Post by: Evoac05 on September 11, 2011, 02:03:21 PM
Post by: YoterHunter on September 11, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
Post by: Hunterman on September 11, 2011, 02:07:21 PM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: steen on September 11, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
Post by: Nilehunter on September 11, 2011, 02:33:19 PM
gut it were i shoot them .less weight to drag.
:yeah:
Post by: p-ohana on September 11, 2011, 04:34:21 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 11, 2011, 04:51:59 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on September 11, 2011, 04:59:46 PM
With deer we are almost always above our camp. So we do a quick feild dress throw in in or on a sled and head down to camp or the road.
Post by: NWBREW on September 11, 2011, 05:03:11 PM
Post by: elkaholic on September 11, 2011, 05:11:30 PM
Post by: Emptyhanded on September 11, 2011, 06:03:54 PM
Well depends. If I can get a truck or ATV near it I will drag it closer to the road so i can keep it clean.
:yeah:
Post by: TheHunt on September 11, 2011, 06:03:59 PM
Post by: Alan K on September 11, 2011, 06:48:42 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on September 11, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
If it's a reasonable downhill drag to a road I'll leave the guts in until I get down there to keep brush/dirt/hair from getting in on the meat as best I can.
+1
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on September 11, 2011, 07:03:38 PM
Post by: buck man on September 11, 2011, 07:38:16 PM
:yeah:gut it were i shoot them .less weight to drag.
:yeah:
Post by: Raul Duke on September 11, 2011, 07:38:49 PM
Once it hits the dirt, it's all about meat care. Gut it where it lies. If you have to drag it, you drag less weight. Unless I am almost on the road, I gut, skin and quarter it right there. Get the meat cooling ASAP.
:yeah:
Post by: colockumelk on September 11, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
Post by: lokidog on September 11, 2011, 08:45:05 PM
Gut it where it is unless it was shot on private land and I feel the landowner wouldn't want gut in their field.
We drag them off the lawn and into the back of the truck. Don't want to mess up the neighbor's landscaping..... :chuckle:
I've actually gutted the last six or so Weathergirl and I have gotten while hanging, plop right into a Rubbermaid tub. Last years' doe was gutted where she dropped on public land out east.
Post by: Tman on September 11, 2011, 09:04:38 PM
If it's a reasonable downhill drag to a road I'll leave the guts in until I get down there to keep brush/dirt/hair from getting in on the meat as best I can.
+1
same here.
Post by: Kola16 on September 11, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
Post by: predator guy on September 11, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
Post by: PolarBear on September 11, 2011, 09:50:52 PM
Post by: huntnnw on September 11, 2011, 09:53:07 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on September 11, 2011, 10:36:08 PM
Post by: high country on September 11, 2011, 10:46:38 PM
Post by: 50CalJim on September 11, 2011, 10:48:24 PM
Not here too argue but all I know is if you kill a Nooksack Bull you will work it over where it lays!!!You can not drag a Nook Bull guarantee!! You may be able to drag a Montana, Eastside Wa or St Helens Bull but you ain't dragging a nook Bull guarantee unless you can reach it with a winch or Quad. As far as I'm concerned the Nook Bulls are the biggest bodied Elk their is bar nun!!! :twocents: I've dragged numerous Elk off the Gravelly range & the Snowcrest in Montana with ease but the Nooks are about half again as big as a Rocky Mtn Elk. 8)If it's a reasonable downhill drag to a road I'll leave the guts in until I get down there to keep brush/dirt/hair from getting in on the meat as best I can.
+1
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 11, 2011, 10:50:33 PM
gut it were i shoot them .less weight to drag.:yeah:
Post by: huntnnw on September 11, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 11, 2011, 10:55:30 PM
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Not here too argue but all I know is if you kill a Nooksack Bull you will work it over where it lays!!!You can not drag a Nook Bull guarantee!! You may be able to drag a Montana, Eastside Wa or St Helens Bull but you ain't dragging a nook Bull guarantee unless you can reach it with a winch or Quad. As far as I'm concerned the Nook Bulls are the biggest bodied Elk their is bar nun!!! :twocents: I've dragged numerous Elk off the Gravelly range & the Snowcrest in Montana with ease but the Nooks are about half again as big as a Rocky Mtn Elk. 8)
But this topic is about deer, not elk.
Post by: 50CalJim on September 11, 2011, 11:03:08 PM
It is? Where does it say that!QuoteNot here too argue but all I know is if you kill a Nooksack Bull you will work it over where it lays!!!You can not drag a Nook Bull guarantee!! You may be able to drag a Montana, Eastside Wa or St Helens Bull but you ain't dragging a nook Bull guarantee unless you can reach it with a winch or Quad. As far as I'm concerned the Nook Bulls are the biggest bodied Elk their is bar nun!!! :twocents: I've dragged numerous Elk off the Gravelly range & the Snowcrest in Montana with ease but the Nooks are about half again as big as a Rocky Mtn Elk. 8)
But this topic is about deer, not elk.
Post by: bobcat on September 11, 2011, 11:04:27 PM
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It is? Where does it say that!
Well, I guess it doesn't. But I assumed he was asking about deer since he posted it in the "Deer Hunting" forum.
But I agree, I would not drag an elk anywhere. I don't even drag deer unless it's all downhill and under 100 yards to the truck.
Post by: 50CalJim on September 11, 2011, 11:15:46 PM
Fair enough! I've had a busy day of doing funerals & drinking so I'm talking jibberish I suppose:sry:But the bottom line is my days of dragging dead weight are over unless its real close to the road. Its just to damn painful when ya start to get a little bit older if ya know what I mean :bdid:QuoteIt is? Where does it say that!
Well, I guess it doesn't. But I assumed he was asking about deer since he posted it in the "Deer Hunting" forum.
But I agree, I would not drag an elk anywhere. I don't even drag deer unless it's all downhill and under 100 yards to the truck.
Post by: Deep Forks on September 12, 2011, 02:11:48 AM
I don't have a rule. I take each situation for what it is. I want my meat clean, cool and not bruised to heck. I do what I can to ensure that.
I'm agreeing with High Country, I like good meat. :tup:Its just to damn painful when ya start to get a little bit older if ya know what I mean :bdid:
50Cal Jim, I do know what you mean and the heal-up time is getting longer too. :chuckle:
Post by: DoubleJ on September 12, 2011, 07:20:13 AM
Post by: Miles on September 12, 2011, 07:44:49 AM
Post by: Navyrep1 on September 13, 2011, 11:32:47 AM
Gonna try to derail the thread here :chuckle: Drag vs. carry? For me, it is easier to take 150lbs and fireman's cary it out of the woods than it is to drag it. Thoughts?
Fireman's carry...seriously? Might be a great idea if you'd like a bunch of ticks in your hair and down your shirt. If you're going to gut it and skin it where it fell then you might as well bone it or quarter it for packing out. Much less weight, cools meat faster, doesn't bruise the hell out of it, and a much more manageable load. Any more than a few hundred yards from a road, I debone and pack from where it fell.
Post by: high country on September 13, 2011, 11:42:02 AM
Post by: rebal69972 on September 13, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
Post by: sledjockey on September 13, 2011, 01:47:45 PM
Post by: Elkrunner on September 13, 2011, 01:56:13 PM
Modern Firearm - We had 8 people in camp and it was cold, we gutted in the field then hung it and skinned at camp.
Early archery elk - only have 2-3 guys in camp. Its quartered in the field and hauled out.
Early season deer - We have done both depending on where we ended up getting it.
Post by: Evoac05 on September 13, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
Post by: high country on September 13, 2011, 08:51:06 PM
Post by: ouchfoss on September 13, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
Post by: turbo on September 13, 2011, 10:37:52 PM
Post by: buck man on September 14, 2011, 09:16:03 PM
Meat cannot bruise once the heart has stopped pumping. I have fireman carried more that a dozen deer and my share of elk quarters. I believe it is a very effective way to carry an average sized buck if your up for the challenge :twocents:Gonna try to derail the thread here :chuckle: Drag vs. carry? For me, it is easier to take 150lbs and fireman's cary it out of the woods than it is to drag it. Thoughts?
Fireman's carry...seriously? Might be a great idea if you'd like a bunch of ticks in your hair and down your shirt. If you're going to gut it and skin it where it fell then you might as well bone it or quarter it for packing out. Much less weight, cools meat faster, doesn't bruise the hell out of it, and a much more manageable load. Any more than a few hundred yards from a road, I debone and pack from where it fell.
Post by: Navyrep1 on September 15, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
Post by: Miles on September 16, 2011, 04:05:00 AM
My lesson learned happened several years ago...big mulie up in 204. After almost five hours to drag him three miles I vowed never to do that again...switched over to quartering or boning where he falls if I'm way back in the toolies.
Some prefer to learn things the hard way...sounds like you are one of those people. :chuckle:
How were your back and legs the next day?
Post by: rtspring on September 16, 2011, 06:06:43 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 16, 2011, 08:19:03 AM
:bdid:
Post by: hunter360 on September 16, 2011, 08:56:42 AM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on September 16, 2011, 10:37:26 PM
if its a rifle kill getting the gut opened up helps to start getting the meat cooled as october is typically cool
for a bow kill after its gutted its a race to get the carcass either in a cold room or get it deboned and on ice
i like eating my kills, meat care is top priority for me
Post by: Fishnclifff on September 16, 2011, 10:53:36 PM
First thing shoot it, Second thing, GUT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the only way to go. My brothers proved that to me. I do it any way.
Older bro shot a 5x5 bull, Tried the gutless method, didnt go so well. Packed out a front quarter. Called me. By the time I got to it, it was bloated.
Weather was cold, snowin. I tried to go ahead and gut it, it was on a bad hillside. Bro tried to help, punctured the gut bag. :yike: Closest I've come to ralphing.
I butchered the rest out, salvaged what I could. Chewed his butt all the way to the truck.
Younger bro shot a nice 4x4 buck. In a canyon. At 1pmish.
He didnt show up at home after last shooting time, last day of late buck.
We waited 4 hrs, then went back to find him.
Found him at 1130pmish, dehydrated, staggering, mumbling, hypothermic,soaking wet from the rain.
I initially made a joke about there better be horns in the truck. He mumbled I'm trying.
We immediately took off his wet clothes and got him into the warm truck. We broke out food and water and started treating him.
When he was stable, he told me where the buck was. Still 200yrds in the timber.
I went up and found the buck, gutted him and dragged him to the truck.
He drug that ungutted deer for 10hrs up out of that canyon. Damn near did him in.
The moral is::: Gut the animal. Less weight to drag/carry, and easier to butcher. Saves a lot of time and energy.
My :twocents:
Post by: buck man on September 16, 2011, 11:42:32 PM
OK Buck Man...you asked for thoughts, that's what you got. This isn't a tough guy competition. Fireman's carry possible, sure....not a big deal for a reasonable distance, just not my choice of method. I don't like ticks down my shirt. Again, you asked for thoughts. My humble opinion, it makes much more sense to lighten the load whenever possible. My lesson learned happened several years ago...big mulie up in 204. After almost five hours to drag him three miles I vowed never to do that again...switched over to quartering or boning where he falls if I'm way back in the toolies. And for the record, that buck was damn near hairless and beat to crap when I got it to the truck. No significant meat loss but still pretty "tenderized". Take care and good luck this year. :tup:First things first navyrep... than you for your service :tup: I am just an average 6' 4" 210# guy who guts and fireman carry's most my deer. I quit dragging long time ago. If its too far to carry( greater than 2 miles) I will bone in the field and pack it out. Gutting it first always takes priority. :dunno: