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Title: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: Hyde on October 21, 2011, 08:54:30 AM
Can you give your assessment of the polymer rotary magazine in the X Bolt?  Is it ok, great, excellent?  Do the rounds feed nicely?  How easy is it to remove the magazine?  Is there ANY way that a big thumbed guy could accidentally release the mag without wanting to?

I'm considering one for a new westside deer/bear rifle.  If you had your choice ONLY between the 308 and the 7mm-08, which would you choose, and why.  I know there are plenty of great calibers, but I was leaning towards the 308 for a little more punch if a bear comes along.  I know the 7-08 is an excellent caliber too.  I sure wished they made the left hand X-bolt in stainless.  Oh well, another rifle off for a Rogaurd treatment.

Thanks in advance....

Steve
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: thinkingman on October 21, 2011, 09:10:28 AM
You see that listing on SeattleGuns?
I have no experience with Browning rifles, but it seems attractive.
I do have a Tikka 7-08 and I'd sell my Tikka 300WSM before the 7-08.
Perfect cartridge for anything under 500lbs that doesn't intend to do you harm.
Reloaders dream.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: dannysdaddy on October 21, 2011, 09:27:16 AM
never had a problem with the magazine on mine.  I would go with the .308 simply for costs and shooting distances. 
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: krism83 on October 21, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
You will find that the 7-08 is going to travel flatter and is better for reloading and easy on your brass. It has a touch less recoil and tend to be shooter friendly for everyone from beginners to experienced users. The .308 will offer better punch for bear and larger game at the price of increased recoil and price per round. That being said, I prefer my .308 over the 7mm-08's that I have fired, personal preference I suppose.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: BigGoonTuna on October 21, 2011, 04:58:52 PM
if you're having trouble deciding then flip a coin.  i went with the 7-08 mainly because i couldn't find the model of rifle i wanted in 308 on any store's racks when i was shopping(of course i found one a couple weeks later but i've since fallen in love with the caliber i picked).

prvi partizan ammo is $16.99 a box of 20 at cabelas, sometimes going on sale even cheaper.  the stuff groups like match ammo out of my rifle :chuckle:
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 22, 2011, 06:10:31 PM
Don't own a browning rifle so can't help there. Of the 2 guns listed 7mm-08 all day long. They are very close but The 7mm-08 is a little flatter shooting when you figure the avg bullet for it is 140g and the 308 is 165g. What ever the 308 can do the 7mm-08 can do as well.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: landcbeitner on October 23, 2011, 06:30:16 PM
+1 for 7-08
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: RB on October 23, 2011, 06:42:57 PM
Do not own an X-bolt but when looking at calibers I look at availability of ammo can you walk into a mom and pop gun/tackle shop in a small town in the back woods and get a box of 7mm-08 when you left your ammo at home? 308 is on every shelf in america and several different bullet weights :twocents:
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: Bob33 on October 23, 2011, 06:50:22 PM
I own two X Bolts and have not had a single problem with either.  The magazines are just fine.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: Hyde on October 23, 2011, 10:45:53 PM
Thanks for the comments.  I am leaning towards the 308, but when it comes to left hand rifles, in most cases you have to take what you can get.  I like the 7-08, it's nearly identical to the 284, which I have used quite a bit. I want that little extra punch the 308 will give.  I don't expect to be shooting more than 300 yards, if that. 
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: C-Money on October 24, 2011, 09:24:04 AM
7mm-08 all the way! If you want a little extra punch, grab some 160's in 7mm-08 and you will have a LOT of punch! The 7mm-08 with a quality 140gr bullet will perfom great on big game and shoot a bit flatter. The 7mm-08 is a Great cartridge!I enjoy the low recoil. My wife and I both killed large body muley bucks this year with the 7mm-08, weighing approx 250lbs each on the hoof. They both fell where they stood, lights out!
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: copasj on October 25, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
My wife has a micro x-bolt in 7mm-08 and I have been highly impressed with it.  I didn't like the magazine at first because it was plastic, but it's not given us any problem at all.  If I remember correctly the release is at the front of the mag so it would be hard to release accidentally.  The rifle is quite light, but a little short for me.  Probably clocks in at about 7 lbs with scope.  This is her do everything rifle, to include elk.

I loaded up quite a few ladder tests first time I took it to the range.  Turned out I wasted my time, the first combo I tried worked out great so I pulled the rest apart.  42 grains of H-4895 under a 120 ttsx is what I have settled on for her.  She shot a three shot group under and inch at 100 and a 1.25" group at 200 this weekend (two were touching) at the range and recoil is minimal.  It also put's 120 ballistic tips at the same POI with the same powder charge, at least to 200 yards.  This coming weekend we want to see how she does at 300, and see if the ballistic tips stay with the barnes at 300. 

This is off a bench but without sandbags, so not much different than a good steady prone.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: JKEEN33 on October 25, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
I have the xbolt in 300wsm and really like the gun. I prefer the clip over the hinged floor plate clip on my a bolt. That said, I like the bolt on the a bolt better, but they are both great guns.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: luteai on October 25, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
I have the x-bolt in 7mm-08.  Mag is much better than Tikka, Remington or the Interarms Husky I have had.  You'd be hard pressed to accidentally drop the mag as its release is in front of the mag.  Feeds all 4 rounds like a dream.  I'm sold on the 7'08, I load it down for my kids, 120 grain @ 2650, and a 140 grain @ 2850 for me.  You can load hotter, but I haven't the need. Dropped a 3 x 3 (8 point eastern count) whitetail at just shy of 450 yards opening weekend.  Load a 160 partition for bear and you'll not be under gunned! I'd gladly trade my stainless synthetic model 7 with a second stock cut to youth size for a micro x-bolt.  Totally different class of rifle IMHO.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: duckman nale on October 25, 2011, 07:49:46 PM
i have the x bolt medallion in 270 win the mag is smooth feeding and the accuracy is amazing i would go with the 7mm-08 it a flat shootin caliber
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: Hyde on October 25, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
I'm starting to lean towards the 7mm-08.  As predicted, there are no left hand models in any caliber in the system at this point.  That's the story of a lefty's life when it comes to guns, which is why I started having them custom built years ago.  This time, I wanted to keep things simple and just get a factory rifle (plus 1/3 the cost of a custom).  We'll see if my gun place can get ahold of one for me.  It's not like I need it asap. 
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: tsimp1211 on October 29, 2011, 07:36:20 AM
I have an X Bolt in 7MM-08....stainless stalker.  The rotary magazine works great.  The only hiccup occurs when I don't fully retract the bolt to the rear.  If I don't fully retract the bolt, it will not feed another round into the chamber.  The lenght of the Standard Short magazine is longer than that of the A Bolt, so handloaders will like it.  A good friend of mine has a Mountain Ti A Bolt, and we compared the two, mine is longer.  I don't forsee you having a problem accidentaly releasing the magazine, but make sure that it is full seated or you will have problems feeding a round.  Accuracy out of mine is less than MOA and I couldn't be happier.  I shoot the Hornady Superformance 139gr SST's and they perform flawlessly.  On a scale of 1-10 considering other rifles and prices, I would give it an 8.5.  The only flaw I could find, was rust starting to form on my bolt after a week out in the elements chasing high country mulies. 

As far as 308 vs 7mm-08 well we could argue that forever.  BC's are better for the heavier bullets commercially available for the 308, but if you aren't a comp shooter and want a great deer round you can't really beat the 7mm-08.  My buddy loads 160gr Bergers for his, so if you reload, then bullet selection won't be a problem.  My gun didn't shoot any ammo under an inch other than the Hornady Superformance.  I put two types of Federals, two types of Winchesters, and Remingtons through it.  I liked the power of my friends 160gr handloads, but my rifle was sighted in for the 139gr SST's and I wasn't messing with it the day before the opener.

Buy the gun and you won't be dissapointed.
Title: Re: Question for X-Bolt owners, plus caliber question for westside deer rifle
Post by: Hyde on November 01, 2011, 08:59:42 AM
I took a look at a comparison between the 708 and the 308, (140 gr Partitions in 708 verses the 150 Partition in 308), and they are nearly identical.  Energy is a little better with the 308, and since it will make a slightly bigger hole, I have decided on my original idea of going with the 308.  Even though both of these calibers are great past 300 yards, this would be my blacktail/west side rifle, where shots would probably be less.  Now all I have to do is wait until someone can get me one.  There are none in the system at this point, and no one expects any before the first of the year.  (Left hand)

Now it's time to research a good scope for this rifle.  Anyone use one of those Trijicon (sp?) scopes?  Thanks again for the comments. 
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