Post by: klikboom on August 15, 2011, 03:03:25 PM
About 20minutes later I arrived at the spot where I shot it, identified blood a few feet from where I shot it. There was no spray exit would. Spent 3 hours tracking smears and drops with headlamps into rabbit holes, hands and knees. We only moved ~150 yards in three hours down the valley when we backed out at dark. It was so thick, I was counting on a spine hit but it didn't happen. Tracking was mind-boggling, there would be obvious trails but the real path the bear took (as told by blood droplets) would be through unbroken branches of such thickness that I'm certain laws of physics were disproved.
I'm definitely left with a sick feeling, and I replay the sight picture over and again. I think I should've waited for a vital shot and risked not taking a shot. I think I was over anxious for my first bear. I'm not qualified to say whether the bear lived or died, I imagine it would be a muscular wound but still a good chance it died/is dying.
Anyone have knowledge on deciphering severity of injury based on blood? It was a trail on the move, no rest spots. Spotting (small drops) / smearing every 2 feet-ish.
For my education, if you know the wound is not mortal, do you continue tracking? I assume you would just keep pushing the bear farther away before you'd ever get a shot (in deep brush).
Shooting 150gr, .308, Fusion.
Post by: MuleySniper on August 15, 2011, 03:10:32 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 15, 2011, 03:14:42 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on August 15, 2011, 03:14:49 PM
Post by: shedcrazy on August 15, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on August 15, 2011, 03:19:13 PM
Post by: Kola16 on August 15, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 15, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
Id be back out there now still looking :twocents:
:yeah:
Definately the ethical thing to do is to be back out the next day tracking. (actually the ethical thing do do is not take the shot unless you have a clear kill shot) If the brush is as thick as you say, definately with a sidearm or shotgun. Stumbling onto a angry wounded bear in the thick of it can be dangerous. Bring someone along!
As far as ammunition, 150 grain in a .308 seems ok for deer to me but I use 180 grain for bear. 150 seems a little light. Especially if you encounter a bear that is 350 lbs or more. Just my :twocents:
Not trying to scold you but it seems to me you should have passed on that situation. Hope you find it. Stay safe!!
Post by: boneaddict on August 15, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
THey can go a long ways on a mortal hit, let alone a not so mortal hit. Get back out there. Learn the lesson.
You could also be putting some unsuspecting persons life in danger if indeed you have wounded it and not killed it.
Post by: dirty24d on August 15, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 15, 2011, 03:43:40 PM
So, how did you know it didn't have cubs before you shot?
THey can go a long ways on a mortal hit, let alone a not so mortal hit. Get back out there. Learn the lesson.
You could also be putting some unsuspecting persons life in danger if indeed you have wounded it and not killed it.
:yeah:
Good point bone
Post by: rasbo on August 15, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
Really...to me it sounds like you made a rush judgement on the shot. Easy to understand for me. Now, however, you have to deal with it. Go find the bear. Look for the bear until you have exhausted yourself and the area. Don't give up after one day and go hunt another one. Think of it as your one shot.....you took it...now you have the real work to do.
Good luck and I hope you find it. If not, well, sorry your first shot ended the way it did. Just keep at until you can honestly say you've done everything possible to recover the bear.
Post by: klikboom on August 15, 2011, 04:16:32 PM
Yes I've put myself out there to be e-judged by all of you. I'm not too concerned about face but hearing your responses is a good chance for me to learn, and I'm trying to learn as much as possible. I've exemplified a danger of teaching oneself how to hunt is that lessons have to be learned the hard way and not merely imparted.
I'm at work and this was a 1.5hr away drive then 4 miles uphill on a bicycle in so it's safe to say it is lost at this point. As far as calling off the search we both have never killed a bear and we stopped at night when we were crawling with headlamps. I wanted to get my dog the next day but that is illegal. We stopped at the edge of third growth that was even thicker than the brush we were in.
I'm shooting 150gr because that is what a very successful hunter said I should use and because it performs comparable to the 147gr I practice with. I'll give 165gr a try. This is the first time in 4 years of going after bears I've been in a position to pull the trigger. Two years ago i passed on a head shot that afterward I felt like I should've taken now I'm glad I didn't.
Post by: Woodchuck on August 15, 2011, 04:24:07 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 04:24:40 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on August 15, 2011, 04:29:37 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on August 15, 2011, 04:33:01 PM
Not that it matters but thanks for posting. I really hope some of the young guy's on here read this and maybe learn a little.
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 15, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
Post by: boneaddict on August 15, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 15, 2011, 05:12:52 PM
Post by: O_mykiss on August 15, 2011, 05:15:56 PM
If you pull the trigger on an animal, you owe it to the animal to exhaust every available resource until there are no other options. No excuse for backing out because its dark, especially if you knew you couldn't come back the next day.
I would be back up there looking at the next available chance, regardless of how far it is.
Post by: bearhunter99 on August 15, 2011, 05:28:29 PM
1. I have never seen a tougher animal than a bear. I shot a very large bear and the first shot broke its spine, I hit it 2 out of the next 3 shots. The second shot took both lungs and the fourth took off the top of its heart. The bear finally didn't get back up, probably 300 yards form the first shot.
2. Do the right thing and punch your tag and go find it. I shot a nice mule deer with my bow, the arrow got deflected by an unseen sagebrush branch. I spent two solid days looking for it, then every night after work looking for birds. I found it about a week later, in a brush pile I walked through 2-3 times. I put my already punched tag on the horns and took em home. I always double check my shooting lanes now.
Anyways, I agree that you owe that animal more than a couple of hours of searching.
Post by: bloodhound on August 15, 2011, 05:30:17 PM
if you can keep finding blood you keep going till it runs out and theres no way to find it. and call your friends the more the merrier.
where abouts in the state did you shoot it at?
Post by: KenPCPilot on August 15, 2011, 05:32:53 PM
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on August 15, 2011, 05:42:05 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 15, 2011, 05:43:29 PM
Post by: GHETTO GUIDE on August 15, 2011, 05:48:28 PM
Looking sucks , period! But this is what we do and what we owe the animal . So you pack up and go back in loaded and search untill you have beat the hell out of yourself. When you are done you look longer, take a break... Yes this sucks , Its not as fun as hunting but thats the breaks. Dont give up untill you are able to live w/ your choice.
Post by: ratherhunt on August 15, 2011, 06:13:57 PM
then you know you tried. Call in sick whatever but look and keep looking. I would
also punch my tag I lost a deer overnight and by the time I found it the coyotes had
gotten it but I punched my tag and felt better at least I found it.
Post by: DBZona on August 15, 2011, 06:16:14 PM
To me how long a blood trail is, is irrelevent. It tells me one of two things, one I either had a really bad non fatal hit, or two it just ran really fast on fatal hit. I have experienced both in my hunting career and have learned that both are possible for EVERY hunter to experience and that the type,color, etc... of blood is more important.
From what you told in the story at 100 yards is I am guessing a non fatal hit in the neck, but lets say you did miss both the spine and jugular, what if you took out the esophogus, or wind pipe? That is a possibility. A bear could survive a clean shot through both, but could also die from a clean shot through both.
Bottom line is, and you know this, is this is a learning experience for you. Take it as that. People are going to tell you that you have to get out there and look some more, and maybe you should, but only you know if you have exhausted every effort in finding the bear, no one else on this forum knows that more than you. So if you feel you have, then good for you. Especially in thick brush, Its going to be hard to find a bear that is not bleeding a whole lot.
So go out if you feel it is the right thing to do, and whatever to those who are gonna give you the third degree for rushing a shot, or taking a head shot, or (in there opinion) not looking long enough. Cause I am sure they have NEVER EVER done anything stupid in there hunting careers. And this forum has a lot of them, and it is the very reason I do not post a whole lot. I joined this forum to be encouraged and to learn, not to be criticized for making a simple mistake.
So I encourage you to do what your heart tells you in this matter. And learn from it. I even challenge you to do what I did, introduce one of your buddies to the sport of hunting, tell him your mistakes and how you learned from them. That is what my dad did for me. To me the best and most of the hunting stories growing up were about mistakes made in the field and how he overcame them. And the story always ended as a successful hunt. NO HUNT IS PERFECT. And I have now passed my stories of my mistakes to a youth I am teaching to hunt.
This is just my :twocents: So just take it for what it is and do what you feel is right.
Post by: seth30 on August 15, 2011, 06:38:42 PM
Post by: Alan K on August 15, 2011, 06:41:17 PM
Go back and look, you owe it to the bear and yourself, do everything you can
then you know you tried. Call in sick whatever but look and keep looking.
:yeah:
The difference between looking at night and day is well, night and day. Definitely get up there ASAP when you have plenty of daylight!
Post by: woodswalker on August 15, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
I once shot and wounded a deer, big chunks of ribs and meat all over the area where he was standing when i shot him.... I looked for two solid days in the pouring rain in the Willipa Hills, nforded creeks and crawled/walked miles I never found it nor did i see birds or hear any carrion eaters chortling over free food...I notched my tag and learned my lesson.
Incidentally, that was the hunt, a week of pouring rain, that convinced me to get a SS/Composite rifle.
So yeah, in my opinion you have more looking to do. Then some inward reflection.
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 15, 2011, 06:45:18 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 15, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 06:51:17 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:04:10 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 07:13:19 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
Post by: 3nails on August 15, 2011, 07:19:55 PM
His efforts have been more than sufficient. :dunno: Animals do get away.150 yards on a wounded bear is NOT "sufficient".
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:22:13 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 07:24:03 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 15, 2011, 07:25:07 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
I don't think people are saying search in the dark. They are saying go back and look. You make it sound like shoot em and leave, one less is one the better. Besides, its up to him of course to decide, nobody has said otherwise other than encouraging him to continue the search.
I most definately agree with that.
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 07:27:36 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:28:15 PM
One less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
and I will repeat
Post by: Alan K on August 15, 2011, 07:30:30 PM
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:32:30 PM
I don't know that I could shoot and leave any animal. Hell if I were in Idaho and hit a wolf I'd be back looking for it until I found it. Different ethical standards I guess. :dunno:
Me too but have not been able to find them all.
Post by: h20hunter on August 15, 2011, 07:32:45 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 15, 2011, 07:33:26 PM
and this is coming from a guy who said anyone who says they would shoot bigfoot should loose their license? :dunno:One less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
and I will repeat
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:34:34 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on August 15, 2011, 07:35:19 PM
Post by: saylean on August 15, 2011, 07:35:51 PM
Personally, I wouldnt go searching for a bear in the dark, with or without a partner (unless its raining or will likely rain, washing away any trail). I think you will do more damage than good to the trail/sign and its dangerous for all involved. Wait until early the next morning and hit it with as many people who want to help. I would personally spend more than 3 hours. 3 hours seaching for an animal is not enough. Thats me.
Give it your all, do your best and learn from it. The bear deserves it. Losing an animal is gut wrenching.
Post by: bloodhound on August 15, 2011, 07:38:25 PM
Post by: Alan K on August 15, 2011, 07:45:45 PM
I don't know that I could shoot and leave any animal. Hell if I were in Idaho and hit a wolf I'd be back looking for it until I found it. Different ethical standards I guess. :dunno:
Me too but have not been able to find them all.
If 3 hours and 150 yards one evening is an adequate amount of searching time for you to accept defeat, I'm not surprised you haven't found them all. You've got to get up there the next morning and get some more looking in in decent light, and with any luck you'll find it and might still have a chance to salvage some meat. Even beyond when the meat has spoiled any true sportsman should be up there looking.
Post by: seth30 on August 15, 2011, 07:46:58 PM
i dont know what area in wa where you shot it at but i might be willing to join a search crew!Im in oak harbor, and willing to help if you need help near that area as well.
Post by: boneaddict on August 15, 2011, 07:56:54 PM
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One less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
Post by: dscubame on August 15, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
WoW! this is coming from a represenative of Washington for Wildlife. Brilliant.QuoteOne less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
We all cannot be as perfect as you bone.
Post by: seth30 on August 15, 2011, 08:02:48 PM
Post by: dirty24d on August 15, 2011, 09:53:04 PM
Post by: huntnnw on August 15, 2011, 10:11:17 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 15, 2011, 10:48:15 PM
Looks like you have 3-4 standing offers to help you on your search.
You should really stand back and take a 2nd look at this situation your in. If you truly feel that the drive and 4 mile bike ride in is part of the equation on why you are not returning to exhaust your search efforts, do sportsman in general a favor and burn your license and sell your gun.
I hope you take up someone's generous offer of their time to try and salvage some face here with your peers. You owe that bear the respect he/she has earned.
Post by: huntnnw on August 15, 2011, 11:04:58 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 15, 2011, 11:10:07 PM
Post by: huntnnw on August 15, 2011, 11:15:30 PM
Post by: flinger on August 15, 2011, 11:36:12 PM
GO FIND YOUR BEAR :twocents:
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on August 16, 2011, 12:02:39 AM
Post by: huntnnw on August 16, 2011, 12:09:20 AM
Post by: DBZona on August 16, 2011, 05:05:10 AM
If you truly feel that the drive and 4 mile bike ride in is part of the equation on why you are not returning to exhaust your search efforts, do sportsman in general a favor and burn your license and sell your gun.
Really? The guy already feels bad about what happened and had the balls to accept the fact that he made a mistake and come on to this board for advice and support as to what he should do. How do you know he did not exhaust his search efforts? You do not know how thick the brush was, how hard it was to travel through. We all agree, including himself, that he should not have taken the shot...hindsight is always 20/20. Plus that is not the entire equation.
So for all the hunters on this forum that have screwed up on a hunt and felt they gave it there all, but were told by someone else that there efforts were not good enough, then we should all hang it up and sell our guns, because we apparently do not belong in the woods.
HE SCREWED UP ON THE SHOT, LET HIM LEARN FROM IT AND MOVE ON. I thought this forum was about Encouragement and helping fellow hunters out, but so many on here are so quick to cast stones.
Wouldn't be suprised if he did what you said and hung it up, because some of you are criticizing him. If it were me, I would be thinking, man, I suck at this.
How awesome is it to encourage an honest, wants to do what is right, hunter to leave the sport? Does it make you feel better? Cause if that is how some of you get your kicks, then maybe you should not be on this forum. If he was an unethical, didn't have a care in the world hunter then ya, he should not be hunting, but this is not that situation.
So everyone on there high horse, get the hell off.
For those that do not know how to give good advice for those who honestly screwed up, this is how you do it:
Offer your :twocents:, then back it up with words of encouragement. Dont give your :twocents: with a holier than thou attitude, and encourage him to hang it up.
He feels bad enough, lets not drive someone who wants to learn away by being A$$e$.
Post by: demontang on August 16, 2011, 07:18:47 AM
Post by: h20hunter on August 16, 2011, 07:58:37 AM
Post by: Goldeneye on August 16, 2011, 08:04:49 AM
Post by: mulehunter on August 16, 2011, 09:01:40 AM
Mulehunter.
Post by: jackelope on August 16, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
One less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
Holy crap...I seriously think I've seen it all written on here now. Are you an "officer" of WFW?
Cut your tag, call it a notched tag and be done with bear hunting this year.
I think that some of the comments on here have beem worse than the lost bear itself.
Post by: jackelope on August 16, 2011, 09:12:20 AM
One less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
and I will repeat
and you should remove yourself from WFW
:twocents:
Post by: bankwalker on August 16, 2011, 10:17:12 AM
One less predator good job! Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.
and I will repeat
and you should remove yourself from WFW
:twocents:
what do you mean? he fits right in to me........................
Post by: Stilly bay on August 16, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
There should be enough "true Sportsmen" on this forum living near everett to get quite a search party going.
Post by: mulehunter on August 16, 2011, 10:41:05 AM
In my mind next hunt in future. I will definely ask here to help me to find bear if i cant find As long as I find first blood drip evidence to ask for help.
if I never find any one size as penny of blood. I wouldn't waste my time post about lost or not sure if hit or not.
Mulehunter
Post by: TheHunt on August 16, 2011, 11:16:27 AM
Post by: seth30 on August 16, 2011, 11:21:21 AM
Another great thread on Hunter cannibalism. These type of situations require education, support from behavior/choice or physically teaming. But this is just my opinion.
:yeah: Not every guy/gal on here grew up in a hunting family, or enviroment. Not every hunter has or had a mentor, and when they ask for help they get scolded. Please be mature and help our fellow hunters out. :twocents:
Post by: seth30 on August 16, 2011, 11:22:45 AM
One thing I like about H-W, if I feel strong I hit a bear. Couldn't find it. Good thing I have internet on cell and go anywhere and i could post to ask for any one to come help. Like in Okanagon county there so much offer. Great people around here willing to help.who is your cellphone carrier? I never have signal hunting in the cascades.
In my mind next hunt in future. I will definely ask here to help me to find bear if i cant find As long as I find first blood drip evidence to ask for help.
if I never find any one size as penny of blood. I wouldn't waste my time post about lost or not sure if hit or not.
Mulehunter
Post by: runamuk on August 16, 2011, 11:29:06 AM
Another great thread on Hunter cannibalism. These type of situations require education, support from behavior/choice or physically teaming. But this is just my opinion.
:yeah: Not every guy/gal on here grew up in a hunting family, or enviroment. Not every hunter has or had a mentor, and when they ask for help they get scolded. Please be mature and help our fellow hunters out. :twocents:
This thread is why if I ever get to hunt again and if I ever suceed or take a shot I may never announce it here .... far too much eating of our own around here....of course the anti's love seeing this....
Post by: mulehunter on August 16, 2011, 11:56:16 AM
X-Droid Verizion, I have no computer at home. I always use my cell anywhere I go. When I went high country and has no signal but I can go down few miles get better signal and share story. Last winter I went up okanagon and never need computer and I always get in touch with anybody on this cell. Its very cool.One thing I like about H-W, if I feel strong I hit a bear. Couldn't find it. Good thing I have internet on cell and go anywhere and i could post to ask for any one to come help. Like in Okanagon county there so much offer. Great people around here willing to help.who is your cellphone carrier? I never have signal hunting in the cascades.
In my mind next hunt in future. I will definely ask here to help me to find bear if i cant find As long as I find first blood drip evidence to ask for help.
if I never find any one size as penny of blood. I wouldn't waste :IBCOOL:my time post about lost or not sure if hit or not.
Mulehunter
Some places has no signal but if your about 30 miles away you could drive go down and get on H-W and post ask for help. Lots people have different cells depends. But what I am using. I love it. Everyone in our family have it.
I went to Idaho two years ago. I asked Bearpaw to keep in touch with me while. I am hunting alone for Bears and I gave him my Extra collar # in my pack in case if I haven't return any calls and Bearpaw family will be able to find right spot where I am. :tup:
Mulehunter.
Post by: dirty24d on August 16, 2011, 12:35:32 PM
Another great thread on Hunter cannibalism. These type of situations require education, support from behavior/choice or physically teaming. But this is just my opinion.
:yeah: Not every guy/gal on here grew up in a hunting family, or enviroment. Not every hunter has or had a mentor, and when they ask for help they get scolded. Please be mature and help our fellow hunters out. :twocents:
This thread is why if I ever get to hunt again and if I ever suceed or take a shot I may never announce it here .... far too much eating of our own around here....of course the anti's love seeing this....
AMEN
Post by: klikboom on August 16, 2011, 05:00:30 PM
1. I shot it up in the bellingham area.
2. Looks like I may have saturday morning to go back out hunting. If anyone in the b'ham area can bike uphill for a sustained period of time I wouldn't turn down the assistance though my feeling is, it is a futile search. I'm not certain about going out, but PM me if you are up for an early bike in on saturday. I have a wedding to go to in b'ham at 5pm so it'll be in early and out by about 3pm.
3. I have a bear transport tag, if I transport any piece of the bear I will notch it. Otherwise treating is as some noble gesture or in solemn reverence to a wounded bear is a little dramatic for me.
4. You can continue the :beatdeadhorse:, flaming and such if that makes you feel good, I won't be logging back in to read the thread anymore.
5. What I was looking for was education on tracking and shot placement and out of six pages I've got a few posts that are actually useful. I could've gone back the next day (Sunday) no problem but we both felt without actual wet blood (was the only thing reflecting off of the headlamps) or a dog the search would be futile. We had lost the trail multiple times only to be saved by the most miniscule droplet of blood leading off in a new direction with no trail. The guy with me had never hunted before and this was his first outing. I was teaching him what I know (little about bears) and learning along with him. I actually got the placement of my shot "right behind the ears" from a post on the shot placement thread stickied at the top of the bear page. I figured anywhere in that vicinity was going to be fatal. Just about all the deer I've killed have been quick shots and they seem to go down easy including head/neck shots, bears are apparently a different ballgame, so to speak.
Evidently I implied I was looking for the community's absolution and recommendation on my penance. I wasn't. I do appreciate the since offers of help and recommendations.
See you guys in the woods.
Post by: HunterJake on August 16, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
Go look for that bear. If you hit an animal you owe it to the animal to do everything possible to recover that animal.:yeah:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 16, 2011, 05:31:49 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 16, 2011, 05:52:18 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 16, 2011, 05:53:27 PM
WOW ...You guys seriously ran this boy off !!!!!! :o :bdid: :yike: :yeah:I best mix a good one after reading all that sheet !!!!
Post by: DBZona on August 16, 2011, 06:06:14 PM
WOW ...You guys seriously ran this boy off !!!!!! :o :bdid: :yike: :yeah:I best mix a good one after reading all that sheet !!!!
Yeah, some of you guys suck and have no tact. You guys did exactly the opposite of what this site is inteded to do.
This pisses me off! :bash: Makes a lot of us not want to post our stories for anyone to read.
Some of you guys owe this guy a personal apology in the form of a PM. Cause I personally would not get on this site after some of the comments some of you have made towards him(no encouragement, just criticism).
Who would have thought HuntWa would have internet bullies? Hope you all sleep better knowing you drove an honest guy off.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 16, 2011, 06:09:34 PM
Post by: HOYT6.0 on August 16, 2011, 06:17:19 PM
Dont get discouraged because of a couple of people that think they are perfect. Like stated before. If you hunt long enough, its eventually going to happen. Keep your head up and let me know if you need some help. Just my :twocents:
Post by: alecvg on August 16, 2011, 06:30:19 PM
Post by: DBZona on August 16, 2011, 06:37:33 PM
Another fine example of how this site is going downhill. Monstermulies here we come!
Yep. The one thing that irks me the most was a couple of the comments were from vets on the site that almost everyone looks up too. A great chance to learn from them and this guy got nothing but chastized.
Post by: rb2506 on August 16, 2011, 06:38:18 PM
Post by: sebek556 on August 16, 2011, 06:49:05 PM
i hope the *censored*es on both sides get reviewed, as far as i am concerned i don't think I will ever take a commet from the above mentioned people serious again.
Post by: DBZona on August 16, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
as far as i am concerned i don't think I will ever take a commet from the above mentioned people serious again.
:yeah:
Post by: skier2480 on August 16, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
:yeah: :bash:WOW ...You guys seriously ran this boy off !!!!!! :o :bdid: :yike: :yeah:I best mix a good one after reading all that sheet !!!!
Yeah, some of you guys suck and have no tact. You guys did exactly the opposite of what this site is inteded to do.
This pisses me off! :bash: Makes a lot of us not want to post our stories for anyone to read.
Some of you guys owe this guy a personal apology in the form of a PM. Cause I personally would not get on this site after some of the comments some of you have made towards him(no encouragement, just criticism).
Who would have thought HuntWa would have internet bullies? Hope you all sleep better knowing you drove an honest guy off.
Post by: rasbo on August 16, 2011, 07:08:33 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 16, 2011, 07:15:47 PM
I'm going to lock it now since it has taken way to many tangents and I can't see anything else being added of value that hasn't already been said.
Post by: boneaddict on August 16, 2011, 08:29:28 PM