Post by: mallard79 on August 07, 2011, 06:12:27 PM
Looking at going with a stainless steel Savage with this rifle but am open to opinions on that as well.
Lets hear it.
Post by: 3nails on August 07, 2011, 06:18:52 PM
Tikka T3 .300 wsm for me! :whoo:
Post by: coyotewallace on August 07, 2011, 06:31:49 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 07, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
Post by: Huntbear on August 07, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
That said, there is so many what caliber threads on here, do some searching... everyone has a favorite, and reasons why... it is worse than the Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge threads.... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: rock on August 07, 2011, 07:01:43 PM
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I hope you get my point...
Post by: SkookumJeff on August 07, 2011, 07:02:10 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 07, 2011, 09:06:35 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 07, 2011, 09:07:48 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 07, 2011, 09:17:09 PM
The 338 Win Mag that was already suggested wouldn't be a bad choice either.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 07, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
Post by: marty on August 07, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 07, 2011, 09:31:59 PM
My Savage Model 10 LE 308. Shoots 877 yards with hunting ammo. I like it !!!!! :chuckle:
Point it at a 45deg angle and it will shoot farther then that LOL just because something shoots far doesn't mean anything. With the low energy at that range from a 308 I would never shoot a bear with at round at even close to that far.
Post by: FALFire on August 07, 2011, 09:32:42 PM
I've heard that the 17 HMR is the one to beat, 1/2" groups at 1000 yards and can easily take down a charging Rhino at over 500 yards with one shot! Plus it doubles for home protection way better than any 12 gauge could even dream of.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 07, 2011, 09:34:51 PM
My Savage Model 10 LE 308. Shoots 877 yards with hunting ammo. I like it !!!!! :chuckle:
Point it at a 45deg angle and it will shoot farther then that LOL just because something shoots far doesn't mean anything. With the low energy at that range from a 308 I would never shoot a bear with at round at even close to that far.
Who said I was shooting at a bear ? Read my post............
Post by: Huntbear on August 07, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
I don't know about all those choices there guys.
I've heard that the 17 HMR is the one to beat, 1/2" groups at 1000 yards and can easily take down a charging Rhino at over 500 yards with one shot! Plus it doubles for home protection way better than any 12 gauge could even dream of.
Almost equal to the .22 LR :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Bofire on August 07, 2011, 09:38:01 PM
Carl
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 07, 2011, 09:41:09 PM
My Savage Model 10 LE 308. Shoots 877 yards with hunting ammo. I like it !!!!! :chuckle:
Point it at a 45deg angle and it will shoot farther then that LOL just because something shoots far doesn't mean anything. With the low energy at that range from a 308 I would never shoot a bear with at round at even close to that far.
Who said I was shooting at a bear ? Read my post............
How about you read the original post? He is looking for mainly a bear gun... what does your 308 and how far you can shoot it have to do with killing a bear and being a good cal for him to hunt bear with.
Post by: addicted on August 07, 2011, 09:48:53 PM
How much do you want to pay for ammo?
How much do you want to pay for the gun?
Long range? what is that?
Do you reload?
Are you going to alaska?
Post by: manfromspam on August 07, 2011, 11:12:27 PM
Post by: bankwalker on August 08, 2011, 12:43:11 AM
or the 338-378 shooting 225gr barnes tsx at 3100fps
idk something about the weatherby always gets me.
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 12:45:20 AM
Depending on your definition of long range,
will you be a turret twister/BDC or are we looking for MPBR?
How do you handle recoil?
How heavy do you like your rifle to be?
Post by: alwinearcher on August 08, 2011, 12:57:29 AM
300 grn bullets at 2900 fps! :drool:
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 02:21:48 AM
I dont think the .338 edge can be beat! :twocents:
300 grn bullets at 2900 fps! :drool:
it's already beat if he doesnt want to reload. ;)
Post by: Curly on August 08, 2011, 03:38:24 AM
If you're talking over 500 yards then the Edge would be in order..........or maybe like Bobcat said, and go with an Ultra Mag. :twocents:
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 04:08:48 AM
7mmRUGER
6.5x284NORMA
300wussy
7-30waters........ ok, maybe not the waters.
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 04:17:06 AM
25rem
257wmag
50BMG
25-06AI
45-110...... now there's a man's caliber.
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 04:20:17 AM
338Federal
325WSM
7mmmag
or you could be squirrely and get a 6.5x55
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 04:25:01 AM
7 STW
284 win
8mm REM MAG
Need more info. :dunno:
whatever you go with, your probably on a good track looking at the savage.
Post by: Gutpile on August 08, 2011, 04:57:44 AM
Just get a 338 Lapua. Thread closed...........
:yeah:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 08, 2011, 06:05:47 AM
My Savage Model 10 LE 308. Shoots 877 yards with hunting ammo. I like it !!!!! :chuckle:
Point it at a 45deg angle and it will shoot farther then that LOL just because something shoots far doesn't mean anything. With the low energy at that range from a 308 I would never shoot a bear with at round at even close to that far.
Who said I was shooting at a bear ? Read my post............
How about you read the original post? He is looking for mainly a bear gun... what does your 308 and how far you can shoot it have to do with killing a bear and being a good cal for him to hunt bear with.
How about you grow up.......... I did reread it, It also states an " long range all around shooting gun"!.
Post by: high country on August 08, 2011, 06:13:04 AM
I love the guys that are sure a .308 will not kill a bear at 500yds....but my 30,000 ultra maxi plows em'. Truth be told, that .308 is a dang good all around choice, especially with todays bullets.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 08, 2011, 06:16:59 AM
I always love horsepower threads. Start with the basics. Budget, brand, weight, distance of shot, handload or not,recoil tolerance and that should narrow the field.
I love the guys that are sure a .308 will not kill a bear at 500yds....but my 30,000 ultra maxi plows em'. Truth be told, that .308 is a dang good all around choice, especially with todays bullets.
I knew somebody liked those 308's. :tup:
Post by: rasbo on August 08, 2011, 06:34:20 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 08, 2011, 06:55:42 AM
Post by: C-Money on August 08, 2011, 06:57:37 AM
Post by: high country on August 08, 2011, 07:06:10 AM
I always love horsepower threads. Start with the basics. Budget, brand, weight, distance of shot, handload or not,recoil tolerance and that should narrow the field.
I love the guys that are sure a .308 will not kill a bear at 500yds....but my 30,000 ultra maxi plows em'. Truth be told, that .308 is a dang good all around choice, especially with todays bullets.
I knew somebody liked those 308's. :tup:
the headstamp is the least of my concern. I was an ultra mag guy for a long time, I found smaller rounds worked just as well. dead is dead, there is no "more dead" and those that "knocked it down like the hammer of thor" I believe are saying the same as my "bang flop".
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 08, 2011, 07:16:30 AM
I always love horsepower threads. Start with the basics. Budget, brand, weight, distance of shot, handload or not,recoil tolerance and that should narrow the field.
I love the guys that are sure a .308 will not kill a bear at 500yds....but my 30,000 ultra maxi plows em'. Truth be told, that .308 is a dang good all around choice, especially with todays bullets.
I knew somebody liked those 308's. :tup:
the headstamp is the least of my concern. I was an ultra mag guy for a long time, I found smaller rounds worked just as well. dead is dead, there is no "more dead" and those that "knocked it down like the hammer of thor" I believe are saying the same as my "bang flop".
I had a 300RUM and got rid of it.....ouch !! I personally use a 300 win mag T/C Encore.
Post by: Hyde on August 08, 2011, 07:35:20 AM
Kelly Johnson (Lockheed fame) once said that the perfect airplane is a crop duster. This from the guy who designed the SR-71.
Post by: demontang on August 08, 2011, 07:39:28 AM
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 08:56:43 AM
I always love horsepower threads. Start with the basics. Budget, brand, weight, distance of shot, handload or not,recoil tolerance and that should narrow the field.
THANK YOU!!
Post by: yorketransport on August 08, 2011, 05:36:43 PM
Andrew
Post by: wsucowboy on August 08, 2011, 06:00:49 PM
Post by: addicted on August 08, 2011, 09:27:27 PM
Can't go wrong with a .338 :twocents:
you can if he flinches from the recoil ;)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 08, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
My Savage Model 10 LE 308. Shoots 877 yards with hunting ammo. I like it !!!!! :chuckle:
Point it at a 45deg angle and it will shoot farther then that LOL just because something shoots far doesn't mean anything. With the low energy at that range from a 308 I would never shoot a bear with at round at even close to that far.
Who said I was shooting at a bear ? Read my post............
How about you read the original post? He is looking for mainly a bear gun... what does your 308 and how far you can shoot it have to do with killing a bear and being a good cal for him to hunt bear with.
How about you grow up.......... I did reread it, It also states an " long range all around shooting gun.
Lol to funny. I think your ideas get a little out of wack sometimes. But they are your ideas for a reason. If you think a 308 is a good long range all around gun that's just fine lol
Post by: mallard79 on August 08, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 08, 2011, 10:37:56 PM
Post by: manfromspam on August 08, 2011, 10:40:57 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 08, 2011, 10:46:50 PM
Post by: addicted on August 09, 2011, 02:24:52 AM
both will kill game way out there and are suitable for big bears in AK.
Since you reload you may like the 338EDGE as an option as well.
how about a 338-06. 1300ftlbs and 1700 fps at 700 yards should do the trick. lol.
you could also look into the .325WSM
Post by: high country on August 09, 2011, 05:55:57 AM
The 300 will not increase recoil too much in like rifles, the 338 is going to for sure. You are looking at 72ish grains of powder to burn, so it will let you know.
Long story short, both solid choices, less weight available to the wsm, more horsepower in the winnie.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 09, 2011, 07:15:10 AM
Post by: demontang on August 09, 2011, 09:55:21 PM
Post by: SkookumJeff on August 11, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Skook
Post by: mallard79 on August 11, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
Post by: high country on August 12, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
as above, the 35 whelen is a great gun. I am looking for a nice cdl in 35w.
Post by: MADMAX on August 12, 2011, 09:32:08 AM
May never use my 7mm rem mag again.
Post by: Curly on August 12, 2011, 09:51:36 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246285974 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246285974)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246431909 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246431909)
Here is a nice 338-06 Improved for sale: Link (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=245763372)
Here is a nice Weatherby Ultra Lightweight, but you probably would wish the guy left the scope off.......Link (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246283336)
Out of those 3 cartridges though, I think I'd lean toward the 338WM since you mentioned long range.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 12, 2011, 12:14:16 PM
I sure like the .257 Weatherby mag now.
May never use my 7mm rem mag again.
I just bought a 257 Mag Vanguard for wolf hunting. Your thoughts please. It's not put together, scope and Dednutz mount yet. Killed anything with it ?
Post by: high country on August 12, 2011, 12:51:06 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 12, 2011, 02:02:05 PM
I sure like the .257 Weatherby mag now.
May never use my 7mm rem mag again.
I just bought a 257 Mag Vanguard for wolf hunting. Your thoughts please. It's not put together, scope and Dednutz mount yet. Killed anything with it ?
NO kills yet but punching paper its awesome and if you read up on it, drops em fast.
Its a stainless mark V with 26" barrel and I shoot 120s out of it @ 74 bucks a box.
I will use first time in WY for antelope unless I see a bear or yote before archery elk season.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 12, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
I sure like the .257 Weatherby mag now.
May never use my 7mm rem mag again.
I just bought a 257 Mag Vanguard for wolf hunting. Your thoughts please. It's not put together, scope and Dednutz mount yet. Killed anything with it ?
NO kills yet but punching paper its awesome and if you read up on it, drops em fast.
Its a stainless mark V with 26" barrel and I shoot 120s out of it @ 74 bucks a box.
I will use first time in WY for antelope unless I see a bear or yote before archery elk season.
Cool beans... I bought Weatherby 110grn soft points for mine. 2 boxes from www.grafs.com (http://www.grafs.com) for $ 76 to the door. Those buggers are spendy. A friend shot a 5' saw blade @ 877 yards with his. I was impressed at the distance, but not for killing an animal. I don't know what grain would be the best, so keep me posted on your adventures with it. I can't wait to shoot it...
Post by: MADMAX on August 13, 2011, 06:49:01 AM
I hope to have some pics to post when I get back from WY
3tags to fill
doe and buck antelope and buck deer
Post by: pat riotic on August 13, 2011, 07:08:49 AM
:) 30/06 is hard to beat.tikka t3 lite 30-06 blue federal ammo!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:
Carl
Post by: longrangekiller on August 18, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Post by: high country on August 18, 2011, 08:31:13 PM
Post by: longrangekiller on August 18, 2011, 08:49:31 PM
What if it is 1227 yards?
then im sure u can hit it but my range finder usually dont go that far hahaha