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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Moose Master on August 10, 2011, 12:18:55 PM

Title: Eye guards
Post by: Moose Master on August 10, 2011, 12:18:55 PM: Some confusion with the regs on page 39 of the game pamphlet. In the spike bull restrictions. If the eye guard is within in the 4" zone of the attachment to the skull is it legal? I have ask three different wardens and have gotten three different answers. So I known that there are some great minds out there and was wandering what the opinions were about this. A bull was passed up over this issue and its still lingering in my mind. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: NRA4LIFE on August 10, 2011, 12:36:13 PM: Perfectly legal.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Buckmark on August 10, 2011, 12:55:29 PM: Quote from: NRA4LIFE on August 10, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
Perfectly legal.
Yep, but as the OP stated he has asked 3 different wardens and got 3 different answers, remember it is up to "the descretion" of the warden who checks you and writes the citations...
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: NRA4LIFE on August 10, 2011, 01:02:35 PM: It is stated pretty clear in the regs IMO. There was a picture on this site awhile back of a legal spike that had a spike on one side and a spike on the other side with 6 small legal length eye guards within the 4" zone. Perfectly legal.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: bobcat on August 10, 2011, 01:18:39 PM: Just wondering, how does a person accurately gauge what 4 inches is on an elk at say, 300 yards? :dunno:
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Skillet on August 10, 2011, 01:27:27 PM: As Grandpa would have whispered back to me if I asked him if I thought it was a shooter-

"If you pulls your trigger, you takes your chances."

The game laws in this state are getting a little ridiculous with the complextity... almost need a lawyer on retainer anymore.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: WSU on August 10, 2011, 02:16:16 PM: The reg book seems clear to me. No antler point more that 4 inches up. Also, it ain't totally up to the warden's discretion. They can ticket you, but that doesn't mean it will stick if challenged.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Skillet on August 10, 2011, 02:38:12 PM: Quote from: WSU on August 10, 2011, 02:16:16 PM
The reg book seems clear to me. No antler point more that 4 inches up. Also, it ain't totally up to the warden's discretion. They can ticket you, but that doesn't mean it will stick if challenged.

Agreed, the regs are clear on that particular point - but to Bobcat's point, can I be confident enough to pull the trigger to tell the difference between 3-3/4" and 4-1/4" at 300 yards?
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: WSU on August 10, 2011, 02:50:48 PM: I wouldn't be. Just like I'm hesitant to shoot a 3 point buck with a 1 inch third point. I've passed many a deer for that exact reason.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Moose Master on August 11, 2011, 01:25:49 PM: Thanks for the comments. All was great input and much appreciated.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Houndhunter on August 11, 2011, 01:33:20 PM: kinda off topic, but i got a frivolous ticket out "hunting" and i paid it off because they told me i was technically hunting. well after quite a bit of research and talking with the dept i found that i was not in the wrong but to late to fight a paid off ticket.

know your rights and regulations because sometimes the gamies don't
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Elkrunner on August 11, 2011, 02:20:55 PM: Quote from: bobcat on August 10, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
Just wondering, how does a person accurately gauge what 4 inches is on an elk at say, 300 yards? :dunno:
I was thinking the same thing. What if you shoot and it ends up being 4.5 inches? I would say pass on it, because its not worth the headache. Or you can just do what I did and start archery hunting. 300 yards is just barely out of my range.
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: Miles on September 14, 2011, 01:32:37 AM: Quote from: bobcat on August 10, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
Just wondering, how does a person accurately gauge what 4 inches is on an elk at say, 300 yards? :dunno:

If you can't then you don't shoot. Seems pretty simple to me. :dunno:
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: rtspring on September 14, 2011, 05:39:53 AM: If there is any doubt as to legal or not , Let the animal walk. Plain and simple.......

RTSPRING
Title: Re: Eye guards
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2011, 08:13:14 AM: Quote
If you can't then you don't shoot. Seems pretty simple to me. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/dontknow.gif)

Well, yes Miles, that's obvious. Ever heard of a rhetorical question? I guess I was trying to point out how I dislike the "true spike" rule. Spike only is bad enough, but then to make an even tighter restriction than that? Stupid, stupid, stupid. What else can I say. If the elk are that bad off in those particular areas, then ELIMINATE the general season altogether! Duh! All those true spike units should be permit only, IMO. And, not only that, but they should gate all the roads so the tribal members can't go in there and kill all the elk during the rut, and in the winter, like they like to do.