Eye guards

[Moose Master]

Some confusion with the regs on page 39 of the game pamphlet.  In the spike bull restrictions.   If the eye guard is within in the 4" zone of the attachment to the skull is it legal?  I have ask three different wardens and have gotten three different answers.  So I known that there are some great minds out there and was wandering what the opinions were about this.  A bull was passed up over this issue and its still lingering in my mind.  Thanks for the input.

[NRA4LIFE]

Perfectly legal.

[Buckmark]

Perfectly legal.

Yep, but as the OP stated he has asked 3 different wardens and got 3 different answers, remember it is up to "the descretion" of the warden who checks you and writes the citations...

[NRA4LIFE]

It is stated pretty clear in the regs IMO.  There was a picture on this site awhile back of a legal spike that had a spike on one side and a spike on the other side with 6 small legal length eye guards within the 4" zone.  Perfectly legal.

[bobcat]

Just wondering, how does a person accurately gauge what 4 inches is on an elk at say, 300 yards?   

[Skillet]

As Grandpa would have whispered back to me if I asked him if I thought it was a shooter-

"If you pulls your trigger, you takes your chances."

The game laws in this state are getting a little ridiculous with the complextity... almost need a lawyer on retainer anymore.

[WSU]

The reg book seems clear to me.  No antler point more that 4 inches up.  Also, it ain't totally up to the warden's discretion.  They can ticket you, but that doesn't mean it will stick if challenged.

[Skillet]

The reg book seems clear to me.  No antler point more that 4 inches up.  Also, it ain't totally up to the warden's discretion.  They can ticket you, but that doesn't mean it will stick if challenged.

Agreed, the regs are clear on that particular point - but to Bobcat's point, can I be confident enough to pull the trigger to tell the difference between 3-3/4" and 4-1/4" at 300 yards?

[WSU]

I wouldn't be.  Just like I'm hesitant to shoot a 3 point buck with a 1 inch third point.  I've passed many a deer for that exact reason. 

[Moose Master]

Thanks for the comments.  All was great input and much appreciated.

[Houndhunter]

kinda off topic, but i got a frivolous ticket out "hunting" and i paid it off because they told me i was technically hunting. well after quite a bit of research and talking with the dept i found that i was not in the wrong but to late to fight a paid off ticket.

know your rights and regulations because sometimes the gamies don't

[Elkrunner]

Just wondering, how does a person accurately gauge what 4 inches is on an elk at say, 300 yards?   

I was thinking the same thing.  What if you shoot and it ends up being 4.5 inches?  I would say pass on it, because its not worth the headache.  Or you can just do what I did and start archery hunting.  300 yards is just barely out of my range.

[Miles]

Just wondering, how does a person accurately gauge what 4 inches is on an elk at say, 300 yards?   

If you can't then you don't shoot.  Seems pretty simple to me.

[rtspring]

If there is any doubt as to legal or not , Let the animal walk.  Plain and simple.......

RTSPRING

[bobcat]

If you can't then you don't shoot.  Seems pretty simple to me.

Well, yes Miles, that's obvious. Ever heard of a rhetorical question? I guess I was trying to point out how I dislike the "true spike" rule. Spike only is bad enough, but then to make an even tighter restriction than that? Stupid, stupid, stupid. What else can I say. If the elk are that bad off in those particular areas, then ELIMINATE the general season altogether! Duh! All those true spike units should be permit only, IMO. And, not only that, but they should gate all the roads so the tribal members can't go in there and kill all the elk during the rut, and in the winter, like they like to do.