Post by: Secret Squirrel on October 04, 2011, 12:30:40 PM
Post by: Hyde on October 04, 2011, 01:19:45 PM
Post by: YellowDog on October 04, 2011, 01:21:44 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 04, 2011, 01:45:10 PM
Post by: longrangekiller on October 04, 2011, 01:46:33 PM
Post by: CplRaines on October 04, 2011, 05:15:04 PM
Depends on where and when you are gonna hunt.
If you hunt late seasons when you are gonna be wet most of the time like I do, a travel trailer doesn't cut it in my opinion. Tough to dry out and dry your clothes in a trailer.
But in a wall tent with wood stove, drying is easy. ;)
Post by: netcoyote on October 04, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
On the second trip we camped in the same area but a little lower elevation and used a wall tent. We rigged up a separate cook tent outside the living quarters. This worked out pretty well. We didn't have the amenities but I didn't miss all the hassles of dealing with an RV.
If you are not expecting sub-freezing temperatures during your trip, it's probably a toss-up. There are some places that are harder to get to with an RV and if you get it in to camp and then a snow storm dumps on you, better make sure you can still haul out. That gravel road you drove in on can be a sheet of ice coming out.
Bottom line is that there is no perfect solution. You have to weigh all the factors of your trip before you decide.
Post by: losdaddy7 on October 04, 2011, 06:05:18 PM
Trailers are great for many conditions, although not all. There have been quite a few years where we've seen weather come in and all the trailers packup and head down low rather than risk a treacherous drive down the mountain. As has been said before, it depends where you hunt and when.
Now, with a wall tent, as far as I'm concerned, the options are pretty unlimited. You don't have to worry about roads for the trailer or sub-zero temps. You can also pack in with a wall tent and go with a log frame setup.
If you want the most options for future years, my preference would be a wall tent. Anywhere, anytime.....
:)
Post by: Chadrick60 on October 04, 2011, 07:10:48 PM
Okay...so I am thinking that I need some new digs for my hunting camps, do I get a wall tent or a travel trailer. Who has what and what is your experience with them and hidden drawbacks?Squirrel, I have a 2005 KZ Sportsman. 20ft travel trailer. Short enough to get it up in the woods and just as much ground clearance as a 3/4 ton truck. insulated with REAL insulation and the plumbing is all inside. Never had a problem taking it camping or hunting wherever I wanted to go.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 05, 2011, 06:26:02 PM
But there are times when I want a wall tent. :chuckle:
Often though:....
Post by: Chadrick60 on October 05, 2011, 07:20:18 PM
Some times it's just a Bivy bag and tarp.:chuckle: :IBCOOL: :yeah:
But there are times when I want a wall tent. :chuckle:
Often though:....
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 05, 2011, 07:23:55 PM
Some times it's just a Bivy bag and tarp.
But there are times when I want a wall tent. :chuckle:
Often though:....
that probably has more sq footage than most members homes! :chuckle:
Post by: TheHunt on October 05, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
Post by: YellowDog on October 05, 2011, 10:55:06 PM
I'm planning on buying a toyhauler this spring and was wondering if your trailer is 20' overall length or is it more like 24' overall? Just curious to see if the overall length is close to what I am looking at since you said you don't have any problem getting to where you want. I'm looking at a 21-22 that is actually closer to 26' overall lengthOkay...so I am thinking that I need some new digs for my hunting camps, do I get a wall tent or a travel trailer. Who has what and what is your experience with them and hidden drawbacks?Squirrel, I have a 2005 KZ Sportsman. 20ft travel trailer. Short enough to get it up in the woods and just as much ground clearance as a 3/4 ton truck. insulated with REAL insulation and the plumbing is all inside. Never had a problem taking it camping or hunting wherever I wanted to go.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 06, 2011, 08:00:59 AM
By the way... My photo above is an illusion with an extended cab long bed truck. The trailer is only 29' long. (Turns like it's a 50' refer though.)
-Steve
Post by: Chadrick60 on October 06, 2011, 04:28:57 PM
I think I am like 23' overall. I am also going to buy a 30' Raptor toyhauler in the next year or two. But I will miss this little guy. It has been great to me. I have had it since new and it has never leaked or gave me any trouble. Trying to convince the wife I should keep it for the guys trips.I'm planning on buying a toyhauler this spring and was wondering if your trailer is 20' overall length or is it more like 24' overall? Just curious to see if the overall length is close to what I am looking at since you said you don't have any problem getting to where you want. I'm looking at a 21-22 that is actually closer to 26' overall lengthOkay...so I am thinking that I need some new digs for my hunting camps, do I get a wall tent or a travel trailer. Who has what and what is your experience with them and hidden drawbacks?Squirrel, I have a 2005 KZ Sportsman. 20ft travel trailer. Short enough to get it up in the woods and just as much ground clearance as a 3/4 ton truck. insulated with REAL insulation and the plumbing is all inside. Never had a problem taking it camping or hunting wherever I wanted to go.
Post by: MHWASH on October 07, 2011, 06:13:59 AM
Trailer length is normally measured from the tongue/hitch attachment to the rear bumper. Many fifthwheels have a bit of forward overhang.
By the way... My photo above is an illusion with an extended cab long bed truck. The trailer is only 29' long. (Turns like it's a 50' refer though.)
-Steve
Sometime in the late '90s the trailer makers started measuring just the living space. Basically a 24' trailer went to a 20' foot trailer. Just keep it in mind when looking.
Post by: Hurricane on October 07, 2011, 06:29:10 AM
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Post by: high country on October 09, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
Post by: Tinner on October 09, 2011, 09:03:40 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 09, 2011, 04:01:35 PM
I watched the rodeo as all the trailers tried to get off timberwolf one elk season........not a fun time for a few. We weathered the storm in the tent and came out later on chains.
I've seen rigs chain up and together and creap out of the Panther creek 4 corners cross roads area after Elk season. I keep chains for the trailer and all four wheels for the truck from fall through winter.
-Steve
Post by: high country on October 09, 2011, 05:26:53 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 10, 2011, 09:58:49 AM
I realllllly like wood heat......and 18 miles to the gallon loaded.
I really like wood heat. But I also like a queen bed I can stretch out on, running water, lights at the flick of a switch, no mice, refrigerated foods, a shower at the end of the week, ... All at 16mpg loaded. The list goes on.
But I think I'd like to have a wall tent too. :chuckle:
-Steve
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 10, 2011, 10:09:36 AM
Post by: TheHunt on October 10, 2011, 10:19:35 AM
He drove it up to Kerny horse camp at the top of Blewet pass for a horse back riding weekend and those switch backs caused him to some nervous times.
Post by: high country on October 10, 2011, 12:10:58 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 10, 2011, 01:07:49 PM
Steve....stop believing the trip computer. if Ford made trucks that got 16 mpg loaded we would have a fleet of them.:jacked:
I don't have a trip computer. I do the math every time I put 36 gallons of fuel in the 38 gallon tank. (Yes, fuel economy does drop a bit (~1mpg) for hiway 20 because of the turns/incline, but most anywhere else in the state I can get 16mpg loaded with 29' trailer easily if I keep my foot out of it. (62mph) (tough for me to do sometimes) Eastern Wa with a good quartering cross or head wind can affect any rig's fuel economy, but without wind... Not an issue. Best has been 21mpg empty Lynden to Kelso and back. Otherwise, 19mpg empty is the norm on the highway. On summer fuel I get 17+mpg driving daily when I can keep my foot out of it. (winter fuel is less) I have a rural commute. With the ZF6spd I do tow in overdrive. Zoodad cold air intake mod, 4" downpipe and 4" straight exhaust. No chip.
Not all 6.0 Fords are junk. But the Cummins or the Ford 7.3s are known for better fuel economy. I hear that the 6.4's really drop the ball when it comes to fuel economy. I don't know anyone with a DuraIsusu that makes good fuel mileage claims. As far as needing a fleet of them... How many employee/drivers drive like they are paying for the fuel?
-Steve
Post by: Secret Squirrel on October 11, 2011, 03:45:31 PM
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Post by: MHWASH on October 14, 2011, 07:01:58 AM
Post by: Rooster1981 on October 14, 2011, 08:02:26 AM
This really comes down to how you hunt, and whats exceptable for comfort. I have hunted out of both and will never give up my wall tent. I sold my trailer a couple years ago and dont plan on buying another one. In fact I am planning on buying another tent, this time the 12x20. I like the tents because I feel that i get more freedom of where i can set up camp, and where I can hunt. If I want to tow my horse trailer and take the horses I just trow the tent in the bed of the truck and go. I love the wood stove, I had never been so warm and comfortable while hunting before I had a wood stove. Rain, wind, snow, doesn't matter if you buy a good quality tent, which are about 1/4 the cost of a nice used trailer.
Post by: Secret Squirrel on October 19, 2011, 11:08:25 AM
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