Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Waterfowl => Topic started by: Bluemoon on August 17, 2011, 04:26:35 PM
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I took this picture in the backyard this morning so I could follow up with the "would you shoot a bird on the ground" post from last week. So my question is...would you take these birds on the water or would you flush them and take them one at a time out of the air? Just looking for who has what kind of ethics so I know who or who not I would ask to go hunting with from this group.
Remember this is all in fun...
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Just looking for who has what kind of ethics so I know who or who not I would ask to go hunting with from this group.
Remember this is all in fun...
call me strange but the part I bolded just doesnt come off as all in fun :dunno:
they are ducks so usually you dont flush them you call them in and take them as they land....but I wouldnt take any shot either way I really dont like duck...
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I'd blast the crap outta them were they are with my first shot, then unload the next 8 shells from my semi auto as they try and take flight (whats the limit anyway?). Be home and smokin duck breasts when other guys are still settin up there dekes...
Man i guess that corn i have been tossing out there is workin, i was gettin worried i might have to actually freeze my butt off in a cold marsh blowing a duck call and waitin for them to come to me..
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Cough really loud and try for the closest greenheads when they take off.
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Well I have this theory........The State will not let you shoot big bulls without permit because they want to have some left for breeding. Now a big bull gets big because he is smart. (enough to get thru several hunting seasons.) So we are trying to keep the smart ones. Now apply that to ducks. Which is the smarter duck the one that fly over and says"Nope I am not landing in those stupid decoys" or the the ones that come on in. Since the ones on the water are the stupid ones I say TAKE EM!!!!!!!!
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Agree with Rory. The follow up to the question is posed in a fashion which may cause a bit of grief.
If in season and with a tag in my pocket, good range.... I would sit and watch them and enjoy the hell out of it. Once they decided to leave, I would harvest one of them. Shooting a duck on the water is low odds, since most of the birds vitals are underwater. We reserve surface shots for kill shots on wounded birds...
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with the economy the way it is,all I see is jerky..one round, four ducks..I'm an opportunist..besides that's a good stalk.If I wanted to be a real sportsman I would use a bow instead of 50 pellets
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Flush 'em, shoot 'em. Yer only goona get 3 max...
The ones that don't flush are either plastic or smart and will swimm away. I've never yet come upon a pond of sitting ducks like that without at least arousing some suspicion before I get within range. The times I am able to creep within range, they usually swimm off out of it again. Every now and then tho' I have gotten close enough to jump up and flush 'em. But those times, the numbers are fewer - there were less eyes and ears to bust me. :chuckle:
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Agree with Rory. The follow up to the question is posed in a fashion which may cause a bit of grief.
Umm. Who's Rory? I just wanna know who you agree with Mr. Iceman. :)
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Runamuk.
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how about a half stick of dynamite with a nice fuze :chuckle: :chuckle: :stirthepot:
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Agree with Rory. The follow up to the question is posed in a fashion which may cause a bit of grief.
Umm. Who's Rory? I just wanna know who you agree with Mr. Iceman. :)
:hello:
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I'd blast the crap outta them were they are with my first shot, then unload the next 8 shells from my semi auto as they try and take flight (whats the limit anyway?). Be home and smokin duck breasts when other guys are still settin up there dekes...
Man i guess that corn i have been tossing out there is workin, i was gettin worried i might have to actually freeze my butt off in a cold marsh blowing a duck call and waitin for them to come to me..
Hahaha thats prime time right there...
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Agree with Rory. The follow up to the question is posed in a fashion which may cause a bit of grief.
Umm. Who's Rory? I just wanna know who you agree with Mr. Iceman. :)
:hello:
Thats awkward... I'm Rory too, but of the opposite sex. Nice to meet you! :hello:
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I love calling in ducks and watching them decoy into the pocket or land them in the zone you have created. I don't mind jump shooting when ducks aren't flying, I have had some of my best memories walking along creeks falling into beaver, nutria holes and swimming for guns that have gone under. Watching my dog flush up pairs and picking out drakes as I walk the creek bottoms.
If I had a big group I would flush them and pick out a drake or two. If it's a large group I leave them alone, so you don't educate them. Same with geese, don't do it if it's a large group, because they won't come back. :tup:
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I'd take one and then two more as they started to fly off.
Whats so unethical about that :dunno:
To me there is no difference between taking a duck on the water and a deer or elk in it's bed.
:twocents:
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some people would say jump shooting in general is unethical...I dont, I would sneek up on em and wait for the flush then take a shot in the air. More sporting and it is more of a lethal shot, they can get pretty armoured when sitting
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some people would say jump shooting in general is unethical...I dont, I would sneek up on em and wait for the flush then take a shot in the air. More sporting and it is more of a lethal shot, they can get pretty armoured when sitting
Who says jump shooting is unethical? Personally I don't think there is anything quite like that adrenaline rush u get from flushing 5 or 6 mallards that did not know were there, and have to keep it in control enough to pick the drake and make a good shot... I say flush em and kill 3 drakes
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Dont recall exactly but there is a school of thought that it is only right to decoy birds in, dont agree but it is out there
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The first 2 ducks I shot I snuck up on, flushed them up, and shot the 2 drakes out of the group. What an adreniline rush and I don't see anything wrong with it even if they still sat in that slough they were in. I have shot two ducks off the water (one wounded) and it killed them instantly. Not even using special shells just normal kent ammo. :dunno:
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some people would say jump shooting in general is unethical...I dont, I would sneek up on em and wait for the flush then take a shot in the air. More sporting and it is more of a lethal shot, they can get pretty armoured when sitting
No one I know would say jump shooting is unethical. Unless your a non hunter. Thats a crazy statement. Sleucing them on the water is frowned upon by most. Jump shooting is a tradition to its own. Walking small creeks and ditches shooting ducks on the wing, "flying" for those that don't get that. Flock shooting and pounding them on the water is frowned upon. Exception to the rule is retrieving a crippled bird.
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No one I know would say jump shooting is unethical. Unless your a non hunter. Thats a crazy statement. Sleucing them on the water is frowned upon by most. Jump shooting is a tradition to its own.
Exactly
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I agree with h2ofowlr. Jump shooting is still shooting in the air and ethical. Sleucing is not, in my opinion. I wouldn't do it.
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Agree with Rory. The follow up to the question is posed in a fashion which may cause a bit of grief.
Umm. Who's Rory? I just wanna know who you agree with Mr. Iceman. :)
:hello:
Thats awkward... I'm Rory too, but of the opposite sex. Nice to meet you! :hello:
lol nice to meet you and actually mine is spelled with an "i" sort of a distinctive name for a girl .....mostly meet guys and one Irish setter with my name :chuckle: :chuckle: I did have a student last year in a class I worked in and she was a rory as well....
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I'd take one and then two more as they started to fly off.
Whats so unethical about that :dunno:
To me there is no difference between taking a duck on the water and a deer or elk in it's bed.
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that's what I was thinking I don't take shots at deer and elk on the run why would I shoot at ducks on the fly. I'm so confused.
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They aren’t close enough together. I’d throw some bread crumbs out there to get them grouped up before opening up on them.
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I didn't know this site was a place where we came to audition for the opportunity to hunt with one another, :dunno: but OK, I'll bite.
I would jump them up and then try and shoot three of them with the three shots I have loaded in my shotgun, wouldn't care what flavor they were, hen or drake as long as it was legal. I would then enjoy the hell out of watching my choco lab retrieve them.
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I think of it more as shooting a deer in the ass than bedding down :twocents:
It will kill the bird and it's perfectly legal to take the shot but I've seen a lot of birds suffer or dive and never found after shooting them that way. Their vitals are under water, their wings are tucked in, and more often than not most people hit low when they take the shot and the bird doesn't get hit with many bb's.
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I'm with Goldtip. I'd help flush, shoot, and sit back and watch the dog work.
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They aren’t close enough together. I’d throw some bread crumbs out there to get them grouped up before opening up on them.
LOL :chuckle:
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You need to wait and let them line themselves up on a log first, line up their heads with your 12 ga, one shot and you'll have your limit without ruining any meat :tup: :chuckle:
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The line em up and kill em is good. all about the head shots
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this is where the old saying,Get your ducks in a row comes from :chuckle:
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I would jump them, jsut because I enjoy shooting them on the wing alot more than sitting in the water. Man, I can never get enough outta jumping, some good memories.
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I'd grab my son or daughter, put them on the opposite side and flush the ducks over them.
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I'd grab my son or daughter, put them on the opposite side and flush the ducks over them.
Yep, they would shoot you :hunter:
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I would jump them, although i have taken a few when they were on the water, but most of those were when we were hunting over decoys and the ducks lit in the decoys, nothing wrong with shooting them on the water then as far as im concered, thats what i call finishing them! :tup:
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haha...oh yeah when they drop in and touch the water they cant finish any more
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I would cut the green head where he sat and try to pick out two more in the air. I guess I don't care if someone does not want to hunt with me cause I will water sloose a duck! :chuckle:
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Its not like its just easy as can be to get them to come and land in the first place I think either way a dead duck is a dead duck regardless of what he was doing before he got killed.
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I have always said "HUT" to get them up then starting shooting.. it takes the sport and fun out of it when they are on the water... :twocents:
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I would cut the green head where he sat and try to pick out two more in the air. I guess I don't care if someone does not want to hunt with me cause I will water sloose a duck! :chuckle:
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I've pounded birds on the water, but i think you get a much better kill when thier wings arn't protecking thier body... A lifting bird goes down better i think. :twocents: Ever noticed how tough a cripple on the water is?
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Like I said earlier on this post, the 2 that I have shot on the water have died instantly. Lucky shots :dunno:
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I can't believe this went this far as a topic. Flush'em. Ground sluecing is for kids and slobs seeing to how many ducks they can kill. I don't have a problem with folks jump shooting, but I wouldn't shoot at all. throw out a few deeks and they should start filtering back.
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Shoot one in the water, then try to get one or two more as they try to fly away. If you're going to shoot the duck and do so by sneaking up on it quietly, why is that unethical?
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I'd jump them and hurry and set out a half dozen decoys and wait for them or others to come back. Then its time to pound them as their trying to land...... :tup:
(Unless I could get them to jump at close range, then I'd probably take a couple as they're trying to get the hell outa there.)
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I would Rambo up on 'em, swimming underwater with a reed snorkle, and then bust up out of the water with my bandana on and a knife in my teeth, grabbing a couple with my bare hands as they jump up to fly. Anything less isn't really hunting.
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Flush them...then shoot them... :tup: We're sportsmen not assassins. :chuckle:
It's personal preference...nothing illegal about shooting them on the water. I flush um!
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Flush them!