Post by: Drop-tine on December 10, 2011, 12:22:33 PM
Post by: FC on December 10, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 11, 2011, 12:02:40 PM
Rainierarms.com
There is a complete world to itself when it comes to AR's. I have built my own for the last 15 or so years. 5.56, 6x45, 6.5 Grendel, .204 Ruger. You can take it from the basic's to burn your wallet up! You can run a basic lower with a hotrod upper, or go the other direction. Simple to do, if you are new to AR's and haven't spent much time breaking one down or haven't built one in the past. Bushmaster does a excellent DVD, from start to finish on every assembly process pertaining to the AR. A great DVD for the beginner, I picked up several for friends years ago when they decided to build their own, instead of purchasing factory AR's. Most high end performance AR's can be built for allot less than some of the highend builders charge. Especially if one lurks in the parts classifieds on sites such as AR15.com and Snipershide.com.
Uppers come and go, I like to keep my lowers around. Match triggers, enidine buffers, anti rotation pins, blah, blah, blah etc.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FIMG_4409.jpg&hash=71ecafee4c84ccf4d750eb775473c03947e1ee10)
Good luck, it's a blast! :rockin:
Post by: Jekemi on December 12, 2011, 07:44:29 AM
Post by: thinkingman on December 12, 2011, 09:25:11 AM
Resist the urge to go with the trendy collapsible buttstock.
Some people think they look cool but your shooting will suffer.
You wil want a fast twist rate, 1/8, or 1/7 to shoot heavier pills.
I like 1/8 myself.
A scope with a 4x erector will give you more options for ranging, from in-close calling to reaching out to touch one.
A good trigger is also critical....I like Rock River two-stage.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 12, 2011, 05:25:24 PM
If you're shooting longer ranges, 200yd or more, I'd look into a dedicated upper. SW and LMT are better know for military/defense packages. White Oak Armor and Rock River are better known for long distance accuracy.
Resist the urge to go with the trendy collapsible buttstock.
Some people think they look cool but your shooting will suffer.
You wil want a fast twist rate, 1/8, or 1/7 to shoot heavier pills.
I like 1/8 myself.
A scope with a 4x erector will give you more options for ranging, from in-close calling to reaching out to touch one.
A good trigger is also critical....I like Rock River two-stage.
Ha ha, trendy calapsable. What do you Use when exiting a vehicle, clearing your house and slicing the pie. A PRS??? Trendy my ass, two completely different applications!
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 12, 2011, 05:51:15 PM
Post by: demontang on December 12, 2011, 07:33:59 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 12, 2011, 08:36:08 PM
Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 12, 2011, 08:40:58 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 12, 2011, 09:08:30 PM
I have always had outstanding luck with my bushmasters :tup: I am also running a r-25 and have had great luck with it. Of course it is built by remingtons sister company dpms :tup: Then the r-15 is built by the other sister bushmaster :tup:
They are all owned by Cerberus now. Guess Cerberus figures Obama won't screw them out of gun companys the way he screwed them out of Chrysler.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 12, 2011, 09:10:04 PM
Post by: FC on December 12, 2011, 09:56:54 PM
Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Post by: thinkingman on December 13, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
I'm looking into getting a nice ar-15 for a coyote gun, I have been using my 257 roberts and am kind of getting bored using it for yotes. I was wondering if anyone would have some good input on a nice ar, I have been looking at the smith & wesson and the LMT, any help would be great thanksI'll stick to the question the OP asked.
It doesn't sound like he wants to be a mall ninja pretending to be clearing mud huts wearing body armor.
Piston upper? What's the round count on your last coyote hunt?
See how many precision shooters have collapsible buttstocks?
When I think coyote, I think of shots of 20yds at the caller to 300yds on a wary old dog.
Good optics that have magnification range from 2.5x to 14x.
Post by: thinkingman on December 13, 2011, 09:39:32 AM
1911If you're shooting longer ranges, 200yd or more, I'd look into a dedicated upper. SW and LMT are better know for military/defense packages. White Oak Armor and Rock River are better known for long distance accuracy.
Resist the urge to go with the trendy collapsible buttstock.
Some people think they look cool but your shooting will suffer.
You wil want a fast twist rate, 1/8, or 1/7 to shoot heavier pills.
I like 1/8 myself.
A scope with a 4x erector will give you more options for ranging, from in-close calling to reaching out to touch one.
A good trigger is also critical....I like Rock River two-stage.
Ha ha, trendy calapsable. What do you Use when exiting a vehicle, clearing your house and slicing the pie. A PRS??? Trendy my ass, two completely different applications!
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 13, 2011, 04:49:24 PM
Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
Post by: thinkingman on December 13, 2011, 09:04:51 PM
What exactly is the benefit of a piston for a coyote rifle?Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
My chromed bcg has little to no carbon build up.
Maybe it's the ammo you're shooting...try some better ammo and you'll have less carbon build up.
BTW, I don't plan on ever being on the 'business end of a carbine'...that's for the other dumb sucker.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 13, 2011, 09:28:59 PM
What exactly is the benefit of a piston for a coyote rifle?Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
My chromed bcg has little to no carbon build up.
Maybe it's the ammo you're shooting...try some better ammo and you'll have less carbon build up.
BTW, I don't plan on ever being on the 'business end of a carbine'...that's for the other dumb sucker.
Like I said, not much time on the buisness end of a carbine, some people's children. You are correct, by the wording of your post. You will never come close to firing enough rounds out of a AR in your lifetime to justify the use of a piston system. :chuckle: Must suck, I USE MY CHIT!!
Post by: thinkingman on December 13, 2011, 10:38:36 PM
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
Post by: FC on December 13, 2011, 11:06:13 PM
Not everyone is as impressed with Adams as you are.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/374524_Adams_Arms_Gas_Piston_System.html
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
:yeah: That sums it up pretty well!
Piston systems are pretty well known for carrier tilt, causing premature wear on the upper receiver but then you already knew that...right?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
If you are having issues with carbon in a direct impingement AR I can only assume you never learned to clean one properly, pretty simple gun that has been around for a long time now. Just about the easiest gun I own to clean and maintain, if you are having problems maybe you should look for some instructional youtube videos or something. :tup:
Post by: JJB11B on December 13, 2011, 11:13:25 PM
Post by: FC on December 13, 2011, 11:17:08 PM
I think I have had this Argument before... if you want an easy gun to clean get an AK, if you want to kill chit passed 200 yds get an AR. :twocents:
My AK is really the one that carbons up! The plus side is that I don't really know if it ever actually needs to be cleaned :chuckle: :chuckle: I do it anyway but I think I could leave it in a river for a few years without impacting the rifle's function.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 14, 2011, 12:00:14 AM
I will just have you guys build me one with all this talk :chuckle: :tup:
Post by: FC on December 14, 2011, 12:26:40 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 14, 2011, 12:36:00 AM
They certainly are easy to build.
Well maybe I can you build me a lower and biggerhammer build the upper! then you guys could be buddies and work togther :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 11:36:49 AM
Not everyone is as impressed with Adams as you are.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/374524_Adams_Arms_Gas_Piston_System.html
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
Maybe you should do a bit more shooting and a little less reading. Gotta love the " Internet expert " types. :chuckle: I wouldn't even know what a box of Wolf ammo looks like. Remember I'm one of the factory ammo is for sissy's type but then again you already know that.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 11:39:38 AM
They certainly are easy to build.
Well maybe I can you build me a lower and biggerhammer build the upper! then you guys could be buddies and work togther :chuckle:
He would need a box of bandaids and his momma to drive him home. :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 11:47:25 AM
Not everyone is as impressed with Adams as you are.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/374524_Adams_Arms_Gas_Piston_System.html
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
You read like the type of guy to hang Airsoft furniture on his AR, the type of guy that wants to look cool but save a buck. Piston systems are to steep such types. Always a excuse not to spend the extra $$$$ though. Suppose you shoot a Tikka also. HA HA HA HA HA!
:yeah: That sums it up pretty well!
Piston systems are pretty well known for carrier tilt, causing premature wear on the upper receiver but then you already knew that...right?Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
If you are having issues with carbon in a direct impingement AR I can only assume you never learned to clean one properly, pretty simple gun that has been around for a long time now. Just about the easiest gun I own to clean and maintain, if you are having problems maybe you should look for some instructional youtube videos or something. :tup:
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 14, 2011, 11:52:17 AM
If I was in the just killin mood I would skip the AR and buy a .408 Cheytac toped with a Night force scope. Deadly well past 1000yds.....Just sayin... :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 12:07:06 PM
Question is do want to just kill yote's or do you want the hide???
If I was in the just killin mood I would skip the AR and buy a .408 Cheytac toped with a Night force scope. Deadly well past 1000yds.....Just sayin...
Your the first guy I have ever seen post " Just Sayin " I've read it plenty of times in texts from women. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 14, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
Question is do want to just kill yote's or do you want the hide???
If I was in the just killin mood I would skip the AR and buy a .408 Cheytac toped with a Night force scope. Deadly well past 1000yds.....Just sayin...
Your the first guy I have ever seen post " Just Sayin " I've read it plenty of times in texts from women. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Im secure enough :IBCOOL: I can pretty much say anything without worrying to much about it....thanks for the concern though :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
Question is do want to just kill yote's or do you want the hide???
If I was in the just killin mood I would skip the AR and buy a .408 Cheytac toped with a Night force scope. Deadly well past 1000yds.....Just sayin...
Your the first guy I have ever seen post " Just Sayin " I've read it plenty of times in texts from women. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Im secure enough :IBCOOL: I can pretty much say anything without worrying to much about it....thanks for the concern though :chuckle:
Anytime! If you need me to hold your hand and help you work through the confussion, I'm there for you buddy! :o
Post by: FC on December 14, 2011, 01:19:11 PM
You read like the type of guy to hang Airsoft furniture on his AR, the type of guy that wants to look cool but save a buck. Piston systems are to steep such types. Always a excuse not to spend the extra $$$$ though. Suppose you shoot a Tikka also. HA HA HA HA HA!
:yeah: That sums it up pretty well!
You read like someone who likes to play the bigshot...
Why would I hang anything on my AR? I am not a ninja nor do I hang out at shopping malls...You would know more about that than I obviously!
Piston systems are a waste of money and do actual damage to the rifle, it wasn't designed with them in mind. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would know this. Cost has nothing to do with the gas system on my AR, sense does. Not only is it a damaging add-on but there is no reason to actually have it!
I do own a tikka, lightweight, deadly accurate with a good trigger, fantastic for dragging through the brush..What's not to like?
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 01:37:53 PM
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 01:49:31 PM
I do remember...that's why I suggested some quality factory-loaded ammo like the Black Hills the AMU shoots out of their DI AR's.Not everyone is as impressed with Adams as you are.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/374524_Adams_Arms_Gas_Piston_System.html
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
Maybe you should do a bit more shooting and a little less reading. Gotta love the " Internet expert " types. :chuckle: I wouldn't even know what a box of Wolf ammo looks like. Remember I'm one of the factory ammo is for sissy's type but then again you already know that.
I read somewhere on the interwebs they know a little something about AR's.
Google 'Mk 262'
Just sayin'.....(wearing my pink sweater and skinny jeans, Italian loafers)
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 01:51:35 PM
I am enjoying this...one because I am interested in a little black gun..but mainly because I do not believe there is a bigger chavinistic pig on this forum than biggerhammer and truly that username just makes me wonder...are you really this mean and nasty or is it a game? Because its almost scripted from the napoleon complex playbook :dunno:
I as wondering when you were going to hop on this, never to far away when it comes to these threads. :dunno: Almost as if I have my own Hunt WA groupie. :chuckle:
It very simple, the gas system has worked on the AR platform since its beginning. I feel along with many others that the piston system has huge benefits and has improved the AR platform greatly. In no way have I insulted anyones standard gas system use. But I do find it commical when I mention a proven piston system, I get the word/ words " Trendy " or " I read ". From posters who I imagine have never even driven a AR with such system. True keyboard pro's :chuckle: Ignorance is the most insulting of buffers.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 01:56:13 PM
I am enjoying this...one because I am interested in a little black gun..but mainly because I do not believe there is a bigger chavinistic pig on this forum than biggerhammer and truly that username just makes me wonder...are you really this mean and nasty or is it a game? Because its almost scripted from the napoleon complex playbook :dunno:
By the way, have you shot anything yet? ;)
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 02:00:04 PM
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Fixed it for ya!
(you have to be pretty confident in your masculinity to type 'ya!')
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:05:53 PM
Smallflaccidhammer typed"It very simple, the factory ammunition has worked on the AR platform since its beginning. I feel along with many others that the factory ammunition has huge benefits and has improved the accuracy and function of the AR platform greatly. In no way have I insulted anyones hack attempts at reloading. But I do find it commical when I mention a Tikka, I get the word/ words " sissy " or "chit". From posters who I imagine have never even shot a Tikka. True keyboard pro's :chuckle: Ignorance is the most insulting of buffers.Fixed it for ya!
(you have to be pretty confident in your masculinity to type 'ya!')
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You enjoy that Tikka and the conversation with yourself concerning ammo. That's your obsession, you haven't a clue what I run.
Post by: Caseyd on December 14, 2011, 02:06:13 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
Is this the "my grandpa can kick your grandpas a** thread" :chuckle:
No, this is the run your suck about a piston system that some have only read about and babble about ammunition that has nothing to do with one liking the piston system over the standard gas system conversation. I imagine from a guy that never has run a AR to the point his face and grip hand were black from the gasses on a standard system, time and time again. If he had ever done so, then he would understand the bennifits of a piston system and the lack of crap in your face and bolt carrier group. Rather hard to argue that unless you have nothing better to do but argue.
What do I know? I'm just a "chauvinistic pig". :cryriver:
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 02:24:29 PM
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 14, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
No I havent kiled anything yet...it is also well known I am an emotional mess prone to feeling and not always thinking....and I would trade who I am to be someone else on damn near most days..... but you seem to get off making cheap shots.....and truth is not one person on here has any reason to believe you are actually any more real than those you so quickly claim are internet experts....so are you a manufacturer of any brands or are you a gun smith with a shop we could check out...or any chance you run the armory for a local base...or maybe you compete in one of the many competitive shooting circles :dunno: because some of these people you have called out have these types of credentials and yet you are some dude with obviously lots of money to spend on pretty guns....but why is it we should consider you an expert?
Wow! Lost me on that one. Better look up the definition of " Called out " because I havent seen any of that from either side of the fence. There is medications for the prior mentioned issues concerning yourself in your above post. I wish you the best of luck.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:32:52 PM
Maybe some people just have to justifly spending a *censored* ton of money to fix something that ain't broke.
Money must be a issue here, it keeps coming up again and again. :dunno:
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 02:39:40 PM
No I havent kiled anything yet...it is also well known I am an emotional mess prone to feeling and not always thinking....and I would trade who I am to be someone else on damn near most days..... but you seem to get off making cheap shots.....and truth is not one person on here has any reason to believe you are actually any more real than those you so quickly claim are internet experts....so are you a manufacturer of any brands or are you a gun smith with a shop we could check out...or any chance you run the armory for a local base...or maybe you compete in one of the many competitive shooting circles :dunno: because some of these people you have called out have these types of credentials and yet you are some dude with obviously lots of money to spend on pretty guns....but why is it we should consider you an expert?
Wow! Lost me on that one. Better look up the definition of " Called out " because I havent seen any of that from either side of the fence. There is medications for the prior mentioned issues concerning yourself in your above post. I wish you the best of luck.
Wow, keep digging that hole deeper hammerless. You are messing with someone that has been a part of this forum for a long long time... she is like family on here, and you still did not even answer her question ... what makes you the resident expert over the the competition shooters, military personnel, gunsmiths, or any one else.....
Post by: FC on December 14, 2011, 02:40:15 PM
No, this is the run your suck about a piston system that some have only read about and babble about ammunition that has nothing to do with one liking the piston system over the standard gas system conversation. I imagine from a guy that never has run a AR to the point his face and grip hand were black from the gasses on a standard system, time and time again. If he had ever done so, then he would understand the bennifits of a piston system and the lack of crap in your face and bolt carrier group. Rather hard to argue that unless you have nothing better to do but argue.
You do come up with some interesting assertions, I'll give you credit for that.
I've shot M16's and AR's both to the point where I had powder soot on my face and hands, the difference is in how many times you get to do that before you toast the upper receiver by using a piston kit unless you tailor a hand-load that will actually keep the BCG's rearward velocity down enough that it won't tilt and destroy the upper receiver in short order.
I think the one most amusing thing that I noticed about piston driven AR's is that if you shoot them a lot you will get just as much soot on your face as you would shooting a direct impingement AR. Line up two guys and have them start shooting, one gets a DI and the other gets a piston gun, after 1500 rounds we can do a white glove test on faces and hands. Hopefully the piston gun made it without needing any overhauls...
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 02:41:02 PM
What I am saying is Why should what you say rate at all? Who are you? I've seen you argue with gunsmiths, competitive shooters etc, so why should anyone here think anything you say isnt just internet cool guy stuff? For that matter you could be like some of the people who "borrow" others images and maybe none of those fancy guns are really even yours...
And no thanks I prefer to just be crazy its my role in life...I am the nuttier than a fruitcake one ...
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
No I havent kiled anything yet...it is also well known I am an emotional mess prone to feeling and not always thinking....and I would trade who I am to be someone else on damn near most days..... but you seem to get off making cheap shots.....and truth is not one person on here has any reason to believe you are actually any more real than those you so quickly claim are internet experts....so are you a manufacturer of any brands or are you a gun smith with a shop we could check out...or any chance you run the armory for a local base...or maybe you compete in one of the many competitive shooting circles :dunno: because some of these people you have called out have these types of credentials and yet you are some dude with obviously lots of money to spend on pretty guns....but why is it we should consider you an expert?
Wow! Lost me on that one. Better look up the definition of " Called out " because I havent seen any of that from either side of the fence. There is medications for the prior mentioned issues concerning yourself in your above post. I wish you the best of luck.
Wow, keep digging that hole deeper hammerless. You are messing with someone that has been a part of this forum for a long long time... she is like family on here, and you still did not even answer her question ... what makes you the resident expert over the the competition shooters, military personnel, gunsmiths, or any one else.....
No messing with anyone, read her first post on this thread. It had nothing constructive to say about a direct system or a piston system. It's complete subject matter was, in her own words " Cheap shots " and in my own words " Rambleing " What is to be expected when she acts as such?
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 02:51:20 PM
Carbon buildup is a direct result of ammo. Whether that residue stops your weapon or not is a weapon design issue. Moving parts mean more likelihood of failure. I'd personally rather have a crap ton of powder on my hands and face then a little bit stop my weapon. If you were willing to spend the money for the completely custom job there is a way to make the upper push way more carbon out the barrel and it won't jam. In fact the hotter the barrel gets the cleaner the upper and the better the gas system performs. If money is no object why haven't you gone that route?
To clarify I'm not actually picking a fight with anyone, I enjoy the banter from all the major players here.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:51:52 PM
Yes you like to show off your money.......we all see that
What I am saying is Why should what you say rate at all? Who are you? I've seen you argue with gunsmiths, competitive shooters etc, so why should anyone here think anything you say isnt just internet cool guy stuff? For that matter you could be like some of the people who "borrow" others images and maybe none of those fancy guns are really even yours...
And no thanks I prefer to just be crazy its my role in life...I am the nuttier than a fruitcake one ...
After enough time one learns. Buy once, cry once, some people it takes a little longer and some never get it at all. I am lost with your " Showing off money " statement, rather inappropriate. I haven tout a dallor value to anything I've replied to or posted.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:54:36 PM
Shot plenty of rounds through the DI system and the "Indirect gas" method. Don't see any mechanical reason to fix something that ain't broke. You're ar can suck it though. None of them hold a candle to my baby. Belt fed, gas operated, fully automatic 7.62 beast of a 240h. Hey... that replaced the constantly malfunctioning piston driven system m60 didn't it? Hmmmm...
Carbon buildup is a direct result of ammo. Whether that residue stops your weapon or not is a weapon design issue. Moving parts mean more likelihood of failure. I'd personally rather have a crap ton of powder on my hands and face then a little bit stop my weapon. If you were willing to spend the money for the completely custom job there is a way to make the upper push way more carbon out the barrel and it won't jam. In fact the hotter the barrel gets the cleaner the upper and the better the gas system performs. If money is no object why haven't you gone that route?
To clarify I'm not actually picking a fight with anyone, I enjoy the banter from all the major players here.
Now that's one of the best replies yet. :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Yes you like to show off your money.......we all see that
What I am saying is Why should what you say rate at all? Who are you? I've seen you argue with gunsmiths, competitive shooters etc, so why should anyone here think anything you say isnt just internet cool guy stuff? For that matter you could be like some of the people who "borrow" others images and maybe none of those fancy guns are really even yours...
And no thanks I prefer to just be crazy its my role in life...I am the nuttier than a fruitcake one ...
I like nutty women..........becuase I'm fairly nutty myself.
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 14, 2011, 02:55:44 PM
Its not an issue of not having it, I would rather spend it on something else (ammo or another weapon). As for realiabilty, I have on occasion put 300 to 500 rounds through a rifle before I really needed to clean it (not at one sitting, I just hate cleaning the thing). Often this type of stress is never put on a weapon, therefore I do not see the need for a piston gun, except to show off that you have money to waste or the need for every new thing to ever come out. Didn't read all the post so maybe I missed the mark on this one, but I doubt it.Maybe some people just have to justifly spending a *censored* ton of money to fix something that ain't broke.
Money must be a issue here, it keeps coming up again and again. :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 02:56:31 PM
Yes you like to show off your money.......we all see that
What I am saying is Why should what you say rate at all? Who are you? I've seen you argue with gunsmiths, competitive shooters etc, so why should anyone here think anything you say isnt just internet cool guy stuff? For that matter you could be like some of the people who "borrow" others images and maybe none of those fancy guns are really even yours...
And no thanks I prefer to just be crazy its my role in life...I am the nuttier than a fruitcake one ...
I like nutty women..........becuase I'm fairly nutty myself.
It's all good. :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 02:59:56 PM
Yes you like to show off your money.......we all see that
What I am saying is Why should what you say rate at all? Who are you? I've seen you argue with gunsmiths, competitive shooters etc, so why should anyone here think anything you say isnt just internet cool guy stuff? For that matter you could be like some of the people who "borrow" others images and maybe none of those fancy guns are really even yours...
And no thanks I prefer to just be crazy its my role in life...I am the nuttier than a fruitcake one ...
I like nutty women..........becuase I'm fairly nutty myself.
It's all good. :tup:
Keep it going, but first I need some more beer and popcorn................Ok, I'm back :tup:
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 03:06:25 PM
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 03:08:06 PM
and for a manly topic like little black guns this sure draws a lot of drama...
and I am a girl gonna drink tea...earl grey...hot....and black.....just how I like my guns :) campmeat got any more popcorn
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
Ok so we are discussing the pros and cons of building an AR....and out come some components by brand and type....few clicks of the google and bingo bango I found a price....so while mr hammer doesnt specifically say I spent yada blah blah by saying I only use such and whats parts on a whozeits this or that....anyone with a calculator can figure A rough idea of the guns cost as built to mr hammers exacting standards ......and those components are expensive.....thus the money comment....which along with the napoleon complex comment seem to bother you..... :dunno:
and for a manly topic like little black guns this sure draws a lot of drama...
and I am a girl gonna drink tea...earl grey...hot....and black.....just how I like my guns :) campmeat got any more popcorn
Why yes, yes I do. But it's Jolly Time, The Big Chezzy, Ultimate Cheese. It's really crappy, but it grows on ya ! Still want some ? You ever have Grand Marnier in your Earl Grey ? It's gooooooooooood !
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
no I havent tried grand marnier in my earl grey but bet that would be yummy....cheesy popcorn...hmmmm will pass on that ....I was gonna make brownies.....regular style no hippy seasonings :chuckle:Ok so we are discussing the pros and cons of building an AR....and out come some components by brand and type....few clicks of the google and bingo bango I found a price....so while mr hammer doesnt specifically say I spent yada blah blah by saying I only use such and whats parts on a whozeits this or that....anyone with a calculator can figure A rough idea of the guns cost as built to mr hammers exacting standards ......and those components are expensive.....thus the money comment....which along with the napoleon complex comment seem to bother you..... :dunno:
and for a manly topic like little black guns this sure draws a lot of drama...
and I am a girl gonna drink tea...earl grey...hot....and black.....just how I like my guns :) campmeat got any more popcorn
Why yes, yes I do. But it's Jolly Time, The Big Chezzy, Ultimate Cheese. It's really crappy, but it grows on ya ! Still want some ? You ever have Grand Marnier in your Earl Grey ? It's gooooooooooood !
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 03:27:33 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 03:28:53 PM
Grand Marnier in just about anything is freaking awesome.... pass some popcorn please... :chuckle:
Maybe I'll switch to that. Hmmmmmmmmm ?
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 03:30:22 PM
Ok so we are discussing the pros and cons of building an AR....and out come some components by brand and type....few clicks of the google and bingo bango I found a price....so while mr hammer doesnt specifically say I spent yada blah blah by saying I only use such and whats parts on a whozeits this or that....anyone with a calculator can figure A rough idea of the guns cost as built to mr hammers exacting standards ......and those components are expensive.....thus the money comment....which along with the napoleon complex comment seem to bother you..... :dunno:
and for a manly topic like little black guns this sure draws a lot of drama...
and I am a girl gonna drink tea...earl grey...hot....and black.....just how I like my guns :) campmeat got any more popcorn
" We were discussing ". Do you have a mouse in your pocket ? Because you were no discussing the pros and cons of a thing to do with the piston or direct system conceding the AR. You were rambling about screen names, price tags and Nepoleon. " Bother me " No, distracting and somewhat comically annoying yes. It's all good, maybe your tea wasn't the right temperature and nobody was around for you to vent on, so you chose me. That's ok , that's what us men are here for. Some of us understand that and let it roll right off us. Who knows ????
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 03:32:16 PM
no I havent tried grand marnier in my earl grey but bet that would be yummy....cheesy popcorn...hmmmm will pass on that ....I was gonna make brownies.....regular style no hippy seasonings :chuckle:Ok so we are discussing the pros and cons of building an AR....and out come some components by brand and type....few clicks of the google and bingo bango I found a price....so while mr hammer doesnt specifically say I spent yada blah blah by saying I only use such and whats parts on a whozeits this or that....anyone with a calculator can figure A rough idea of the guns cost as built to mr hammers exacting standards ......and those components are expensive.....thus the money comment....which along with the napoleon complex comment seem to bother you..... :dunno:
and for a manly topic like little black guns this sure draws a lot of drama...
and I am a girl gonna drink tea...earl grey...hot....and black.....just how I like my guns :) campmeat got any more popcorn
Why yes, yes I do. But it's Jolly Time, The Big Chezzy, Ultimate Cheese. It's really crappy, but it grows on ya ! Still want some ? You ever have Grand Marnier in your Earl Grey ? It's gooooooooooood !
I bet hippie brownies would make me even nuttier..........well, maybe not ! I've already been diagnosed with an attitude of some sort. But, I don't care. :tup:
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 03:44:38 PM
I know who some of the others are and their credentials.....so seriously who are you?
and we dont need to revisit my need for medications my lack of any knowledge etc...I know just how much I do not matter and I know I am not an expert at anything.....but hey thanks for annoying me just enough to want to live through the rest of this day if no reason other than to annoy you in return.....
Does anyone on this forum of approx...7000 or so people actually know who mr hammer is? :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 03:48:09 PM
well you are right I wasnt discussing I was reading along following an interesting conversation that you decided to do what you seem to do best turn into internet expert.....and again you dodge my question.....who are you that makes you an expert?
I know who some of the others are and their credentials.....so seriously who are you?
and we dont need to revisit my need for medications my lack of any knowledge etc...I know just how much I do not matter and I know I am not an expert at anything.....but hey thanks for annoying me just enough to want to live through the rest of this day if no reason other than to annoy you in return.....
Does anyone on this forum of approx...7000 or so people actually know who mr hammer is? :dunno:
blah, blah, blah, blah.. Seams as if you have your own little obsession thing going here. Guess I'll go out to the shop and tinker with my over priced chit.
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 14, 2011, 03:50:17 PM
Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
I think if I'm ever on the "business end" of an AR, I'll have more pressing things to think about than to appreciate its fine piston system, installed by the good people at Adam Arms.
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 03:51:06 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 03:53:51 PM
Nobody knows who he is. Then again I don't know who anyone on here is.
I don't even know who I am .............where am I ?
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:
I think if I'm ever on the "business end" of an AR, I'll have more pressing things to think about than to appreciate its fine piston system, installed by the good people at Adam Arms.
That would be the "Recieving end". :o
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 03:57:35 PM
Nobody knows who he is. Then again I don't know who anyone on here is.
Hey Wraithen, how do you do... I am Huntbear..
See now you know someone on here.. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 04:00:38 PM
OP! Build a moderate AR. If you decide you want something more or better or more better you can change things out. Sell off what you don't like. If you decide you hate your ar you can usually get someone to buy it used for what it cost you to build it.
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
well you are right I wasnt discussing I was reading along following an interesting conversation that you decided to do what you seem to do best turn into internet expert.....and again you dodge my question.....who are you that makes you an expert?
I know who some of the others are and their credentials.....so seriously who are you?
and we dont need to revisit my need for medications my lack of any knowledge etc...I know just how much I do not matter and I know I am not an expert at anything.....but hey thanks for annoying me just enough to want to live through the rest of this day if no reason other than to annoy you in return.....
Does anyone on this forum of approx...7000 or so people actually know who mr hammer is? :dunno:
blah, blah, blah, blah.. Seams as if you have your own little obsession thing going here. Guess I'll go out to the shop and tinker with my over priced chit.
so Mr ambush biggerhammer has no credentials but knows more about building an AR than anyone else on here? :dunno: just making sure I got your answer right...... cool have fun in the shop cant wait to see what you build next ...is it gonna debut on world of warcraft commercials anytime soon maybe :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
well you are right I wasnt discussing I was reading along following an interesting conversation that you decided to do what you seem to do best turn into internet expert.....and again you dodge my question.....who are you that makes you an expert?
I know who some of the others are and their credentials.....so seriously who are you?
and we dont need to revisit my need for medications my lack of any knowledge etc...I know just how much I do not matter and I know I am not an expert at anything.....but hey thanks for annoying me just enough to want to live through the rest of this day if no reason other than to annoy you in return.....
Does anyone on this forum of approx...7000 or so people actually know who mr hammer is? :dunno:
blah, blah, blah, blah.. Seams as if you have your own little obsession thing going here. Guess I'll go out to the shop and tinker with my over priced chit.
so Mr ambush biggerhammer has no credentials but knows more about building an AR than anyone else on here? :dunno: just making sure I got your answer right...... cool have fun in the shop cant wait to see what you build next ...is it gonna debut on world of warcraft commercials anytime soon maybe :dunno:
Self control is right out the window here, worked yourself into a fairly good little frenzy. :chuckle:
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 04:08:41 PM
well you are right I wasnt discussing I was reading along following an interesting conversation that you decided to do what you seem to do best turn into internet expert.....and again you dodge my question.....who are you that makes you an expert?
I know who some of the others are and their credentials.....so seriously who are you?
and we dont need to revisit my need for medications my lack of any knowledge etc...I know just how much I do not matter and I know I am not an expert at anything.....but hey thanks for annoying me just enough to want to live through the rest of this day if no reason other than to annoy you in return.....
Does anyone on this forum of approx...7000 or so people actually know who mr hammer is? :dunno:
blah, blah, blah, blah.. Seams as if you have your own little obsession thing going here. Guess I'll go out to the shop and tinker with my over priced chit.
so Mr ambush biggerhammer has no credentials but knows more about building an AR than anyone else on here? :dunno: just making sure I got your answer right...... cool have fun in the shop cant wait to see what you build next ...is it gonna debut on world of warcraft commercials anytime soon maybe :dunno:
Self control is right out the window here, worked yourself into a fairly good little freenzy. :chuckle:
naw frenzy was earlier when I cared I have reached honey badger status and anymore really dont give a shi_t was just continuing because it was amusing....and you still seem unable to explain how you came by your vast knowledge......
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 04:10:56 PM
Post by: Caseyd on December 14, 2011, 04:12:40 PM
How many years experience do you have with AR's?
Past or present professional jobs that relate to AR's?
Im not doubting anything you say, just nice for an amateur like me to know he is actually listening to someone well educated on the ins and outs :dunno:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 04:13:27 PM
well you are right I wasnt discussing I was reading along following an interesting conversation that you decided to do what you seem to do best turn into internet expert.....and again you dodge my question.....who are you that makes you an expert?
I know who some of the others are and their credentials.....so seriously who are you?
and we dont need to revisit my need for medications my lack of any knowledge etc...I know just how much I do not matter and I know I am not an expert at anything.....but hey thanks for annoying me just enough to want to live through the rest of this day if no reason other than to annoy you in return.....
Does anyone on this forum of approx...7000 or so people actually know who mr hammer is? :dunno:
blah, blah, blah, blah.. Seams as if you have your own little obsession thing going here. Guess I'll go out to the shop and tinker with my over priced chit.
so Mr ambush biggerhammer has no credentials but knows more about building an AR than anyone else on here? :dunno: just making sure I got your answer right...... cool have fun in the shop cant wait to see what you build next ...is it gonna debut on world of warcraft commercials anytime soon maybe :dunno:
Self control is right out the window here, worked yourself into a fairly good little freenzy. :chuckle:
naw frenzy was earlier when I cared I have reached honey badger status and anymore really dont give a shi_t was just continuing because it was amusing....and you still seem unable to explain how you came by your vast knowledge......
:chuckle: :chuckle: :'(
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 04:15:19 PM
this might be why I think I figured out who he is :dunno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo)
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 04:15:41 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 04:18:15 PM
caseyd thats the thing he made sure to dis everyone else but couldnt seem to explain why he knows so much more than them......
this might be why I think I figured out who he is :dunno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo)
No, it's what you have inquired about and are obsessed with. You don't even own a AR, you are way off tangent and seamingly unaware of the same.
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 04:19:14 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 04:23:07 PM
Oh, and just to clarify I am not some redneck dip*censored*... I am a fully trained gunsmith.. was actually an instructor after graduating at Colorado School of Trades.
Didn't know anyone was asking or cared. :chuckle: :chuckle:, but if it makes you feel better, more power to you.
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
caseyd thats the thing he made sure to dis everyone else but couldnt seem to explain why he knows so much more than them......
this might be why I think I figured out who he is :dunno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo)
No, it's what you have inquired about and are obsessed with. You don't even own a AR, you are way off tangent and seamingly unaware of the same.
Oh I know I am off tangent...however if we must play this little game...No I dont own an AR and in fact hated said little black guns until knowledgeable people took the time to show me they are a good gun and I was able to see them in action and realized they could be kinda fun even if they are remarkably ugly and look like all they are for is killing people......you see I will eventually have one it may take me some time and planning but I will have one and I pay attention to discussions ....often discussions I never say a word in.....you just said some BS and rubbed me wrong with your manner .... the know it all who says
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Dedicated technology is my vote for a custom ar15 otherewise unless you want a piston driven I will stick to olympic arms.
Adam Arms and sexy piston uppers. :tup:
Now you are being trendy! Why waste money on that?
Trendy?? Abviously you have not spent much time on the buisness end of a carbine to truly understand the benefits of a piston system and a appreciation for a company (Adam Arms) that has nearly perfected it and builds a superior piston system. Some people enjoy carbon build up on their bolts and bolt carriers, some of us don't have to worry about it. :chuckle:Quote
What exactly is the benefit of a piston for a coyote rifle?
My chromed bcg has little to no carbon build up.
Maybe it's the ammo you're shooting...try some better ammo and you'll have less carbon build up.
BTW, I don't plan on ever being on the 'business end of a carbine'...that's for the other dumb sucker.
Like I said, not much time on the buisness end of a carbine, some people's children. You are correct, by the wording of your post. You will never come close to firing enough rounds out of a AR in your lifetime to justify the use of a piston system. :chuckle: Must suck, I USE MY CHIT!!
so back to the question you never answered kinda like the credentials one you also never answered
What exactly is the benefit of a piston for a coyote rifle?
I am pretty sure the business end of a gun is the end bullets come out... :dunno:
Post by: 87Ford on December 14, 2011, 04:35:24 PM
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 04:36:51 PM
Has to be.
Same phony bravado
Same raging insecurity
Same inflated sense of knowledge and expertise
You just don't see such shallow, transparent personas on the forums like this.
Seriously, we need to do an ISP search.
BigStick, for those who don't know, is a five foot tall wannabe with a comical Village People mustache (pretty sure he has latent tendencies) and is an expert troll on the hunting/shooting forums.
He goes by Busheler on Youtube.
Just an amateur psychologist's dream, like CompensatingHammer.
A legend in their own minds.
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 04:37:14 PM
Oh, and just to clarify I am not some redneck dip*censored*... I am a fully trained gunsmith.. was actually an instructor after graduating at Colorado School of Trades.
Didn't know anyone was asking or cared. :chuckle: :chuckle:, but if it makes you feel better, more power to you.
Now I'm Impressed... but I can field strip and re-assemble a 106 recoiless rifle while holding my b :chuckle: :chuckle:reath....
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 14, 2011, 04:37:29 PM
just sayin'
:chuckle:
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 04:37:48 PM
This thread, and Biggerhammer in particular, has a very subtle "Big Stick" flavor. Laffin..................JINX!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 04:41:41 PM
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 04:44:01 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 14, 2011, 04:49:10 PM
Post by: FC on December 14, 2011, 04:49:52 PM
Maybe he is one of those super sneaky ninja jedi black ops guys that can not talk about their experience???? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Sigged.
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 04:51:35 PM
Maybe he is one of those super sneaky ninja jedi black ops guys that can not talk about their experience???? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Sigged.
I feel so honored. May I some day be as good a super sneaky ninja jedi black ops guys, in the future... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
:tup: :tup: :tup:
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
Oh, and just to clarify I am not some redneck dip*censored*... I am a fully trained gunsmith.. was actually an instructor after graduating at Colorado School of Trades.
Didn't know anyone was asking or cared. :chuckle: :chuckle:, but if it makes you feel better, more power to you.
Now I'm Impressed... but I can field strip and re-assemble a 106 recoiless rifle while holding my b :chuckle: :chuckle:reath....
Couldn't resist messing with ya HuntBear.... :sry:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
Oh, and just to clarify I am not some redneck dip*censored*... I am a fully trained gunsmith.. was actually an instructor after graduating at Colorado School of Trades.
Didn't know anyone was asking or cared. :chuckle: :chuckle:, but if it makes you feel better, more power to you.
Now I'm Impressed... but I can field strip and re-assemble a 106 recoiless rifle while holding my b :chuckle: :chuckle:reath....
No joke, the 106 would be way cool.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 04:56:32 PM
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 05:00:26 PM
Laughing , rather amusing. The prozac queen is like the energizer bunny, just can't shut it off.Ever notice bullies tend to pick on someone they think is vulnerable?
Not that Runamuk couldn't handle herself, but the psychoprofile of this PatheticHammer is fascinating.
Really.
The parallels with Busheler are too obvious.
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 05:01:37 PM
Oh, and just to clarify I am not some redneck dip*censored*... I am a fully trained gunsmith.. was actually an instructor after graduating at Colorado School of Trades.
Didn't know anyone was asking or cared. :chuckle: :chuckle:, but if it makes you feel better, more power to you.
Now I'm Impressed... but I can field strip and re-assemble a 106 recoiless rifle while holding my b :chuckle: :chuckle:reath....
Couldn't resist messing with ya HuntBear.... :sry:
Al, no worries. I know where you come from on most days... How ya feeling lately?
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:04:16 PM
Laughing , rather amusing. The prozac queen is like the energizer bunny, just can't shut it off.Ever notice bullies tend to pick on someone they think is vulnerable?
Not that Runamuk couldn't handle herself, but the psychoprofile of this PatheticHammer is fascinating.
Really.
The parallels with Busheler are too obvious.
Wahooooooooo! Now it's a party!!!!
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 05:06:12 PM
so is this you ...
Its ok I dont take prozac...and its well known I suffer from self esteem issues and now anxiety....if it makes his dick swell to treat a complete stranger this way he is in need of way more help than I am...
Laughing , rather amusing. The prozac queen is like the energizer bunny, just can't shut it off.Ever notice bullies tend to pick on someone they think is vulnerable?
Not that Runamuk couldn't handle herself, but the psychoprofile of this PatheticHammer is fascinating.
Really.
The parallels with Busheler are too obvious.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
Laughing , rather amusing. The prozac queen is like the energizer bunny, just can't shut it off.Ever notice bullies tend to pick on someone they think is vulnerable?
Not that Runamuk couldn't handle herself, but the psychoprofile of this PatheticHammer is fascinating.
Really.
The parallels with Busheler are too obvious.
I think anyone here can see that Mis Mouth is anything but vulnerable. Weak attempt there hotrod!
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 05:14:28 PM
I think you know I'm on to you.Laughing , rather amusing. The prozac queen is like the energizer bunny, just can't shut it off.Ever notice bullies tend to pick on someone they think is vulnerable?
Not that Runamuk couldn't handle herself, but the psychoprofile of this PatheticHammer is fascinating.
Really.
The parallels with Busheler are too obvious.
I think anyone here can see that Mis Mouth is anything but vulnerable. Weak attempt there hotrod!
I'll try not to point out your obvious weakness and insecurity.
You clamp it on how 'experienced and knowledgable' you are.
Deal?
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:19:24 PM
I think you know I'm on to you.Laughing , rather amusing. The prozac queen is like the energizer bunny, just can't shut it off.Ever notice bullies tend to pick on someone they think is vulnerable?
Not that Runamuk couldn't handle herself, but the psychoprofile of this PatheticHammer is fascinating.
Really.
The parallels with Busheler are too obvious.
I think anyone here can see that Mis Mouth is anything but vulnerable. Weak attempt there hotrod!
I'll try not to point out your obvious weakness and insecurity.
You clamp it on how 'experienced and knowledgable' you are.
Deal?
I have made no such claim, that is a label your little " Muck " attached to me and you followed in tow like a puppy, how cute.
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 05:27:17 PM
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 05:32:18 PM
Not everyone is as impressed with Adams as you are.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/374524_Adams_Arms_Gas_Piston_System.html
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
Maybe you should do a bit more shooting and a little less reading. Gotta love the " Internet expert " types. :chuckle: I wouldn't even know what a box of Wolf ammo looks like. Remember I'm one of the factory ammo is for sissy's type but then again you already know that.
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Do yourself a big favor and go to:
Rainierarms.com
There is a complete world to itself when it comes to AR's. I have built my own for the last 15 or so years. 5.56, 6x45, 6.5 Grendel, .204 Ruger. You can take it from the basic's to burn your wallet up! You can run a basic lower with a hotrod upper, or go the other direction. Simple to do, if you are new to AR's and haven't spent much time breaking one down or haven't built one in the past. Bushmaster does a excellent DVD, from start to finish on every assembly process pertaining to the AR. A great DVD for the beginner, I picked up several for friends years ago when they decided to build their own, instead of purchasing factory AR's. Most high end performance AR's can be built for allot less than some of the highend builders charge. Especially if one lurks in the parts classifieds on sites such as AR15.com and Snipershide.com.
Uppers come and go, I like to keep my lowers around. Match triggers, enidine buffers, anti rotation pins, blah, blah, blah etc.
huh so in one speel you suggest this site noted above then in another you contradict it and say anyone reading there the very same site you suggested is an internet...ummm...whatever it is up there....
you see I was reading and interested and it was your rather obvious self contradictions that made this whole thread explode into this delightful little popcorn and earl grey fest it has become.....you also seem to either hate women or hate me....and thats ok if it makes you feel better we can also keep that up you call me big mouth I call you limp dick eventually the whole thread gets locked :dunno:
Post by: Huntbear on December 14, 2011, 05:35:03 PM
The day that anyone feels like they should should lay a hand on Runamuk will be one to remember. It will never happen and be talked about by the perpetrator. The Princess shall Reign.
Could not agree more Killbilly! Like I tried to tell this guy earlier, he is messing with family.... he don't get it or don't care...
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 05:37:08 PM
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 05:42:44 PM
Terms like 'lock' and 'ban' and such....this is a major source of entertainment!
We need to keep WeakHammer on a simmer so that he continues to publicly display his vulnerability and pathos.
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 05:44:17 PM
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 05:46:04 PM
He lasted less than a day.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:46:45 PM
Not everyone is as impressed with Adams as you are.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/374524_Adams_Arms_Gas_Piston_System.html
I have read reports of carrier tilt and gouging of the buffer tubes in your system in 150 rounds. How many rounds have you put through your system in testing? How bad does the gouging get before it stabilizes?
I'll stick with my DI and pinned gas block...If it's ever used for 'business', I'll know it's proven.
I still think if you shot better ammo, there would be no need.
Try something other than Wolf.
Maybe you should do a bit more shooting and a little less reading. Gotta love the " Internet expert " types. :chuckle: I wouldn't even know what a box of Wolf ammo looks like. Remember I'm one of the factory ammo is for sissy's type but then again you already know that.QuoteDo yourself a big favor and go to:
Rainierarms.com
There is a complete world to itself when it comes to AR's. I have built my own for the last 15 or so years. 5.56, 6x45, 6.5 Grendel, .204 Ruger. You can take it from the basic's to burn your wallet up! You can run a basic lower with a hotrod upper, or go the other direction. Simple to do, if you are new to AR's and haven't spent much time breaking one down or haven't built one in the past. Bushmaster does a excellent DVD, from start to finish on every assembly process pertaining to the AR. A great DVD for the beginner, I picked up several for friends years ago when they decided to build their own, instead of purchasing factory AR's. Most high end performance AR's can be built for allot less than some of the highend builders charge. Especially if one lurks in the parts classifieds on sites such as AR15.com and Snipershide.com.
Uppers come and go, I like to keep my lowers around. Match triggers, enidine buffers, anti rotation pins, blah, blah, blah etc.
huh so in one speel you suggest this site noted above then in another you contradict it and say anyone reading there the very same site you suggested is an internet...ummm...whatever it is up there....
you see I was reading and interested and it was your rather obvious self contradictions that made this whole thread explode into this delightful little popcorn and earl grey fest it has become.....you also seem to either hate women or hate me....and thats ok if it makes you feel better we can also keep that up you call me big mouth I call you limp dick eventually the whole thread gets locked :dunno:
Your argument is comical and baseless, you are over reaching. The two site I mentioned have the best classified / for sale sections ou here for quality used AR parts great prices. It has nothing to do with intent expert wannabe's . It's about purchasing real wold hardware. Back up and regroup sister. That angle sucked, but laughable just the same.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:49:14 PM
I kicked his A@@ good on TheFiringline forums a couple of years ago, too.
He lasted less than a day.
Never been on that forum hotrod, glad you finally got to feel what kicking ass was like though.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:54:13 PM
Post by: Drop-tine on December 14, 2011, 05:55:45 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 05:59:15 PM
So how about those 22-250's for a coyote gun instead of them little black guns :chuckle: chit is getting deep in here I didn't mean to cause a commotion
I would take the 22-250 for a all situation gun as compared to a AR any day.The AR's are great for calling and doubles and such.
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
So how about those 22-250's for a coyote gun instead of them little black guns :chuckle: chit is getting deep in here I didn't mean to cause a commotion
The .22-250 Remington is a very high-velocity (capable of reaching over 4000 feet per second), short action, .22 caliber rifle cartridge primarily used for varmint hunting and small game hunting, though it finds occasional use on deer. This cartridge is also sometimes known as the 22 Varminter or the 22 Wotkyns Original Swift. Along with the .220 Swift, the .22-250 was one of the high-velocity 22 caliber cartridges that developed a reputation for remote wounding effects known as hydrostatic shock in the late 1930s and early 1940s.
Post by: FC on December 14, 2011, 06:03:04 PM
So how about those 22-250's for a coyote gun instead of them little black guns :chuckle: chit is getting deep in here I didn't mean to cause a commotion
22-250 is a great cartridge, a bit more expensive than 223 though if you don't reload.
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 06:03:52 PM
Post by: fair-chase on December 14, 2011, 06:06:09 PM
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Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
Ammo is going to be harder to find and more expensive...if you reload, no prob.
I have also heard, no practical experience, that throat erosion is an issue with 22-250 and 220 Swift.
$Hammer actually touched on a cartridge I toyed with some time ago...6mmx45.
I think 243win is the best long-range varmint round there is.
Problem is AR15 won't run the 51mm case.
Some wildcatter necked the .223 rem case to accept 6mm bullets and there you go....all it takes is a barrel swap.
You get a much heavier pill going pretty fast, bullet selection is good, too.
Post by: Drop-tine on December 14, 2011, 06:09:35 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 06:10:41 PM
Instead of? They have just as loyal a following as the .204 and the .223. You can still get it in an ar platform though. The beauty of the ar-15 platform is the ability to swap things out quickly and easily. Like going from a .223 to a .204 to a 22-250. Not trying to steer you to the ar, just not sure how much you know about them. Knowing what I know now I would prefer the ar for anything but cats for multiple target situations. That's solely for a semi-automatic advantage though. Don't worry about the chit starting to get deep, this conversation plays out a few different ways in various topics. It will move onto a different thread soon enough.
Only one catch there, the 22-250. Would have to be ran on a AR10 or SR25 platform. it won't run on a standard AR unless it was a WSSM variant. I built a 26" .204 Ruger upper with a Whiteoak barrel but it was such a beast weight wise. It has just sat other than range time.
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 06:11:25 PM
Post by: wraithen on December 14, 2011, 06:12:43 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 06:13:44 PM
My next upper will be the .50 Beauwolf. As good as the .22-250 is for varmints, My .243 WSSM upper does it all. I can go up to 107 gr. and down to 80 gr. depending on the game I'm hunting.
Did Oly Arms do your WSSM upper?
Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2011, 06:15:27 PM
Post by: FC on December 14, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
I think 243win is the best long-range varmint round there is.
Problem is AR15 won't run the 51mm case.
DPMS has their long action AR variant and has .243 on the shelf.
Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2011, 06:16:36 PM
My next upper will be the .50 Beauwolf. As good as the .22-250 is for varmints, My .243 WSSM upper does it all. I can go up to 107 gr. and down to 80 gr. depending on the game I'm hunting.
I also want a .50 Beowulf and/or a .450 Bushmaster....
Post by: Drop-tine on December 14, 2011, 06:17:56 PM
I read All nine pages.... I think my brain is numb now..... :chuckle:
I felt the same way I just had to catch up :chuckle: it was going so slow when i first started this post!
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 06:20:49 PM
My next upper will be the .50 Beauwolf. As good as the .22-250 is for varmints, My .243 WSSM upper does it all. I can go up to 107 gr. and down to 80 gr. depending on the game I'm hunting.
Did Oly Arms do your WSSM upper?
sure did.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 06:22:51 PM
I think 243win is the best long-range varmint round there is.
Problem is AR15 won't run the 51mm case.
DPMS has their long action AR variant and has .243 on the shelf.
They also do .260 Remington, I have never owned one but a friend has one that shoots real well. Very heavy set up when gassed up.
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 06:24:35 PM
I think Rock River does too.I think 243win is the best long-range varmint round there is.
Problem is AR15 won't run the 51mm case.
DPMS has their long action AR variant and has .243 on the shelf.
Maybe I'm cheap, but having one lower and a couple of dedicated uppers that plug and play just seems like fun.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 06:26:11 PM
My next upper will be the .50 Beauwolf. As good as the .22-250 is for varmints, My .243 WSSM upper does it all. I can go up to 107 gr. and down to 80 gr. depending on the game I'm hunting.
Did Oly Arms do your WSSM upper?
sure did.
I almost picked up one of their 25 WSSM uppers last year. Maybe after I get this springs Rockchuck blaster finished .
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 06:29:36 PM
So how about those 22-250's for a coyote gun instead of them little black guns :chuckle: chit is getting deep in here I didn't mean to cause a commotiondrop tine your thread has been trashed sorry...I was truly interested in the topic....just tired of pompous jerks.....since some people I respect are back to posting info I will just go back to the reading mode.....I was actually looking at an Olympic arms 223 that was priced well and wanted to read more info on them.....
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 06:37:53 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 14, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
I found this one in my yard............DPMS 223.
Do those grow wild up in Curlew? :IBCOOL:
Post by: dscubame on December 14, 2011, 06:52:24 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 14, 2011, 07:14:34 PM
I found this one in my yard............DPMS 223.
Do those grow wild up in Curlew? :IBCOOL:
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They used to until Rock River Arms took over. :tup:
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
One piece of advice, make sure you get an upper that has an 8:1 or faster twist (if that's possible) :chuckle:
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 07:27:32 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
I went with a Tactical Innovations machined lower with stainless bushings and pins. Added the AR Gold trigger set, quick release pin, BAD lever and it is one sweet shooting machine. Going to get up to Sequim later this winter and see if Steve can call in a cat to shoot.
One piece of advice, make sure you get an upper that has an 8:1 or faster twist (if that's possible) :chuckle:
Definatly a 8 or faster, 9s suck for the heavies and I havent found a 9 twist yet that will shoot the 162gr SS109's worth a damn. 9's are great for the light or varmint stuff.
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2011, 07:38:12 PM
I suspect someone on here has a vise block and a support jig for the pins....maybe they'd share.
Upper is a little more involved, again the right tools make the difference.
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
I know this isn't the classifieds but it is an AR thread and I just remembered that I have a Eotech Transverse XPS2 Red Dot Holo Sight for sale. Price is right.Is that the super cool sight you had :dunno: because that was sweet and I have wanted a gun that could wear one ever since :chuckle: who does that decides they need a gun because of a sight :)
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
Back to the build idea, building a lower is stinkin easy.
I suspect someone on here has a vise block and a support jig for the pins....maybe they'd share.
Upper is a little more involved, again the right tools make the difference.
Way easy, I've built lowers on my coffee table while watching The View and Oprah. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Back to the build idea, building a lower is stinkin easy.
I suspect someone on here has a vise block and a support jig for the pins....maybe they'd share.
Upper is a little more involved, again the right tools make the difference.
Way easy, I've built lowers on my coffee table while watching The View and Oprah. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah: except for Oprah
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
Back to the build idea, building a lower is stinkin easy.
I suspect someone on here has a vise block and a support jig for the pins....maybe they'd share.
Upper is a little more involved, again the right tools make the difference.
I have the vise block and hammer drop block. didn't feel i needed a support jig.
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 14, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 08:11:32 PM
Post by: KillBilly on December 14, 2011, 08:12:19 PM
I know this isn't the classifieds but it is an AR thread and I just remembered that I have a Eotech Transverse XPS2 Red Dot Holo Sight for sale. Price is right.Is that the super cool sight you had :dunno: because that was sweet and I have wanted a gun that could wear one ever since :chuckle: who does that decides they need a gun because of a sight :)
That's the one girlfriend
Post by: runamuk on December 14, 2011, 08:21:55 PM
:)I know this isn't the classifieds but it is an AR thread and I just remembered that I have a Eotech Transverse XPS2 Red Dot Holo Sight for sale. Price is right.Is that the super cool sight you had :dunno: because that was sweet and I have wanted a gun that could wear one ever since :chuckle: who does that decides they need a gun because of a sight :)
That's the one girlfriend
Post by: dscubame on December 14, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 14, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
Biggerhammer, Do you find all those tools necessary as described on the ultimatereloader.com AR-MPR project or is that slightly overkill?
I feel it's a bit overkill but some people are very analitacal when it comes to their AR builds. I've found that the only must have in AR assembly is the multi tool/barrel wrench and a vise. I've assembled many AR's with out any lower receiver block or upper receiver block. Used what we had where we were at the time. The AR is a increadably simple platform. Some are intimidated by it but there is no reason to be.
I also find it comical when they talk about checking headspace. The barrel goes on and the bolt and bolt carrier group goes in. The only way headspace could be out is if the barrel and or bolt carrier or bolt is out of spec. In which there is only one way to correct the matter, that is to replace the part. So when your assembling a AR , the chances of improper headspace are VERY slim. Most of the time it is a issue with a used, well worn bolt. a $70.00 buck fix.
Post by: dscubame on December 15, 2011, 09:20:30 AM
Biggerhammer, Do you find all those tools necessary as described on the ultimatereloader.com AR-MPR project or is that slightly overkill?
I feel it's a bit overkill but some people are very analitacal when it comes to their AR builds. I've found that the only must have in AR assembly is the multi tool/barrel wrench and a vise. I've assembled many AR's with out any lower receiver block or upper receiver block. Used what we had where we were at the time. The AR is a increadably simple platform. Some are intimidated by it but there is no reason to be.
I also find it comical when they talk about checking headspace. The barrel goes on and the bolt and bolt carrier group goes in. The only way headspace could be out is if the barrel and or bolt carrier or bolt is out of spec. In which there is only one way to correct the matter, that is to replace the part. So when your assembling a AR , the chances of improper headspace are VERY slim. Most of the time it is a issue with a used, well worn bolt. a $70.00 buck fix.
Thank you.
I am going to begin my first. If you do not mind I may be asking you some questions along the way.
For my first AR I may follow pretty close to what Gavin built on ultimatereloader.com I welcome any advise and thanks again.
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 15, 2011, 09:33:04 AM
Post by: grundy53 on December 16, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 16, 2011, 04:32:01 PM
Have any of you more experianced hunters shot/researched the .300 blackout round? whats your thoughts on it?
I never have shot one, but a friend just put one together. He's running a Gemtech suppressor, we are waiting on a case of PNW Arms 220gr Subsonic ammo. Should be here by mid week, I will then be able to test drive the cartridge.
Post by: FALFire on December 16, 2011, 04:47:11 PM
Have any of you more experianced hunters shot/researched the .300 blackout round? whats your thoughts on it?
It's just a slightly improved version of the 300 Whisper, 300 Fireball, 300/221 and a great choice if you plan on running subsonic. It has some advantage as there is factory ammo available. Neat round if you are looking for sub sonic stuff.
It will push a 110 to 125 grain bullets supersonic around 2100/2200 fps from a 16" barrel. I have the 300 Fireball in an AR pistol, it's fun, but the 6.8SPC kicks it's A$$. A better option if you are only planning on running .30 cal. and supersonic is to go with the 6.8 case necked up to 30 cal. called the 30 HRT, run 110's or 125's around 2400 to 2500 fps and some good thump out there at 200 yards maybe more. My 300 Fireball kills coyotes real nice but is seriously limited on distance. Great gun for knucklephucks that wanna screw with ya. :chuckle:
Post by: Drop-tine on December 17, 2011, 09:30:39 PM
Post by: grundy53 on December 17, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Post by: JJB11B on December 17, 2011, 11:20:34 PM
Post by: 87Ford on December 18, 2011, 12:39:44 AM
Post by: JJB11B on December 18, 2011, 12:47:36 AM
Post by: Drop-tine on December 18, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 18, 2011, 10:39:41 AM
Nice shot dropping the first one though.
Post by: Drop-tine on December 18, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2011, 11:44:42 PM
Ya I now know this haha, I need to just get another clip and keep it loaded and bring it with me for now on
I use " Clips " in my daughters hair, I jam " Magazines " in my AR's. :chuckle: ;)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 23, 2011, 12:05:20 AM
Post by: KillBilly on December 23, 2011, 12:38:03 AM
Ya I now know this haha, I need to just get another clip and keep it loaded and bring it with me for now on
I use " Clips " in my daughters hair, I jam " Magazines " in my AR's. :chuckle: ;)
Hmmm my magazines never jam.... look who is being critical :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 23, 2011, 01:13:36 PM
Ya I now know this haha, I need to just get another clip and keep it loaded and bring it with me for now on
I use " Clips " in my daughters hair, I jam " Magazines " in my AR's. :chuckle: ;)
Hmmm my magazines never jam.... look who is being critical :chuckle: :chuckle:
Look who can't read between the lines. :tup:
I may have a feed stoppage but not a " Jam " but no matter, I'm way frikn quick at correcting them. :rockin:Which is a critical factor when it comes to running carbines. ;)
I also use jam on my toast and MagPul maganines.
Post by: JJB11B on December 24, 2011, 02:15:38 AM
Post by: JJB11B on December 24, 2011, 02:17:58 AM
Post by: dscubame on January 18, 2012, 10:02:29 AM
I have been sourcing parts and have two elementary rookie questions. On the forums for AR parts I keep coming across two abbreviations I canot readily figure out what they mean. Could someone shed some light.
SPF?
TTT?
Post by: CP on January 18, 2012, 10:08:11 AM
I have been sourcing parts and have two elementary rookie questions. On the forums for AR parts I keep coming across two abbreviations I canot readily figure out what they mean. Could someone shed some light.
SPF?
TTT?
SPF = Sold pending funds
TTT = to the top
Post by: sebek556 on January 18, 2012, 10:15:19 AM
On an informative note. MagPul was started by a couple of Marines who were sick of fumbling around trying to grab magazines out of their mag pouches so they developed the MagPul loup Hence the name....Now you know, and knowing is half the battle, G.I. JOE!!!
they couldn't figure out the 550 cord trick? :chuckle:
Post by: dscubame on January 18, 2012, 10:16:08 AM
I have been sourcing parts and have two elementary rookie questions. On the forums for AR parts I keep coming across two abbreviations I canot readily figure out what they mean. Could someone shed some light.
SPF?
TTT?
Thank you.
SPF = Sold pending funds
TTT = to the top
Post by: JJB11B on January 18, 2012, 11:30:03 PM
The 550 cord trick works but the magpul loup also acts as a buffer when you drop your mag on the ground so you dont bust up the tabs on the base plate. Also the mag pull ones dont collapse and are easy to feel with gloved and/or cold hands.. It makes it more of a gross motor skill getting them out of the pouch not feeling for a little stringOn an informative note. MagPul was started by a couple of Marines who were sick of fumbling around trying to grab magazines out of their mag pouches so they developed the MagPul loup Hence the name....Now you know, and knowing is half the battle, G.I. JOE!!!
they couldn't figure out the 550 cord trick? :chuckle: