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Title: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 08, 2011, 08:12:09 PM: berger released a 230 grain hybrid bullet in.308 caliber! everywhere i have looked is out of stock, but i will keep looking and probably try them after hunting season sometime. anyone else heard of or tried these?
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 08, 2011, 10:39:56 PM: Haven't heard of it. I have heard about the 300g 338cal. I know they made some but the first batch didn't work great. Can't wait to see them when they come out.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: elkslayer069 on August 08, 2011, 11:12:32 PM: :yeah:
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 09, 2011, 07:11:10 AM: They are already out. Both new bullets. Just cmant get my.hands.on any of the 230s yet.... all sold out. Gen 2 (newer one) work very well.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: str8meat on August 09, 2011, 11:31:15 AM: look at matrix bullets. they have a 210 gr. 30 cal. with a .752 bc. i have them and they are awesome. load is 77.5 h 1000. outta my mode 70 winchester. 14 moa at 825 yrads. havent chron'd yet but they sure shoot nice. :tup: might wanna look at them
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 09, 2011, 05:30:06 PM: those matrix bullets do look very interesting. have you been shooting them long?
how do they perform on game?
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: str8meat on August 09, 2011, 08:01:55 PM: i have spent maybe 15 rounds, accuracy is great.did a newspaper test. compressed newspaper at 100 yards similar results to a berger. it looked just like the 168 gr. 7mm we took outta my buddys bull. penetration was 11" those free papers are good for something. i love em :tup:
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: MDGrand on August 10, 2011, 08:58:53 AM: Just looked at the web site...

http://matrixballistics.com/.308-Caliber-rifle-bullets.html#matrixballisticsVLD (http://matrixballistics.com/.308-Caliber-rifle-bullets.html#matrixballisticsVLD)

They seem to be identical to the Berger.

Wondering if their VLD 210 can be used hunting? That is a CRAZY BC for the bullet.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: rbros on August 10, 2011, 11:39:31 AM: The matrix bullet's BC's look good on paper, but even they will tell you they are computer generated BC's and not real world. In testing the 6mm, 7mm, and 30 cal versions, they are almost identical to the Bergers.

I have a few hundred of the new 230 Bergers to test out as well as the 338's. So far this group of 338's are way better than the first gen ones. Holding up at the higher velocities and are extremely accurate. BC is close to .8 at the 2950 velocity. Have to see how they perform on critters this fall.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 10, 2011, 03:46:09 PM: Quote from: rbros on August 10, 2011, 11:39:31 AM
The matrix bullet's BC's look good on paper, but even they will tell you they are computer generated BC's and not real world. In testing the 6mm, 7mm, and 30 cal versions, they are almost identical to the Bergers.

I have a few hundred of the new 230 Bergers to test out as well as the 338's. So far this group of 338's are way better than the first gen ones. Holding up at the higher velocities and are extremely accurate. BC is close to .8 at the 2950 velocity. Have to see how they perform on critters this fall.

That's great I am thinking of trying the gen 2 .338's in my 340wby.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 10, 2011, 09:16:40 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on August 10, 2011, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: rbros on August 10, 2011, 11:39:31 AM
The matrix bullet's BC's look good on paper, but even they will tell you they are computer generated BC's and not real world. In testing the 6mm, 7mm, and 30 cal versions, they are almost identical to the Bergers.

I have a few hundred of the new 230 Bergers to test out as well as the 338's. So far this group of 338's are way better than the first gen ones. Holding up at the higher velocities and are extremely accurate. BC is close to .8 at the 2950 velocity. Have to see how they perform on critters this fall.

That's great I am thinking of trying the gen 2 .338's in my 340wby.

my cousin has some on order for his 338-378. should make for a serious stomper.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: MDGrand on August 11, 2011, 08:39:28 AM: It is not considered a hunting bullet though, right?
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: rbros on August 11, 2011, 04:54:11 PM: They have a little thinner jacket than the 300gr SMK's, so I am sure it will work fine. The Sierra's do a nice job, so I am sure these will work out as well. I am going to try to do some expansion tests when I get builds caught up.
Title: Re: berger bullets .308 230 grain
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 11, 2011, 07:08:52 PM: Heck yeah they should smack some critters.