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Post by: fishingnut71 on November 29, 2011, 05:44:58 PM
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Post by: Biggerhammer on November 29, 2011, 05:56:35 PM
I hate to say it but i agree. i hunt up there every year and its getting stupid. Make it permit and keep most of the rif raf out. The problem is like the entiat and all the other units, we get to permits while others drive up there and shoot the deer. POACHERS. Lock the roads off in the winter. Thats for everybody. And i mean Everbody. Then the populations might get better.
Let's just fence the whole state and everyone can leave and we can all walk in to hunt. :chuckle:
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 29, 2011, 06:01:46 PM
Post by: mulehunter on November 29, 2011, 06:08:31 PM
Post by: biggamehunter on November 29, 2011, 06:24:54 PM
Fencing it of is fine with me. im tired of the indians and the wetside invading all of the good huntin areas.
well @ the rate they keep locking up land on the "wetside" your just gonna see more and more "wetsiders" I suggest that everyone get along and play nice. I just bring this up cause im tired of seeing people complain about the "wetsiders" or the "coasties" coming over to the eastside and hunting. I thought we were all part of the same group, people that love the outdoors and love to have a chance to harvest a nice animal?? :dunno: I do apologize if some hunters from the westside have rubbed some of you the wrong way but dont lump us all into the same group. i know of lots of guys that are more than willing to lend a hand to their fellow hunter when they get drawn for say the nooksack elk hunt. and i dont think i have ever heard any of them complain about the eastside guys. I know that it is drastically different but what can i say you "flatlanders" have better mule deer hunting then us. lol :chuckle: just my :twocents:
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 29, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Fencing it of is fine with me. im tired of the indians and the wetside invading all of the good huntin areas.
well @ the rate they keep locking up land on the "wetside" your just gonna see more and more "wetsiders" I suggest that everyone get along and play nice. I just bring this up cause im tired of seeing people complain about the "wetsiders" or the "coasties" coming over to the eastside and hunting. I thought we were all part of the same group, people that love the outdoors and love to have a chance to harvest a nice animal?? :dunno: I do apologize if some hunters from the westside have rubbed some of you the wrong way but dont lump us all into the same group. i know of lots of guys that are more than willing to lend a hand to their fellow hunter when they get drawn for say the nooksack elk hunt. and i dont think i have ever heard any of them complain about the eastside guys. I know that it is drastically different but what can i say you "flatlanders" have better mule deer hunting then us. lol :chuckle: just my :twocents:
I have shot elk here where I live in Eastern WA and on my first pack out ran into westside guys that asked if I needed help. They grabbed 3 other from the westside and made the trip back with me. We all loaded up quarters and out we came, 4 hours and some nasty stuff. Shook hands and they went back to hunting and I went home. We are all part of the same group. I would do the same in return in a heartbeat.
Post by: biggamehunter on November 29, 2011, 06:54:52 PM
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 29, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
Post by: CountryslickR on November 29, 2011, 07:20:12 PM
Went up there friday morning for the day and well we didnt see many bucks we only saw 3 and all the deer were in the cashmere area. First we hit Swakane Cyn Rd and went all the way to the top didnt see one, but lots of hunters. then we hit the Nahahum Cyn Rd and get to where it says primitive road no warning signs and there was a close gate :dunno: so we turned around and i told my dad to stop and i noticed deer. Well picked up the binos and there was 2 nice shooters but then some old lady came down yelling at us and she was with her husband and the husband didnt care and the guy told us that the deer were on there land and that we cant hunt them. Thats our journey. Did anyone else see bucks or get one?
Naham is almost entirely private, or you have to go thru private to get to public...and you should have sat and glassed in the main Swakane drainage...not to sound rude, but during the entire season that area was crawling with decent bucks....sometimes just finding a ridge and glassing is key...they'll come thru..just have to be patient.....
Post by: boonerboy on November 29, 2011, 07:35:43 PM
Post by: Armadillo on November 29, 2011, 07:57:17 PM
Post by: BAR C3 on November 29, 2011, 08:11:31 PM
I was born a Westsider. Very small town matter of fact. It happens everywhere. We didn't like outsiders in our town. Maybe it's all our Type A personalities. Or our territorial issues. I've lived in Eastern Washington 15 years and got snubbed by many when I got here. The problem has been the ones that ruin it for others. I've watched groups of guys from the westside trespass and basically tell a farmer to screw himself. :bdid: Got them off HIS property after the cops showed up. You will find them everywhere though. I've seen them in Montana, Idaho, and etc... Those are the ones that ruin for everyone and shouldn't even call themselves hunters.Fencing it of is fine with me. im tired of the indians and the wetside invading all of the good huntin areas.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Nice attitude. I know "wetsiders" that have been hunting that area probably longer than you have been alive. Lets see my first hunt there was 1980 and some of the guys who took me there the first time have been hunting up there since the 50's.... and I'll leave your attempt at bigotry alone. I am really tired of the Native bashing.
The answer to the over crowding is not closing the GMU, it is to expand hunting opportunities in other GMU's. Lets see, there was approx 600 hunters during late archery in that GMU last year, if you close that, where do they go... to make overcrowding in Mason and 243 even worse? They will go somewhere... if we can expand our open areas in the 300 series GMU's, then overcrowding of this specific unit will go down... But hey lets not think.. lets just blame.
Where was everyone on being sick of bashing the Natives when I was the only one sticking up for them and wanting to fight more than one on here????? :yike:
Post by: jrebel on November 29, 2011, 08:18:59 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on November 29, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Fencing it of is fine with me. im tired of the indians and the wetside invading all of the good huntin areas.
well @ the rate they keep locking up land on the "wetside" your just gonna see more and more "wetsiders" I suggest that everyone get along and play nice. I just bring this up cause im tired of seeing people complain about the "wetsiders" or the "coasties" coming over to the eastside and hunting. I thought we were all part of the same group, people that love the outdoors and love to have a chance to harvest a nice animal?? :dunno: I do apologize if some hunters from the westside have rubbed some of you the wrong way but dont lump us all into the same group. i know of lots of guys that are more than willing to lend a hand to their fellow hunter when they get drawn for say the nooksack elk hunt. and i dont think i have ever heard any of them complain about the eastside guys. I know that it is drastically different but what can i say you "flatlanders" have better mule deer hunting then us. lol :chuckle: just my :twocents:
Agree - except for the "flatlanders". I like the comedy, but dude, hunt my area...
I have yet to hunt elk in WA. I'm thinking the first time I might will be on the WETside. Would love to shoot a roosie. Unfortunately I think my first west bull will be in OR. Being from, and living on the dryside it's tough sometimes. We all have our alliances. But you make a good point. Besides the small town mentality, and the bad apple BS, it's just the lack of population and the saturation that happens come hunting season. But small business owners thrive on it. I appreciate it as long as EVERYBODY abides by the rules.
Post by: coachcw on November 29, 2011, 09:07:04 PM
Post by: biggamehunter on November 29, 2011, 09:09:04 PM
Fencing it of is fine with me. im tired of the indians and the wetside invading all of the good huntin areas.
well @ the rate they keep locking up land on the "wetside" your just gonna see more and more "wetsiders" I suggest that everyone get along and play nice. I just bring this up cause im tired of seeing people complain about the "wetsiders" or the "coasties" coming over to the eastside and hunting. I thought we were all part of the same group, people that love the outdoors and love to have a chance to harvest a nice animal?? :dunno: I do apologize if some hunters from the westside have rubbed some of you the wrong way but dont lump us all into the same group. i know of lots of guys that are more than willing to lend a hand to their fellow hunter when they get drawn for say the nooksack elk hunt. and i dont think i have ever heard any of them complain about the eastside guys. I know that it is drastically different but what can i say you "flatlanders" have better mule deer hunting then us. lol :chuckle: just my :twocents:
Agree - except for the "flatlanders". I like the comedy, but dude, hunt my area...
LOL. I couldnt come up with anything very witty. And might I ask where your area is???? lol :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: huntnnw on November 29, 2011, 09:50:39 PM
Post by: CountryslickR on November 29, 2011, 10:00:02 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 29, 2011, 10:09:39 PM
I am all for making us pick "east" and "west" deer tags just like the elk
I'm not sure if that would have any effect on the number of deer hunters on either side of the state. :dunno:
Post by: biggamehunter on November 29, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
I am all for making us pick "east" and "west" deer tags just like the elk
I'm not sure if that would have any effect on the number of deer hunters on either side of the state. :dunno:
:yeah: although it might be less cramped on the westside after the first week
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 30, 2011, 09:28:42 AM
Post by: Huntbear on November 30, 2011, 09:36:00 AM
By making you chose which side of the state, which weapon you will use, etc..... all you are doing is letting them divide and conquer us..
We need to quit bickering about westside/eastside, archery vs. muzzy vs. modern, doe vs. buck.. etc...... otherwise one day your gonna wake up and there will be no hunting period, between the Natives and the wolves, there will not be enough left for us to hunt according to the state... So keep up the bashing and the dividing and the bickering amongst ourselves... see where it leads us.. no where good I can guarantee you.
Post by: jrebel on November 30, 2011, 10:28:50 AM
Post by: Huntboy on November 30, 2011, 10:53:30 AM
Well stated Huntbear. :tup::yeah:
Post by: buckhorn2 on November 30, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 30, 2011, 11:11:28 AM
Post by: gunnarnewt on November 30, 2011, 11:22:59 AM
Post by: Huntbear on November 30, 2011, 11:26:18 AM
It's amazing how this thread started out about the Swakane and eroded into this! :dunno:
Agree. I have never hunted that unit, however, I am tired of the bickering and finger pointing by each little sub group in our hunting community. The WDFW has SCREWED all of us long enough, when do we UNITE for a common cause, our hunting heritage? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 30, 2011, 11:30:36 AM
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 30, 2011, 12:47:18 PM
Post by: bigcountry on November 30, 2011, 02:24:36 PM
You guys are AGAIN willing to let the WDFW take away hunting opportunities for everyone in this state...... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
By making you chose which side of the state, which weapon you will use, etc..... all you are doing is letting them divide and conquer us..
We need to quit bickering about westside/eastside, archery vs. muzzy vs. modern, doe vs. buck.. etc...... otherwise one day your gonna wake up and there will be no hunting period, between the Natives and the wolves, there will not be enough left for us to hunt according to the state... So keep up the bashing and the dividing and the bickering amongst ourselves... see where it leads us.. no where good I can guarantee you.
:yeah: Well said.
Post by: Huntbear on November 30, 2011, 02:34:47 PM
Just divide WA into two states. Like the carolinas or virginas. Out of state fees for wetside to hunt east and out of state fees for 509ers to fish west. OH, that wont ever happen because west WA needs eastern WA money. Since king co is the majority.
Yes they are.. but YOU can still put it on the ballot... make an imaginary dividing line... and let everyone vote.... Yes you can do that in this state... So I will expect to see it on the ballot next November? I mean if you feel that strongly about it....
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 30, 2011, 07:49:02 PM
Post by: GoPlayOutside on November 30, 2011, 08:10:50 PM
Personally, I think it's an awesome privilage to draw a Late Rifle Tag...so maybe don't get rid of those.
But....definitely open more GMU's up for the Late Archery season...this will spread the hunters out.
It is inevitable that the WDFW will screw this unit up very shortly...as they have done with the Colockum Elk.
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 30, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Post by: GoPlayOutside on November 30, 2011, 08:38:03 PM
They have owned many orchards, spent there lives building the Dams, working at the PUD, etc..
Since some of their kids have moved to the Westside for more abundant jobs, you want to make a stupid arguement about your opinions.
With that being said, Respectfully, "Kiss my ass".
Have you ever wanted to hunt or fish in Idaho, Montana, Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, or Western Washington?
Funny thing is, this Westsider could probably show more honey holes in your own hometown than you know of :chuckle:
Post by: jrebel on November 30, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
Post by: Craig on November 30, 2011, 08:54:53 PM
Post by: GoPlayOutside on November 30, 2011, 08:55:43 PM
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Just divide WA into two states. Like the carolinas or virginas. Out of state fees for wetside to hunt east and out of state fees for 509ers to fish west. OH, that wont ever happen because west WA needs eastern WA money. Since king co is the majority./quote]
Your thinking is Exactly Wrong. Western Washington makes a majority of the Tax Revenue, and still has to pay/cover the costs for the entire state.
Don't get me wrong...if they ever divide the state, I'm moving east in a hurry!
Post by: biggamehunter on November 30, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
QuoteJust divide WA into two states. Like the carolinas or virginas. Out of state fees for wetside to hunt east and out of state fees for 509ers to fish west. OH, that wont ever happen because west WA needs eastern WA money. Since king co is the majority./quote]
Your thinking is Exactly Wrong. Western Washington makes a majority of the Tax Revenue, and still has to pay/cover the costs for the entire state.
Don't get me wrong...if they ever divide the state, I'm moving east in a hurry!
Also the small towns and small businesses would get hit real hard with no hunters coming over from the westside (why would i pay out of state to hunt eastside when i could go to say Idaho, Montana,Colorado). dividing would do some serious damage to the eastside.
Post by: muley freak on November 30, 2011, 09:17:00 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on December 01, 2011, 03:22:43 AM
Your thinking is Exactly Wrong. Western Washington makes a majority of the Tax Revenue, and still has to pay/cover the costs for the entire state.
Don't get me wrong...if they ever divide the state, I'm moving east in a hurry!
Yup. That's why we tolerate you :chuckle: Truth though. I haven't done a lot of research on it, but I'd question our sustainability if we separate. As sexy as it sounds, we don't need to make enemies of our bretheren. Just kick the hippies out ;)
Post by: biggamehunter on December 01, 2011, 03:36:32 AM
Your thinking is Exactly Wrong. Western Washington makes a majority of the Tax Revenue, and still has to pay/cover the costs for the entire state.
Don't get me wrong...if they ever divide the state, I'm moving east in a hurry!
Yup. That's why we tolerate you :chuckle: Truth though. I haven't done a lot of research on it, but I'd question our sustainability if we separate. As sexy as it sounds, we don't need to make enemies of our bretheren. Just kick the hippies out ;)
:yeah: I like your style. :chuckle:
Post by: antlerking on December 01, 2011, 05:47:10 AM
On a serious note this was buy far the most hunters I have ever seen in one gmu! I have been hunting this unit for quite sum time and WOW it was absolutly insane. I am going back to rifle next year and giving up the bow for deer until something is fixed. I dont have an answer for a fix, but never again will I partake in the zoo.
I have talked to quite a few hunters this year that this was there first time in there and they all had the multi tag, I beleive the ratio in that gmu was 7-10 hunters for every legel buck and the arrows were flying.
Post by: jrebel on December 01, 2011, 07:25:43 AM
Post by: bobcat on December 01, 2011, 08:01:04 AM
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Won't partake in the zoo of bowhunting the swakane....so your going back to rifle? I'm so confused???
I think he's saying rifle season is less crowded so he'd rather hunt that. Kind of the same way I feel about rifle versus muzzleloader elk seasons, and why I bought a rifle tag for elk this year instead of muzzleloader like I normally do.
Post by: Rainier10 on December 01, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
The answer is to open more Late Archery GMU's around the state (to spread out the hunters), or make it permit only for everyone, or limit the amount of Rifle opportunities (general season and a Late Permit), or all 3.You nailed it on this part to stop overcrowding they need to open more areas. They also say they need to get the buck to doe ratio up, to do that you need more doe permits or less bucks killed. They say there are 700 archery hunters, they don't say if they are late or early season, there is no way to determine that with the reporting system they have now, but those 700 hunters take about 70 bucks. If they eliminate the 20 late rifle tags that saves more bucks without limiting hunting for as many people.
I think the best option is to open more areas for late archery, the second option is to eliminate the late rifle tags and have 20 people hunting somewhere else rather than 700 looking for somewhere else to hunt. And I still question the 700 number, I have hunted there for the last 17 years and in the past 5 there have been more hunters on the first couple of days but not 700. After the first couple of days it thins out when people realize it is tough hunting and there aren't 180 class bucks everywhere. Or they leave because they get frustrated at not being able to get close enough for a good shot so they take a hail mary shot, wound a deer and don't track it into to deep canyon because they know by themselves they will never get it out so why even bother following it.
You will see a couple of 160" deer on here this year taken, maybe one or two 170-190 bucks and those will probably be raffle or governor tags. Next year there will be a whole new crop of newbies showing up because they heard the big deer are in Swakane or Entiat and by day two or three they will be frustrated and go elsewhere. The deer in Swakane migrate in, you can find them in the rifle season in other areas if you put in the work, if you want to wait until they get to Swakane you are still going to have to work your butt off to get one and odds are real good that it won't be a 180" deer.
Post by: fishingnut71 on December 01, 2011, 05:10:09 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 01, 2011, 08:49:11 PM
Rifle season is less crowded in the Swakane... the facts prove that wrong... go to the WDFW site and see for yourself.
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250 - SWAKANE - PMU 26
Archery 4 67 71 0 0 20 37 10 644 11% 3,150 44.4
Modern Firearms 0 87 87 0 1 47 26 13 618 14.1% 2,146 24.7
OK, I looked it up like you said, and it shows 644 archery hunters, and 618 modern firearm hunters, in 2010.
Post by: Rainier10 on December 01, 2011, 10:39:43 PM
WOW rainer10, A true bred coastie. closing late rifle WOW. hailmary shots and not following into a draw WOW. You said it not me. way TOO many people during the rut and time to make babies. They have some of the best genes up there and that needs to be preserved. rifle guys yes are more but as you said they migrate. if they shot all of the big ones you would never see any.I said the best option was to open more areas to decrease pressure, my first point that you obviously missed. My third option was if they are going to lower the number of bucks killed it would be smarter to eliminate the 20 rifle tags rather than eliminate 700 general season hunters. Turning away 20 permits isn't going to create overcrowding somewhere else, turning away 700 general tags is going to create overcrowding somewhere else. I hate to see opportunity taken away from anyone and believe if they opened more area(my first point) it would spread people out but if the game department doesn't see it that way and has to cut something it would make more sense to cut 20 permit hunters out instead of 700.
Hail mary shots are taken by archers, muzzy and rifle guys. I ran into a couple of tag holders the weekend before the archery season and they told me about a nice buck that they shot at 300yards over the edge, but it didn't drop so they didn't even hike down to see if they hit it. I think we all need to shoot within our comfortable range and owe it to the animal to follow up and see if we drew blood but not everyone feels the same way and there is nothing we can do to control that. It is just a fact some people in each of the groups will take longer shots than they are capable of, maybe you haven't seen it but it happens.
What is your solution to the overcrowding in region 2? How would you increase the buck to doe ratio above 22?
Post by: muleracks2 on December 01, 2011, 11:10:13 PM
Permits would eliminate the hoards :yike:of archery hunters in Nov. and let the bucks relax as they recover form the rut and prepare for winter. 48 permits like we have in the Entiat would be a big improvement. General Season is not a problem becaue most the the Chelan County herd migrates and are generally not in areas with road access in mid-October.
Post by: Deep Forks on December 02, 2011, 02:25:39 AM
I am all for making us pick "east" and "west" deer tags just like the elk:yeah: :yeah:
Post by: KopperBuck on December 02, 2011, 02:39:49 AM
WOW rainer10, A true bred coastie. closing late rifle WOW. hailmary shots and not following into a draw WOW. You said it not me. way TOO many people during the rut and time to make babies. They have some of the best genes up there and that needs to be preserved. rifle guys yes are more but as you said they migrate. if they shot all of the big ones you would never see any.
I'm still waiting for my shot from the Prescott unit to land in the Swakane... wait for it... wait for it...
Post by: fishingnut71 on December 02, 2011, 06:35:27 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on December 02, 2011, 07:56:04 AM
Pick east or west. Just like modern, archery, muzzy like the elk season. or simply eliminate late archery in that unit like the entiat has.Thanks for the input, I guess we just see it different. You want to decrease opportunity in more areas like they did by closing Entiat. What happened? People moved over to Swakane. Maybe it will work to close down another GMU but I see it as WDFW taking away our options not making them better. We just see it differently, I think we both want better deer hunting it is more of difference of how to get there. I think you are saying less hunters makes it better for the few that do get to hunt and I think more hunting area will allow more hunters to spread out and have a more enjoyable experience. It is a great debate the WDFW will decide.
Thanks for giving your opinion I am glad to see that you do have a solution you would like to see implemented at first I thought you were just going to throw out the "coastie" name calling and not have any real input. On this one we will just have to agree to disagree on the best way to handle overcrowding and hunter pressure on deer in Swakane.
Post by: klickman on December 02, 2011, 10:00:30 AM
KLICKMAN
Post by: Rainier10 on December 02, 2011, 11:35:32 AM
I think an archery class would educate people about taking shots with the bow and that it takes longer for the arrow to affect the animal sometimes than a gunshot does. Also about arrow placement and how there is not nearly the energy in an arrow as a bullet.
As I said before though long shots with a bow aren't any different than long shots with a muzzleloader or rifle. Unfortunately some members of each user group take shots that are beyond their effective range and no class is going to stop that, hopefully it will educate some and lower the amount of long distance shots taken. I think most of us have been frustrated at not being able to get close enough and have struggled with wether to take a long shot, running shot or just poor shot overall and in the end it is the person behind the weapon that has to decide if it is a good shot or not.
The multiseason tag did bring people into all of the folds, my guess is more rifle guys picked up muzzleloaders and bows, but I know my wife went back to rifle from bow this year with a multiseason tag so she could hunt with my daughter. That is the drawback of the multiseason tags because it is not a for sure deal once you get drawn is when many pick up a new weapon to try a new season. If the multiseason was something everyone could just buy then some people would be hopefully more prepared. Again the responsibility falls back to the individual hunter to proficient in the use of the weapon they choose and know their own limits with that weapon.
An archery safety course would be beneficial no doubt. Funding for the class would be tough in these economic times of budget cutbacks, but maybe down the line.
Post by: MtnMuley on December 02, 2011, 12:34:34 PM
Open all GMUs in the Chelan, Methow, Okanogan vicinity on a draw only Nov 20-30 late archery season. 30 tags per unit. Open up the general archery season Sept 1-30 as it used to be. People complain about the early archery season being hard to hunt and most wait until the late season when the pickings are much easier and more abundant.
Rifle hunters in these areas are forced to hunt the 9 day general during a primarily nocturnal season (compared to the Sept 1-30 season and Nov 20-30 season).
Muzzleloader hunters are forced to hunt their 9 day "middle of the pack" season.
With this idea, the bowhunters still get 3 times as much time to fill their tag. If you put in some time and hunt, you should have plenty of opportunities during the month of September to harvest an animal.
Nobody ever said hunting seasons were a guarantee. Seems too many hunters are disapointed when a tag goes unfilled and look to point fingers at WDFW. By no means am I sticking up for WDFW, but they have their hands full managing this state's deer herd with our deer:hunters ratio. Not too mention having a few bio's that would rather spend their time pursuing predators and other "fantasy" animals rather than devoting their time to our deer herd.
Overall, in my opinion, bowhunters here have always had the better and longer seasons and generally speaking, think they're getting the shaft when a season is shorter or made draw only. The quality of our deer herds should be the number one focus.
PS, I love bowhunting muleys. :)
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Post by: hunternash on December 03, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
I was up in the swakane hunting with 2 of my friends today. We did not see one other hunter all day and saw plenty of shooter bucks. It was crazy, came close but snow was to crunchy. You just have to glass and get off the roads !!!
Post by: idahoelkhunter300wby on December 03, 2011, 06:56:15 PM
Hey just wondering what you were huntin since rifle and bow seasons are closed. :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 03, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
Hi Rick
Hey just wondering what you were huntin since rifle and bow seasons are closed. :dunno:
I was wondering the same. :o
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Post by: Shed Stud on December 03, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
Had to tell you.....:yike:
I was up in the swakane hunting with 2 of my friends today. We did not see one other hunter all day and saw plenty of shooter bucks. It was crazy, came close but snow was to crunchy. You just have to glass and get off the roads !!!
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Post by: Bigtine96 on December 03, 2011, 08:39:19 PM
You won't believe how many people I have run into while scouting Elk in the Clockum that were driving the road or close to the road during deer season over the years that have no idea that it's by permit only. Once I tell them its the same answer ever time " Oh S@%T!!!
Yep gotta love people who are to lazy to read the regs! If your lucky you may get 10 points off of their stupidity :tup:
Post by: idahoelkhunter300wby on December 04, 2011, 06:13:51 AM
Had to tell you.....
I was up in the swakane hunting with 2 of my friends today. We did not see one other hunter all day and saw plenty of shooter bucks. It was crazy, came close but snow was to crunchy. You just have to glass and get off the roads !!!
hunting for coyotes and just looking at big deer.What does this have to do with bow hunting in the Swakane? I would hope that you didnt see too many deer hunters up there yesterday.
Post by: boneaddict on December 04, 2011, 06:43:44 AM
Post by: 400out on December 04, 2011, 07:53:36 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 04, 2011, 09:03:42 AM
You think you are the only ones that have a right to hunt that unit? maybe you will not get drawn for the Swakane for about 8-10 yrs.... then we will hear you bitchin about how the WDFW is screwing you and you can not hunt your favorite hunting area.......
GET REAL GUYS! WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH???????????????????????
Post by: fishingnut71 on December 04, 2011, 02:53:44 PM
Post by: muleyslayer#1 on December 04, 2011, 03:22:26 PM
Who are you bitchin about. Its overcrowed and for a reason. Select east or west wa and be done with it PERIOD!Hey Dude enough with the language there's kids on here that read this stuff. So watch it!!! >:( >:( >:(
Post by: JBar on December 04, 2011, 04:07:01 PM
Who are you bitchin about. Its overcrowed and for a reason. Select east or west wa and be done with it PERIOD!:beatdeadhorse:
Fishnut you've made your point but this thread has been taken way off track from what the OP intended. If you want to have this East/West debate start your own thread!
Post by: TheHunt on December 04, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
Post by: antlerking on December 04, 2011, 06:39:50 PM
Post by: idahoelkhunter300wby on December 04, 2011, 06:42:17 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on December 04, 2011, 07:03:59 PM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on December 04, 2011, 07:26:33 PM
Rifle season is less crowded in the Swakane... the facts prove that wrong... go to the WDFW site and see for yourself.Quote250 - SWAKANE - PMU 26
Archery 4 67 71 0 0 20 37 10 644 11% 3,150 44.4
Modern Firearms 0 87 87 0 1 47 26 13 618 14.1% 2,146 24.7
OK, I looked it up like you said, and it shows 644 archery hunters, and 618 modern firearm hunters, in 2010.
Exactly, as many during modern, when you get over 600 what is 26 hunters...
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on December 04, 2011, 07:27:26 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 04, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
by some of the posts on here, there are still quite a few out there... I need to run over and get me a 10 point bonus for my sheep tag.
You can't use those points for once in a lifetime species. But it sure would help for a good deer or elk permit!
Post by: boonerboy on December 06, 2011, 07:25:41 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on December 07, 2011, 08:59:43 AM
I called a few folks that are hunting the Masson and Swakane... They are still having fun ans slingging arrows.:bash:Slinging arrows huh. If you know who is doing this and YOU do nothing about it, just as guilty. Almost pulled out the "P" word. I will be out and looking for these arrow slingers you speak of today. This has to stop.