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Title: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Tman on October 23, 2011, 06:43:26 PM
My oldest daughter shot a nice whitetail doe this evening about 45 min before dark.  The deer jumped and kicked, spun a 180 and ran about 100 yds, then stopped and slowly walked off like nothing happened.  We gave her about a half hour before we pursued. Then, we found a decent blood trail, but lost it due to the darkness.  The blood started bright red and got darker and darker as we went along.  I'm sure the blood keeps going but with the darkness and fog it is impossible to see, its mostly small spots with a few half dollar sized puddles.  I finally made the decision about 10 min ago to back out and resume the search in the morning when we have more light. I'm worried about walking on blood and destroying any chance of finding her we have.  I'm definitely concerned about meat spoilage or predators too.  :bash: :bash: :bash: Temp should be below freezing tonight. What do you guys think??
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: buglin4bulls on October 23, 2011, 06:46:01 PM
As long as the low is below 55 or 50 i think you will be fine till morning. Just my  :twocents:
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: ICEMAN on October 23, 2011, 06:46:04 PM
The deer may pass in the night. Go back and find the deer. Skin and open up tomorrow. You may lose some of the meat.
 
We have trimmed spoiled meat off elk, and found the underlying meat just fine...
 
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Button Nubbs on October 23, 2011, 06:47:01 PM
had to leave my bull overnight in sept this year. found him at 930 the next am and it was still good. i think you will be plenty fine! :tup: good luck!
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Tman on October 23, 2011, 06:52:04 PM
I sure hope so..  Will the blood still be easy to spot in the morning or does dried blood dissappear into vegetation.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Goldeneye on October 23, 2011, 06:59:32 PM
Blood that hits something like a real dry piece of wood or such will pretty much disappear over night as the dryness kind of acts like a sponge.  Blood on leaves, grasses, ground, or rock should still be easy enough to see.  I've helped find a few animals that were left out over night.  It can be pretty tough going so don't get discouraged.  Remember to do a grid pattern search if you lose the blood trail.  A wounded animal can get into amazingly good hiding spots. 

This is part of the reason I no longer hunt until last shooting light.  Too much can go wrong.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: seth30 on October 23, 2011, 07:07:27 PM
I hope the fog you spoke of, doent put too much moisture on the ground :twocents:
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on October 23, 2011, 07:17:31 PM
If it is as cold as you say it will be fine if you fine it early.  Get there at first light and look hard.  If it is dry, use toilet paper instead of flagging to mark your spots.  It will disappear after the next rain and won't clutter up the forest.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Tman on October 23, 2011, 07:49:15 PM
I flagged the trail I followed tonight, really itching to go back out and look some more but am resistant because i'm not sure where she connected and don't want to bump it.  I've got some reinforcements coming in the morning, hopefully, we'll find her early. 
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: high country on October 23, 2011, 11:08:26 PM
You are going to be fine. I found a deer last year that was killed a day earlier and not found.......I gutted it for the hunter and called him. All was fine.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: sebek556 on October 23, 2011, 11:25:39 PM
where you at maybe i could help look? :dunno:
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Ellensburg on October 23, 2011, 11:28:18 PM
I'd be more worried about a coyote eating it... I think you will be fine so long as u find it early enough and then gut it and skin it. Even if it is dead right now, you will be amazed at how fricken warm that hide will keep it.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: CountryslickR on October 24, 2011, 12:30:56 AM
Should be fine, just get the hide off asap when u find it...I wouldn't eat the heart or liver tho...
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Tman on October 24, 2011, 06:38:34 AM
Getting ready to head out now, come on sun, give us some light.  Been a restless night.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: demontang on October 24, 2011, 08:05:29 AM
Man I will pray you find it, I lost my buck this year and still havent found him. Ive looked for 3 days :'( and Im heading back out this week to see if he made it or not. Look under every little thing blade of grass branch leaf etc. I lost and found the blood trail three times and found it by getting down and looking up through the grass and branches.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: seth30 on October 24, 2011, 11:23:20 AM
Getting ready to head out now, come on sun, give us some light.  Been a restless night.

Good Luck.  Keep us posted on your tactics and success.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Tman on October 24, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Just got back for lunch from trip 1, found the blood trail again, very few blood drops, some white hair and a few pieces of fat.  Lost the blood trail after about 100 yds again.  Crawled around looking for more and found nothing.  Walked some large circles of the area with a hunting buddy that came to help out.  Haven't found anything yet.  Headed back out in a little while, gonna try the peroxide and see if it helps relocate blood.  Right now, I'm thinking low brisket shot.  I'm assuming that she missed the vitals as I am now over 300 yds from point of impact and the trail seems to be getting smaller and smaller.  I'll let you know once I get back from Trip 2.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: PA BEN on October 24, 2011, 01:09:40 PM
My oldest daughter shot a nice whitetail doe this evening about 45 min before dark.  The deer jumped and kicked, spun a 180 and ran about 100 yds, then stopped and slowly walked off like nothing happened.  We gave her about a half hour before we pursued. Then, we found a decent blood trail, but lost it due to the darkness.  The blood started bright red and got darker and darker as we went along.  I'm sure the blood keeps going but with the darkness and fog it is impossible to see, its mostly small spots with a few half dollar sized puddles.  I finally made the decision about 10 min ago to back out and resume the search in the morning when we have more light. I'm worried about walking on blood and destroying any chance of finding her we have.  I'm definitely concerned about meat spoilage or predators too.  :bash: :bash: :bash: Temp should be below freezing tonight. What do you guys think??
Sounds like a gut shot, body angle will do that to a kid. Sometimes the front leg is back, so they shoot it behind the shoulder bam gut shot. We always tell them to shoot behind the shoulder. I got out a dry eraser board and showed them body angles for each shot. Ben there done that w/my kids. The blood starts out red then gets dark when the the guts start to mix w/it. And yes they just walk off when gut shot. I have 5 daughters and started them when they were 9 and have had my share of guy shot deer. Only lost two over the years.
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: sebek556 on October 24, 2011, 09:20:38 PM
sorry had some pressing issues this morning couldnt make it out to help  :sry:
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: sixty4nhalf on October 24, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
So what's the verdict? You find her deer yet?
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: CountryslickR on October 24, 2011, 11:31:30 PM
Any word?
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: seth30 on October 25, 2011, 06:29:44 AM
Any word?
:yeah: :yeah:
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: ICEMAN on October 25, 2011, 06:06:46 PM
Well.....were waiting.......? (Said in Ted Knight's voice, may his soul rest in peace....)
Title: Re: Will the meat spoil?
Post by: Tman on October 29, 2011, 05:19:35 PM
Sorry about the delay, been busy, never found  blood again after the last drop (looked for the 2 days) walking in grids out to about 800 yds, figured she must've stopped licked the wound and took off running. 

But then, I saw the deer cross in front of me yesterday, with a slight limp in the left front yet still bearing weight on the leg.  I'm guessing she must've shot low hit muscle in there somewhere, glad its still alive, but kinda ticked the season is over and the deer can't be put down.  I supposed by the looks of it after 5 days its gonna make it.
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