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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Karl Blanchard on August 23, 2011, 04:37:05 PM
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Just figured it would be interesting to see what everyone thought on the subject. What do you think the best rifle/scope/caliber/bullet combo for antelope would be. For me it would be the remington 700 CDL Stainless fluted in .257 Weatherby topped with a Leupold vx-3 4.5-14 with a mildot reticle pushing 100gr nosler ballistic tips at just shy of 3600fps. Oh ya!
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:yeah:
Couldn't have said it better IMO!!
MS
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.338 wm 225 gr SST's :twocents:
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.338 wm 225 gr SST's :twocents:
I like how you think. :chuckle: :chuckle:
But for the recoil concious - .257 A.I. 110 gr. Noslers at 3100 fps.
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Mine would be a Remington 700xcr in 270wsm with a Burris Euro-Diamond 2.5x10x44mm with the Ballistic Plex. Shooting a 140gr. Nosler Accubond handload.
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I just bought a sako a7 less then 2 weeks ago just for my lope hunt in wy this year. My wife says my other 270wsm is now hers. I told her I was taking it on my trip and she said no! So I fixed her and went out and bought another one lol. Got a killer deal 900.00 normal price 750 clearance price my price 693.00 :IBCOOL: perfect lope gun stainless syn 270 wsm one of the most flat shooting cals out there. I will be running 140g accubonds. The bare rifle is only 6.5 pounds perfect light weight lope gun. Got to order my 6.5-20x40mm vxIII tonight :drool:
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Weatherby 257, Ultralight. 4-14 or 5-20x scope. Any bullet between 100 and 115 grains that your rifle has fallen in love with. A close second would be my Browning X Bolt in 270 WSM.
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Shot my antelope with a Remington 700 .270 win did a great job! :twocents:
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Maybe not the best, but Mr. Pronghorn didn't enjoy the 53gr TSX from the hand-me-down 220 Swift.(he is not really an antelope)
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I'm taking my win model 70 in 270 WSM topped with a nikon monarch 4 x 16 with the bdc. 140gn accubond handloads. My Fiance will be using a Howa 308 with a leupold vx3 and 150gn accubond handloads. My father is shooting his trusted savage 300 win with a vx3 on top and nosler 150gn handloads. It will be our first trip and we cant wait. We have been practicing long range shooting all year so it should be fun!!!
Lucas
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Ya I did a lot of long range stuff last year for my speed goat hunt and ended up shooting mine at 70 yards :chuckle:
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I'll be using my Win .243 again. 100gr is plenty. I did put a new Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on it
My son will be using Gpa's Remington pump .30-06 topped with the hand me down Weaver 3-9x40 and shooting 150gr
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I'd take my Ruger Hawkeye .243 win. Shooting 85 gr. Barnes TSX or my Ruger No. 1 .25-06 shooting 100 gr. Nosler Ballistic tips!
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IMHO anything .30 or over is ridiculous. These are small and don't need power, Just reach. i killed one at 450 yards with a .270 and I think that was overkill.
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I'm not talkin guns in the safe here. I'm talkin if you could go down to the shop and grab anything or build anything, cost is not an issue in this scenario.
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My Browning BAR .270 weatherby mag, leupold 4x16, pushing a barnes ttsx 110gr at 3500+fps.
Like shooting a .22
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If cost is no consideration:
In my opinion the 257 wtby with a custom match grade barrell, aftermarket trigger, huskemaw scope, best grouping quality handloaded bullets, with the tallest harris bipod would be pretty tough to beat as a lope getter. I love that caliber, it is so flat shooting, no recoil, just hold dead on out to 300, just hold a little higher on the shoulder at 400. (but do not hold over)
My next choice would probably be the 25/06, nearly as flat shooting, set up the same way. After that I think the 270 WSM or Wthby or the 264 WinMag are excellent, followed next by the 243/6mm's.
I have used my 300 wthby, and have seen guys use 7mm's and 338's, but honestly that is just overkill. I have also used my 220 swift, but I think a little more bullet is probably better.
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If cost is no option I too would go with a 257wby match barrel, custom trigger. I would probably top it with schmidt & bender mil dot glass, Harris bi-pod and the best handload i could find. A friend of mine in eastern Montana has this set up and killed his lope at 968yrds last year and shoots yotes out that far all the time. Anything over about 550-600 is pushing it for me but that set up is more than capable in the right hands. :)
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If cost is no consideration:
In my opinion the 257 wtby with a custom match grade barrell, aftermarket trigger, huskemaw scope, best grouping quality handloaded bullets, with the tallest harris bipod would be pretty tough to beat as a lope getter. I love that caliber, it is so flat shooting, no recoil, just hold dead on out to 300, just hold a little higher on the shoulder at 400. (but do not hold over)
My next choice would probably be the 25/06, nearly as flat shooting, set up the same way. After that I think the 270 WSM or Wthby or the 264 WinMag are excellent, followed next by the 243/6mm's.
I have used my 300 wthby, and have seen guys use 7mm's and 338's, but honestly that is just overkill. I have also used my 220 swift, but I think a little more bullet is probably better.
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i could live with something like this
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The Weatherby .257 is a great choice. I will be bringing my .270 Win Weatherby Backcountry to Wyoming this year for my 1st antelope hunt. Also, I will bring my 7-08mm Rem Weatherby Vanguard as a backup. I not planning on having problems, but you never know.
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Current antelope gun is a ruger 77 in 25-06 with handloaded 115gr accubonds at around 3200fps. Topped with an older Burris signature series scope in 4x12, not really sure I could build anything with any truly appreciable improvement on that combo. Maybe could make it lighter, but dead is dead.
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300 win mag loaded with 130 grain Barnes TTSX. 3500 FPS. I am going to start using this load on deer as well. The way I sight in, I can hold dead center on an animal and hit it out to 350.
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When I think Antelope I think 25-06. One of the fastest/flatest shooting big game calibers out there. If I don't have a bow in my hand thats what I would be using to hunt them.
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25-06 100 gr. Nosler and 3.5-10 Nikon BDC
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No 264 fans out there? :dunno:
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just picked up .257 WBY mag Mark V stainless with 3.5-10 Burris and a harris bipod
should work
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I have a 257roy, but for wind country.....make mine a quick twist 6 wizzum or hawk and blow the wad on a s&b pm scope. I would give BAT a go for the action and drop it in a mc stock
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What can a 6mm WSM do that a 257 Weatherby can't?
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LESS
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I used a Stevens .243 with 100 grain bullets and it was more than enough to knock them down last year...
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I just bought a sako a7 less then 2 weeks ago just for my lope hunt in wy this year.
Where are you going? Matt
I used my Browning A-Bolt Stainless Stalker 270 WSM w/ Leupold Vx3 it got the job done in 07. One shot down about 100 yards. Outside of Medicine Bow Wy.
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What can a 6mm WSM do that a 257 Weatherby can't?
Kick its butt in the bc dept at equal or higher velos. We can all guess how high to hold on a ranged shot. I will take a slick wind bucker, since the field was open. I never feel handicapped with my Roy, but holding less windage is a good thing.
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I just bought a sako a7 less then 2 weeks ago just for my lope hunt in wy this year.
Where are you going? Matt
I used my Browning A-Bolt Stainless Stalker 270 WSM w/ Leupold Vx3 it got the job done in 07. One shot down about 100 yards. Outside of Medicine Bow Wy.
Me and a buddy are headed to unit 30, we got access to a bunch of private ground. There will be other hunters but lots of ground and lopes. We each have the one buck tag and 4 Doe tags. I will be getting back late the night of the 14th to be back for the modern opener. I will also be taking one of my handguns that has some range on it. I would like to shoot them all with it but if the right buck is 200+ yards the 270wsm will bark.
Also that is one fine lope you got! Did you score him? The only one I have shot in mt back in 2000 scored right at 79" a dandy. In wy with 10 tags to fill in 4.5 days I aint trophy hunting on this trip, first decent buck will get laid out with my handgun. Unless my big flirts with me past 200y then the short mag will get'er done.
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Also that is one fine lope you got! Did you score him? The only one I have shot in mt back in 2000 scored right at 79" a dandy. In wy with 10 tags to fill in 4.5 days I aint trophy hunting on this trip, first decent buck will get laid out with my handgun. Unless my big flirts with me past 200y then the short mag will get'er done.
Nope haven't gotten him scored. He was the only one I could get close to and it was the last night we were staying. We hunted for 2 days and killed 5 so you should do well. My dad, Chase Wing and Jessie Carr killed theirs within 500 yds of each other.
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I'd love to have a 257 Wby. We are going on our second antelope hunt this season, and if I can't sneak into handgun range, I'll be using my 25 WSSM upper on my AR again. I didn't hear any opinions from last years antelope, but I don't think he liked it very well.
My wife will probably be shooting her old pre-64 243, son will be using his 270 again. If we can get a load worked up for it, Dad will be using a 25/7mm that I built for him. It should have identical ballistics to a 257 Wby, with MUCH cheaper brass. If it works as well as I think it should, I'll build one for myself or my wife next year.
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My dad, my buddy and I will be going to Wyoming Antelope hunting this year. I will be using my M70 270wsm with a 140gr accubond, my buddy will be using his M70 .308 with a 165gr speer hotcore, and my dad will be using a marlin cowboy lever action in 38/55 with a 280gr cast bullet.
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IMHO anything .30 or over is ridiculous. These are small and don't need power, Just reach. i killed one at 450 yards with a .270 and I think that was overkill.
IMHO there is no such thing as over kill. Dead is dead period.
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Well, for a one time antelope hunt I,d feed my 270 some 130 BT,s or accubonds and go hunting. However if pronghorns were on the the list on a regular basis I,d get a .243 or 25.06. :) :)
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No 264 fans out there? :dunno:
I'm currently building a .260 Remington and wouldn't hesitate to use it out to 400 + yards but for a dedicated antelope round I'd think the .264 Win mag would be close to perfect. Shoots a 130 grain bullet the same velocity as the 115's out of the .257 WB and BC of Berger's VLD hunting bullets are .552 for the 130 gr. 6.5's vs. .466 for the 115 gr. 25's. The .264 shoots flatter and hits harder, what's not to like about that.
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In wy with 10 tags to fill in 4.5 days I aint trophy hunting on this trip
Carp,
I think you'll be surprised how easy it will be to fill those tags. Hold out at least the first 2 days :twocents:
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I had at one time and have kicked myself for getting rid of it. :bash:
A Winchester model 70, with a 26" shilen (sp) barrel in 25-06, shot handloaded 120 gr. noslers BT overlapping. I would love to have it again. had a 4x16 mildot and that could have been 6x24 or something like that and would have been about right. :tup:
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content with my 7mm mag throwing a 140grain barnes ttsx at 3360fps
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Id go with my 257 wthby but I know many of Wyoming residents the only shoot their 264 on lope
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No 264 fans out there? :dunno:
Oh yeah I'm a fan, getting a load dialed in is a little more of a chore than other calibers, but once you do it's a great, fast, flat shooting round that will take out anything as far as you wanna shoot. It's a great round that doesn't recive the credit due. It shoot flatter and faster than a 270, but the down side is the heaviest bullet you can shoot is 140gr. It is a sweet caliber, and a pleasure to shoot.
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No 264 fans out there? :dunno:
6.5-06AI with 26" barrel and 120 Sierra Pro-Hunters over Re-22. Bye bye speed goat.
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In wy with 10 tags to fill in 4.5 days I aint trophy hunting on this trip
Carp,
I think you'll be surprised how easy it will be to fill those tags. Hold out at least the first 2 days :twocents:
Thanks Gringo. I will be trying to get it done with my handgun. I would like to shoot all ofthem with it. I will pack a rifle as well. We have some great ground to hunt so I might hold out a little. I want a nice euro of a lope. I have already shot a 80" goat and have a shoulder mount but i love skulls, so i want a decent buck to do a euro with.
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I must have missed it, but how did you do Carp? Did you post up some speed goat pic's?
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It went very well, 10 tags done in 2 days. A above avg buck that makes all time book for me as well :tup:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,85254.msg1067321.html#msg1067321
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I would have a Cooper Jackson Hunter built in 257 Weatherby with a Nightforce 5.5-22X56
Antelope are not tough animals, but often times the shots are long. I killed 3 this year with my 300 weatherby ( I haven't shot my 257 in a while and was just more comfortable witht he 300) and I would say it may have been a slight overkill, but there was no meat loss due to the larger caliber, all the shots were right behind the shoulder and punched right through dropping them in their tracks.
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I got this for this exact reason
Savage 111 LRH in 6.5x284 Norma using 130 Grain Berger VLDs with a Nikon Monarch 4-12x44 BDC.
Aside from an actual custom made rifle, this is about the best factory lope gun I could find!
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i'm working on a 6mm Rem on a Yugo 24/47 mauser. walnut stock cut on my own pattern, Herter's J9 take off barrel, '93 spanish mauser hinged bottom metal, Bold trigger, Dayton Traister safety.
the barrel has some marks i need turned out, the stock is 98% inletted, the receiver is 90% surface polished, need to weld on the new bolt, drill/tap and finish! :tup:
it won't be a 900 yard wonder-killer, but within 300 yards (my comfortable shooting range) i shouldn't expect any issues. if that one fails me, my browning safari .270 has been blooded on antelope earlier in it's life. with it's new stock, it's never fired a round. might be time... :bfg:
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6.5 WSM 8)
Drool (http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f25/lightweight-custom-6-5-wsm-45-rnds-through-27759/) :drool:
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I got this for this exact reason
Savage 111 LRH in 6.5x284 Norma using 130 Grain Berger VLDs with a Nikon Monarch 4-12x44 BDC.
Aside from an actual custom made rifle, this is about the best factory lope gun I could find!
Got the right idea on the chambering, I would lean towards the 140's. There is a world of difference in performance on game between the 130 and 140 when it comes to the 6.5-284 and the .270 WSM. The 140 in my experience anchors animals quite a bit harder and quicker than the 130.
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For me it would be my winchester model 70 xtr sporter topped with a Burris fullfield 3-9x40 chambered in .270wthby.
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Everyone posts about Weatherby cartridges and their lousy free bore but the majority say the ultra mags are to big. Ha, go figure! :chuckle: