Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: vandeman17 on October 06, 2011, 01:25:51 PM
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We are going to Idaho for the deer opener and if you didn't know, hunter orange is not required there but it is highly recommended. My question is, would you still wear it? I am not sure what I am going to do. My backback has a piece of orange that you can pull out of a pocket and I might do that until we get a little ways from the road or if we get a deer down. What would you guys do? :dunno:
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During rifle season. you bet! There re far too many gomers out there taking long range pot shots at anything that is dark in color and moves. :twocents:
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absofrickenlutely
especially in idaho ;)
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I might wear my orange vest but I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure it's visible at all times. For instance if my backpack covered the entire back half of it I woudln't worry about it. And if I had to put a rain coat over the top of it I would do that too. Sure would be nice not to have to worry about always having 400 square inches of orange showing.
Basically the only reason I would wear my orange vest is because I like having all the pockets. I sometimes wear it instead of a pack, because I can carry quite a bit of stuff just in the back pouch of my vest.
If you end up hunting in a place where you don't feel safe due to bullets going every which way, I'd find a different place to hunt.
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During rifle season. you bet! There re far too many gomers out there taking long range pot shots at anything that is dark in color and moves. :twocents:
:yeah:
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I just wear an orange baseball hat in no orange required states.
If I'm in an area where I'm pretty confident none to not many others are, I don't even do the orange hat.
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I've shot plenty of deer during rifle season while wearing orange and can't think of a valid reason why not to wear it. The deer won't know the difference. The other hunters will. :twocents:
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Personally I wouldn't wear it, but it sure wouldn't be a bad idea and its not going to make a difference on a deer seeing you or not (in most cases). I always pack a lightweight vest in my pack for when I get a deer down, for several reasons.
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For me, part of the reason I don't want to wear it is I don't really like other hunters knowing where I am. I like to get a long way off the roads so I am not as worried about it being crawling with hunters but I like the idea of playing it by ear and seeing if I see many other hunters where we are hunting and going from there.
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I might wear my orange vest but I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure it's visible at all times. For instance if my backpack covered the entire back half of it I woudln't worry about it. And if I had to put a rain coat over the top of it I would do that too. Sure would be nice not to have to worry about always having 400 square inches of orange showing.
Basically the only reason I would wear my orange vest is because I like having all the pockets. I sometimes wear it instead of a pack, because I can carry quite a bit of stuff just in the back pouch of my vest.
If you end up hunting in a place where you don't feel safe due to bullets going every which way, I'd find a different place to hunt.
GOOD CALL
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Moving I'd wear it. While hunkerd in, I opt out as to be a little les visable to the crowds.
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Moving I'd wear it. While hunkerd in, I opt out as to be a little les visable to the crowds.
That is exactly what I was thinking. When I am moving, I will be wearing my backpack and I will leave the orange flap out and when I sit down to glass I will make sure it isn't visible. The majority of my days will most likely be spent on top of ridges sitting and glassing
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Atleast wear an orange hat, maybe with a camo blend, when peaking over a skyline a guy may mistake your head for a yote. i know this because it happened to me. half the people that rifle hunt maybe more than half are friggin idiots.
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I would all you rifle hunters are loco
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I am also a bowhunter but not all my buddies bow hunt so we opted for rifle on this hunt. :tup:
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For me, part of the reason I don't want to wear it is I don't really like other hunters knowing where I am. I like to get a long way off the roads so I am not as worried about it being crawling with hunters but I like the idea of playing it by ear and seeing if I see many other hunters where we are hunting and going from there.
Basically, that's exactly what I do.
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I might wear my orange vest but I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure it's visible at all times. For instance if my backpack covered the entire back half of it I woudln't worry about it. And if I had to put a rain coat over the top of it I would do that too. Sure would be nice not to have to worry about always having 400 square inches of orange showing.
Basically the only reason I would wear my orange vest is because I like having all the pockets. I sometimes wear it instead of a pack, because I can carry quite a bit of stuff just in the back pouch of my vest.
If you end up hunting in a place where you don't feel safe due to bullets going every which way, I'd find a different place to hunt.
:yeah:, i hate wearing the stuff and never do in the bush but i will if i am on the roads or if i am around a clearcut and get that feeling that eyes are watching me or a scope for that matter, there are some bonified *censored*s out there that think they should scope everything instead of using binos :twocents:
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After reading all your posts I think my decision is to just use my little bit off my pack for when I am moving then put it away when I am sitting and glassing. If I am seeing alot of hunters or get that feeling like I am being watched then I will put it on more often. :tup:
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Definatley not. Ive been scoped by too many *censored*es that don't carry binoculars only because they saw my orange and wanted to see what I was doin . Had that happen too many times when hunting with a rifle in washington. Quit wearin it and it never happened again, then I just went to archery and never had to worry.
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maybe i'm weird but I always appreciate it when other hunters wear orange- It lets me know where they are so I don't come stomping through their area.
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I would wear orange to protect myself. You see on hunting shows only the hunter has orange on -- why? I don't want to get shot and there is always one shooter that does not know what he is shooting at. I make anyone walking with me while I'm hunting wear orange. I put orange on during modern firearm season while riding horse to protect me my horse and the whole group.
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When we hunted in oregon we didn't need to wear orange. I had a red b-ball cap on and thats it. We were hunting blacktails in the high country with very little pressure. If there was more people It would depend on where the days hunt took me.
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Nope
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Too many stories about idiots shooting people thinking they were animals........ wear the orange.
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Heck yeah, I'd wear orange. I value my life more than not wearing orange and waiting for someone to "think" I look like a big bear. :) :chuckle:
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I also would wear atleast a bit of orange.. too many stories of people getting shot just hiking thru...during gen rifle i wear orange hat, vest and have orange on my pack...made plenty of stalks and have got very close, just keep the wind in your face and you'll be fine, and a lil bit safer..haha...good luck!
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Nah...fluorescent pink is better :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: especially in Idaho
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We were orange in Idaho. Cant tell you how many times I have seen a quad or guy moving along a road from a ways away in the snow and I stop quickly to see if its an animal. Some people may see that and not think twice about raising their rifle. its not worth it
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Personally I don't.
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I always did
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In Idaho I keep a vest in my pack but wear it at low light in the morning and then again coming out at night. But truly, if I'm worried about getting killed, I never should have driven to my spot because your probably 10,000 x more likely to get hurt in a wreck than to get shot in the woods.
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WEAR THE ORANGE!!! I had a buddy who was shot and killed about 6 years ago while hunting in Idaho on his family’s property. He and his hunting partner that evening were supposed to be the only hunters on the property. Another hunter (not supposed to be there) on the last evening of rifle season had mistaken him for a deer right at dusk and shot him while he was walking across a field on his way back to the truck. Plus my buddy was even wearing a small orange vest. Unless archery hunting I would wear lots of orange at all times regardless which state I am hunting. I personally have not rifle hunted since. Deer will not notice the difference, although another hunter will. It is not worth the risk. We all know there are plenty of ethical hunters out there, although it only takes that one unethical hunter to make a that one mistake. Even hunting on private property does not justify not wearing hunter orange, because believe it or not people ignore the law and trespass all the time. :bdid: Good luck out there guys & gals and be safe!!! :tup:
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WEAR THE ORANGE!!! I had a buddy who was shot and killed about 6 years ago while hunting in Idaho on his family’s property. He and his hunting partner that evening were supposed to be the only hunters on the property. Another hunter (not supposed to be there) on the last evening of rifle season had mistaken him for a deer right at dusk and shot him while he was walking across a field on his way back to the truck. Plus my buddy was even wearing a small orange vest. Unless archery hunting I would wear lots of orange at all times regardless which state I am hunting. I personally have not rifle hunted since. Deer will not notice the difference, although another hunter will. It is not worth the risk. We all know there are plenty of ethical hunters out there, although it only takes that one unethical hunter to make a that one mistake. Even hunting on private property does not justify not wearing hunter orange, because believe it or not people ignore the law and trespass all the time. :bdid: Good luck out there guys & gals and be safe!!! :tup:
We read about this sort of incident in N. Idaho about every other year. Many are stories similar to this. There was a story in the last few years not far from Lake Coeur d'Alene, just like mentioned above. Not sure if they are the same tragic incident or not.
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that story definatly makes a guy think thats for sure, i know i make my son wear his all the time i guess i should follow suit after all i guess i aint settn a good example by only maken him wear it all the time and i only wear it sometimes, i just hate wearing it when i am by myself in some crap hole thick jungle beacause of the way the orange glares off of the vegitation, but i always do have on my red wool plaid huntn coat and if a hunter cant tell me apart from a deer then that really sucks, but from this point on whenever i am with my son i will be wearing it all the time, thanks for the idaho story. :tup:
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So much to think about and evaluate. It really comes down to the idea, is it worth the risk...? :o
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(whacker1) This incident occurred about 5-10 miles south of Plummer, ID which is not to far from Lake Coeur d’ Alene. So, I image it was the same story you read about. Very sad deal …
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In a past i did work with a guy who was from Idaho he told me a story how him and his body was hunting there one time,
his body was almost shot that day even they where hunting on horses a guy from CA decided that they where elk and he
open fire and shot the horse his body was on.
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This is why whenever I take my horses into the woods during hunting season they are decked out in orange! My daughter and I are getting back into the hunting on horseback thing and I make damn sure that she is as visible and the noon time sun!
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This is why whenever I take my horses into the woods during hunting season they are decked out in orange! My daughter and I are getting back into the hunting on horseback thing and I make damn sure that she is as visible and the noon time sun!
that's smart :yeah:
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I would wear the orange.
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Yep. I can hunt year after year wearing orange but probably only get shot once.
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Makes no sense why you wouldn't wear it. For those that say they don't want other hunters to know their spots, that's how you get shot. Some moron who happens upon your secret hiding hole and sees something move, mistakes the branches around you for antlers and fires. Sad to say, but there are plenty of morons in this world, and several of them will be carrying high powered rifles in the woods next week. If anything, the orange should help deter that from happening. I'd be willing to bet that 99.9% of the time the orange would keep you from ever ending up in someone's scope to begin with. And as many have said, the deer can't tell the difference. They should be the least of your worries. It's a no brainer if you ask me. :twocents:
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That's a good way to look at it, if its something you absolutely will make your kids do then you should probably do the same. I'm guilty in this subject, and the same should go with seatbelts (once again, guilty) lead by example. Nobody wants to die this way, and nobody wants to lose family or friends this tragic way. A good thing can turn in to a nightmare in a hurry, that could be avoidable.
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That's a good way to look at it, if its something you absolutely will make your kids do then you should probably do the same. I'm guilty in this subject, and the same should go with seatbelts (once again, guilty) lead by example. Nobody wants to die this way, and nobody wants to lose family or friends this tragic way. A good thing can turn in to a nightmare in a hurry, that could be avoidable.
I got more diligent about wearing the seat belt when my son started asking me "Daddy aren't you going to put on your seat belt?" That is hard to say no to..... Now it is habit
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If the rifles are out I wear orange, have a net vest that breaths I can put on over any clothes and be comfortable why (I have been shot at two times).
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like others have said i dont see a reason why you wouldnt wear it. if a hunter sees you sitting in your spot while you are wearing orange they are probably more likely to not stumble thru the area you are hunting. if they glass an area that looks good and dont see you because youre wearing all camo there is a better chance they will walk thru, ruining your hunt. when i see another hunter i try and make sure they know im there so i dont startle them, and maybe they will move out of the area since i beat them to it.
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If you your single guy.... you can afford to be selfish...dont wear it :IBCOOL:...
If you have a family wear it..... cause then its not all about you. :tup:
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Like was said before to many irresponsible hunters out there some of them walking with safety off all the time and don't have bino
with them they use scope to see what is moving on that clear cut, they look at you through the scope with safety off :yike: :bdid:
I use my vest even at shooting range, you never know :yeah:
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Maybe the safest thing to do would be to just stay home! :chuckle:
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to me, an animal isnt worth the loss of my hunting friends, family, or myself, i would stick with the orange
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I would like to share a personal experience with you. It makes me tremble even 40 years later just to read my own story. Please consider what you can become involved in a flash moment.
One foggy October morning, I was sitting in an old tree stand overlooking an old Pioneer Apple Orchard along the Gas Pipeline on the Fort Lewis Military Reservation. This area had shown a lot of promise, and I had seen a couple nice bucks in the Orchard when I was on night patrol in the area. As the sun began to shine though the fog, I noticed a bit of "steam" rising up from under one of the trees. Immediately, I went on point. Further examination of the steam found me looking at a brown subject. I became increasingly on alert and assumed that there was a deer laying under that apple tree. I was using my 30-30 rifle with no scope and I did not have bino's with me, which was a stupid thing. Suddenly, the sun glinted off a brown object below the steam. I then just knew there was buck lying under the tree. WRONG. Suddenly, a woman came around behind the tree carrying a basket. She was picking apples while her man sat under the tree smoking his pipe. A sick feeling came over me and I immediately left the tree stand and went home. I had hunter orange on, which is mandatory for rifle hunters in Washington, but they did not. Fortunately, for them I was an experienced person and a law enforcement officer. Although I did not talk to them, because I did not have a reason to, other than common sense, they never knew how close they were to a tragedy. Not everyone in the field hunting is experienced, or a law enforcement person. There are folks out there that will blow away anything that moves. Chances are however, that if that moving person had on
orange, they would not be in much danger. We as experienced hunters know that we would not shoot at someone just because they were moving. Using my story above the apple orchard proved to me that there are a set of circumstances that we can get into and become involved in something that could be avoided. I liken the lack of a visible hunter to a person who drives in the dark or at dusk without lights on their car. They can see you, but you can't see them. So my friends, please wear whatever you choose to wear, and face whatever the consequences. I do support the notion that if hunters have to wear orange, so should everyone else out there during hunting seasons. Sorry for this long disertation, but I felt compelled to impart my experience to you. Be safe out there, and good luck hunting. Thanks. Muskrat
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yes i wood recommend wearing some and when get away from the crowd and are huntin in some backwood honeyhole dtch it but keep it close be safe have a great hunt just as important as hunter orange know your area and carry maps and compasses and gear if you git stuck out over nite
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I always have orange hanging off my pack. Doesnt matter what I am hunting. I even wear it when fishing in the high country during bear season. Mainly I am worried about some yahoo, shooting at me when busting brush.
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since most places have three point or better laws i don't think its necessary unless you have a deer head on your pack.
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since most places have three point or better laws i don't think its necessary unless you have a deer head on your pack.
I disagree - there are a lot of doe tags, and more importantly - people that aren't good in the judgement arena.
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absofrickenlutely
especially in idaho ;)
:yeah:
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I just don't get why all these people are so scared. You better not eat hotdogs because percentages show you are 1,978 times more likely to die choking to death on a hotdog than to get accidentily shot in the woods. The odds are astronomicaly small.
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NO. Not required where I come from but recommended. I do carry a blaze orange mesh vest in my backpack in case of an emergency, easier for Search & Rescue to spot from the air.
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I've shot plenty of deer during rifle season while wearing orange and can't think of a valid reason why not to wear it. The deer won't know the difference. The other hunters will. :twocents:
Yeah Thats right Cedar Pants.....You want to see orange go to Pennsylvania or anywhere back east and you can see orange dots for as far as you can see and they shoot the sheet out of deer ..I have had deer stand inches from me with orange on and they never knew the difference until they got wind of me then they would take off ..... :twocents:
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I wear my lucky orange hat during ML season here in WA at all times...... Just me though..... I've only ever seen two other hunter in the last 11 years during a ML season without modern overlap wear any type of orange...... And still most hunters will walk right past me without a clue I'm there..... :chuckle:
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I just don't get why all these people are so scared. You better not eat hotdogs because percentages show you are 1,978 times more likely to die choking to death on a hotdog than to get accidentily shot in the woods. The odds are astronomicaly small.
I don't know how many been choked by eating hot dog in a past 3 years here in WA but one lady been shot for sure. I was at shooting range when kid almost shot a guy who still taking care of his targets down the range, and to me its not only to get shot but not to shoot someone else as well. any way just me :twocents: