Counter on August 06, 2011, 04:02:17 AM
whats wrong with a prius :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yike: Really?
Post by: Bean Counter on August 06, 2011, 04:03:12 AM
Ford 100% when compared to the other 'domestics.' If nothing else, they have their dignity and no Obama money in their pocket.
Post by: MADMAX on August 06, 2011, 04:30:47 AM
Post by: buglebuster on August 06, 2011, 06:22:53 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 06, 2011, 06:46:19 AM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 06, 2011, 12:36:44 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on August 06, 2011, 12:59:18 PM
Post by: pat riotic on August 08, 2011, 08:05:38 PM
I agree with supporting the Ford motor company for giving Obama the finger, but realise that allot of the Toyotas are built right here in the USA by American worker as well. I see a use for both I love Toyotas for their off road capabilities, and their dependability. Fords on the other hand win hands down in the workhorse category.:tup:
Post by: alecvg on August 08, 2011, 08:21:54 PM
Post by: wsmnut on August 08, 2011, 08:48:28 PM
wsmnut
Post by: R9923 on August 08, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Post by: alanger on August 08, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
Post by: coriantonk on August 09, 2011, 10:54:16 AM
Post by: twistiron on August 09, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 09, 2011, 05:10:37 PM
D: None of the above.
I second! But if it was walk home 1000 miles away or pick one of the above? I'd take the Ford.
Post by: Bigtine96 on August 09, 2011, 05:48:43 PM
Post by: Wa hunter on August 09, 2011, 06:09:59 PM
I agree with supporting the Ford motor company for giving Obama the finger, but realise that allot of the Toyotas are built right here in the USA by American worker as well. I see a use for both I love Toyotas for their off road capabilities, and their dependability. Fords on the other hand win hands down in the workhorse category.:tup:
Agree, I have 600k on my last 4 toyotas without any major problems.
Post by: Sportfury on August 09, 2011, 06:41:47 PM
Also for those folks who think the big three make their vehicles here in America you might want to check again. Maybe some of them are made here, but I am willing to bet a lot more are made north and south of us. All the parts of my truck might not have been built here, but it sure as heck was assembled by American blood and sweat.
Post by: C-Money on August 10, 2011, 03:27:36 PM
Post by: pat riotic on August 10, 2011, 08:21:39 PM
How is this even a POLL!!! If you voted for anything other than ford, please pack up your *censored* and board the next plane for the land of the yellow-man. Yeah Fords might not be made or manufactured in the US but the company is still US owned. Poll closed:chuckle:x100,poll closed!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on August 11, 2011, 06:36:25 AM
But I have seen Toyotas behind a Ford. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: jackmaster on August 11, 2011, 07:00:06 AM
Post by: Miles on August 15, 2011, 04:07:56 AM
D: None of the above.
I second! But if it was walk home 1000 miles away or pick one of the above? I'd take the Ford.
I'd rather walk. :chuckle:
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on August 15, 2011, 05:42:00 AM
Post by: pat riotic on August 15, 2011, 09:43:50 AM
Post by: NWBREW on August 15, 2011, 09:48:19 AM
Post by: pat riotic on August 15, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
i CAN'T VOTE......I own a full size Ford 4x4 AND a little Toyota 4x4. Both have never let me down and both have over 200K on them.\
nice! guess u gotta vote for prius :chuckle:
Post by: NWBREW on August 15, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Post by: pat riotic on August 15, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
Post by: shadowless_nite on August 15, 2011, 10:38:47 AM
There is no denying toyotas are definitely great off road rigs even out of the box. There is nothing like cruising the hills in a toyota pick up and not having to fill up before heading home at the end of the day. Their resale value also far surpasses that of any ford or gm rig. there is a reason why tacomas hold their value so well and ask any tacoma owner and they will tell you why.
As for the "tree hugger" prius. It is extremely hard for anyone to not hate filling up at the pump. I rented a prius from work to drive to monroe from vancouver one time when gas was approaching the $4.50 mark a few years back. It got me over 400 mile on less than 10 gallons and only cost me $40 to fill with premium. Let me know when their is a american car that has been capable of this for almost the passed decade??? Regardless of being marked as a tree hugger car, its purpose is a daily econo commuter and the battery cell it gets a bad rap for gets disposed of properly and doesnt even compare to the amount of batteries we throw away in the garbage or raw pollutants that some redneck hill billy's poorly running diesel spits out into the air directly harming the ozone right above you or as you drive right behind it.
So in to sum it up toyota has it in all markets ....economic value, resale, purchase price, off road ability BUT they sure as hell LACK in the TOWING/ PULLING power. And that is why I have a DODGE truck! Now if only they would bring their diesels from overseas/ canada .... one day :'(
Post by: sebek556 on August 15, 2011, 10:56:36 AM
Post by: huntnnw on August 16, 2011, 12:33:40 AM
Post by: pat riotic on August 16, 2011, 10:14:16 AM
ill take a older 4 banger toyota anyday over any ford... gas mileage :chuckle: oh and reliablityANY ford? no way! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: colockumelk on September 02, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
How is this even a POLL!!! If you voted for anything other than ford, please pack up your *censored* and board the next plane for the land of the yellow-man. Yeah Fords might not be made or manufactured in the US but the company is still US owned. Poll closed
Let's see in the past ten years how many people has Ford laid off? How many jobs has Toyota created in the US?
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 02, 2011, 03:45:56 PM
and there is my problem BRING FROM OVERSEAS.. :dunno: and leave my big diesel outta this, bio fuel at 1.50 a gallon it smokes more but I can afford to drive it then :chuckle:
What type of bio-fuel are you referring to? CNG, flex, corn...
Post by: gaddy on September 02, 2011, 04:08:22 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 05, 2011, 05:24:30 PM
WOW, i have to go with clockum on this one. one thing i would like to see from all mfg's is going back to a simpler model. enough with all the computer operated crap, heated seats, memory for different drivers, ect.. it goes on & on. the trucks i like the most are the simple ones, less costly to mfg ,operate & have less maintenance problems. guess im old school but if toyota (or any of the others) would come out with a model like my 91 toy basic model i might buy one. PS my other truck is a 76 GMC ive had since 82. ( 3 mo's, 2 trans, 1 transfer case) sorry ford dudes. especially in these times i think all vehicles could be a little simpler & more fuel efficient. i dont need all that extra crap & i think sales would go up if they made a more basic model.
Amen to that. That's why I like driving my '90 Bronco II better than my '07 GMC Canyon. Simpler, more fun, and WAY better ground clearance.
Post by: dscubame on September 05, 2011, 05:28:58 PM
Post by: KillBilly on September 05, 2011, 05:53:41 PM
Saw so many Ford's broken down on the highway coming back from the coast to Spokane today.
:dunno:Weird I sa w nothing but toyotas broke down up and down Hwy 101 all weekend... :dunno:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 05, 2011, 05:58:16 PM
Saw so many Ford's broken down on the highway coming back from the coast to Spokane today.
:dunno:Weird I sa w nothing but toyotas broke down up and down Hwy 101 all weekend... :dunno:
Hmmm...all I saw on the side of the highway this weekend was a Nissan Altima--with a WSP car behind it. Surely not the car's fault! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: dscubame on September 05, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
Saw so many Ford's broken down on the highway coming back from the coast to Spokane today.
:dunno:Weird I sa w nothing but toyotas broke down up and down Hwy 101 all weekend... :dunno:
I suppose that is why I drive a Chevy. :chuckle:
Post by: Kola16 on September 05, 2011, 06:39:38 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 05, 2011, 08:22:27 PM
Post by: sharpeshooter on September 05, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
Post by: Kola16 on September 05, 2011, 09:13:27 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 06, 2011, 05:43:46 AM
Post by: Kola16 on September 06, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
I beg to differ on "fastest". When was the last time you seen a Toyota click off anything under 18 seconds in the 1/4? My F-350 Dually Diesel @ 8,200lbs runs it in 16.8.
:dunno: Just quoting him. I don't even know if he is right :chuckle:
Post by: jackmaster on September 06, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
Post by: singleshot12 on September 06, 2011, 12:08:45 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on September 06, 2011, 12:12:42 PM
i am the farthest from a truck expert but my toyota tundra has great pulling power and i have had a few guys try to race me with their chevy duramax and a new ford f250 and sorry to say but it wasnt even close, my truck hooks up and moves the hell out, and i get 18 miles per gallon if i keep my foot outta it
V8, plenty of pulling power.. I heard 22 miles per gal. with a strong tail wind :chuckle:
Post by: Kola16 on September 06, 2011, 12:55:46 PM
i am the farthest from a truck expert but my toyota tundra has great pulling power and i have had a few guys try to race me with their chevy duramax and a new ford f250 and sorry to say but it wasnt even close, my truck hooks up and moves the hell out, and i get 18 miles per gallon if i keep my foot outta it
V8, plenty of pulling power.. I heard 22 miles per gal. with a strong tail wind :chuckle:
You can just let the wind take those toys, and not even turn on the engine because they can't pull stuff worth S@#T :chuckle: Isn't that the point of a truck :chuckle:
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 06, 2011, 01:22:02 PM
Post by: jackmaster on September 06, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
Post by: Skillet on September 06, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
You can just let the wind take those toys, and not even turn on the engine because they can't pull stuff worth S@#T :chuckle: Isn't that the point of a truck :chuckle:
No way, man. It's for lifting up so high you can't use the bed anymore without slipping a disk, and it's for sticking every piece of crap chrome thing imaginable onto. Oh, and also hanging TruckNutz on to show how tough it is. How can you see the TruckNutz if you're pulling a trailer? Sheesh...
Post by: Kola16 on September 06, 2011, 02:18:45 PM
You can just let the wind take those toys, and not even turn on the engine because they can't pull stuff worth S@#T :chuckle: Isn't that the point of a truck :chuckle:
No way, man. It's for lifting up so high you can't use the bed anymore without slipping a disk, and it's for sticking every piece of crap chrome thing imaginable onto. Oh, and also hanging TruckNutz on to show how tough it is. How can you see the TruckNutz if you're pulling a trailer? Sheesh...
:chuckle: That is all a toy is good for, if you call that good :chuckle:
Post by: FC on September 06, 2011, 02:22:33 PM
@jeepasaurasrex, the only reason so many Fords are used as service vehicles is that they are the cheapest.
Post by: Kola16 on September 06, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
Some pretty funny arguments in here, for all out pulling the Ford would be my last choice, dodge or Chevy would be first and second choices. For running around in the mountains I'll take my Toyota tacoma over any of them, 15+mpg average in 4wd and seemingly climbs anything with enough space for it to fit. For that matter I still average 19mpg pulling my boat with it.
@jeepasaurasrex, the only reason so many Fords are used as service vehicles is that they are the cheapest.
That is why in all of the other companies commercials (like toyota :chuckle: ), they compare themselves to ford right :chuckle:
Post by: h20hunter on September 06, 2011, 02:43:28 PM
Post by: FC on September 06, 2011, 02:46:01 PM
Some pretty funny arguments in here, for all out pulling the Ford would be my last choice, dodge or Chevy would be first and second choices. For running around in the mountains I'll take my Toyota tacoma over any of them, 15+mpg average in 4wd and seemingly climbs anything with enough space for it to fit. For that matter I still average 19mpg pulling my boat with it.
@jeepasaurasrex, the only reason so many Fords are used as service vehicles is that they are the cheapest.
That is why in all of the other companies commercials (like toyota :chuckle: ), they compare themselves to ford right :chuckle:
Ford is the top seller due to their cheap price, that is just called smart marketing! Believe what you like but for some strange reason more mechanics drive chevys and toyotas than anything else (honda is a close runner up), myself included. Have a look at resale value on toyota vs ford if you really want to find out how good they are. How many 300k+ toyotas are around? TONS! How many 300k+ fords are around? "crickets"
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 06, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: FC on September 06, 2011, 03:16:42 PM
Ok, who with a Toyota wants to hook bumper to bumper with me via log chain? I will take back everything I ever said about toys if you win.
:chuckle:
How about I pick the trail and you follow me up it... :chuckle:
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on September 06, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
Post by: Skillet on September 06, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
You can just let the wind take those toys, and not even turn on the engine because they can't pull stuff worth S@#T :chuckle: Isn't that the point of a truck :chuckle:
No way, man. It's for lifting up so high you can't use the bed anymore without slipping a disk, and it's for sticking every piece of crap chrome thing imaginable onto. Oh, and also hanging TruckNutz on to show how tough it is. How can you see the TruckNutz if you're pulling a trailer? Sheesh...
:chuckle: That is all a toy is good for, if you call that good :chuckle:
Oh, I've seen a bunch of that on Fords, too...
Full disclosure - I have a bone-stock F250 4x4 w/6.0 diesel and love it. Great mileage, great pulling power (won't win races, but I guarantee it gets there) and contrary to popular opinion, very reliable.
Post by: FC on September 06, 2011, 03:39:28 PM
Ok, I'll drive my Jeep. :chuckle: :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: