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Title: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: hc3006 on November 22, 2011, 08:48:04 PM
I was checking out a clear cut in clearwater unit when out of nowhere a white helicopter comes crusing about 100 or so feet above the ground and just hovering above the trees. The helicopter just flew around a couple clear cuts adjacent to where we were for about 20 minutes or so and took off. Anyone have any ideas on this nonsense? I know we were baffled. Oh this was during mod season as well. So much for the stealth approach
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: benhuntin on November 22, 2011, 08:51:22 PM
its the "helicopter draw tag" best tag in the state :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 22, 2011, 08:53:18 PM
Are you talking about the westside 615?  I was in 618 and had a small plane flying all around and then a helicopter.  I think it was on the Wed or Thurs.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: IronMike on November 22, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
Probably Cedar Salvage operation, they use helicopter all the time to fly the wood out, other than that, I have no idea.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 22, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
its the "helicopter draw tag" best tag in the state :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

I'm all over it , where do I apply? :rockin:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: plugger on November 23, 2011, 06:23:32 AM
Flying shake bolts. There always in there.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: dreamunelk on November 23, 2011, 09:13:24 AM
Cedar blocks or other.  Also they fly cedar boughs out.  Remember you are hunting in working forests.  Many other types of surveys going on.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Hunterman on November 23, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
It is the Native's new way to hunt the deer & elk.. That way people can't talk about their road hunting  :chuckle:

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Willis McGee on November 23, 2011, 11:03:26 AM
Maybe they were doing a drop camp?
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Greg Mullins on November 23, 2011, 02:51:38 PM
animal head count
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: dreamunelk on November 23, 2011, 02:53:27 PM
Wrong time of year for elk or deer surveys.  Would have very little meaning.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Yelm hunter on November 23, 2011, 06:26:08 PM
It was the Fish and Wildlife...... Taking head count of animals and headcount of hunters!!

It happened on my in the winston unit last year.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on November 23, 2011, 07:15:48 PM
It is the Native's new way to hunt the deer & elk.. That way people can't talk about their road hunting  :chuckle:

Hunterman(Tony)
thats kinda like the Makha indians doing a traditional whale hunt with a 25 horse Mercury and a .50 cal :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: bigcuz on November 24, 2011, 10:59:50 AM
i would be willing to bet that it was indians hunting sense they are aloud to hunt with helicopters
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Willis McGee on November 24, 2011, 11:11:14 AM
i would be willing to bet that it was indians hunting sense they are aloud to hunt with helicopters
  Yep that's it. The game dept. doesn't have money. The tribes have all the money and power.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 24, 2011, 11:16:50 AM
The helicopter/plane where I was wasn't shooting.  Just a small plane that flew around up one drainage and then down the other side.  Then a helicopter came over.  The cover was too thick to see as it hasn't been logged in many years (maybe if they were using thermal imaging).  I was guessing WDFW, NPS, or hippies (all the same now really).  Last year I was in 607 and NPS was doing an elk count at the same time as WDFW.  From what I understand they use their radio receivers to track the collars and then work over the area.  Last year it was in Sept not Nov.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: dartondude on November 24, 2011, 02:27:45 PM
I could use one of those for scouting
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on November 24, 2011, 05:48:10 PM
I hate to bust everyone's bubble but, I fly with the best thermal site in the world. The amount of detail we have is amazing. But thermal sites don't see through stuff. Flying over trees I see trees. If deer people or elk are under tje trees I can't see through tje tree branches. I can't see through walls etc. With a thermal you cant see through glass
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: spikehunter on November 28, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
had a chopper fly out of the canyon me and my son were huntin' on OCT. 2nd in the cowiche for muzzy :bash: Probably the dfw transplantin' wolves (i mean targets) they weren't 100 feet off the ground either!
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Elkrunner on December 01, 2011, 03:31:15 PM
Mabye it was PETA...
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 02, 2011, 12:22:27 PM
had a chopper fly out of the canyon me and my son were huntin' on OCT. 2nd in the cowiche for muzzy :bash: Probably the dfw transplantin' wolves (i mean targets) they weren't 100 feet off the ground either!

I have flown over a bunch of animals and most rarely even look up.  Most keep doing whatever it is they are doing.  Unless you come to  a hover right above their heads and literally try to herd them.  But zipping around at 100feet (while not safe) wouldn't bug the animals at all. 
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: wraithen on December 02, 2011, 01:25:32 PM
colockum, I've seen plenty of animals scatter hauling around at 200 feet. Kinda depends on the terrain. Out in the open they spook really easy. On reservations and in thick cover they don't do much. You can't count your helo bc you have that whole underpowered system with those skinny blades. I do envy that your transmission just slides right out tho.  :tup:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: JColony on December 02, 2011, 01:53:09 PM
Is everything on here a conspiracy???  Where these planes and helicopters seen doing anything other than flying around?  Who's to say they weren't just people out for an afternoon or morning flight?  People own planes, people own helicopters and surprisingly enough, they fly them. 
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 02, 2011, 01:57:53 PM
colockum, I've seen plenty of animals scatter hauling around at 200 feet. Kinda depends on the terrain. Out in the open they spook really easy. On reservations and in thick cover they don't do much. You can't count your helo bc you have that whole underpowered system with those skinny blades. I do envy that your transmission just slides right out tho.  :tup:

You must be a Hooker huh?
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: wraithen on December 02, 2011, 01:58:52 PM
Nope. Give you a hint. Same engines as you! JColony, I think most people were kidding and the OP was curious.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 02, 2011, 01:59:29 PM
colockum, I've seen plenty of animals scatter hauling around at 200 feet. Kinda depends on the terrain. Out in the open they spook really easy. On reservations and in thick cover they don't do much. You can't count your helo bc you have that whole underpowered system with those skinny blades. I do envy that your transmission just slides right out tho.  :tup:

 :yeah:  The video of the Yakama Nation and Nevada F&W herding and catching showed the Antelope fleeing for their lives.  I was north west of this location that same weekend and I don't recall any helo's? :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:  Maybe they just stayed in that general area for some reason :dunno:  transpl...wolv...um nevermind... :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 02, 2011, 02:10:55 PM
Nope. Give you a hint. Same engines as you! JColony, I think most people were kidding and the OP was curious.

Ah the crashawk. What do you mean underpowered.  And those skinny blades give us whisper mode :chuckle:   I can almost hover over there.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: JColony on December 02, 2011, 02:12:35 PM
Quote
JColony, I think most people were kidding and the OP was curious.

I know people making comments were joking around, I do have a little bit of a sense of humor :chuckle:  It was more of a comment to the thread, not the comments. 
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: elkslayer069 on December 02, 2011, 02:38:41 PM
Their where flying out noble fir bowes they just finished up here about a week ago
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Rick on December 02, 2011, 08:42:57 PM
Is everything on here a conspiracy??? 

No shiat. I swear,some of the dudes on this site must lay in bed at night and dream up conspiracy theories.

Some of the nonsense these kooks come up with is amazing.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: seth30 on December 02, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
Is everything on here a conspiracy??? 

No shiat. I swear,some of the dudes on this site must lay in bed at night and dream up conspiracy theories.

Some of the nonsense these kooks come up with is amazing.
Rick your not allowed to talk about consiperys until you make at least 1000 posts :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Goshawk on December 04, 2011, 06:09:19 PM
Never accept a simple explanation when a vastly complex conspiracy theory will do...
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Joe Merlot on December 04, 2011, 06:31:52 PM
White MD500 + black hindquarter = Olympic Air.

Flyin bolts, probably. The tribe hires em to count fish in the river, also. They are always out there.

Not much of  conspiracy, but the pilot HAS seen Sasquatch.....shhh.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: TheFewTheProud on December 04, 2011, 06:59:40 PM
The helo was small and was not moving lumber. It was moving too fast to be counting anything.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 04, 2011, 07:00:50 PM
White MD500 + black hindquarter = Olympic Air.

Flyin bolts, probably. The tribe hires em to count fish in the river, also. They are always out there.

Not much of  conspiracy, but the pilot HAS seen Sasquatch.....shhh.

Did the pilot get pictures and documentation? Doesn't matter if Saquatch took you down and had his way with you. When it comes to Sasquatch and the excessive killing of branched antler bulls on the Clockum. Without pictures and documentation it didn't happen. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Joe Merlot on December 04, 2011, 07:11:45 PM
The helo was small and was not moving lumber. It was moving too fast to be counting anything.

How small? Robinson small? There are one or two I know of that are privately owned out there.
White MD500 + black hindquarter = Olympic Air.

Flyin bolts, probably. The tribe hires em to count fish in the river, also. They are always out there.

Not much of  conspiracy, but the pilot HAS seen Sasquatch.....shhh.

Did the pilot get pictures and documentation? Doesn't matter if Saquatch took you down and had his way with you. When it comes to Sasquatch and the excessive killing of branched antler bulls on the Clockum. Without pictures and documentation it didn't happen. :chuckle: :chuckle:


Amazing what you see cruising the Rainforest if you do it on a regular basis.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 04, 2011, 07:26:14 PM
Biggerhammer sssh. The Blue Mountain Mafia has spies everywhere. You mention sasquatch again and tjey will find you.    8)
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: TheFewTheProud on December 04, 2011, 07:28:54 PM
The helo was small and was not moving lumber. It was moving too fast to be counting anything.

How small? Robinson small? There are one or two I know of that are privately owned out there.
[quote author=Joe Merlot link=topic=87345.msg1106630#msg1106630

Yes that small. It was flying sideways in and out out the trees. Like my buddy said 100ft tops.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 04, 2011, 07:45:17 PM
Biggerhammer *censored*h. The Blue Mountain Mafia has spies everywhere. You mention sasquatch again and tjey will find you.    8)

We all see allot in the hills, I would never admit to seeing him even if I have. ;)
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on December 05, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
The state was dropping off the new Olympic WOLF breeding pair, beings now there is a plan set in motion.   :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :sas: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :sas:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: dreamunelk on December 05, 2011, 07:08:50 PM
 :sas:
The state was dropping off the new Olympic WOLF breeding pair, beings now there is a plan set in motion.   :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :sas: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :sas:
[/quotw]

 :yike:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 05, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
The helo was small and was not moving lumber. It was moving too fast to be counting anything.

Well if it was small it wasnt carrying anything. And if it was moving fast it may have been going from point A to B. Y
ou know as helicopter pilots we do like to fly low and fast. Well except Kiowas because they can't fly fast :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 05, 2011, 07:21:28 PM
From what I've heard it won't be the state doing it. :yike:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Hunting7mm on December 05, 2011, 07:29:15 PM
Just someone scouting elk. 
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: wraithen on December 05, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
The kiowas can't fly low either. Well the aircraft is capable, the pilots have a strange fascination with wires and hitting the earth though.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: TheFewTheProud on December 05, 2011, 07:48:31 PM
[Well if it was small it wasnt carrying anything. And if it was moving fast it may have been going from point A to B. Y
ou know as helicopter pilots we do like to fly low and fast. Well except Kiowas because they can't fly fast :chuckle:
[/quote]

haha If it was going from A. to B. then B. must not of been a known point AND the pilot must of thought it was easier to fly sideways in and out of the trees. Civilian (non-military) bird for sure.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 06, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
I doubt it was flying sideways in and out of trees very fast.  You can either fly fast or fly in and out of trees but you can't do both.  Well not for very long anyways.   :chuckle:  If they were flying sideways and in and out of trees I suspect they were surveying something.  If this was in the Cowiche they could have been looking for stray cattle. 

I'm just saying just because people see a helicopter flying low and doing stuff like this doesn't mean they are planting wolves or chasing elk. 

The kiowas can't fly low either. Well the aircraft is capable, the pilots have a strange fascination with wires and hitting the earth though.
   

That is so wrong.  But funny.  Wish there was a Kiowa guy on this site.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 07, 2011, 08:36:35 AM
I doubt it was flying sideways in and out of trees very fast.  You can either fly fast or fly in and out of trees but you can't do both.  Well not for very long anyways.   :chuckle:  If they were flying sideways and in and out of trees I suspect they were surveying something.  If this was in the Cowiche they could have been looking for stray cattle. 

I'm just saying just because people see a helicopter flying low and doing stuff like this doesn't mean they are planting wolves or chasing elk. 

The kiowas can't fly low either. Well the aircraft is capable, the pilots have a strange fascination with wires and hitting the earth though.
   

That is so wrong.  But funny.  Wish there was a Kiowa guy on this site.   :chuckle:

Clock, I found the evidence to prove you are assisting with the conspiracy of packs being dropped off across the State!  Now that I have exposed the truth you are done! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Woodchuck on December 07, 2011, 08:42:41 AM
 :yike: You are the man Plateau  :salute:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 07, 2011, 11:50:31 AM
 :chuckle: :chuckle: :lol4: :lol4:

Dang I've been caught red handed.  Well played sir, well played. I have no response.  I'm speechless.   :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Elkrunner on December 07, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
 :chuckle: That is just plain ole funny!
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Coastal_native on December 08, 2011, 01:39:46 PM
I'm soooo jealous that I didn't come up with that.  Plat, I hearby transfer 100% ownership of colockumelk over to you.
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Woodchuck on December 08, 2011, 01:48:31 PM
Plat has owned him for a long time.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: 400out on December 08, 2011, 01:54:47 PM
I thought it would take atleast a year to beat pthfinders "dear penthouse" post but nope!  :kneel: Here's to you Plat  :brew: BURN! LOL
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 08, 2011, 02:12:17 PM
I'm soooo jealous that I didn't come up with that.  Plat, I hearby transfer 100% ownership of colockumelk over to you.

 :rockin: :whoo: :whoo: :whoo: :lol4:  Colockum Master as of December 2011!!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: gaddy on December 08, 2011, 02:16:49 PM
congratulations !! well done
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 09:29:33 AM
I'm soooo jealous that I didn't come up with that.  Plat, I hearby transfer 100% ownership of colockumelk over to you.

Don't I get a say in who owns me or not  :dunno:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: 400out on December 09, 2011, 09:35:42 AM
  :sry: No because however you look at it YOU GOT OWNED! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 09, 2011, 11:10:30 AM
  :sry: No because however you look at it YOU GOT OWNED! :chuckle: :chuckle:

 :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:  Do cows get to decide who gets slaughtered first?  Does the food on my plate get to decide what portion I'm going to eat first?  I think not!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 11:14:04 AM
Here's my only response-  Live in Fear  :lol4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICsujYpRI8A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICsujYpRI8A)
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 11:15:04 AM
Okay I just noticed this.  Look at the dog in the top right corner.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: Woodchuck on December 09, 2011, 11:17:42 AM
Man's best friend huh? Yeah right, see ya boys.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 09, 2011, 11:20:53 AM
 :yeah:  Looks just like that buffalo video where the one knocked the other buffalo over to get away. 
Title: Re: helicopter in clearwater
Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Man's best friend huh? Yeah right, see ya boys.  :chuckle:

 :yeah:  That's what I was thinking  :chuckle:
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