Post by: CedarPants on August 12, 2011, 02:54:10 PM
If this site has already been posted I apologize. I just thought it would be wise for us to monitor their site and provide feedback to them when necessary, as I am noticing there are several supporters on their Facebook page that frequent the WDFW Facebook page as well.
One of the most recent questions posed to Washington's Wolves via Facebook: " Hello, for the people that don't live in WA, can they still send an email to the commission telling them there should be 15 breeding pairs of wolves in Washington?"
This question was posed by the same individual that adamantly and loudly opposes hound hunting on WDFW's Facebook page.
I'll be keeping my eyes on this one and just wanted to share
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on August 13, 2011, 09:17:27 AM
Post by: CedarPants on August 13, 2011, 11:21:19 AM
Post by: buckfvr on August 13, 2011, 12:01:42 PM
Post by: CedarPants on August 13, 2011, 02:55:31 PM
Our state has a long history of using non-resident support for issues such as this....bear baiting, trapping, and hound hunting come to mind......I would like to see an end to outsider input on state issues...........
They will always provide "input" in the cleverly veiled form of "citizen science". In my opinion, they also target demographics within our state that are neither here nor there on issues such as this - and they hit them hard and often with their literature until these people unwittingly take up the cause without having really researched the issue or even heard opposing viewpoints from sportsmans organizations. What happens when they do this? 1.4 million voters who are in no way, shape, or form affected by hound hunting or baiting and who really have no thorough knowledge of the issue in its entirety show up at the polls and vote to make it a crime.
What really gets me with organizations like this ..... if you'll notice on that Facebook page, Washington's Wolves is asked if people that don't live in Washington can still email the commission telling them there should be 15 breeding pairs. The Washington's Wolves correspondent informs this person that yes you can do this and directs them to the Conservation Northwest site. Here is the email template from the Conservation Northwest site:
Dear Washington Wildlife Commission members,
As a citizen of Washington, I am delighted to see wolves returning to our state. I value their positive effect on our ecosystems and wish to see gray wolves recover as soon as possible.
The Wolf Conservation and Management Plan is a pragmatic and broadly supported plan for restoring wolves, minimizing livestock/wolf conflicts, maintaining healthy ungulate populations and hunting opportunities, and ensuring that wolves can eventually serve their keystone role in Washington’s ecosystems.
I urge you to adopt this wolf plan for the following reasons:
* The wolf plan was developed through the hard work of a diverse 17-member stakeholder group, reviewed by scientists, and publically vetted across the state. A majority of the working group members support the plan. It is appropriate to honor the efforts of the stakeholder group and the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, and adopt the final plan.
* According to scientists, a minimum of 15 breeding pairs must be present for 3 years and distributed across three recovery regions before wolves may be removed from protected status.
* It is inappropriate to put a cap or an upper limit on the total number of wolves in Washington, since predators are self regulating. No native species in Washington has ever been subject to a population cap.
* Lethal “take” (legal killing of wolves) may only be used as a last resort if non-lethal methods have proven unsuccessful.
Thank you for ensuring that Washington's visionary wolf plan is strong enough to conserve, manage, and recover wolves in a balanced way that will ease the transition for everyone, including the wolves.
I highlighted the first line to emphasize how crooked these groups are. They are directing out-of-staters to send our commission an email with a clear intent of representing themselves as a citizen of Washington. These guys are so :liar: that it makes me sick, and I will be sending my own letter to the commission highlighting this issue
Post by: firefighter4607 on August 14, 2011, 03:37:00 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 14, 2011, 04:27:03 PM
I tried to strike up a civilized and respectful conversation with them but am not surprised at their lack of response:chuckle: :chuckle: :bdid:
Post by: 3nails on August 14, 2011, 05:18:33 PM
:tup: :tup: :tup:Our state has a long history of using non-resident support for issues such as this....bear baiting, trapping, and hound hunting come to mind......I would like to see an end to outsider input on state issues...........
They will always provide "input" in the cleverly veiled form of "citizen science". In my opinion, they also target demographics within our state that are neither here nor there on issues such as this - and they hit them hard and often with their literature until these people unwittingly take up the cause without having really researched the issue or even heard opposing viewpoints from sportsmans organizations. What happens when they do this? 1.4 million voters who are in no way, shape, or form affected by hound hunting or baiting and who really have no thorough knowledge of the issue in its entirety show up at the polls and vote to make it a crime.
What really gets me with organizations like this ..... if you'll notice on that Facebook page, Washington's Wolves is asked if people that don't live in Washington can still email the commission telling them there should be 15 breeding pairs. The Washington's Wolves correspondent informs this person that yes you can do this and directs them to the Conservation Northwest site. Here is the email template from the Conservation Northwest site:
Dear Washington Wildlife Commission members,
As a citizen of Washington, I am delighted to see wolves returning to our state. I value their positive effect on our ecosystems and wish to see gray wolves recover as soon as possible.
The Wolf Conservation and Management Plan is a pragmatic and broadly supported plan for restoring wolves, minimizing livestock/wolf conflicts, maintaining healthy ungulate populations and hunting opportunities, and ensuring that wolves can eventually serve their keystone role in Washington’s ecosystems.
I urge you to adopt this wolf plan for the following reasons:
* The wolf plan was developed through the hard work of a diverse 17-member stakeholder group, reviewed by scientists, and publically vetted across the state. A majority of the working group members support the plan. It is appropriate to honor the efforts of the stakeholder group and the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, and adopt the final plan.
* According to scientists, a minimum of 15 breeding pairs must be present for 3 years and distributed across three recovery regions before wolves may be removed from protected status.
* It is inappropriate to put a cap or an upper limit on the total number of wolves in Washington, since predators are self regulating. No native species in Washington has ever been subject to a population cap.
* Lethal “take” (legal killing of wolves) may only be used as a last resort if non-lethal methods have proven unsuccessful.
Thank you for ensuring that Washington's visionary wolf plan is strong enough to conserve, manage, and recover wolves in a balanced way that will ease the transition for everyone, including the wolves.
I highlighted the first line to emphasize how crooked these groups are. They are directing out-of-staters to send our commission an email with a clear intent of representing themselves as a citizen of Washington. These guys are so :liar: that it makes me sick, and I will be sending my own letter to the commission highlighting this issue
Post by: sebek556 on August 14, 2011, 07:16:55 PM
Post by: teal101 on August 15, 2011, 09:33:32 AM
The one with the cute cuddly polar bear cub for an avatar. Looks like a wolf love fest over there between "washington wolves" and" "conservation nw"
I got into it with that moron on the WDFW Facebook page. She eventually stopped posting as she ran out of BS to say. Brainwashed morons...