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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: jdb on July 13, 2008, 05:30:25 PM

Title: ignition
Post by: jdb on July 13, 2008, 05:30:25 PM: My son and I will be muzzleloading for elk this fall. He shoots a knight with musket caps and 100 gr. pyrodex pellets. I shoot a t/c hawkin and 85 gr. pyrodex loose and use #11 caps. last year we had a big mix up with our caps so this year I want to simplify things and use the same cap on both guns. so do we go muskets or #11'S? JB
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Post by: rackattack on July 13, 2008, 05:32:24 PM: Go with the musket caps. There hotter and easier to handle. :twocents:
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Post by: actionshooter on July 13, 2008, 06:04:58 PM: I use the musket caps on my knight, but I have had problems with them falling off :dunno:
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Post by: wastickslinger on July 13, 2008, 06:34:19 PM: I like the musket caps as well. I have yet to have a misfire.
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Post by: Huckleberry on July 13, 2008, 06:47:47 PM: If you use the #11's make sure they are the ones with green inside. The red ones (like CCI) aren't very hot and if anything gets damp they don't work very well. The green ones also fire hotter so the "delay" between little boom and big boom isn't as noticeable. I haven't had a need to use musket caps yet. Those I know who do hunt with them say they wouldn't go back.

My one question with musket caps is how they are constructed. I use nail polish over the cap/nipple to ensure a water tight seal and make sure it doesn't fall off. With the flared edges of a musket cap could you still do this or would the shape prevent it?
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Post by: actionshooter on July 13, 2008, 09:08:48 PM: Quote from: Huckleberry on July 13, 2008, 06:47:47 PM
If you use the #11's make sure they are the ones with green inside. The red ones (like CCI) aren't very hot and if anything gets damp they don't work very well. The green ones also fire hotter so the "delay" between little boom and big boom isn't as noticeable. I haven't had a need to use musket caps yet. Those I know who do hunt with them say they wouldn't go back.

My one question with musket caps is how they are constructed. I use nail polish over the cap/nipple to ensure a water tight seal and make sure it doesn't fall off. With the flared edges of a musket cap could you still do this or would the shape prevent it?

When I use #11 I use the green, RWS, they do seem hotter.

With the musket caps I don't think you can use the nail polish trick.
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Post by: follow maggie on July 13, 2008, 09:43:14 PM: I switched to the musket cap a couple years ago, and it solved the nasty misfire problem I had. The gun would go boom 1/2 the time. With the musket cap, it goes boom every time.
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Post by: CP on July 14, 2008, 07:09:40 AM: I’ve been considering trying musket caps but with the comments above I think I’ll hold off on that. I use CCI magnum #11 caps and they work fine. Zero delay between little bang and big bang, just one bang. The few misfires that I have had were my fault, either:
1.   The red chemical in the cap had fallen out and I didn’t notice
2.   I didn’t clear the oil from the nipple and snail by snapping a couple caps prior to loading
3.   I didn’t put any powder in :-[

I use FFFg powder in my .54 – I know this isn’t recommended but I spoke with a Hodgdon technician and that’s what he uses. He of course gave the usual disclaimer to follow their recommended practices and if I blow myself up they have no liability, etc. The finer powder flows all the way to the base of the nipple for an instant light and I use less than a 100 grains, nowhere near the max for my rifle, so overcharge should not be a issue.

The only complaint I have about the #11 caps are that they are small and hard to handle.
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Post by: wastickslinger on July 14, 2008, 11:01:42 AM: Actionshooter, pich it a little bit before you put it on. Makes it fit real snug. I think all guns have the same issue with the musket. That is the only issue I have had. Much better than fumbling with those tiny #11's.
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Post by: Sagedawg on July 14, 2008, 03:31:47 PM: yeah what he said, a slight pinch will hold it on nice and tight.

Sage