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Title: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: landcbeitner on September 29, 2011, 10:08:53 PM
Here's the buck I took. My buddy and I hunted from opening day of "High Buck" three days in I took this one (24" outside spread). We saw one bigger buck, but couldn't get a shot at him (dang clouds). Passed a few bucks as well (6 legal bucks passed). I saw three much larger bucks in pre-season scouting. Packed him down and came back to look for another for my buddy, he passed 8 legal bucks... one was almost there, wider than mine, but a little too spindly. Special thanks to Benchmark Barrels!

Shot was 482 yards downhill .91 cos.

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My buddy Ron (of Benchmark Barrels)
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Buck I passed the evening before...
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Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: MuleySniper on September 29, 2011, 10:10:58 PM
Holy mass! Nice buck!
MS
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: kglacken on September 29, 2011, 10:15:40 PM
 :yeah: :tup:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 29, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
Hot dang............. very nice big boy !!!!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: haugenna on September 29, 2011, 10:20:42 PM
Nice mass and nice buck.

Welcome to the site.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: scudmaster on September 29, 2011, 10:25:04 PM
Very Nice, Congrats!
 :tup:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: link on September 29, 2011, 10:36:45 PM
Great buck. Congratulations. I love that cape too.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: bankwalker on September 29, 2011, 10:46:03 PM
Love the pic of Ron glassing. What an amazing view of that valley

Nice buck too.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: brianmtsinc on September 29, 2011, 11:07:57 PM
Great deer and awesome photos!!!   
Thanks for sharing!
Brian
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: GUHunter on September 29, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
Awesome! I recently moved to Wyoming and am sad to have missed the high buck this year......but I have lots of awesome opportunities in my new state.

It's funny you posted this tonight as I have been meaning to call Ron this week to talk about a rifle build.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: PolarBear on September 30, 2011, 12:29:43 AM
Very nice!  Looks like a fun hunt, congratulations!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on September 30, 2011, 12:47:01 AM
Those are a couple of great looking bucks!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: jamesjett on September 30, 2011, 01:21:26 AM
Congrats! Nice bucks!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: b.roberts on September 30, 2011, 01:24:31 AM
Thanks for sharing, beautiful pics.

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Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: jager on September 30, 2011, 01:56:55 AM
Congrats! Beautiful buck!
Looks like a fun hunt!

So... you wanna tell us about your rifle ?
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Nape.257 on September 30, 2011, 02:14:45 AM
Nice buck and shot.

let's here about your gun.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: 3nails on September 30, 2011, 03:59:28 AM
Nice buck and shot.

let's here about your gun.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: jmx369 on September 30, 2011, 04:25:20 AM
Great buck and nice photos too.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: 400out on September 30, 2011, 06:07:43 AM
Nice buck and shot.

let's here about your gun.
X3  :drool:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 30, 2011, 06:13:57 AM
DAMN Nice one to brag about ..... good mass ...big deer what else could a guy want  :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: landcbeitner on September 30, 2011, 06:18:22 AM
The Rifle is a Remington 700 LA (trued up by Benchmark)
AICS Chassis system (heavy)
Benchmark Barrel .277", 1:9 twist, chambered in 270 Winchester, 28" long and fluted with "mini muscle brake" muzzle brake.
Factory trigger tuned down to around 2lbs.
20 MOA base...(can't remember brand)
Leupold Mk IV 4.5-14x50 with TMR reticle and M1 turrets
Seekins rings etc.

This rifle is heavy for hunting.... over 14lbs. with everything including bi-pod and sling. I use this rifle for competitions as well. Did the Field Shooter's Challenge right before the hunt and placed 4th.... not bad considering I also acted as an RO for the match and had to shoot every stage first.

Im shooting Matrix ballistics 165gr bullets. The actual BC is about .650, and I'm shooting them at 2890fps. The ballistics are excellent. In my usual shooting spots it's normal to get first round hits beyond 1200yds (wouln't shoot game that far). I've always loved the 270 winchester. When I got involved in long range shooting, my old 270 just collected dust. When I found out about these new high BC bullets, I knew it was time for another 270 win. Terminal Ballistics were excellent with this bullet, wouldn't hesitate to use them on larger/tougher game either.


Pic from the match
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Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: 400out on September 30, 2011, 06:27:31 AM
Very nice! I know what you mean with the heavy hunting gun, mine loaded hits just under 17 lbs.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: SkookumHntr on September 30, 2011, 06:29:31 AM
-That pic with the Buck in the Scope is Bad Ass!!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: trophyhunt on September 30, 2011, 06:34:09 AM
-That pic with the Buck in the Scope is Bad Ass!!
:yeah: I love those pic's, sweet job. thanks for posting, very nice thick antlers.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: wlandrum on September 30, 2011, 07:40:42 AM
congrats.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Shed Stud on September 30, 2011, 07:42:06 AM
Nice Buck! Love the Mass!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Co on September 30, 2011, 07:59:35 AM
There u are.

Co
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: ldjbuff on September 30, 2011, 10:04:39 AM
Very far shot....


won't post my opinion.


Never the less huge buck
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: sirmissalot on September 30, 2011, 10:58:42 AM
Very far shot....


won't post my opinion.


Never the less huge buck

Seriously? He shoots competition. Look at his gun. Under 500 yards is nothing for that gun, and him, obviously.

Good work man thats a beautiful buck, hope you saved the cape its gorgeous.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 30, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
Really nice buck :drool: !!!! Congrats and welcome to the site
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Huntboy on September 30, 2011, 11:28:45 AM
Nice buck, sweet rifle.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: ldjbuff on September 30, 2011, 11:48:00 AM
Nothing to do with his gun. to me hunting does not involve 500 yard shots...  lots of people will agree with me but people wont say anything.

which is fine
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: jackmaster on September 30, 2011, 11:58:33 AM
Nothing to do with his gun. to me hunting does not involve 500 yard shots...  lots of people will agree with me but people wont say anything.

which is fine
i would agree if you dont know what your doing, with the right equipment and skill why not, as long as you have the savy to walk over ther and check incase you might have missed then no biggie, watched a guy personally that i know his name is john and he cracked an elk at 952 yds one shot and the elk hit the deck didnt even wiggle. so imho if you can with complete comfort i say go for it
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Alchase on September 30, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Love the cheat sheet inside the scope cover  :tup:
 
Beautiful buck!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: jackmaster on September 30, 2011, 12:15:24 PM
i might have asked this already but is that a blacktail, it sure looks like it, but it also has that mule deer look... i am so confused  :yike:  :'(     but damn it looks like a blackie
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: shedcrazy on September 30, 2011, 12:43:04 PM
Great buck! Looks like an awesome hunt. My good friend Chris works for Ron at Benchmark. Great company, they build killer guns!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: ldjbuff on September 30, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
Nothing to do with his gun. to me hunting does not involve 500 yard shots...  lots of people will agree with me but people wont say anything.

which is fine
i would agree if you dont know what your doing, with the right equipment and skill why not, as long as you have the savy to walk over ther and check incase you might have missed then no biggie, watched a guy personally that i know his name is john and he cracked an elk at 952 yds one shot and the elk hit the deck didnt even wiggle. so imho if you can with complete comfort i say go for it


You do have a point
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: lewy on September 30, 2011, 06:03:30 PM
great lookin buck man!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: BuckHunter23 on September 30, 2011, 06:24:07 PM
Sweet buck  :tup:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: blacktaill on September 30, 2011, 07:20:44 PM
Iwill do that some days soon! Very nice deer!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: boneaddict on September 30, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Enjoyed the photo assay as much as the nice buck!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: landcbeitner on September 30, 2011, 07:44:52 PM
It's a mule deer... that would be awesome as a black tail though!

I totaly understand someone's reservations about taking game beyond 300yds... as drop, wind drift, and (at ranges beyond 800) time of flight come into play. I'm a very conservitave long range shooter (or at least I think I am). Just because I can make the shot doesn't mean I'll take it. I could have taken a larger buck at a greater range... due to adverse wind conditions I decided to get closer. I would bet a large sum of money I could have made that shot (in the vitals, not just hitting the buck).... but there was a chance of over/underestimating the wind (it's complicated but the bullet would have gone through an extreme wind for a short distance before dropping back below the canyon walls where the wind was much easier to dope). The clouds moved in and never moved back out... so I wound up taking a smaller buck a coulple days later... that's just hunting.

Here's an article I've written on the issue's involved with long range culture. I would say I agree with the ethics of few long range hunters by percentage (I used to be more optimistic).

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Battle-For-Long-Range-Hunting-Ethics&id=3105384 (http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Battle-For-Long-Range-Hunting-Ethics&id=3105384)

I would be happy to show someone what this rifle is capable of in field conditions at 500yds. I shoot most every weekend when it's not hunting season. I would be shocked if someone could take an average hunting rifle and pop off clay pigeons at regular hunting ranges (within 300yds) the way this rifle is capable at ranges out to and beyond 500yds... especially if steep uphill and downhill shots are taken like what one will usually find on these "high buck hunts". I almost never shoot from a bench.... I've yet to stumble upon a bench rest in the field. If one has not done extensive target shooting with improvised field positions, they would probably greatly overestimate their ability to make good hits on game an thus are likely to take unethical shots.

Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: wilsongideon on September 30, 2011, 07:52:41 PM
Nice Buck. Sweet Gun. Beautiful pictures! looks like you guys earned every inch of country and animal
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: PacificNWhunter on September 30, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
Nicely done!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: BowBender87 on September 30, 2011, 09:12:17 PM
Outstanding...thats a sweet buck  :tup:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Wazzu on September 30, 2011, 09:18:12 PM
Nice work :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: scudmaster on September 30, 2011, 10:40:08 PM
Very nice rig.  IMO you have appear to have earned the right for the long shot. If you are willing to work that hard to become proficient and extend your range, then the shot by definition would be ethical for you.  Same as some people (we all know who they are) who never practice with their rifle except and afternoon to "sight in", should not be shooting past 150 yards.  The "ethics" is determined by skill not distance.  :twocents:

By the way that is a crazy high BC for the bullet, I am going to have to load some up.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: landcbeitner on September 30, 2011, 11:13:39 PM
Ya... I always say, if you can't put the first shot exactly where it's supposed to go, it's too far no matter how close it is. The BC is awesome and with the long barrel I'm running WSM velocities (for a standard length barrel of course). Another buddy of mine is having an identical rifle build for a long range steel team match held near Kettle Falls, WA. Allot of the matches are starting to say no more magnums (they tend to knock down target stands). It's good to find a standard cartridge/bullet combo that offers magnum ballistics.

Here's a buck from pre-season scouting (I was hunting bear at the time plus scouting for bucks)... saw two that were bigger than him, but they didn't bed down to have their picture taken.
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Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: 1buckdown on October 01, 2011, 07:52:29 AM
Great pic's
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: saylean on October 01, 2011, 09:22:06 AM
What a cool lookin buck. Great pics....that pic where a guy is looking over that foggy cragg looks like an entrance to an icy hell. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: deerslyr on October 01, 2011, 09:54:18 AM
Thats a great buck. I cant beleive your getting a 165 grain bullet out of a 270 nearly 2900 fps!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Elkrunner on October 01, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
great buck
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: 7mag. on October 01, 2011, 10:57:37 AM
I saw your post of this hunt on Seattle Guns a while back, and told some of my friends to check it out. That is a nice heavy buck. Good looking rifle too. I really like how you earned that buck. I don't care what anyone says, if you pack into the high country, and take a mature animal, you've earned it, no matter what the range is.
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Clark33 on October 01, 2011, 06:14:09 PM
Dandy buck, cool pics too by the way!
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: Co on October 03, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
 :hello: Mutch better .....   :tup:
Title: Re: Another 2011 High Buck
Post by: scudmaster on October 03, 2011, 08:33:50 PM
There is no load data on the Matrix page.  Do you know if they have any.  Also that is a mighty long bullet, what is the OAL for that load?  Maybe to long for a standard magazine and increased chamber pressure.  Do you load them yourself?
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