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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: h2ofowlr on August 30, 2011, 09:37:04 PM

Title: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 30, 2011, 09:37:04 PM: My second deer tag cost me $26. It sounds like they will be going to over $60 each starting Sept. 1st. :bash:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on August 30, 2011, 09:37:48 PM: Yes, I think someone posted that they would be $66.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: jager on August 30, 2011, 10:00:03 PM: Okay...silly question I'm sure...
I am trying to purchase my second deer tag. My options are to choose my method of hunting, archery..etc.
But, I also have the multi season tag.
Do I still have to choose my method with the second deer? I'm assuming yes :dunno:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on August 30, 2011, 10:03:47 PM: I'm thinking you have to pick your method, and that 2nd tag will only be valid for the one you choose. The multi-season tag can be used for all methods but I think with the 2nd tag you are only allowed to use the one method that you choose.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: jager on August 30, 2011, 10:07:21 PM: Yep...thats what I was thinking.....Dangit!

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on August 30, 2011, 10:34:22 PM: Well, at least you get to choose. If you didn't have the multi-season tag, you wouldn't have a choice. Your 2nd tag would be the same method as your regular general season tag.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: jager on August 30, 2011, 11:17:03 PM: Huh, I did not know that....didn't really think about it either :)
Well... first, and more than likely last time I put in for the second deer tag.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on August 31, 2011, 07:24:48 AM: I was thinking about this again this morning, and my last post isn't very accurate. Now that you have already drawn the permit, you don't get to choose the method. The 2nd deer permits specify which tag is required. So your permit is a modern firearm, muzzleloader, or archery permit, and THAT is the tag you need to have to go with it.

But, it is true that having the multi-season tag did allow you to apply for any of the 2nd deer permits, regardless of which tag they required.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 31, 2011, 07:30:25 AM: I guess I better buy my second tag tonight.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: Dirty Mike on August 31, 2011, 10:05:28 AM: ya, this will be my first and last yr buying second deer, at 66 bucks next yr thats so much money
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 31, 2011, 11:22:05 AM: Its kind of unclear looking at the new rates, but it doesn't show how much specifically the second deer tag is. I DONT think it'll be 66 dollars. Most things up there increased about 10%. I'd expect it to be about 2-3 dollars more. The 66 is if you bundle the deer only tag/license with the small game license. Its not THAT big of a deal, just expect to pay 10% more than today.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 31, 2011, 11:24:19 AM: Quote from: luvmystang67 on August 31, 2011, 11:22:05 AM
Its kind of unclear looking at the new rates, but it doesn't show how much specifically the second deer tag is. I DONT think it'll be 66 dollars. Most things up there increased about 10%. I'd expect it to be about 2-3 dollars more. The 66 is if you bundle the deer only tag/license with the small game license. Its not THAT big of a deal, just expect to pay 10% more than today.
that's kinda what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on August 31, 2011, 11:26:47 AM: Someone called and they were told it was $66. That was the cost of the 2nd deer tag, after having already purchased the first deer license and all. At least that is my understanding of it. And I did see several months ago that the proposed new fee was to be somewhere around $60 or $70.

But I'm guessing we will find out for sure here in a few days, from someone who purchased their 2nd tag after the price increase (which would be tomorrow).

I am betting they will be doing a little of this- :bash:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: seth30 on August 31, 2011, 11:30:21 AM: I wish I was selected so I could complain about the price of a second tag :chuckle: Good luck guys on filling your second tag :tup:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 31, 2011, 11:39:16 AM: I don't think the proposed fee list is written correctly, the new one adds the price of a small game license to the tag on the higher price listed. But you can get a idea from this.

Old: Deer License= $42.30 (in the regs it says $45.20) , Second Deer Permit $26.00 in the 2011 regs

New (tomorrow): $42.90, second deer permit not listed... but based on what has been done before I dont expect it'll change very much.

Old/Current: https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wdfw/licenses_fees.html (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wdfw/licenses_fees.html)
New/Tomorrow: http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/license_fees.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/license_fees.html)

biggest changes are Deer, Elk, Bear, Cougar Combo: Old= List $79.20, Regs say $81.20, NEW= $93.50

Moose, Bighorn, Goats go from $122 to $330

Bear and Cougar go from $24 for both to $22 each

Quality special hunt apps go from $6 to $13.20

Combo fishing up from $46.50 to $52.25
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on August 31, 2011, 12:07:32 PM: $66 for 2nd deer tag as of Sept 1st, they gave us that in a handout at the WDFW meetings.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 31, 2011, 12:13:51 PM: My problem with the $66 is that it is more than the cost for the first deer tag. We'll see tomorrow, but I highly doubt it. Especially cause all second deer is now Antlerless only.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: KopperBuck on August 31, 2011, 12:23:41 PM: Quote from: NWWABOWHNTR on August 31, 2011, 12:07:32 PM
$66 for 2nd deer tag as of Sept 1st, they gave us that in a handout at the WDFW meetings.

Thank you... as I stated in the thread I started earlier, the increase will result in a $66.00 tag (not including dealer fees). I called WDFW, and also saw the dealer fee list today that is given to them by WDFW. That's about a $75.00 doe when you figure dealer fee and application fee. Better be looking for the biggest damn doe you can find!
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 31, 2011, 12:29:36 PM: If I could bet you my second doe tag that it won't be $66 dollars or higher tomorrow for the second deer permit I would. Not sure what I'd win from your side, but I'd put the tag on it!
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Post by: Fishnclifff on August 31, 2011, 12:35:09 PM: Just ran out and got mine :IBCOOL:
I be lookin for the doe I saw last year. :tup:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: speakthelanguage on September 01, 2011, 10:03:16 AM: Just attempted to get mine. It is now 66.00 + dealer fees. I guess it is my fault as I did not realize there was going to be an increase. However, for 66.00 I passed and wont use the tag. Idaho continues to look better every year.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on September 01, 2011, 10:05:06 AM: I finally bought my bear/cougar tags last night, just before the price increase. It was $24 plus a $3 fee. Does anyone know what it would be now, for just the bear/cougar, if you already had purchased deer/elk?
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on September 01, 2011, 10:08:07 AM: Sure as sh*t, right now you go on there and it is listed at $66. I wont be applying for second deer permits anymore.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: D-Rock425 on September 01, 2011, 10:17:45 AM: Just went online to buy mine would've been 68.50 dollars if I would've finished the process. I guess the state can kiss my hairy @$$
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: seth30 on September 01, 2011, 10:19:34 AM: :bash:I wish I could have a second deer tag, and I apply for whidbey every year :bash: I guess you have to live off the island to get a second tag on the island :bash:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on September 01, 2011, 10:22:44 AM: Quote from: seth30 on September 01, 2011, 10:19:34 AM
:bash:I wish I could have a second deer tag, and I apply for whidbey every year :bash: I guess you have to live off the island to get a second tag on the island :bash:

You should have a lot less competition next year. Who in their right mind is going to pay $68.50 to shoot a blacktail island doe. (Not to mention the $6.50 special permit application). Basically it comes down to a little more than $75 and a royal pain in the arse to shoot a blacktail doe.

I can maybe see it for a muley doe...thats a maybe.

Question: How do they justify your first deer being $42.90 and the second being $66. The new prices for bear are $22... and the price for the second is $22. Are they dumb or do they think we are?
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: MtnMuley on September 01, 2011, 10:31:33 AM: I'm sure somewhere there's a link posted somewhere, but could somebody please post it back up. ( New prices on WDFW licenses after 9/1/11). Thanks.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: luvmystang67 on September 01, 2011, 10:38:00 AM: Go here, scroll down under the information section and hit "License Fees" and click the particular category of fee you are looking for (Big Game, Fishing, Small Game, etc) and it is all listed. That is before the online dealer fees and such.

https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/license
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: seth30 on September 01, 2011, 10:39:31 AM: Quote from: luvmystang67 on September 01, 2011, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: seth30 on September 01, 2011, 10:19:34 AM
:bash:I wish I could have a second deer tag, and I apply for whidbey every year :bash: I guess you have to live off the island to get a second tag on the island :bash:

You should have a lot less competition next year. Who in their right mind is going to pay $68.50 to shoot a blacktail island doe. (Not to mention the $6.50 special permit application). Basically it comes down to a little more than $75 and a royal pain in the arse to shoot a blacktail doe.

I can maybe see it for a muley doe...thats a maybe.

Question: How do they justify your first deer being $42.90 and the second being $66. The new prices for bear are $22... and the price for the second is $22. Are they dumb or do they think we are?
been trying for three years now, and I rotate back to sea duty soon. This is my last year of clean hunting for the next six years :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on September 01, 2011, 10:51:43 AM: Looks to me like the 2nd tag hunts are pretty much reserved for the kids now. If you're under 16 (considered a youth) then the tag is only $22. At least the kids will have a better chance of drawing them, and $22 is a fair price. I hope it stays that way for a while, I've got about five more years till my oldest daughter will be old enough to hunt.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 01, 2011, 03:16:08 PM: Quote from: speakthelanguage on September 01, 2011, 10:03:16 AM
Just attempted to get mine. It is now 66.00 + dealer fees. I guess it is my fault as I did not realize there was going to be an increase. However, for 66.00 I passed and wont use the tag. Idaho continues to look better every year.

I threw out the heads up, so you could be the buzzer. Oh well.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: OltHunter on December 13, 2011, 06:48:33 PM: dang, wish i would have read this earlier!

$66 is a little more than the $26 i originally planned for a doe hunt!

good work by the wdfw to sneak in price increases after the regs are printed. don't think i received an email or anything about this......a little ridiculous if you ask me.

my own fault though, just wanted to rant a bit
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: bobcat on December 13, 2011, 07:15:35 PM: They put out a notification for all the price increases, but for some reason the 2nd deer tag was left out. :dunno:
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 13, 2011, 07:28:41 PM: Do you guys think it Will stay at 66 bucks or will get reduced when they only get half the applicants next year.
Title: Re: 2nd deer tag - Better buy them before the 1st.
Post by: colockumelk on December 13, 2011, 08:04:48 PM: Just when I thought the WDFW could not get any dinner they do this. I can understand raising my prices. Bit going from 26 to 66 is STUPID! I mean tje second tag costs more than the first tag. I bet these economically stupid people will be confused as to why the second tags don't sell. Simple economics you can only raise the price if the demand is more than the supply. I bet they keep the price and do something stupid to try and solve it.