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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: firehawk87 on August 11, 2011, 01:57:44 PM

Title: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: firehawk87 on August 11, 2011, 01:57:44 PM: The arrow is a Easton ST Epic 400 and the broadhead is a slick trick 125 grain magnum.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: h20hunter on August 11, 2011, 01:59:06 PM: How does it fly when you shoot?
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: Johnb317 on August 11, 2011, 02:04:56 PM: I shoot beman 340 with 100 gr slick trick.... 35 yard shot full pass through on Elk in 2009
Need to know poundage of bow etc. Nockpoint likes to run 4 fletchings... My broadheads fly like my field points so I don't argue.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: Button Nubbs on August 11, 2011, 02:33:41 PM: Sounds a little light for my taste but I like heavy arrows. I'm sure it will work. What is your bows poundage?
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: halflife65 on August 11, 2011, 03:01:37 PM: I'm pretty sure that's fine - good arrow and good broadhead. What is your poundage and length of arrow? With a heavy broadhead and light arrow, the only thing to worry about is making sure that you aren't under-spined. However, if your arrow is short or your not pulling excessive draw weight it should be good.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: firehawk87 on August 11, 2011, 03:25:08 PM: 60lb draw and 29'' arrow
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on August 11, 2011, 03:31:37 PM: It's not like changing bullet weights for different game, that arrow will do the same thing to all three species, put a hole in what ever you hit.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: halflife65 on August 11, 2011, 03:34:43 PM: Well, your arrow is long but your draw weight is light. You can look up spines on the Easton website. I think you're ok, though. The ultimate answer is if it flies straight, though.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: jackelope on August 11, 2011, 03:52:59 PM: The Easton chart says you are good with a 400 spline arrow where you're at with that head, draw weight, etc.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 11, 2011, 04:04:31 PM: :chuckle:O here we go again :chuckle: I shoot easton 400 with a 100 gr. WASP .. Yeah its light but I have no problems with them ...AND THIS IS JUST MY :twocents: :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: croix on August 11, 2011, 04:04:50 PM: Quote from: jackelope on August 11, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
The Easton chart says you are good with a 400 spline arrow where you're at with that head, draw weight, etc.

I must be looking at a different chart http://www.huntersfriend.com/carbon_arrows/hunting_arrows_spine_chart_by_deflection.htm (http://www.huntersfriend.com/carbon_arrows/hunting_arrows_spine_chart_by_deflection.htm)

this one indicates that he should be using a .330-.370 spine for a 125 gr. head on 29" arrow at 60#

overall arrow weight should be right around 408 gr. which is more than enough to be legal at 60#. the rest depends on your bow and its ibo speed to determine how much kinetic energy you're getting. i would say that it's probably enough. i think that you will probably be able to knock down any of those species with your setup.

i would probably still go with a stiffer spine, but that's just my :twocents:
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: jackelope on August 11, 2011, 04:15:33 PM: I just punched the numbers into the Easton shaft selector page.
:dunno:
http://www.eastonarchery.com/products/selection_hunting (http://www.eastonarchery.com/products/selection_hunting)
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: jackelope on August 11, 2011, 04:17:09 PM: If I choose the single cam selection it says to use a .340 spline shaft.
:dunno:

What kind of bow?
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: firehawk87 on August 11, 2011, 08:54:58 PM: mathews switchback
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: jechicdr on August 11, 2011, 09:21:51 PM: You should be using 340's.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: colockumelk on August 12, 2011, 09:49:53 AM: I concur you should be using 340's. How did you figure out your arrow length? Did you include your broadhead in that length? What is your draw length. If your draw length is 29" and your arrow (without the broadhead included) is 29" then you can cut an inch off of your arrows and your spine will be good to go. This is WAY cheaper than buying new arrows. Good luck on your first year bowhunting. And good luck on your private property. Wish I could hunt it with you. Have a good one brother.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: firehawk87 on August 12, 2011, 09:57:20 AM: The kid at the cabelas in post falls idaho set me up. My draw length is 29''. I think I will do what you say and cut the inch.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: jechicdr on August 12, 2011, 06:53:24 PM: If you stick with the 400's, you could drop your draw weight to 53 lbs. Or you would could drop your broadhead weight to 100's and cut your arrows down to 27 inches. If you cut to 28 inches, you could drop your draw weight to 56.5 lbs and accomplish the same thing.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: RadSav on August 13, 2011, 03:31:00 AM: You are a little light spined, but if they are flying good who cares. Shoot them in wind and rain to make sure your getting acceptable forgiveness. Plenty good for killing all three just keep those blades as sharp as possible. Don't go lighter in broadhead to stiffen spine unless you shorten the arrow as well. Otherwise your FOC will be a little too light for good all weather consistency.

The squaw shoots 50# 24.5" draw with 25' Beman Hunter 500's / Savora Contender 100's and she has been killing elk, deer and bear without a single failure for over 15 years. You've got one heck of a lot more speed and penetration than she does. If your happy with it and can hit the buggars in the right spot you'll be just fine!
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: firehawk87 on August 13, 2011, 10:16:18 AM: Thanks RadSav, I appreciate your advice.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: colockumelk on August 13, 2011, 12:46:09 PM: Yeah I forgot to mention that. If you can consistantly keep a tight group out to 40yds. (4"-6") then I wouldnt change anything. If you're getting a bunch of sporadic hits out at 40yds and you KNOW its not a pulled shot then I would change. But don't fix it if it aint broke. Just because a computer system says something doesn't mean its true. Those programs are designed as a guide to start with so you don't have to test different stuff out to get a good combo. You still need to go out and shoot it. If it works well then you're good to go.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: jechicdr on August 13, 2011, 04:25:57 PM: A tight group with field tips and an improperly spined arrow will change when you put a broadhead on it. And you will not likely get good "broadhead" tuning to match the field tips impact.
Title: Re: is this a good arrow/broadhead combination for deer,elk, and bear???
Post by: hillbilli on August 18, 2011, 11:25:42 PM: its plenty draw weight, good broadhead, if it flies good, and you can group with it, it will do the business..