Post by: DoubleJ on October 20, 2011, 07:19:06 PM
What's your thoughts?
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Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 30, 2012, 08:53:02 AM
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 30, 2012, 09:04:48 AM
Post by: NWBREW on September 30, 2012, 09:13:14 AM
Idk if it works, im not a believer since i bought the predator hunting scent and the cow elk estrous scent and it smells exactly the same :dunno:
No offence....but your nose may not be as fined tuned to scents as the critters in the woods. :chuckle:
I hunt whitetails and have used a couple of brands over the years. For the last 8 years or so I only use a certain brand now. I do believe there are good and bad...or should I say ones that work better.
I do not have anything to add as far blacktail scents.
Post by: PolarBear on September 30, 2012, 09:19:33 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on September 30, 2012, 10:12:21 AM
yesterday i started a thread in bear hunting about scent, seems very few bother or think about it :dunno:
I think the effectiveness of cover scent is different than the effectiveness of lure scent
Post by: Chesapeake on September 30, 2012, 03:08:45 PM
My favorite is the code blue single deer stuff. Blacktails don't seem to care that its a whitetail scent.
The code blue doesn't smell like the moccasin joe brown sludge.....
Post by: singleshot12 on September 30, 2012, 03:34:08 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on September 30, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
On their website they are all about supporting "privately owned hunting ranches" and talk all about them on links and "about us" ect.... Couldn't find anything about blacktails in captivity. They sure are proud of their plastic bottles.
I used the stuff for years and it seemed to work. The modern late buck season it seemed to get some deers attention. Killed a buck or two using it in combo with grunts, doe bleats, and sometimes rattling.
I really don't understand their claims of all natural no preservatives and yet no expiration date. I'd think piss and poop sludge would go south pretty quickly. Wonder if they pasteurize it or something.
Interesting stuff...... Snake oil....
Post by: singleshot12 on October 01, 2012, 07:03:57 AM
Where do they have these black tails in captivity? I always wondered that.
Wonder if they pasteurize it or something.
A retired biologist told me there is a blacktail research center some where in Oregon where the piss is collected.
I think if sealed in the bottle and not exposed to oxygen it doesn't go rancid. Even if it does smell bad the only ingredient a buck hones in on is the hint of estrus.
Post by: Alchase on October 01, 2012, 08:02:56 AM
Where do they have these black tails in captivity? I always wondered that.
Wonder if they pasteurize it or something.
A retired biologist told me there is a blacktail research center some where in Oregon where the piss is collected.
I think if sealed in the bottle and not exposed to oxygen it doesn't go rancid. Even if it does smell bad the only ingredient a buck hones in on is the hint of estrus.
I read an article in Time magazine a few years back that hit the nail on the head with the blatant fraud in consumer products. The best example they gave was, you guest it, Tinks doe in estrus.
Here are some things to think about, they sell millions of little bottle of what they call doe urine. The problem is you would have to have a herd of does in the 6 figures, that's 10s of thousands to equal what they sell just in the months of August through November.
Now remember does are in estrus for only a couple months a year.
So where is all the urine coming from? But it's 100% natural :dunno:
The article compared Doe urine to the "Hoodia" craze, where in just 2008 the amount of products sold supposedly with hoodia in them just in the United States alone, would have completely depleted the worlds supply of Hoodia. Now add every other country and every other year and the picture gets a little more clear.
Nothing will cover your scent, no charcoal based clothing or spray will take your scent away.
Can they act as an attractant? Probably, but so can apples.