Post by: fishingnut71 on October 08, 2011, 05:07:22 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on October 08, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
Im new to the muzzy thing. right now im modern but want to switch over and dont know where to start. any help out to you great folks?
I can answer this one very easy but, you have to remember that I am totally biased... Knight DISC Extreme with a Western Kit...
This is what I wrote the other day in response to a question much like yours...
OK… but remember this is just my personal opinion, which in my house seems to carry no weight at all!
Knight over TC… for me this one is not to difficult… The only TC that would be legal to hunt with during ML season is a slow 1/48 twist in the bore. Not that the 1/48 is that bad but it can limit what you can shoot effectively – so I pass on that. If you were able to use a regular TC like a Triumph to hunt with vs. Knight – that would be a little tougher decision but again one I could easily make as I have both guns and much prefer the Knight.
Now then… Big Horn vs. DISC Extreme… There are several reasons that I prefer the DISC vs. the Big Horn and it has nothing to do with accuracy as both guns are or can be deadly accurate. For me it comes down to two main things… Reliability and versatility, and again remember this is just my opinion, I much prefer the semi-closed breech area the DISC provides vs. the large open breech area of the Big Horn. As an example I would offer this scenario… when I hunt with the Big Horn, or MK 85 in my case, I always have to pay attention to what debris have fallen into the open breech. It is so easy for that area to collect many things such as Tamarack needles, pieces of small sticks, rain, snow, and etc. I can bet you can think of some other stuff that could/can get in that area while hunting. Then! Will any of these interfere with the action of the hammer and possibly stop ignition.
With the DISC most of these problems are gone with the semi-closed breech area. In addition if you get the correct #11 nipple and have the cap installed correctly on the nipple you are almost water proof. Any worry out the door. The other thing the new Western bolt with the bolt hood provides even more protection to the breech area…
In this picture you can see how much more protected the breech area is but yet complies with Washington, Idaho, and Oregon rules…
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FP1010014.jpg&hash=da3cd154ab3e2a545c4ac3ae735f9c99f5f1163b)
I also believe the DISC offers you the versatility to change the gun back to 209 ignition, drop a scope on and have a viable ML that can be used in other seasons… (I am thinking that Washington has other draw opportunities for ML hunts and you can use a more modern ML). I do not even hunt with a centerfire any longer just tack up my DISC to a modern ML and I hunt rifle season with it…
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2F9-23ElkGun.jpg&hash=3b1021dc99745904aa9dbb576278457e357b175a)
Hope some of this helps… any other questions just give a shout…
mike
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Post by: fishingnut71 on October 08, 2011, 07:31:30 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 08, 2011, 08:13:25 PM
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Post by: Kowsrule30 on October 09, 2011, 10:05:38 AM
Post by: fair-chase on October 09, 2011, 01:39:43 PM
I like the more traditional look and feel of an underhammer but the advantages of an inline like removeable plug, direct cap charge into the powder column, and really fast lock time. Also nice and light with a variety of sight options, I had a scope rail mounted with a dovetail to put my peep into. .50 cal.
Lokidog, if you like that you should check out R.J. Renners underhammers after he left Pacific Rifle Company. They are some mighty fine weapons but do have a huge sticker shock when looking at the prices compared to Blue Grouse. As in at least 3x the cost of a BG. Not sure if it's worth it but I'm a sucker for quality wood on rifles.
http://rjrenner.blogspot.com/ (http://rjrenner.blogspot.com/)
While I have yet to drop any coin at Blue Grouse, I have spoken with him on many occasions and found them to be one of the most helpfull customer (even pre customer) oriented companies out there. Can't say enough good things about all of the information they are willing to share to make sure you are completely informed and satisfied.
Post by: head hunter on October 11, 2011, 07:43:03 AM
Post by: huntnnw on October 11, 2011, 10:46:46 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 11, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
T/C blackdiamond 50cal was the best IMHO...no longer made :dunno: atleast I have one:yeah:
knights disc extreme rules the roost now. :twocents: