Post by: bigtex on October 19, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
My poll/question is do you think WDFW should allow the "leftover" permits to be sold over the counter to whoever purchases them first?
For example for the 2011 season there were 342 deer permits that were not awarded to hunters. Those include 3 buck, 3 disabled, 10 youth, and 326 second deer permits. There were 133 elk permits not awarded; 20 antlerless, and 113 master hunter most of which are second elk permits.
It seems like some WDFW is losing out on $ by simply not allowing these permits to be used. There are also some people who don't know their hunting season availability until after the permit application period.
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
I think I will vote to keep it the same. This is essentially becasue I don't think there are any, and we'd have to waste money to contract with an outside vendor to run such a sale, a waste in wildlife dollars.
Post by: bigtex on October 19, 2011, 01:14:38 PM
Do you really think there are leftover permits?
Read my post. There were several hundred left over permits...
Post by: jackmaster on October 19, 2011, 01:15:30 PM
Post by: bigtex on October 19, 2011, 01:21:34 PM
bigtex i am confused because in all the permit categories, there are people putn in for permits so how would there be any leftovers, i can see why there are alot of second deer permits, but what area are the youth permits for that didnt get drawn, or the elk, or are these the type of permits where they give out 100 and only say 50 people put in for, just curious sorry if i have confused the hell out of you
No problem. Here is the site to see the actual allocation of leftover permits:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/)
To answer your question the youth deer permits that didn't meet it's quota number and had leftover permits were 1548 Wannacut, 1549 Pogue, 1550 Chiliwist, 1551 Alta. The antlerless elk were 2282 & 2283 Couse
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 19, 2011, 01:23:13 PM
Post by: jackmaster on October 19, 2011, 01:27:22 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2011, 01:31:14 PM
I think if they did something liek a first come first serve basis then I suppose. If it involved a second draw, I wouldn't waste my time.
Post by: bigtex on October 19, 2011, 01:32:36 PM
Sorry Bigtex, I was Poaching time here at work, and just read your poll not your explanation. My bad. I'll hav e to dwell.
I think if they did something liek a first come first serve basis then I suppose. If it involved a second draw, I wouldn't waste my time.
I forgive you :chuckle:
And I agree, first come first serve only. No second draw.
Post by: jmx369 on October 27, 2011, 01:23:25 PM
I think he's saying that in certain categories there are more permits than applicants, so the draw odds are 100% AND there are 'unwanted?' permits. I would say, sell them. BUT sell them at permit cost plus application cost, so it would be the same price as those that actually did the drawing.
:yeah:
Post by: Special T on October 27, 2011, 02:10:53 PM
I like venision, but if i get the hankering to shoot a second doe then i'll buy some beef steak and take the bow tot he club, grillem up and walk the course! :archery_smiley: :cue:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2011, 02:19:46 PM
Post by: Special T on October 27, 2011, 02:28:34 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2011, 02:30:12 PM
P-man I think you might be givig them too much credit...
LOL, could very well be doing just that. You know they keep us MHs around for the propaganda value.
Post by: lokidog on October 27, 2011, 02:43:25 PM
I say allow the purchase of tags, HOWEVER I think a LOT of 2nd DOE tags are goning to remain unfilled. I know for a fact that out in the islands there are not that many people willing to sport $60 to kill an island doe. So they can offer those up if they want, but there will still be a 100% draw on some of the islands. :twocents:
I like venision, but if i get the hankering to shoot a second doe then i'll buy some beef steak and take the bow tot he club, grillem up and walk the course! :archery_smiley: :cue:
Took the words out of my mouth. Also, a lot of the islands are mostly to all private land.
Leave it the way it is.
Post by: oldcamper on October 29, 2011, 11:44:32 PM